From my little experience with seeds, the temperature is more important than the light, so heat mats are great for seeds. Also it's just a lottery which seed will germinate and which not. And it's not uncommon for seeds to not germinate, so I'll get bored of it, reuse the soil for different seeds, sometimes more than once, until the original seed suddenly decides that now is the right time to start germinate, and then I'm confused because I don't remember planting this, but it's actually from months ago :D.
Yeah temp is the big thing in my experience, especially with tropical fellas like monstera. I tried germinating some bell pepper seeds on an unheated windowsill one year - they took 40+days even though the packet said 7 days! Next year I put them directly above a radiator so they got blasted by the heating all day. First one germinated in 4 days! They were loooving that heat.
That has been my experience as well, especially in a cooler house. I also find humidity domes help as well. I think this winter I might use heat mats under my more sensitive tropical plants. Has anyone tried that?
@@bethb7973 I have a heat mat under my plants. The seed starting mats don't really get hot enough to make a huge difference in the temperature of larger pots. It especially doesn't work on thicker pots. Thin plastic is better. On smaller/shallower pots, like my succulents, it works very well. They stay nice and warm.
The deliciosa is called that for a reason: its fruit is delicious! It's also called the "banana ananas" because it tastes like a pineapple and its elongated shape. It's sold commercially on Madeira (Portugal) and I bet many other places. I have a fully grown monstera deliciosa that I grew from seed of a fruit that I ate in 2012 ❤
Love your channel...I started 12 seeds last year. Put them in a Tupperware box with moist Spagnum Moss over a heating pad. 2 sprouted in two days. Planted 11 after they were outgrowing the box . Started different plant seeds in the box and a Monstera sprouted with the new seeds... I didn't know she was still in there. I put 3 of the Monsteras in one pot. After a year they are around 16" tall with no fenestrations but beautiful!!!
One of your best videos! You had me cracking up😂 and now I want to order up some seeds, so exciting. Thank goodness you have a hero in your household that saved yours from the bin! Lol
Can I just say you are my FAVORITE RUclips plant channel, and I literally search ALL of your videos before going to any other resource. You have taught me SO MUCH over the last few months, and I miiiight be your biggest fan. Thank you for the entertainment, the humor, production value, and mostly the knowledge!! Do you offer virtual plant consultations?! Because I'd book you in a snap!! Anyway, thank you so much. Keep crushing it!! 🙌🏻🪴💕
seeds sprout best without light but a lot of warmth! I left mine between some moist paper towels in a deli-cup until they started sprouting and only then planted them into soil. this is 8 months ago and one of them has the first fenestration in a leaf
So interesting, thank you! I love that you try so many things and film for us along the way. I would never attempt many but it’s great to see how things turn out. Looking forward to your next Monstera update.
In 2021, I bought 5 monstera delsiosa for $10. In a take out container that has a transparent lid and some holes in the lid, I put the seeds into moist sphagnum moss and closed the lid. By golly, all 5 seeds sprouted! I was amazed to see how different the size of the resulting plants are. Yes, it takes about 2 years to get to a 2 to 5 feet tall.
😂😂😂 Monstera adansoni, is small with fenestrations. Don't give up. Best wishes from Houston. ❤ I have a Huge Monstera deliciosa, I keep cutting, she keeps growing.😊
Love my Saturday night look-ins! With all the trials, tribulations, terror and triumphs that is… 🥁 Mr Sheffield and SMPs! This one was a roller coaster! 🎢 😮💨 Should have come with a pacemaker warning😂🫀
I once grew palm trees from seed. It took two years from fertilizing the "flowers" till they ripened. Then another year for them to sprout. By then I had forgotten I had planted them. Fortunately I had stuck the seeds in with already established plants, so I had a mystery until they unfurled their fronds.
Growing tonnes of avocados and ponytail palms in CANADA! Leave seeds in moist paper towel in a bag and once u see roots move to water! If you leave them behind/on top of the fridge it emits heat for the seed
Heats mats! Heat mats! One of the best things you can do for seeds. If none of the "seed mats" are catching your eye Id suggest looking at reptile heat mats much larger and with some you can control the heat. Cant suggest them enough
I had bought a small pot with 8 monstera d. Seedlings and in a little over a year they're 5ft tall with fenestrated leaves as large as my torso. I use about 5 grow light bulbs on a 5 head lamp to give them enough light. I give them diluted fert every week. The important element is light and it needs to be bright. Otherwise the plant won't respond enough and remain small and slow growing.
