Is Prince Harry a NARCISSIST?
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Is Prince Harry a narcissist? This is a very common question I get on this channel, and in this video I dive into why people are asking this question, especially considering his recent behavior.
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I often wonder why you defended Johnny Depp so hard and then turn around and do the exact same shit to Megan Markle and Harry without an ounce of evidence? You're a real piece of shit, harassing that woman because it kills you to see a black princess. Not one she's of proof, but you know better surely with all your years of personal knowledge. You are trash.
They love playing victims in circumstances that they created themselves.
Yes!
How well said....
I saw one 2 months or so ago playing out on RUclips between a man and a woman. The woman obviously is a narc and she and the man have been going back and forth at each other in RUclips drama for years.
It goes the woman met a childhood friend again and he invited her back in town to hang out at his house, the enemy man of her found out because while at the other man's house she started videotaping the both of them to show off that she has a new man over the internet. Most of the videos the new man didn't know about or consent to, so the enemy man started making fun of her for it calling her thirsty for both a man and for attention, she then started acting extra, getting irate, and screaming, basically making a show for the drama of it all. Literally the next day she announced to her viewers that she's not with the new man anymore because things went south and that it was her haters faults.
What really happened was the new guy started getting annoyed with her yelling and acting crazy in his house obsessively having a shouting match with a man over the internet aka her enemy, he asked her to settle down, he also said he found out that she posted his place all over using him as her content and he brought it up saying she cant do that because he's a private person, he said she started yelling at him threatening to call the cops because he was "making her feel unsafe" and when the cops came she lied about how he was threatening her, the cops asked her if she wanted to leave although he wasn't kicking her out just yet and she said yes. After she was provided a hotel room she took to her channel blaming her "haters" for breaking them up, saying they trolled away a good thing she had o.0
She decided to put that man's place and face over the internet, she claimed they were a couple even though he only invited her to his place and seen her for the first time since childhood, he never said they were a couple, she decided to argue with people obnoxiously obviously getting excited and hyped over the attention from it, and she decided to walk around his house like a crazy woman yelling for hrs in the early morning about how other people are jealous of her and her new man, and she called the cops herself just because the guy who's house she's in criticized her for it all lol. This woman even lost her 7 kids because of the way she is but she loves calling other people narcs, she calls everybody else things that she happens to be.
Who told you they created themselves? It was created by William, Kate and their pals british rightwing press created it.
Hahah exactly!
He forgets he's a guest in our country. We aren't dumb enough to think he came in and was honest on his visa application because past drug and alcohol abuse disqualifies. He's just here hiding from his family after trashing them like an overgrown teenager throwing a fit.
Seriously
And he can be a citizen in the United States or live here indefinitely but not with a title that’s why we had the revolutionary war
He was probably given a pass because he's rich and famous.
@@ericaknesek3266 Could the loss of his titles be the reason he's not rushing to get the US ciitzenship? Apart from tax strategies of course, hence his lease renewal on Frogmore so that he can still reside on paper in the UK half-time.
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He's very damaged, self obsessed, and has never been emotionally stable, probably with a trauma-based personality disorder. His relationship with his wife has absolutely brought out the worst in him, and triggered worsening mental health. I've seen the same in those with PTSD when they get into the wrong relationships. She knows what she's doing, and is definitely a narcissist - Harry is an enabler, as well as having all his trauma triggered. Kate is a healthy partner for William, Meghan is a destructive partner for Harry. The Palace covered up a lot of his behaviour growing up, but there's no one to advise him and cover up for him now.
It’s just incredibly sad really, marble brings out the worst in Harry he seems so unhappy since he has married her. She is a cool customer I would despise a woman like her married to my brother.
He's made his bed so he can lie in it
You got that right!
@@meilingflesa8140 That's what divorces are for.......to get out of the bed and don't look back.
@@1004katherine l think Harry is more scared of loosing Methane than divorcing her
Jealousy, I believe, plays a big part in Harry's behaviour. He is jealous of William, his grounded, centered FIRST IN LINE brother and he will continue to be jealous of him with a burning bitterness, egged on by Meghan, and ironically because of the contrast that he has created between them. Since the more Harry acts like a pretentious, self-important "fake it till you make it" wannabe leader, the more William's more refined, genuine manner will shine through. And the more Harry will have to overcompensate by inflating his fragile, monumental ego.
Yes
Exaxtly
Harry claims to be his mother's son but I think the more he speaks and acts out, the more I see a resemblance of Diana's good personality traits in William and all of the bad ones in Harry.
I agree; noticed how they announced their exit a day or 2 after the photo shoot the queen with all the heirs to the throne in People Magazine?
Exactly
If you pay attention to Megan in a group, she stares deep into the men’s eyes to mesmerize them, she’s thinking that it will make them think she is so wonderful, because she made THEM feel so wonderful. She did the same thing to Harry.
Allegedly MeGain tried to mesmerize William apparently it did not work with William he see right thru so MeGain settled for the spare she did not just mesmerize Hazbeen she brainwashed him and now who is the trapped one
She wants people to think that she really sees them. That she sees the best in them and that can get mentally unstable, bitter people hooked to her. She praises them while the rest of the world is speaking against them in their heads. Harry is just like that.
I don’t think she likes females as they are competition but males are to be used
She wants to make them feel as if they are truly interesting
They were horrible on the Australia tour. Wanted the whole governor's mansion instead of just a wing, spilled tea, boozed & made a mess with Jessica mulrun, meg threw tea on the help etc
In their mind they were amazing, they were doing everyone a favour.
The statement he made on how the press is not going to be satisfied until ‘she’ dies, yikes!!! The look on his face when he said it - my god the man is to use his word, stark raving ‘bonkers’. I can’t bear to look at him. Good job and great video, thanks. 🇨🇦
Thank you!!
It's like he's trying to recreate the mystique of his mother through Meaghan o.0.
@@citrusbutter7718 I think Meghan heavily reinforces that narrative. She showed up to their first date wearing princess Diana’s perfume. Meghan also has reportedly mimicked to a high degree the feelings of being suicidal and the firm not helping that princess Diana had also asserted in the 90s. Meghan redesigned her entire blog from a health/ lifestyle topic to a humanitarian- like context. There are a great number of channels that explore Harry and Meghan’s dynamic. Check out the body language guy, sue me, and according to taz -
@@cherrygarcia1 no, unfortunately Harry does believe the paparazzi was going to hound Markle to death like he thinks happened to his Mum.
