THE FAILED BUFFY SPIN OFFS
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- Buffy The Vampire Slayer is beloved by many, as is it's spin off, Angel. But what many don't know is that there was many more sequel series planned. From a Faith The Vampire Slayer series to a Giles solo movie to an Animated Series.
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The Spike and Faith spin-offs sounded awesome!!
There was also Buffy video games
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A spike and willow one
@@sallypenno164 oh my god yes
The spin-off should have been the Tales of the Slayer. Could jumped around different time periods, from the start of humanity, up to modern times, vastly different slayers, in different social political period: a slayer in the Second World War, during the French Revolution, a West African tribe during the 16th Century, a Black teenager in the Jim Crowe South. So much potential for fascinating stories.
Love this idea.
This is an amazing Idea
Wow!
Totally, I think an anthology series would be sooo lit! Such a rich environment
I've been saying this for so long! Even if they couldn't do live action, adult animation could allow for bigger, more epic stories without budget constraints
I wish we had more shows like Buffy nowadays.
I do too...so unfortunate!!
What about Supernatural?
If Buffy came out nowadays y'all be shrieking about sjw propaganda, lgbt agenda and other such non issues.
Tom Ash Willow was a lesbian, so the show did deal with some LQBT issues, granted they didnt do that much with it.
@@dodson43 Willow/Tara relationship is recognised by great many fans as strongest part of the later seasons. The controversial part would be Willow being written as hetero for a better half of the show. If season 5 happened last year there would be more anti-sjw videos about it than about cpt marvel, she-ra and star wars put together.
I would have liked to see The Giles/Ripper spin off show
If we get Anthony Head in more performances in general, I'll be one happy fangirl... 💖
Yes but I would have liked to have seen that more as a prequel say starting when Giles was Buffy's age and let's see the trouble he gets himself into and see what moved him to become the Giles we know
Jon Sumner that would have been awesome
@Mark Guerrero yes but if they do say like as a Smallville type show then two things about at number one we can go into more detail than we could just a movie and number two we won't have to worry about if Head died because if he was in it would just be as a narrator. Instead we'd get a younger actor with similar features to Head who could play a young Gillian's.
GOD if there had been a Spike movie to come out when I was a teenager, I think I would have exploded
Me too!
😍😍😍😍😍😍
Not gonna lie, I probably would've fallen for blonde guys faster if a Spike movie or spin off series had come out. Marsters stole my fucking heart, in the Buffy series.
You mean...explode down there?
Nope. Nuh uh. You're not allowed to.mark out for Blondie Bear after he tried to RAEP BUFFY IN THE BATHTUB ya big galoot!
"Ripper" would have been massively popular in England! writes an English fan!
Personally I would've liked to have seen more prequel action from Angel and Spike. I love all the flashbacks from their evil days. More origin stuff. I loved the twist about Spike killing the slayer mother of Robin Wood.
Buffy the Animated Show would had me hooked. I remember something that I read in the Buffy fan club Magazine that most of the animated episodes in this series would have had elements that were pitched in season one and in season two that couldn't been done at the time due to budgetary restraints. It would have been cool to see a monster formed out of hellish cafeteria food be the big bad for one episode or Angel fight a giant Black Dragon.
Absolutely loved Buffy and Angel. I wish we had gotten another spin off series to keep it all going 😢
Or they could have at least ended Angel properly
Yes....I would have taken another season of Angel. Something. I just wish I could afford all the comics but I'm barely surviving as is. Cable bill or comics? Tough choice.....I wish I had a smart Tv so I could just say the hell with it all and go with Netflix or something
Ripper always kind of reminded me of John Constantine. I do remember talk about a Ripper project.
Tru calling was my shizz but I would’ve loved a faith spin off. I think I related so much to that character. Eliza really brought a lot to that role and all her follow ups, Dollhouse was really good as well.
Yessss
tru calling was JUST getting really good before they cancelled it, i don't know if you've read what they had planned but it was cool as hell: tightropegirl.livejournal.com/8190.html tightropegirl.livejournal.com/8396.html tightropegirl.livejournal.com/8630.html
I really liked Dollhouse
Don Solo Faith The Vampire Slayer would have been an instant hit I'm sure! I don't understand why Eliza turned it down.
carlee elizabeth thank you for this. I actually really liked Tru Calling. But I only found out about it after it had been cancelled.
Angel season 6. That one still hurts.