I've been mulling over your germination troubles for a couple hours and flashed back a couple years to when I started some moonflower seeds. The process was similar in that you're instructed to soak the seeds. It was either overnight or 24 hours. It also suggested to take a paring knife and knick the seeds. Maybe that might've sped things up a bit for you. They too took at least a week to germinate, and the conditions were a bit warmer with some sunshine radiation helping warm them up a few hours a day.
8:00 I had this video on my laptop's speakers and my parents were nearby when they heard this part. They stopped their conversation and asked me what on earth I'm watching. That was priceless 🤣🤣🤣
Good morning Mr Sheffield!!! Glad the plant fairy took your "babies to be" out of the bin!!! You having a come apart because your babies weren't going like you wanted was funny... have a great week.
I just love this video !! Growing from seeds is so satisfying when you get to see those hard-earned green babies. I'm currently having a crush on Adeniums and I'm buying seeds from a seller in UK. Grow lights, heating mat and a greenhouse box and they sprout in a couple of days ! I feel sooo shamelessly proud for that 😄
Pro tip: if you're experimenting and have more than 3 seeds don't use more than half in the first try. (for contingency and for not being overloaded in case of success)
There's something satisfying in growing tropical plants from seeds instead of "just" buying a plant in a store but yeah, it takes a lot of patience I bought 20 Bird of Paradise seeds a couple of years ago and gave my sister half of them. It took almost four months for just one of them to sprout for me... Of course my sister had to outdo me and had three of her seeds sprouting 😄 I'm tempted to try the Monstera seeds now Thank you for the video
My grocery store monstera plant came with a tiny sapling in the pot, which had sprouted from a seed! I've put it into its own tiny pot now, it's about an inch tall.
That's the difference of being a Brazilian and a British: I've, Brazilian, seen so many monsteras (Adam's Rips in Portuguese) since I'm a child that I don't care too much about it and would never have it in my house. They are everywhere: in condo's lobbies, in our friends gardens (some people have them inside their houses), in the streets... When I was a child people pissed me off saying "Look! Adam's Rips" 🙄 whenever we passed by this plant. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 But congratulations on your experiment. I once tried to grow parsley from the seeds. Nothing happened and I'm traumatized to today. 😂 No, I really don't have patience to grow from the seeds. .
Love this! So interesting how they grow from seed! Also, the upcoming video you mentioned .. is it about the root powder you are currently testing? Either way, I am excited! 😀
I grew some monstera seeds once, I think all but one (of ten) germinated. It was a little protect I did as part of a work xmas gift exchange, I gave them all away though, 2 per pot. Wish I'd kept one, I really should do it again, just wish I could get variegated ones.
There doesn't seem to be a clear concensus about delicosia (small form) vs borgonsonia (large form) monstera. Apparently they can all get big and get lovely leaves if you give them good enough conditions for long enough. Importantly, they need a lot of light to get the holey leaves.
There is a clear consensus. “Deliciosa” is the deliciosa Large Form. “Borsigiana” is the deliciosa Small Form. While small form can get big, it takes longer than it takes Large Form, and won’t ever get as large as Large Form. Small Form also does develop the ruffles, it just takes some time. Small form fenestrations almost look neatly placed while Large Form fenestrations can look erratic
I feel this... have been buying different seeds like some paradise bird flowers lately. Same issues as shown here! Trying to do everything they told me, but nothing seem to work.
You could increase your views by putting "guest starring Mrs Sheffield" in the title 😂 hearing about her in the comments kept me watching, lol. Yay for wifey, thanks for the success 😉 Monstera swearing - Bahaha yes, such a frequent feeling (esp for parents of all kinds). What is the angled grey tray you used at the end while repotting? Almost looks like a cat litter tray but I like how yours is higher on one side 🤔
Lol There are even articles that say that deliciosa and borsigiana are the same... But the funniest thing was my mother in law and other women of her generation call them "Philodendron". I guess that philodendron came first in my area and monstera is the "recent" trend.