Haz and MM will never understand the papps were NOT chasing her anywhere.
They are deluded, and that is very sad. We should send thoughts and prayers to help them.
@@amberpowell5826 Oh god yeah! That event they went to after she said that to him - his face! She was fine - worked better that she thought probably, but Harry shows everything he feels on his face and the anxiety was palpable - imagine using the death of someones mother against them.
I think it's very telling that he says before he met Megan, he didn't realise there was a problem. That's because she ultimately persuaded him, through her own scewed view of the world, that there was one.
In simple words she poisoned his mind against his family and the institution example him saying he didn't realise he was trapped until Meghan told him so. Just good old poisoning and brainwashing to control the partner. Women have been doing this for ages. It's an ironclad manipulative trait alot of women have. Historically it stemmed from women in the past not having any power or control in relationships/marriage, family units, kingdoms etc. In some cultures women are not even allowed to speak in front of other family members or family meetings. So what they learned to do is to gain control or power by poisoning, brainwashing and manipulating their husbands mainly in the bedroom and being the "power behind the throne" or the puppet master. This is during the old times but happens today in certain communities and cultures like in rural India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Africa, middle east etc. But now with all the freedom women have, the poisoning one against their family/friends etc occurs anywhere not necessary only in the bedroom..lol
The Australian tour made everyone jealous? Lol. That story line was what happened to Princess Diana in the Crown. Pathetic.
Yup, the next sentence after Harry says that Oprah brings up the story line from the Crown.
Meghan's facial expression when he says she "saved him" at around 8:30 tells you who the narcissist really is.
Yes, the self-satisfaction was SO evident...
She was disgustingly smug.
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I think she was also hiding her anger because Harry too so long to say yes. I BET she gives him notes and critiques after every single interview.
Funny enough is her little smile of satisfaction.
THIS. I wasn't in a relationship with Meghan Markle but I was to a narcissist like her.
She made me distance myself from my family and friends. Made me a victim although I wasn't one. Showered me with love and praise and made me seem I was in need of saving. Everything you mentioned in this video describes my relationship of 3 years
For General Katarn . Wow. I am so glad you got out and can see clearly now. A gf of mine left a narcissist and then went back to him. I was beyond frustrated with her. A very longstanding relationship and lots of back and forth How did you get out ?
@@shannashutterfly6806 I was increasingly getting miserable as time went on. At the same time we were in talks of going more serious and starting a family. But she hated my family and for a time like the video says I bought into the victim narrative and was made to be special by her that was saved from my "evil family".
She said if we had kids my folks could not be involved or else she'd leave me, take them away from me and I'd never get to see them again.
It was hard because I did love her but I was not going to throw my life away at 26 to spend the next 18 years paying alimony for a child I'd never see again.
So I left
@@GeneralKatarn that must have taken a lot of courage. Respect ✊
@generalkatarn. Your narcissist was a little more stupid than meghan markle. That's why you escaped so thank your lucky stars. She revealed her cards b4 marriage and having the kid but MM - we all saw on national TV how she promised, on the engagement interview- to be a "team player" and got stuck right in with his bro and wife and everyone else. She acted UNTIL they got married and as soon as popped that kid out THEN she revealed her cards. Saying she felt like suicide, neeed protection from press,she needs to run away to Canada to protect their son etc. Harry was duped until marriage. And that's why he wasn't as lucky as you.
I was too with a narcissist man..but no praise..just control and making me feel worthless.Meghan Markle doesnt praise Harry She controls him by using his weaknesses as weapons against him without him noticing..she has made his blessings and good points look like trash in his eyes..shes brainwashed him in every way.
The NAACP gave a "prestigious" award to a man who grew up in a palace and went as a Nazi to a party. "H" has never had an open conversation about his past nor has he applogized for his behavior. We all make mistakes, but getting an award from an organization such as the NAACP hits a sore spot for many people. "H" is not a narcissist, but he is brainwashed and being exploited by unhealthy individuals around him. I hope he one day gets the real help he needs.
And I would hope people who follow the NAACP wake up to and realize if the NAACP gave such an award to these people, then the people running NAACP really don't stand for the people but to only prop up their own organization.
According to Whoopi, whose high up in that group, Hitler wasn't racist, it was never a race thing - remember? Obviously, they aren't going to count that incident. Or the multiple racist slurs he's said over the years. He married someone who is 25% black who was clearly raised in poverty by her black side of the family.... Oh wait, she was raised whiter than almost every white person in America with butt loads of money and so much privilege it's disgusting. And her black mother, no where to be found until it was advantageous to claim her black heritage. She didn't even claim to be mixed or black until it was working in her favor and boom, the bronzer & toner came out in gallons. Give me a break on her earning anything other than "best con artist" or "must've been a damn good lay who claimed pregnancy to get her prince"
@@snsmystic Agreed. NAACP is an outdated and racist corrupt institution. Like the other grifters in BLM and Jesse Jackson etc, absolute users
@@snsmystic H&M bought and PAID for that award. Just like they paid $100k to be on the cover of People.
I don’t believe he is a narcissist either. He certainly acts in a self entitled & self righteous attitude which I feel has been escalated by his narcissistic wife. She certainly controls his narrative.
Where is his own personality?
I do believe hasbeans has become seriously ill. He's delusional and paranoid.
@@uyoebyik He doesn't really have one. He was always spolied by his family, they cleaned up his mess all the time, his own wife makes him feel like he's always right, he doesn't need to take responsibility of his actions at all. I think that would've helped him to form a steady personality, have his own, individual opinions and carve out his principles that could follow in life. It's all missing due to his recklessness.
He's just a little bit dim. Bless him.
@@fanni24 he also was really heart broken by his mother's death, so...
Great job on your summary of how a narcissist operates a relationship context. I went through it myself, and going into that relationship I had zero knowledge about personality disorders. I ended up spending nearly all my free time researching abnormal psychology in an effort to understand what was happening because it was clear to me after about 8 months that something was very wrong. Unfortunately, she had me fully hooked by then, so I fell right into the trap of believing I could help her and make it work.
She proceeded to use my determination against me by doing and saying things that ground away at my self esteem and confidence while dangling her fake caring persona in front of me whenever I was close to giving up. I was completely stressed out to the point of panic attacks (which I had never had before). Literally all I could think about was her and trying to figure out what she was going to do next.