I would've been down for a Giles spin off, the whole aunts who don't age thing sounds pretty cool
6:00 He was also busy with Bones, if I recall it right.
And the irony of this is that all this was thanks to the movie starring Christy Swanson and Luke Perry 😂
Faith is my favorite Buffyverse character so I would have been absolutely down for a Faith spin-off. Also a Spike and Illyria show would have been amazing!
Damn, I still want a spin-off show with Spike. He's probably my favorite character of all time.
The whole thing with Dawn in the animated series was it was supposed to show us the memories that were implanted into Buffy that we didn't get to see because well she didn't exist until season 5.
The only one I would have watched personally would have been a Faith series.
Yep.....Eliza should have taken the road of Faith considering that other show she did completely bombed. She'd have made more money anyways and I think it would have been more of a success just because of the relationship to everything. She's a major player in both shows. You could have guest appearances from the Buffy cast and Angel cast as well. I believe that would have kept it alive....for at least 3 seasons anyways which makes it a better career choice not only for her but for any other cast member that might just get a reprising role. Or have needed a reprising role. Nicky certainly could have used one and Xander certainly had the history with Faith to build on in a new series. Or they could have went a different direction with D.B. The principal could have had a guest role. The Faith show was certainly the best option that makes sense cause there's just so many directions they could have went.....so much they could do with it. I can see why it would have been the only 1 you'd watch....its the only 1 that would have survived a single season anyways
The Faith TV series would have been cool. I always liked Faith.
Anything with Eliza I’d watch.
If the cartoon was never aired, why do I remember watching a buffy cartoon when I was younger?
Yes! Same here! I'm very, very sure I have watched it too
There is a video presentation on YT.
There were a lot of cartoons that tried only a handful of episodes and never got picked up, chances are, there was a similar one and you’re just misremembering it. It’s weird that our minds do that, but they do. Before I ever watched Buffy, I swore up and down I knew the theme song was like cartoony and much different than the actually theme, but I guess I just remember something else that I associated with Buffy :/ that’s why the Mandela Effect has such strong support
History was re-written to include Dawn, she was there in everyone's memory, that's how.
In fact she's included in the comics that retell Buffy's origin.
@peter she was supposed to have powers in the show. I can't remember the reason why she didn't at the moment.
It's weird when you think about it. Either the monks were powerful enough to literally re-write reality so that Dawn did exist for those 14 years which technically means that the first 4 seasons of Buffy are non-canon, or they just changed everyone's memories to think she existed, which would mean that this animated series and any other stories that feature pre-season 5 Dawn are non-canon.
They should try and do another take on a Buffy animated series with Sarah Michelle Gellar back!
Used to have the BIGGEST crush on that cutie Eliza Dushku ❤ such a beautiful woman
“But I digress. I digress...”
that moment totally got me! 🤣
I would have the same reaction. I’m all about that continuity!
The spike spin off sounds too much like Angel's backstory.
Ripper sounds like the best idea. Tough to do anything with Spike or Angel with the actors aging. The cartoon probably would have been more for kids so continuity doesn't matter. Supposedly, even if Dawn wasn't there for real, everyone's memories would have her there.
I wouldn't have minded seeing a Charmed-ish Willow spin-off series. The Giles spin-off sounds pretty cool too. I should probably check out the comics someday. I'm mostly disappointed the animated series never got greenlit. They could've played it back-to-back with the Sabrina animated series.
I know how Dawn would've worked. When she was created everyone's memories were changed to make it seem like she was always around so the animated shows would've been their memories of the events, rather than the events themselves. Also, it's possible that maybe these memories were messed with which is why the live-action series never mentioned them.
The memories aren't messed. One proof is that in Angel S4, Angelus knows her. And Xander always says that she has a crush on him
The ultimate spin-off was written into the show's theme..."In every generation, a slayer is born." Just do a show where every episode or season is dedicated to a different slayer from a different time period. Use the watchers as a framing device, since they recorded the exploits of all the slayers throughout history. You could even do future slayers, since Buffy didn't destroy all evil, just the hellmouth in Sunnydale. You could also do a contest and have the fans vote on which slayer stands out as the best, and give her her own series. Netflix would be a great platform for this and would allow them to get away with way more than they could on a network show. The Buffyverse has so much potential for characters and ideas, seems a shame to focus on just one character. What do you guys think?