I like growing from seeds. It's like producing a brandnew baby instead of adopting a schoolkid. :D And always remember: Never buy seeds for a Monstera deliciosa variegata. The white variegation occurs randomly and cannot be planned, so seeds advertised as such are a sign of an untrustworthy seller.🌿
as soon as you said January I knew they will grow only close to spring. Somehow no matter how warm and light you have it in the room the plants dont grow roots (or propagate) in winter (at least not December-January).
Him: Wait, monstera leaves have fenastrations, don't they? Me: Most babies plants don't look like their parents in the beginning. Him: Swearing up a storm. 😅😂
the fruits are very tasty. But it only ripe once in 18 months and when you eat, you can only eat a small section each day. I waited for four to ripe and had to travel for work this year. When I came back. They were all gone. I suspect the possums got them.
Download my FREE Plant Parent's Troubleshooting Handbook 👉 resources.sheffieldmadeplants.com/handbook
From my little experience with seeds, the temperature is more important than the light, so heat mats are great for seeds. Also it's just a lottery which seed will germinate and which not. And it's not uncommon for seeds to not germinate, so I'll get bored of it, reuse the soil for different seeds, sometimes more than once, until the original seed suddenly decides that now is the right time to start germinate, and then I'm confused because I don't remember planting this, but it's actually from months ago :D.
Yeah temp is the big thing in my experience, especially with tropical fellas like monstera. I tried germinating some bell pepper seeds on an unheated windowsill one year - they took 40+days even though the packet said 7 days!
Next year I put them directly above a radiator so they got blasted by the heating all day. First one germinated in 4 days! They were loooving that heat.
That has been my experience as well, especially in a cooler house. I also find humidity domes help as well.
I think this winter I might use heat mats under my more sensitive tropical plants. Has anyone tried that?
haha had similar experience
@@bethb7973 I have a heat mat under my plants. The seed starting mats don't really get hot enough to make a huge difference in the temperature of larger pots. It especially doesn't work on thicker pots. Thin plastic is better. On smaller/shallower pots, like my succulents, it works very well. They stay nice and warm.
The deliciosa is called that for a reason: its fruit is delicious! It's also called the "banana ananas" because it tastes like a pineapple and its elongated shape. It's sold commercially on Madeira (Portugal) and I bet many other places. I have a fully grown monstera deliciosa that I grew from seed of a fruit that I ate in 2012 ❤
That’s so cool!
When you lost it and started cussing, I couldn't stop laughing.
I don't think I've ever related more to one of your videos. 😂😂😂😂
😁
Started 14 Monstera seeds recently. Nearly all now have 2 leaves, looking good. Fingers crossed 😊
Very fun video Richard 😁👌 Mrs Sheffield’s guest appearance was a lovely twist to the plot 😉
Glad you enjoyed it
Don't deny us, what exactly are you smoking?
I’m roughly two months in growing monsteras from seed and it’s been so much fun watching them!
Love your channel...I started 12 seeds last year. Put them in a Tupperware box with moist Spagnum Moss over a heating pad. 2 sprouted in two days. Planted 11 after they were outgrowing the box . Started different plant seeds in the box and a Monstera sprouted with the new seeds... I didn't know she was still in there. I put 3 of the Monsteras in one pot. After a year they are around 16" tall with no fenestrations but beautiful!!!
6:01 the first appearance of Mrs Sheffield, the guardian angel of unwanted seeds 💚💚💚 😇
Plot twist he was just wearing a dress 😂
Or: Mr Sheffield hired the neighbour
One of your best videos! You had me cracking up😂 and now I want to order up some seeds, so exciting. Thank goodness you have a hero in your household that saved yours from the bin! Lol
Thank you 😊
Can I just say you are my FAVORITE RUclips plant channel, and I literally search ALL of your videos before going to any other resource. You have taught me SO MUCH over the last few months, and I miiiight be your biggest fan. Thank you for the entertainment, the humor, production value, and mostly the knowledge!! Do you offer virtual plant consultations?! Because I'd book you in a snap!! Anyway, thank you so much. Keep crushing it!! 🙌🏻🪴💕
Thank you 😊. Not at the moment no
seeds sprout best without light but a lot of warmth! I left mine between some moist paper towels in a deli-cup until they started sprouting and only then planted them into soil. this is 8 months ago and one of them has the first fenestration in a leaf
From the tiniest acorn can grow the mightiest of oaks..... congrats on the hard work
' I've got bricks growing quicker than this'. classic Mister Sheffers. Thank you : )
So interesting, thank you! I love that you try so many things and film for us along the way. I would never attempt many but it’s great to see how things turn out. Looking forward to your next Monstera update.