She basically exploited my good traits in order to gain access to my most vulnerable self, and then used that knowledge to control and hurt me until I was completely crushed and useless. I'm embarrassed to admit this, but toward the end, I was so down and defeated that I would cry every single day when I was alone...sometimes for hours. Prior to that I had never cried during my adult life. She didn't know, but I'm sure she could see that I wasn't going to be useful to her for much longer, so she did something crueler then I ever thought was humanly possible.
I came home one day, and my code wouldn't open the door anymore. I could see her through the window right in front of me, but she acted like I didn't exist. It was like a Twilight Zone episode. Almost immediately, I was escorted by police off the property and informed that I wasn't allowed to even be in the small town where we lived at all. She had secretly gotten a restraining order based on a false accusation, and it turned out she had been setting up the whole thing for months by saying all sorts of awful things about me to anyone who would listen. She even developed a relationship with my mom and turned her against me, which resulted in her disowning me entirely.
It's been two and a half years now, and I know I'm much better than I was, but it's clear that I will never be the same. There's no way I could see the world with the kind of naive optimism and positivity like I did before because I've experienced a kind of evil that I had never even imagined.
I learned a lot about psychology, and now I can see the red flags and understand what they mean. It all stems from the lack of empathy and giant but fragile ego, but this can manifest is any number of ways. These people are aware of their dysfunction, and they have spent their entire lives learning how to hide it, so the red flags aren't always obvious.
Well, I didn't intend to write all this, but here we are. If anyone made it to the end, thanks for reading.
Examine your own parents. Typically people date narcissists because it is familiar to them.
A big clue your mom is a narcissist is because they always side with the abusive partner of their son or daughter. It’s the ultimate supply for them and a way to assert their control.
Sorry that you experienced this.
This is just insane! Heartbreaking to the point that it was hard to even read. I'm so sorry, no one EVER deserves to be treated like this. I hope karma hits back like a train.
@@taniabluebell3099 Thanks, and you're totally right about the parent thing. Mine were not even together by the time I was born, and with my mom being an alcoholic throughout my childhood before abandoning her children when I was 11, I didn't really get to know her all that well. By the time she got things together, she lived on the other side of the country, so I only really talked to her on the phone. My dad, on the other hand, was my first encounter with a vulnerable narcissist, although I didn't know it then. I ended up with him when my mom disappeared, and although there were a few moments that were positive, they were overwhelmingly negated. I won't get into that, but I did learn during my research that if a person had a difficult relationship with a parent, then they will often subconsciously seek that same dynamic with a relationship partner, which would essentially represent a surrogate for the parent and provide another chance to make it work.
I believe that did play a part based on some strong similarities, but the weird thing is that I had been in several long term relationships that all had significantly different dynamics without any issues prior to the bad one. It's a bit of a mess...
@@gabeo9474 keep your head up. When we've been in relationships like that the only thing we can do when the dust settles is RISE.
I’m glad you discovered narcissism. It is quite a mind f*ck when you are the subject used for their supply. In a way the narcissist doesn’t win since we discover their game plan by our sheer willingness to find answers.
Take care on your healing journey. Self care is the best medicine.
It's honestly saddening to see Prince Harry fall from grace like this. From being the most popular royal family member people want to be around, to the one royal family member people want to be away from.
You're right about the fact that we all have narcissism within us. Whether or not we choose to embrace it and act like we're above others or instead humble it and use it to help others is another story.
Another brilliant video! I can't help but cringe when he refers to the Australian tour and how wonderful Megan was, no no no she wasn't, she was appalling. Even the little clips on the news gave away her arrogance and pretentiousness. She publicly giggled at the indigenous events particularly, very disrespectful. She was signing autographs presenting herself top nodge celebrity
Her long gazes at Harry while cradling her baby bump. Every thing was a pose. Unnatural and obvious because she wanted the cameras to capture her in staged setups.
So now he can foretell the future wow
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Wasn't that also after she wore a big loose-fitting coat to Eugenie's wedding, and they announced their pregnancy to the family at the reception?
@@nuclearwessels2078 Yep, and it was one of their first big royal tours outside of the UK. She was in her element, she stirred up the pregnancy speculations beforehand so during the tour people were going out of their ways to see her.
6:00 it really changed after theAustralia tour...allegedly after the tea throwing incident?? After hissing at a staff member in Fiji? We are not stupid Harry
Yup
Wonderful video & analysis! I used to feel sorry for Harry, but recently I've realized he's always been a selfish, spoiled brat who had the palace to protect his image. Without that, we're seeing Harry for who he really is. His hypocritical & pontificating words & actions have been infuriating. Of course Meghan is bringing out the worst of him as well. At the end of the day, they deserve each other.
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I couldn't agree with you more!
I couldn't agree more.
You have a very good understanding of narcissism and explain it really well.
I think Harry sometimes reveals her private campaigns to him of him great she is. For example, how did he get the idea that his family were jealous of Meghan and her performance in Australia. I'm sure that idea was fed to him by her. She exploits his grief and acts like his mother's proxy to fulfil his need to protect his mother.
Thank you! Yes definitely fed to him
He’s tied to her now. As long as she plays victim he’s compelled to rescue her because he failed to save one mother and he can’t afford to lose another, for the sake of his mental health. I dread to think what will become of him if she ever dumps him like she’s dumped everyone else.
Another reason H&MM "have" to say the family was jealous after MM's successful Australian tour is because it is exactly what Diana said.
It is weird how often they use Diana's experience/words/behaviour and pretend it's their own.
But then, Haz fell in "love" with Markle because she copied his Mum. 😝
So there is some kind of personality disorder right there.
That's it. He's damaged but in a different way.
I've just halted the vid at Harry's Australian tour claim and asked myself - if the RF's attitude did change then, what happened in Australia (putting aside H's paranoid beliefs about jealousy) that might have their altered their feelings about MM? There's a lot of gossip about very bad behaviour at the Governor General's residence ...
Excellent video. That woman has destroyed him.
I wonder where it will end?
& he has helped
What I don't get is Harry's forever changing "reasons" of why the RF didn't like Meghan.
At first, they loved her.
Then they were jealous.
Then they realized she couldn't be controlled by the "firm".
Then the RF is racist?
Like which one is it?