I love the idea of this. I'd actually watch this but I just don't know if anyone will work with Joss again which sucks.
I think dawn being in the animated series could be how the gang remembered the events after she was made and their memories altered
... or time travel
this, we saw buffys life without Dawn after she was made some of those events changed drastically in their heads, so we could have seen how Dawn changed what we saw. Maybe have it be like dawns diary of events.
@@gnarleytarley3870 exactly like in the comics it showed that dawn getting held hostage instead of willow
It could lead to interesting what ifs
Also it'd be a perfect reveal to those who don't know about the key. The new audience at least gets more time to know and care about dawn
I think Giles was a wasted idea. He had such an interesting background and I think the show could’ve done well if it had been done right, which, sounds like they couldn’t find the right way to do it right. Dollhouse is only 2 seasons but it’s totally worth watching. And it ends well.
I absolutely adore Buffy. Angel was also a classic
I totally wanted to see the Faith the SErie show but I get why it didn't happen. That whole potentials thing always got me becasue i was just talking to someone the other day. They said that anyone who would be a slayer was a slayer so did that mean there was a 2 month old baby somewhere beating the shit outta there mother or even worst being born into this worth already a superhero. As for my man David Boreanaz, do you realize that he hasn't been off tv since buffy ended. he went to his own series Angel, then he became Seeley Booth, and now that man is on Navy Seals. What ever he touches turns to gold
I'd pick the Giles spinoff.
Oh my god, I never knew - thanks for covering this! I‘d have LOVED to see the animated series and Angel movie as well as more of Faith, Giles and Spike 😍
Boom studios have a Willow spin-off. It’s pretty decent. Giving her a show would’ve been a good idea.
The Dawn being in the Animated Show despite not being created in the live show till years later was reused for the Buffy comics. Buffy comics towards the end of that run had the premise that Dawn was remembering the fake memories the monk gave her.
spike is a HUGE comfort character to me so i would’ve loved to see a spike movie sm grrrrrrr
Dude you are awesome. I've never subscribed so fast in my life.
Yo can you never mention Kennedy again? I wanna go back to pretending she never existed
I don't know who the fuck she thought she was but she really got on my nerves during that last tv season
Same, I dislike that bitch
Halfaxa7 🤣🤣🤣
Mark Guerrero so so so so true, if I’d live in this reality and be friend with Buffy, I probably still try to make that Rona be killed
I think Kennedy gets way too much hate for no reason. What was so bad about her? No one can ever really answer that question. They just don't like her because they prefer the incredibly overrated mousy character, Tara.
I read the After the Fall comics as they were published as well as some of the one shots that came out at the time. They were really good from what I remember.
Any chance of an in depth look at that series at some point?
Finally someone who loves angel as much as I do.... if you haven't checked out tpn buffy and angel guided... then what are u even doing with your life
Eliza did start a series with Joss called Dollhouse. She walked away from that as well for Tru Calling.
The slayers have amazing storylines in the comic series.
Every play the first Buffy game on Xbox?
Surprisingly good.
"Ripper" Probably would have made a great prequel series, like 20 years prior to Buffy the Vampire Slayer with Giles in his teenage years.
ITS TIME FOR A BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER ANIMATED SERIES OR MOVIE!
#ANIMATED
Love Felicia Day. Wish there would have been a spin off with her and the other be potentials
Why? We got Charlie and she’s 1000 times better on Supernatural
That's not the actress Gisele Loren in that picture, that's Giselle Loren Lazzarato aka Gigi Gorgeous, a fabulous trans youtube star :-)
Spike spinoff with witchy Willow? I'd have loved that the most!
I would've loved to see those two and more of Giles. I'll confess those three will always be my favorites from the Buffyverse.
I would love to see a remake, but Sarah is against it. Or a continuation. She could come back as a watcher and still slayer and train the other slayer that is floating about.
Anything Spike related I would've been behind 100%, even the idea of him showing up in a later season of Firefly would've been fantastic.
I still love the idea of a Buffy animated universe, it could explore alot of ideas
Angel is my favorite too. You have good taste!.