Thanks for watching 😁
Yaaay Mrs Sheffield!!! Please do add her more in your videos. ❤
In 2021, I bought 5 monstera delsiosa for $10. In a take out container that has a transparent lid and some holes in the lid, I put the seeds into moist sphagnum moss and closed the lid. By golly, all 5 seeds sprouted! I was amazed to see how different the size of the resulting plants are. Yes, it takes about 2 years to get to a 2 to 5 feet tall.
😂😂😂 Monstera adansoni, is small with fenestrations. Don't give up. Best wishes from Houston. ❤ I have a Huge Monstera deliciosa, I keep cutting, she keeps growing.😊
Starting from seed is always exciting. But the wait is a test.
Love my Saturday night look-ins!
With all the trials, tribulations, terror and triumphs that is… 🥁
Mr Sheffield and SMPs!
This one was a roller coaster! 🎢 😮💨
Should have come with a pacemaker warning😂🫀
😂 thanks
I once grew palm trees from seed. It took two years from fertilizing the "flowers" till they ripened. Then another year for them to sprout. By then I had forgotten I had planted them. Fortunately I had stuck the seeds in with already established plants, so I had a mystery until they unfurled their fronds.
Yes, it makes patience accompanied by joy is the growth of plants. Gorgeous babies monstera plants😊
being a senior, i don't think i have time to get a big plant from seed. lol
Growing tonnes of avocados and ponytail palms in CANADA! Leave seeds in moist paper towel in a bag and once u see roots move to water! If you leave them behind/on top of the fridge it emits heat for the seed
Heats mats! Heat mats! One of the best things you can do for seeds. If none of the "seed mats" are catching your eye Id suggest looking at reptile heat mats much larger and with some you can control the heat. Cant suggest them enough
I got one pretty cheep on Amazon.
"I've got bricks growing quicker than this" lmaoo😭😭😭
I'm going mine from seeds as well. I planted 6 and 4 grew. They are still doing well.
I had bought a small pot with 8 monstera d. Seedlings and in a little over a year they're 5ft tall with fenestrated leaves as large as my torso. I use about 5 grow light bulbs on a 5 head lamp to give them enough light. I give them diluted fert every week. The important element is light and it needs to be bright. Otherwise the plant won't respond enough and remain small and slow growing.
I've been mulling over your germination troubles for a couple hours and flashed back a couple years to when I started some moonflower seeds. The process was similar in that you're instructed to soak the seeds. It was either overnight or 24 hours. It also suggested to take a paring knife and knick the seeds. Maybe that might've sped things up a bit for you. They too took at least a week to germinate, and the conditions were a bit warmer with some sunshine radiation helping warm them up a few hours a day.
Must have been the lack of heat for me. They all germinated in the end
8:00 I had this video on my laptop's speakers and my parents were nearby when they heard this part. They stopped their conversation and asked me what on earth I'm watching. That was priceless 🤣🤣🤣
😅
Good morning Mr Sheffield!!! Glad the plant fairy took your "babies to be" out of the bin!!! You having a come apart because your babies weren't going like you wanted was funny... have a great week.
Giggled my way thru this one 😂❤
.... and those fruits are DELICIOUS!!!!! This why the plant is nicknamed 'The Fruit Salad Plant' 👍
When patience tries you, try patience😅 love this video ❤
I just love this video !! Growing from seeds is so satisfying when you get to see those hard-earned green babies. I'm currently having a crush on Adeniums and I'm buying seeds from a seller in UK. Grow lights, heating mat and a greenhouse box and they sprout in a couple of days ! I feel sooo shamelessly proud for that 😄
Great stuff 👍
Heat mats for germination, Mr. Sheffield.
Richard I ❤️ your videos the most. 🥰 Canada 🇨🇦
My little monsteras only took about a year to make finestrations. I haven't raised from seed but wet sticks and babies 😊
5:56 the *terror* on my face! 😱
Fortunately, some time in the bin made them think about what they wanted to do
🌱
Some effective time out 😂
😅
Pro tip: if you're experimenting and have more than 3 seeds don't use more than half in the first try. (for contingency and for not being overloaded in case of success)
Such an interesting video.. a lot of work, drama nd patience has gone behind making this video.. brilliant 🤩
Thank you 😊
One of your best videos quite happy your seeds grown into plants 😊
Thank you 😊
I didnt even know that monstera fruit and seeds even existed.