And if they were racist, they wouldn't have liked her to begin with. They would've shunned her from the beginning.
Same with the tabloids. But even he admitted that both the family and the public LOVED Meghan from the start.
Yes, she had it made but ruined it all.
And it all started to go bad when her bad behavior started coming out, which they don't want to admit to. I think she thought the royal family was going to "protect" her from bad press but when they kept to the never complain/never explain she was pissed. Everyone in the royal family has gotten bad press at one time or another, she wasn't the first and won't be the last And I also do not think that everyone that does not like her is a racist, bad behavior is bad behavior. I know they've won some of the many court cases but what have they lost, like having to apologize to a judge for "forgetting" that she provided information for that book?
The changing stories suggests the problem was with H&M. She was welcomed and supported by the RF and the British Public. When they didn’t get their way continually bucking protocol they threw their dummies in the dirt. It’s been “poor me” ever since
Meghan put ideas into his mind, it is obvious she is the story teller. Whatever she says he believes.
Was married to a narcissist for twenty years. That's exactly how he reeled the 19 year old me into the relationship, then came devaluation. I didn't know it was that at the time, I was just made to understand that I was somehow doing something wrong. It wasn't until I got away with my children and cat intact did I start to realise that I'd done nothing wrong. Now looking back 50 years, I realise just how well he played me.
Power to you, that you got away
After the love bomb you get cut off from your family/friends everything you were once "loved" for-enjoying a cup of tea in the evening or other such innocence -becomes something you're loathed for , you can't do right for doing wrong , every time you enjoy a chat with someone you're undermined or mocked , you end up dreading "choice" Shall we turn to the left or turn to the right ?" "You decide" and if you go to the right you're crucified for not going left (and know full well if you'd gone left you'd be crucified for not going right........Yep, I was well pleased to leave. Things fell apart when I started standing up to it. That always gets them.
So I do want to add one thing. Typically, growing up with a narcissistic brings about borderline traits rather than narcissistic traits. The idea that being with a narcissistic creates more narcissism is incorrect from a clinical point of view. The predominant trait of having say a narcissistic parent is self-doubt, not self-interest. To a lesser extent, the same applies for romantic or any close long-lasting relationship
But i don't think she was straight up calling him one, she said people asking why he's behaving like one and has he always been this arrogant. She's saying why he's seemingly coming off like one.
@@citrusbutter7718 agreed. I am of the opinion that he was always the spoiled, entitled man-child that we see today, but that he was expertly handled and managed so none of it showed. But it made it incredibly easy for his wife to use for her purposes. She didn't have to convince him, trick him or make demands to get what she wanted. He was already there, behind the facade, just waiting for someone to let it out.
@@LizRealGirlBeauty I agree. H stated his wish to leave the RF on numerous occasions but was too lazy, inept and idle to act alone so purposely selected the aggressive markle to aid his exit and in his mind provide the life he believed he deserved outside of the shadow of his brother and family. Let's not forget pre megaliar H was quoted as saying the media and public would eventually lose interst in him as the Cambridge children came of age.
I understand but I don't know if she was saying he had traits but rather, he is a mouthpiece for the narcissist. Certainly he seems riddled with anxiety now. Thanks for this though - interesting.
She has brought his narcissist characteristics to the fore to match hers.
As an Aussie i absolutely hate when other countries think our constitution & laws are ridiculous & out spoken non Aussie's on the other side of the planet that have never been near Australia yet they think they can tell us & how ridiculous our laws are but i would never call another country's constitution or laws ridiculous, in public anyway lol but H doesn't know anything about America's constitution, he admitted that but still went ahead calling America 1st amendment bonkers. Haz mate 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
As an American, I understand. Our government is far from perfect but a democracy is a work in process. As a guest, he should stay silent until he has his citizenship.
@@maggiesays7827 Yep! Exactly! But for some unknown reason (M) he now thinks that coz he's been in the US for 5 mins that he has the right to comment. It's amazing he thinks the 1st Amendment is Bonkers yet he was able to say that comment thru shock! horror! 😲 The 1st Amendment! He need to keep hush & zip it! I'm not understanding what they both want? Do they want nobody in the world to be able to be free to speak their minds except for the both of them or do they want us to live in a middle eastern type countries where nobody, men, women & children aren't allowed to say a bad word about anything otherwise they're stoned to death, or hanged or shot etc etc etc... More or less go back into the middle ages. They totally believe that what we have to say isn't important but everything they say is gospel
@@Tully_23_32 You have it right. They don't want anyone to have the right to hurt their feelings by telling the truth.
@@Tully_23_32 I get you, its like when I hear Americans saying stuff about the UK because of all of Meghan's nonsense insinuations... I just get my best Oprah face on and go "What!?!" I think its mainly cuz its very clear that they don't understand anything about us or our country.... You have to know somewhere first... Some of my faves: We're all racist; we've never had black people here before; its constantly foggy. To be fair to Harry - Americans have done the same to us - What about Meghan McCain's "monarchies are stupid" speech? (to be fair though, that made her look like an idiot) - I'm not royalist but I was offended... probably because of the wider context of that comment.
It makes him look very colonizer like 💀
"They get you to fall in love with yourself" never truer words spoken! I was devastated when I realized this happened to me. Although I was aware of some of the issues, there was always the hope that the caring, loving person really existed. It is heartbreaking when you realize the truth that all they can love and care about is themselves.
It may seem that all they can love and care about is themselves, but there's a huge difference here with narcissists.
The reality is that they wanted the good traits that you have - because they are fueled by self-hatred, not self-love. Loving people give love, they spread joy and contentment to you in a way that lasts and feel light hearted and carefree. Self hating individuals on the other hand, are insidious and usually very envious/jealous/toxic towards other people on the outside of the relationship, they are not out there spreading love and joy to people. So, in order to feel good about themselves or gain control, they seek out willing and forgiving people to help them cope with their dysfunction.
TRYING for a lifetime for ACCEPTANCE from a female parent, who used & abused you, but going back trying for acceptance when all they were was an self serving empty shell!
@@aphrolith7676 Great explanation! I can see the jealousy in Meghan sometimes when she looks at Harry who may be the center of attention for a second, and she seems furious - stiff, jaws clenched, eyes so dark that they could kill a horse in a second. In those moments it seems like she can't bear to be near her own husband and it's sad. Harry must be walking on eggshells in their home not to upset her.