Faith spin off was a Tim Minear pitch to Joss. Faith traveling around the country on a motorcycle etc Eliza said she said no because Joss didn't want to run it day to day (I guess the idea was similar to Angel: with Tim running it on a day to day basis and Joss as the big boss without doing it 24/7 like his Buffy days)
They should be a prequel series of Ripper, an anthology series which focuses on a different slayer from the past each season, a Willow The Witch Show AND a show dealing with with 5 international slayers that have to come together to look for a now missing Buffy
Man i miss Buffy it was great, and was fun to watch after school. Got me back in horror a bit, and rewatch my old Universal Monster collection but out of these i’d be down on the animated series as i was on my Cartoon resurgence at that point in Mid to Late Jr.High early High School.
Yo, how awesome was that last episode of Angel? Best series finale I've ever seen.
Can we just agree that they absolutely nailed Once More With Feeling?
If you disagree, you have the right to your opinion, and I'll see you in the parking lot after the video.
I *love* 'Once More With Feeling'. It is, hands down, my favourite BtVS episode. The number of times I've watched it while knitting is bordering on ridiculous.
Once more with feeling was the ultimate episode for me!!!
This spin off about faith I definitely would have watched it could of been up there with the angel spin off!
You make her an angel meet backup and do cross overs etc so many good ideas
I would have watched a Faith series. I bet they could have gotten at least 3-4 seasons. Harmony could even show up in an episode or 2. We never actually seen Faith and Harmony interact
I loooved Tru Calling, and I remember being in school and going on the computer circa 2004/5 and reading on the official website that a Giles/Ripper spin off was coming. or it could have been a a Spike one. I was so excited
I'll never get tired of the intro.
Great video man, a treat for us, the Buffy fans
Yo vee is your video about the undertaker's streak gonna be reuploaded? I wasn't able to finish it unfortunately
I would have been all-in on Buffy: The Animated Series.......as a matter of fact, if any of those projects had been done with animation, they would have been just as cool, or even cooler, than the comics. And....... the comic versions could still have been created right along side of them. Plus, with animation, you have so much more potential to use concepts that just wouldn't work in live action. I don't know, I just love cartoons!! "Scooby Dooby Doo!" Thanks for the vid, there were a few things on this list that I hadn't heard of, but had read in the comics, and now I understand why they were in there. Peace & Love, Y'all !!!!
Dollhouse was actually a really good show
I would have loved a Giles’ origin story. I understand why they couldn’t do a live action because honestly, who could ever measure up to Anthony Head and play a younger Giles? but it’s weird to me how they never (as far as I know) considered the idea at least for a comic or something. I think it would have even more potential than a Willow spin-off. I remember the Giles craze at the time, at least in the teen and pre-teen female population of my corner of the world 😂
I would’ve watched the hell out of that Spike/Willow/Illyria movie
I really wish we had gotten that cartoon
Dollhouse is really good!!
Please explain my good man,i would like to know whats its about
@@fear32me it's about a shadowy organisation that erases your memory and implants new ones over and over again depending on the needs of the assignment.
That's sounds terrible, I know. How it's really well acted, perfectly paced and planed out. It has action, drama, intrigue, twists and turns to keep you hooked. And although it's only 2 seasons and has a very satisfying conclusion.
If you like Eliza Dushku (I think I'm spelling that wrong, I apologise) you'll live this.
@@richard1701able cool imma check it out,i remember FOX running ads for it back in the day,but the ad would never explain anything,it would just have her in a empty room staring off into nothing
@@fear32me to be fair, she does do a lot of that. However I don't think you're going to be disappointed.
Take some advice and be aware of the episode's order. NO SPOILERS! Part 1 of the 2 part final episode is sometimes put at the end of season 1. At least it was when I saw it on TV and got it on dvd.
@@richard1701able oh ok,thanks for the look out,imma start on the show tonight
Buffy & Angel are two of the best written shows I ever watched
For the Dawn thing in that animated series when she was created the idea was the monks had melded her into the timeline so that it was completely believable to Buffy and friends that she was Buffy’s sister. This means she was always in Buffy up to her introduction point. I believe they actually have a comic story where a flash back shows Dawn as a little kid. So having her in in the animated series would just be keeping with the altered cannon that Joss made.
"It's one of my all time favourite shows" Oh dope, Vee's got my taste.
"Which ended up spinning off into one of my favourite shows, Angel" THIS GLORIOUS LAD LIKES ANGEL? Literally my favourite show!
Dang I'm glad I found you
Hey, Vee, I have a video suggestion. You should do a video on the bizarre series production of and absolutely insane final season of Fox's "Til Death".