I would love to see the flowers!!!
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess there's a lot of things you don't know.
There's something satisfying in growing tropical plants from seeds instead of "just" buying a plant in a store but yeah, it takes a lot of patience
I bought 20 Bird of Paradise seeds a couple of years ago and gave my sister half of them. It took almost four months for just one of them to sprout for me... Of course my sister had to outdo me and had three of her seeds sprouting 😄
I'm tempted to try the Monstera seeds now
Thank you for the video
It’s worth a shot
I just love your videos. Somehow you’re good at the balance between a trust-worthy plant youtuber and a normal, relatable bloke.
Cool thanks 🙏
Heating mats for seedlings really help.
For the germination temp issue, consider a heating mat like they use for reptiles. Hope this helps!
Someone get this man an Oscar
I love growing plants from seeds! ❤🤗
Growing plants from seeds is the best. Seeing the little fella grow from infancy to it's best self.
I enjoyed it
My grocery store monstera plant came with a tiny sapling in the pot, which had sprouted from a seed! I've put it into its own tiny pot now, it's about an inch tall.
What a fun experiment!
Good job 👏 👍 👌!
Great experiment Rich. Great editing and delivery. Happy house hunting. Love from Ontario Canada. Peace.
Cheers!
It's definitely the temperature. Here in the tropics they grow extremely fast. We have temperatures above 30⁰c all year round, it's hellish 😅
That's the difference of being a Brazilian and a British: I've, Brazilian, seen so many monsteras (Adam's Rips in Portuguese) since I'm a child that I don't care too much about it and would never have it in my house.
They are everywhere: in condo's lobbies, in our friends gardens (some people have them inside their houses), in the streets...
When I was a child people pissed me off saying "Look! Adam's Rips" 🙄 whenever we passed by this plant. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
But congratulations on your experiment. I once tried to grow parsley from the seeds. Nothing happened and I'm traumatized to today.
😂 No, I really don't have patience to grow from the seeds.
.
Parsley is known for being a pain to germinate, you chose to start at harder level!
@lesfibresfantastiques7265 thank you. I didn't know it. 🤗
Can you do a video about growing lithops seeds from seeds?
It's really cool to have a huge plant that you've grown yourself from a seed but i could never have the patience for that! 🤣🤣
I love your commentary- I’m laughing out loud 😂😂
Thank you 😊
Wow. Who knew Monster Munch could grow into a rubber plant?
I'll get my coat.
The swearing part just made me laugh. 😂
😅
Love this! So interesting how they grow from seed! Also, the upcoming video you mentioned .. is it about the root powder you are currently testing? Either way, I am excited! 😀
Could be!
you certainly do love a challenge......seems like alot of frustration to me!!
Fantastic video as always! I was laughing, glad you've got bricks that grow haha
Glad you enjoyed!
I grew some monstera seeds once, I think all but one (of ten) germinated. It was a little protect I did as part of a work xmas gift exchange, I gave them all away though, 2 per pot. Wish I'd kept one, I really should do it again, just wish I could get variegated ones.
Always entertaining 😊
Well I've only done medicinal herbs from seed. But I always leave them in a mosit paper towel after the water soak until the tap root emerges
There doesn't seem to be a clear concensus about delicosia (small form) vs borgonsonia (large form) monstera. Apparently they can all get big and get lovely leaves if you give them good enough conditions for long enough. Importantly, they need a lot of light to get the holey leaves.
Petiole to leaf ratio is the difference
I thought borsigiana was the small form
@@P0nyl0ve it is
There is a clear consensus.
“Deliciosa” is the deliciosa Large Form.
“Borsigiana” is the deliciosa Small Form.
While small form can get big, it takes longer than it takes Large Form, and won’t ever get as large as Large Form.
Small Form also does develop the ruffles, it just takes some time.
Small form fenestrations almost look neatly placed while Large Form fenestrations can look erratic
@@LataylaYep. From what I understand they are also often from different areas. The same land, but higher or lower in the mountains.