@@fanni24 Thank you Fanni, I'm glad you found the explanation plausible. I have spoken from experience.
Yes - it is exactly like you described, there's that aggressive expression fueling a lot of the inner self hatred - narcs usually have a punitive/belittling superego as a coping mechanism ("If I find my own flaws, I can't be hurt by other people finding them in me") and it does usually seep out to the people around them insidious ways, as is in the case you described with Meghan and Harry, so they end up taking the brunt of it.
The danger with Harry is that, even though he is walking on eggshells around her he is completely cut off from outside voices(friends, family) that would tell him that it's not normal and actually draining on him. More interaction with the outside world, away from the emotional regulation of the narc alone, can save him.
And money
It amazes me that mindfulness - which came out of Buddhist and other religious traditions - has been co-opted by narcissists as a way to make everything about them when it is really supposed to help you let go of materialism and ego and make peace with your insignificance.
I agree, there is something to be said for recognizing one's own insignificance. Life is more peaceful.
I would love to hear how one 'wakes up' from being in love with a narcissist? Is there small cracks that appear? Or does it all break down at once? Are there stages someone goes through when they fall out of love with a narcissist and finally leave?
The narcissist discards the person. Harry will not leave her.
Look how easily she discarded people like her father and ex husband.
I think I will make a video about why it's so hard to leave a narcissist. Like Tania is saying, it's usually when people get discarded by the narcissist that they are able to leave.
It all depends on the victim. It is very difficult to leave a narcissist but it is possible. The victim would need to leave during the devaluation stage or when they are being discarded for another primary source of fuel and it helps if they have somewhere or someone to escape to. The narcissist will have their victim burn all bridges so they have nowhere to go.
Harry is more valuable than her actual husband so she won't discard him easily...but life is unpredictable and Harry is unstable and I think she already has a hard time controlling him, I could be seeing things but I see a little rebellion against her control...it's very subtle.
@@laurenprince4732 I think you're right. I see it too.
As always I agree with you - it's why I don't share this "He will never be welcome back," attitude. I have had to deal with a narcissist invading my family, making someone I love into someone I don't recognise and even character assassinating me in an attempt to make me into a pariah. I see the similarities and honestly, seeing them together often raises my anxiety - I just hope he gets out.
He's just a jerk.
His sense of entitlement mixed with her lack of humility make for a toxic mix. They don't seem to bring out the best in each other. So much destruction in their wake and they seem perfectly fine about it.
Both thrive on chaos and drama. And plays into their victimhood. What a sad life they have - devoid of normal feelings, especially M.
Why the hell did Oprah ask him if Megan saved him????? What a demeaning question for him and ego boosting question for Megan!!!
This is an excellent explanation of how a relationship with a narcissist cycles itself.
Prince William is very caring.
Harry has become a narcissist thanks to Meghan Markle.
Could you please a video on Thomas Markle? I kinda feel like he's also a narcissist. He is always always about Meghan but never about his other kids
🌼🐛🌺 ELAINE WASHINGTON 🌺🐛🌼
THOMAS MARKLE I FOUND TALKS ABOUT
HIS DAUGHTER IN ALL HIS INTERVIEWS
'CAUSE THATS ALL THE INTERVIEWER
QUESTIONS ASK. DAD THEN FALLS IN
LINE. ALL THE QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT
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HAVE ANY INTEREST IN MEGANS DAD.
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Dead on
There's no comparison between her and Diana. None. He seems utterly and hopelessly deluded. Very tragic.
I have been late by 4 months, but this video changed my life. I have been an internal narcissist where I wanted to be the center of attention of a lot of people, mainly because of my past traumatic experiences with socializing with people. This video shed some light, and now I feel completely fine with my friends or other people being more closer to other people than me. It's okay to not be exceptionally recognized.
How are you doing ?
@@nice2173 well now I'm concentrating in activities I love and haven't thought much about the attention from my friends, and I guess I feel better...? I definitely feel relieved and fresh now a days. Thank you for asking!!
wow! I did not know about prince William and his true kindness and realness, a true King! good for him
We do need to factor in that selfishness is becoming more and more common nowadays. When culture tells people from a young age to worry about themselves and only do what makes them happy, a lot of people just start caring about themselves and no longer acknowledging the feeligs of others close to them (they might be able to say they care about this big group of faceless people that they don't know but they don't actually care inside).
@@maxi7752 agree
You can even see with the footage the bit where M sits down is grabbing at H to tell him to sit down, but you can see he was waiting for the women in the other seats to sit down first.
He was trying to be a gentleman, and he was probably trained to do that in regards to general etiquette.
If M took more cues from H on how to go about things, and not just crammed herself in (like Ivanka Trump did in the footage of world leaders having a conversation with each other) she probably would find there would be less people questioning her every move. Because she would have been following royal protocol.
The nail that sticks out gets hammered, and M can’t help but stick herself out trying to catch peoples clothes or flesh…
Yes exactly
It took me years to know that my husband was a narcissist.Isolating me from my family, making me believe they were in the wrong. It's only now that I understand this behaviour and will take Harry years too. By that time, it's too late to get out of the relationship.
First ! 😁 I love your channel. And i was waiting for your update on Harry and Megan situation.
Yes!
You are so right on one aspect regarding how both brothers use their grief. Harry uses his for his own gain, whereas William uses his grief to help others .
I have read in some psych paper, sorry can't remember source, that narcissism can be considered a communicable 'disease'.
Very interesting! Will look up
You are so concise and accurate, spot on. You've explained narcissist vs narcissist prey. My husband was just like this then once married BAM he did a Jekkyl and Hyde. He was nothing like that person why lead me to believe what I see is really him, NO it's not! Sound familiar? Yup Meghan did the same once wedding over then in public people noticed as did the media. Then when they reported she did exactly what she "meticulously manipulated". It set them up for her step one to get back to CA USA, use the Race Card.
Sound familiar? Letter to her dad Jason Knauf's evidence of emails, texts proved Meghan said she "meticulously manipulated" that letter for public sympathy. Yes but it was also for her dad to go public contradicting her accusations falsehoods aka LIES speak with the media since she refused to take his calls or texts. Then when the media erroneously reported more lines, characters than permitted BUT they wrote the truth. She did NOT win on the media printing the letter as was her original intent to sue the paper. It was that very fine thin line, literally, printing too much.