I love how After the Fall actually shows exactly what happened after the huge cliffhanger in the series finally. Still weird that they decided to end it like that. The Buffy comics follow up are great too and bat shit crazy. I’m planning to re-read them again as I haven’t caught up with the last few seasons yet. I hope they did a decent job wrapping up the series.
love buffy i will re watch it again and again
Seems like comics ended up being the obvious choice of media for Buffy, it was definitely a good fit for the series.
Especially with how often the original series references comic books.
All the people who are saying they don't want to read the comics, but want to see all these other ideas of cancelled BtVS project... ??????????
You should check out Dollhouse - the first season is rough, and I don't think Elizas character ever quite gelled, but it does get good
This is so weird like a month ago i went down a hole of looking into the spinoffs that never came
I just wish Angel, the original series, had continued on forever and ever. When I'd heard rumors of the show possibly rebooting, I kind of wanted to cry, because Andy Hallett can never return, and without Lorne, it could never be the same.
Are you kidding? I love Willow but Faith is totally my favorite slayer character. I would have loved to see her get her own show!
I’m trying to design a Buffyverse mobile game. I miss the series so much, this is what it has come to. I’m going to learn unity or find friends that can design games. Do something like Marvel Strike Force or Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes, where you collect shards of characters to level up and battle other teams, etc. then I’m gonna email Joss or Disney/Fox, whoever has the rights, these days, the Alpha version and beg him for the rights to do it. Hopefully, someone one who loves Buffy and designing video games reads this lol. I’ll find you one day, Firefly 😙🤌🏻
"Oh so we had to wrapped-up/cancel the show but here are the cartoon+20 gazillion different timelines of comics+the video game+toys+novels+spinoff+clothing line+Lego Buffy+pointy sticks dildos..."
*roll eyes*
Id love to see that cartoon made again today. Aet style is awesome. Was too young to catch Buffy but I've heard about it my entire life so it'd be a neat appetizer
I don’t want to live in a world where Eliza wasn’t Tru, but I would have absolutely love a Faith/Spike spin-off!!! Also Buffy the animated series and what could’ve come from that show hold a special place in my heart! And Kennedy...ugh...
Keep the Whedonverse videos coming please!
I can give Eliza Dushku major props for doing Tru Calling instead. I did watch that when it came out and it showcased her acting abilities as a different type of character. She was smart not to sign on as the Faith series.
I think the Buffy animated series was going to be like the 90’s Sabrina series; based off of the series but more aimed for younger audiences and with no continuity, every episode Is it’s own story. It’s a shame that didn’t get made the art style was so nice.
Kinda proud that I knew most of this!
Lmao the photo of “Giselle Lauren” is Gigi Gorgeous
I would have love to have seen a Faith splnoff
Looking back on Buffy season 7 I like it even more now. I always thought it succeeded thematically in being the perfect end, but compared to every final season of shows that have come and gone, it’s even masterpiece-ier.
So many shows falter in their final season, even on a thematic level. Buffy ended with her sticking it to the establishment like she always has, but on such bigger level. She rejected the shadowmen that created the slayer and shared her power with every potential. She and the show stayed true to what Buffy was always about and did it without stepping out of bounds. She changed the game and inspired an army. It was perfectly conceived and only just missed being perfectly executed by the smallest of margins. It did all that with 22 episodes a season, before tv grew up and figured itself out, and there is only one or two shows that have a finale as good as Buffy.
I guess I have to get me some comic books.
Looking forward to your opinion on Dollhouse. I loved the series and its potential - but was very disappointed it only lasted for two seasons and a graphic novel.
You better talk about Ripper, aka the show we all needed to see!
Also I didn't know that Angel (pronounced on-hell like its got the added dignity of a foreign accent$)
11:16 THATS GIGI GORGEOUS???
I've never seen that final season of Buffy since it first aired, I had completely forgotten about the slayers in training.
I would have liked to have seen the animated Buffy series. From the way the setup sounds, I think they would have viewed it as an alternate continuity, kind of the way the new BOOM! Studios comic is. You should give Dollhouse a watch. It takes a few episodes to really get into it, but once the lore gets laid out, it's really good.
I remember the talk of the Faith spin-off and I wanted it. Tru Calling was a paled in comparison so I didn't last after the pilot. I agree though, it probably would not have been successful for the reasons you stated. Years ago I was reading the post-show comics for both Angel and Buffy and loving them but I fell off so I have no idea what went on after a short while.