You’re an ace at plant care! Whichever of your green ‘darlings’ are crap talking behind your back are likely named Calathea.
😂
oh I always wondered how well that would work. I know they grow fruits (seeds) but I never attempted. I think you were quite successful!
Yep in the end 😁
I feel this... have been buying different seeds like some paradise bird flowers lately. Same issues as shown here! Trying to do everything they told me, but nothing seem to work.
8:00 in the cursing 😂😂😂
Love your content. Try a heat Matt under your pots
Thanks
What's a "heat Matt"? A guy named Matt that you can rent by the hour who lets your seeds cuddle with him to provide warmth?
OMG, this video is too funny!!!
Thank you 😊
Can you make a video about lights? 😅✨️
You could increase your views by putting "guest starring Mrs Sheffield" in the title 😂 hearing about her in the comments kept me watching, lol. Yay for wifey, thanks for the success 😉 Monstera swearing - Bahaha yes, such a frequent feeling (esp for parents of all kinds). What is the angled grey tray you used at the end while repotting? Almost looks like a cat litter tray but I like how yours is higher on one side 🤔
It’s an Elho garden tray
@@SheffieldMadePlants no elho commissions, eh? Just making sure before I start browsing Amazon 😅 Thanks mate!
Lol There are even articles that say that deliciosa and borsigiana are the same... But the funniest thing was my mother in law and other women of her generation call them "Philodendron". I guess that philodendron came first in my area and monstera is the "recent" trend.
Can you do some experiments with plants 💚🌱
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! OMG You are so funny!!! 😂🤣😂🤣👍❤️
Cheers!
I like growing from seeds. It's like producing a brandnew baby instead of adopting a schoolkid. :D
And always remember: Never buy seeds for a Monstera deliciosa variegata. The white variegation occurs randomly and cannot be planned, so seeds advertised as such are a sign of an untrustworthy seller.🌿
as soon as you said January I knew they will grow only close to spring. Somehow no matter how warm and light you have it in the room the plants dont grow roots (or propagate) in winter (at least not December-January).
A botanist you're not pal.
And just like that i found out what that little thing dangling off my Monstera ( Crybaby Johnny) is.😮
Him: Wait, monstera leaves have fenastrations, don't they?
Me: Most babies plants don't look like their parents in the beginning.
Him: Swearing up a storm.
😅😂
😂
😂😂🤣omg you crack me up
😀
I need good potting mix that’ll ship to the USA
Just a thought.. Will a sport variegated will come out on those seeds?
Oh yes, my monstera absolutely thrives on neglect lol
Funny and relatable video. 😄
Question: Where do you/commenters buy the monstera seeds from?
Easy grow seeds
@@SheffieldMadePlants Thanks. I see they sell them on Etsy, but ordered rooted cuttings instead of seeds.
Best regards to you & family.
What do you do with the worms that come out, when you bottom water? 🤔
The worms?
@@SheffieldMadePlants yeah, I just put the worms back in the soil. I wonder if they stay in the soil, when not being watered? 🤔
I have Monsteras in my guppy aquarium to clean the water. They love guppy shit and 26C water and grow like monsters!
the fruits are very tasty. But it only ripe once in 18 months and when you eat, you can only eat a small section each day. I waited for four to ripe and had to travel for work this year. When I came back. They were all gone. I suspect the possums got them.
You should try to grow and eat a monstera flower next
*monstera fruit not flower
Might be hard in my climate
@@SheffieldMadePlants maybe you could just skip the growing part and order it online as a short 🫲🫠🫱
Would the seeds have grown in perlite the way the wet sticks did?
Maybe
"Oh yeah... Views" DEAD HAHAHAHA
Where did you get your clear pots you're using for your baby monstera's? What size are the pots?
Sybotanica. Think they're 8inch maybe
I like starting plants from seed, just to know that i can.
fee... fi... fo... fum...! at 1:46 in, will they become magic beans? 🙂
Monstera deliciosa thai constellation seeds when?!! Lol.
Good job you got them out the bin or your doppelganger did
I tried growing spiderplants from seeds they ended in the bin
Your hilarious. The most important thing you taught me about monsteras is not to buy one. lol. 😂
My monsteras always seem to curl inwards and look really dry and go yellow/brown :(