The Judge in his Legal word findings said so. Regardless she admitted to MANIPULATED that letter that normally would be a very personal one but clearly it was not. I loved my dad dearly , we were always very close and as an adult into my 60s and he 80 he passed away 5 yrs ago this Dec 2022. I miss him every day dearly just to hear his voice, listen to his humorous stories about the women in his Senior bldg, he was my confidant, a very wise man!
I could never ever do such a horrendous heinous manipulative acts without any regrets, apologies for breaking the heart of the man who loved and adored her. The same man who on her Tig pre Harry she raved & thanked consistently for being the very best dad, her best dad, most supportive of her all all her life, raised her and provided a wonderful life for her. Wow amazing well shocking the extremely abrupt change. To set him up is beyond despicable so much that it's difficult to find the adjective to fully express the depth of her evil calculated scheming and still today. This is Meghan Markle
I believe my ex-husband is a covert narc. He changed after we got married. Bait and Switch! Narcs also project what they are doing onto others. Once I realized this, when my ex accused me of doing something, I knew what he was doing behind my back. Narcs think they are so clever, but they are not.
@@JoyJoy-sc1ov yes you are so right. My husband to be ex is a Grandiose Overt Malignant Narcissist. It's hell when you see them with their MASK off but it's shocking at first then whenever they say or do something and you see their reactions or listen to their exaggerated lies stories they come up with is mind boggling. You question yourself during the first of many different things once the mask is off like how did I not see the signs, why did I ignore them then you go back over the times you remember this and that then you remember you gave leeway given getting to know each other, each were married to their Late spouses for about 30+ years so it takes time, each set in your own ways so they'll be compromised and we all have our weaknesses and faults.
So you realize they took advantage of your kindness, grace and willing to work thru it. When they weren't. When they had a moment of weakness their mask slid a bit they were swift to apologize appear sincere and promise to work on it. Or just having a bad day, work is stressful the boss or coworker is a ass, a jerk complains about them. When later you discover just more lies when in fact he has performance issues and lack of respect for coworkers. The list goes on. You beat yourself up quite awhile but finally then since your eyes are wide open you are wiser to the narc's manipulations, schemes, you have a built in radar when they're hiding things being sneaky etc, you find evidence.
It's nauseating to observe their sickness when they will lie to your face, deflect, project lie on top of lie never blink. Even when you prove they lie they abruptly go into extreme defense mode then start yelling at you they won't let you get a word in then you get upset and raising your voice then they get this look of satisfaction but trying not to show it. They suck you into engaging their sick mind games but only because your trying to get thru to the person you trusted, had faith in, believed in and gave your heart.
They did not with you. You are just a means to an end. You didn't notice before because you didn't have a full understanding of the level of evil sickness your dealing with until one day you do After awhile may be a long while but one day no more tears no engaging, not angry and.do not live. There's only indifference!!
This they can't handle even if they've found someone else and most do while with you but you've bruised their self inflated ego. But your done. That's the first day of the rest of your life. So if there's red flags no matter how little, do not make any excuses to justify them because they show you so much good and apologize & sweet nothings. Proceed with great caution. Stay alert.
@@carolamottfenstermacher3555 I totally get you! Getting divorced was the best thing to happen!! Be well!
Any cure for Narcissism? And how do you avoid raising one?
Great video as usual.
Cinema therapy did a video when they talked about Tony Stark.
You can't cure a mid-range narcissist like Meghan. She will never change because she genuinely believes nothing is ever her fault and she takes no responsibility for the harm she has done. Her narcissistic mind really believes that she is the real victim, and everyone is her persecutor if you are against her.
Narcissism is incurable because they won’t admit there is anything wrong with themselves. Don’t spoil a child to avoid narcissism. Pull them up when they are being selfish, unkind, unhelpful, etc.
@@morningglory3644 I would have called her grandiose
Interesting question. Whether narcissism is due to "nature" or "nurture" has been explored by many experts, such as Dr Ramani on YT (MedCircle, "Understanding the Narc, Why do they treat you this way?"), and the answer seems to be, sometimes nature, sometimes nurture, and sometime a little of both. For example, the amygdala is the part of the brain which deals with fight / flight / empathy / emotion (anger, fear, anxiety, excitement) etc. Amygdala hijack is when the brain reacts to psychological stress as if it is a physical threat, resulting in an inability to respond rationally to a perceived threat. (H?)
Then again, if the amygdala is not functioning correctly, there may be a complete lack of empathy (psychopathy), even though the person is otherwise very intelligent. Or there may be an inability to communicate appropriately ... for example, some children on the ADHD or autistic spectrum cannot "read emotions in other people's faces" or pick up subtle signs very well, so someone who has mild autistic tendencies might be viewed as narcissistic, even though their "self-absorbed" behavior arises from a different condition.
It is also thought that an over-indulgent upbringing, with lack of proper boundaries, and poor parental guidance at an early age on how one should treat other people, (the "golden child" syndrome) can all contribute to this narc behavior, because there have never been any "adverse consequences" to their "spoilt brat" conduct during their formative years. It is a fascinating subject.
Your analysis provides insight on why they behave as they do. Thank you so much.
An excellent video! Thank you. I pick up two things so strongly from it. One, H always looks so depressed/out of it/uncomfortable and two, M is always so physically controlling towards him. Always leading him.
And her perpetually holding her death grip on his arms and hands. I don't know how anyone could take that??
Fantastic analysis. It’s clear that you have an intimate understanding of how narcissists operate
Thanks for highlighting this. I was in a relationship with two narcissists and I was an absolute asshole and behaved narcissistically myself, which was entirely out of character.
To be fair, burnout can happen at any social class, and I do believe that being a British royal can be very demanding at times. Wealth does not equal no problems in life. However, I think it is her influence on him that is causing his change in behaviour.
She went for the typical 'victim' that a narcissist goes for: someone in a vulnerable position mentally. He was experiencing some burnout. Then you shower them with love, to appear like the one ray of sunshine, while secretly isolating him from friends and family, creating drama to 'defend' him from, and making it seem like everyone is out to get him, only she is on his side. She gets him to a low enough point mentally, and then build him up the way she wants him. At this point, he is so brainwashed, he is following her every que. Once they are done using you, they usually discard you. Sometimes, they will pull you back in, and then discard you again. I am truly sorry if she actually is innocent in all of this. But I have dealt with people like that before, and she behaves exactly the same way.
People need to be educated about these narcissists. They need to be stopped before they destroy people's lives and rob them of their happiness. Very well done as always.
I still love the way you pointed out hes actually not a narcissist, just being controlled by one
Another superb video, thank you! Excellent comparison with William.
im having goosebumps watching this video. this is what happened to me years ago. my relative said i no longer thought as who she knew me to be but i took the pattern of thinking of my former partner. I thank God for taking me out of it. The relationship brought the worst i had out of me.
I was beimg hated for coming off as selfish and rude. But by that time i realized that it is better i repulse my family and friends than ask for direct hostility between them and the narcissist and later demand my family to apologise to him and his family again and again.
My family, extended members even- realized this is not the real me. I have always been chummy, nice, naive, funny too at times. But ever since i married him ie the relationship had a socially acknowledged label on it- things juat fell apart.
One of my aunts on the other hand who has been a severe victim and is now nearly 60, is being berated because of how she acts according to the narcissistic husband’s desires, always causing family feuds and isolating her. All of our family and extended family members blane her for letting him act this way and not being able to hold ground. A lot like the people in this comment section actually. But i feel her to the bones. It’s not like she is 0% complicit, bit she definitely isn’t coming up with the ideas all by herself. She is one of those people who just dont have the capacity to hurt anyone.
I keep explaining my family. But their indifference makes me wonder why exactly they separated me from my NPD husband and not my aunt as well? She had 3 kids with him then, and now she is old and needs lots of maintenance. Her children aren’t exactly narcissists but to then this is the only way to be. This is how people sray happy- by bullying others, hurting others, bulldozing other people's dreams and hopes and crushing them with their expectations.
Soemtimes people become the thing that twisted them. From a lay perspective, I saw it happen with a member of my family. One person was emotionally abused by their partner, and later became an emotional abuser towards their children.
If Harry would tell his wife to stop tipping the paps off he wouldn’t need to worry. She complains to him about them but she loves the attention it shows how much she manipulates him.
This is such an excellent video. You explained all of this so well, and made it easy to understand his change. Thank you! Would you consider doing a video on how having a narcissistic parent affects children? Because there is definitely vocalized concerned for them.
Yes will do!
@@BaggageClaim Will Lady C's book about her mother be in the research for that one? :D
Megan is the narcissist, she has used mirroring, and love bombing on Harry when in the engagement interview he said " she gets me" "she understands me" is a classic and how quickly he proposed, a narcissist can't keep up the nice act the mask slips, no doubt he has had also been through gas lighting and her rage, but he is now trapped in different country, away from family and friends with only Megan and his children - God help the children 🙏
Loved this take too…and still just super happy to have you back and dropping videos.
Thank you happy to be back
How insightful you are. You also have a wonderful voice.
I love that Megan whisked him away to the US, where 90% of the country couldn’t care less what they are doing or saying. Truly a bubble in this country.
The best summary of H's personality and relationship with MM I've seen on youtube. And all in 12 minutes! Btw BC, I had an article published in a psychotherapy/counselling journal criticising the self esteem movement nearly 25 years ago, so I'm completely on board with your comments from 9.4 onwards.
I enjoy your videos so much. You always explain things in a level-headed, insightful manner.
my cousin was a victim to a narcissist. distanced himself from a family because she said we are the bad ones. but to few years later he is divorced, jobless, lost his kids and house because she simply didnt want him anymore
My brother did the same he came back to everyone he distanced himself from when she left him for the latest model, who in turn dumped her.
This man got TONS of pity and sympathy because of his loss. ,As he grew up ,he saw that that emotion could be manipulated to his favor. Anything wrong he did,any shortcomings he had ,were EXCUSED because everyone felt sorry for him. His mother's death now became his GOLDEN TICKET to get what wanted with no questions asked.
Great analysis. As with Harry, I was married to a narcissist and worked myself into knots with others to keep the peace behind closed doors. Alienating friends and families. When I learned about NPD after googling “extreme selfishness” - and read multiple books and went to Codependents Anonymous - scales quickly fell from eyes. No more listening to lies of the woman who made me the insignificant other. Divorced quickly afterwards and was able to repair relationships.
Know that look of Harry - unhappy and careful to say the right thing in front of the narc. Hope he wises up for his own sake.
(Ps - respect for the maturity and empathy William showed -esp. compared to his brother)
Great channel ! Thanks for your hard work !
Thank you!
The woman is married to the fool for 4 years now and she is still alive! Those hitmen are not worth their salt...are they?
Oh that'll happen in the UK. Proving them right about security!
@@auntylinda7640 the only person who wanted to K-i-l-l Harry's wife was Harry's wife...from her own mouth!
The problem with being “born” a royal, is that the rules are automatically reversed from what average people have. Being born a royal means you are given huge riches, which you have to spend the rest of your live earning. In contrast, other people have to actually earn the riches they gain. Not everyone who is born a royal is equipped to do this.
Agree
He's an absolute disgrace.
Your explanation of the narcissistic dynamics at play are clear, insightful, and excellent. Thank you for bringing a level-headed perspective that we can all relate to and benefit from!
It's crazy that the day after I watch this I come across a Scientific American article from 2015 (pocket in Firefox likes to throw up old articles) about narcissism. It reinforced so much of what you said - although your presentation is a little more interesting, since it has a more real-world application. One quote from the article struck me the most. Narcissists "are good at being popular, making new friends, and acquiring social status, but are really quite terrible at sustaining anything meaningful and intimate." This is Meghan Markle in a nutshell. I was intrigued by her effervescent smile and apparent spunkiness - but now I just can't stand her arrogance and overbearing self-confidence.
Anyway, love your vids and channel. Keep it up!
Thank you for covering this! Watching schools teach kids to think this way is horrifying.
I really love your videos! Your analysis is so spot on! And you quoted Uncle Iroh from The Avatar! That series is full of gems, I love it! ❤️❤️👋🏽🇨🇦
Yay glad you liked it!
Agree! Uncle Iroh was such a nice touch
Oh I thought this was an old one and I was clicking on it to rewatch Lol.
I'm early for once.
Love your channel!
Yay, welcome back!
Absolutely brilliant video
Thank you!
Wow! Love this. Sadly the narcissist will not recognize humility, A lost cause for Harry and Megan. Even if Harry wanted to leave not certain he is mentally strong enough.
Very interesting view on falling in love with a narcissist. It occurred to me that in Greek mythology, it is Echo that falls in love with Narcissus. This struck me as particularly apt and possibly insightful both on your part, and on that of the ancient Greeks.
You’ve done such a great job answering this question. As always, your explanation is clear, concise and spot-on. On the surface the actions of narcissists and those close to them can appear to be such a confusing tangle. I appreciate your clarity. Keep up the great work! 🧐😊
When you said Harry WASNT a narcissist and then started to give examples from their relationship, you really opened my eyes. A Job well done!!
I swear if the Simpsons becomes right about bloody Harry, I give up
What did the Simpsons say about it?
Yes, I'm curious to know too, lol.
@@BaggageClaim this is what I found on Google:
The animated TV show's most recent show entitled 'Holidays of Future Passed' makes reference to tyrants of the past and jokes that Prince Harry became "Bloody Harry".
In a scene where Lisa Simpson seeks parenting advice from her own father Homer, she says: "My daughter thinks I'm a ruthless tyrant like Hitler or Prince Harry," with Homer replying "Ah. Bloody harry, he brought back beheading in a big way." 👀😳
@@BaggageClaim yeah what he said
It feels like William uses his pain to connect with other people while Harry uses his pain to keep people at distance.
I genuinely wonder how they ended up processing their grief so differently...
Thank you vm for this video. Very well explained. Easy to understand. The tone in your voice is pleasing to listen to and because of that, eventually made me continue to watch / listen 😊
William and Catherine have never shined brighter - I have such admiration for them and how they handle themselves with such dignity, grace, and heart.
Yes, he's BONKERS.
“Humility is the answer to a lot of our problems in life.” ❤️
06:35 - I think you nailed it on the question of whether Harry's a narcissist. He's not a narcissist, he's just in love with one. Princess Diana did NOT raise a narcissist, in fact, she went out of her way to make sure her boys were raised as well-rounded individuals, who were exposed to the every-day struggles normal people had to go through. She even had them scrubbing toilets in South America, something no royal has ever done in the history of the monarchy. Everything his mother tried to instill in him went out the window the day he met his wife.
You're a great analyst, thanks ! Harry is still very affected by his mother's death. Meghan has taken full advantage of that vulnerability in her quest for personal recognition. I don't even buy that she's an instinctual mother. Who knows how he'd be behaving now if he'd never met her. Real shame
Narcissism, victimhood complex, and histrionic personality disorder!
About the Australia tour -- wasn't that when Meghan threw hot tea at a member of the staff ( or a household employee) ánd insulted the Givernor's wife?
I learn so much about people and myself when I watch your videos, the breakdown always goes beyond just Harry and Meghan. Thank you for putting out such great content.
Wow, BaggageClaim, I am SO glad I watched this. I was in an abusive marriage for 6 years and I'm unsure if he was a narcissist, but he used similar tactics like the "you start to love yourself" thing. (He even admitted that when he met me, he thought I was so full of self-hate he wanted me to know how I truly deserved to be treated). And I changed during that relationship for better and worse. Towards the end, he would scream and gaslight about how *I* had become a narcissist and was now a bad person when I fought back to take control of my life. He even began siding with the people he once convinced me were awful, saying that "now he knew the truth about me and felt bad or sympathy for them because they must have had to deal with me my whole life liie this."
I took all this as gaslighting for a long time, but I do notice I am not the same person I was before being involved with him. I keep pondering what happened to me and feeling like, "Can you TURN into a narcissist as an adult from abuse if you weren't? Did he turn me into one? Was I one just waiting to be unlocked?"
I've never seen or heard such an explanation of how you can morph in a relationship like that. I am going to take this to heart and explore it further, bc I feel I no longer can love people. Thank you for sharing this and potentially helping me as I try to find some answers.
Excellent video! I really like they way you show the contrast between the two brothers in how they handle situations/discussions, especially around their mother. The change in Harry is really sad, from fun loving man to the constant everyone is out to get us. It's fascinating that the family that loved him all his life and welcomed Megan so warmly, that I think at one point he said they were the family she never had, went from that to racist, mental health destroying, jealous monsters that didn't give a damn about the two of them in such a short time. I'm also seeing a change in the number of people that feel sorry for him over the loss of Diana. I mean I don't see as many people saying he lost his mom when he was young so back off, instead it's more like I lost a parent too when I was young, I miss them every day but I had to move in with life and you need to as well Harry. Maybe that is just me.
This video is a great example of why I am subbed to your channel. Well done.
I love William and Kate. They are pure class and wonderful people . We are imperfect, but wow do they strive to help others.
When Meghan said Harry saved them... she’s putting on the blame on him that it was his decision to leave. Scapegoat. Shes evil
Megan's face at around 8:30 says it all - "my con job worked" . Similar to her expression at the wedding after they exchanged their vows - she seems to say - "I've got him now".
Yes She duped him The Queen however was not amused 😒 and saw right thru her but it was too late
The problem started way before Diana's death. The boys knew from childhood that William was heir and Harry was spare. While sibling rivalry is normal, rank is a permanent imbalance to Harry's disadvantage. Young William walked the straight and narrow so Harry played the brat. The family overindulged Harry's misbehavior to compensate for William's rank. The indulgence grew even worse at Diana's passing. Who could scold a grieving child? Also, Diana's death occurred at a crucial age in Harry's relationship to his mother, the demands for her complete attention. William was a little older and had made some progress through that stage. For Harry it was arrested development that could never be resolved. Enter Meghan, the mommy surrogate with benefits, deliberately channeling Diana. Meghan was ready, willing, and able to prey on every weakness in Harry's character. She told him what he most wanted to hear, what no decent soul would feed him. Remember how she used to gaze at him in rapt adoration. Now she shoves him out of her way.
Except Harry was a stable and decent working royal that accomplished his work accordingly till Meghan. He was still a decent functioning person at least in public. He could've easily matured and outgrown being affected by being the spare. While the death of Diana definitely fucked him up differently than William, I dont think his behaviour now is that deeply rooted in his childhood. Then again, what do we outsiders know...
I am always looking forward to your analyses about narcissism, so enlightening. Keep up the excellent work!
This is one of the most on-point and insightful videos I’ve ever seen on narcissism- you seem to have a deeper understanding of it than most professional psychologists (maybe you are, not sure) 😊