The Naked Eye Podcast #41: Myopia Is Mental with Mark Warren
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2020
- In this episode of The Naked Eye Podcast, Certified Bates Method Teacher, Nathan Oxenfeld interviews Mark Warren about his vision healing journey.
They discuss the similarities and differences between cameras and human eyes, the importance of our depth perception, the role of our peripheral vision, and lots more.
You can learn more about Mark Warren at myopiaismental.com/
You can learn more about Nathan at integraleyesight.com/
Go to vision2020movie.com to rent or purchase our documentary film about natural vision improvement!
You can listen to the previous episodes of The Naked Eye Podcast at integraleyesight.com/podcast
Thank you for listening!
Mark Warren is the real deal. He’s cracked the code. I listen to him entirely. Great guy!
Mark Warren THANK YOU for your attitude, your clear mind (and clear eyes), and your no-nonsense approach with vision. Yes, Myopia IS mental. So very many things are, without us knowing it.
So happy to see both of you together, been following you both for years
This is Great!
Many people working themselves out of their myopia!
You guys are awesome! Thanks so much for sharing your work!! Very inspiring for someone like myself who is starting on their own journey.
Thanks for watching!
Hello Nathan Hello Mark. I'm glad to see and hear you both in this podcast. I feel realy relaxed when l practice what you share about vision. Thank you both.
Yes! Relaxation is a sensation that we can tune into more and more, until it becomes our new baseline.
Mark - excellent work - and objective success!
Wow great guest I am inspired by Mark can't wait to listen to it
Thanks so much for watching!
Two awesome guys. Both great teachers of vision improvement.
Coming from a great student! :)
Two great Guys and two humble guys. Awesome! Thanks
:) :)
Great discussion and interesting points. Given me more motivation to help my eyes, even at 76 this month!!! Thank-you..
YES it's never too late to start taking better care of your eyes. I have several students in their 70s, 80s, and even one in her 90s!
I really appreciate what you guys do. Thank you!
Thanks so much for watching!
Love the comment Nathan made near the end about being so happy to read a road sign! Resonate a ton with that :-)
Yay! Here's to learning how to navigate through the world without depending on visual crutches, glasses, or contacts by achieving clearer vision naturally!
I’ve been following both of you for a while. It’s so nice seeing you guys do this online sharing together. Thanks!🥰
Me too!
Thanks for watching! This is a time for collaboration.
Did your eyesight improve? Please reply
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 for me it has.
I was wondering when this would happen! Both of you have helped me so much.
Wonderful gem!!! (Mark Warren shares exceptional baseline concepts and Nathan Exenfeld adds 'texture', supplements what's been shared)
Key references to distilled explanations for healing naturally:
13:00 mark (to 13:45): key paradigm Mark Warren follows (that is unexpected)
31:40 to 39:00 ("octopus" explanation...which kicks off discussion of key mindsets and practices that lead to major improvements
48:23 ...to 49:49 another reminder but a different level of explanation (about depth/richness of perception)
Great video/podcast Nathan and Mark!
Min 25:00. This is why improving your vision is worth it! The world becomes richer and more dimensional. Thank you both so much for these conversations. Very motivating and supportive for those on this journey.
Right!? It's not just the eyes, it's everything!
OMG OMG OMG I CAN BELIEVE A VIDEO OF BOTH OF UCGUYS IM SO EXCITED TO LISTEN TO THIS OMG BYE😁😁
WE APPRECIATE YOUR EXCITEMENT :)
Thank you for the Video!!!
Two Genius talking to each other. It is a music in ears and eyes feeling so joyful.
And a third genius who left this comment ;)
@@NathanOxenfeld 🙏 Namaskaram !!
Loved this! it was great!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dude, you're awesome!
Even though your guest had moderate myopia, yet the cure that he presented with seeing from the back of the head, motion and depth perception, noticing periphery vision, and so on, was very helpful and enlightening to me. Excellent observations and helps. Thanks a lot.
Awesome, I'm glad this conversation helped. Thanks for watching!
@@NathanOxenfeld Could I get in touch with you privately?
do you know where I can learn how to get rid of astigmatism? because I am really stuck, and this double vision/one clear and one ghostly image instead of blur is really exhausting
@@veritasaequitas2386 The good news about Astigmatism is that it is cured just as easily or as difficult as myopia, farsightedness, or other refractory errors of blurry vision. Relaxation is key; but applying it in the healing way is the challenge. Dr Bates had great success in curing Astigmatism.
@@Delsha777 in every book i read there is something about relaxation, but nothing precise. If you could be more precise about removing astigmatism - tibetan wheel, vertical/horizontal lines, swinging. I read Bates book, all his journals as well. Therefore I can say I have improved to some extent thanks to exercises/habits/stretching (depending on teacher Goodrich, Margaret etc), but I am stuck as vision is clearer than before, but I do have those ghostly images around letters or other objects and I cannot progress, it is also exhausting to see at this stage - consciously trying to get rid of that ghostly images. I am searching for info on someone who had pretty much the same thing or some book/teacher who knows how to heal people with stronger/medium astigmatism in both eyes (-2D). It would literally change my journey and my life. You know someone like that or some good source?
Excellent, informative discourse! Thank you Gentlemen for the great value you provide! God bless you both 👍💥🌹
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great work Nathan❤
Why thank you!
Thanks you two 🙏🙏
Thanks for watching!
Best podcast ever!
:) :)
my whole family tree has a perfect vision till 90 years old and beyond. suddenly my 6 years old daughter was minus 8 Myopic. she was spending endless hours a day on the phone or Tab screens. her vision deteriorated very rapidly.
we totally changed her lifestyle, no more screen time, all day outdoor. she went down to minus 6.
then I started to use binoculars and let her see remote objects. which I could see without binoculars.
eventually I was pointing to something very remote, which she couldn't see at all, and I could, I was describing it in detail. she was initially imagining it based on my detailed description.
one great day, I pointed to something very remote, and she started describing it in details. she broke free. she told me she now can see the world. I was in tears.
I know that eye problems are only related to the brain.
we also did a ball playing exercise, when we would throw or kick a ball towards our daughter. at first she was missing all the balls. now she just moves to the ball landing spot right when I throw it. she can see now.
the doctors cannot believe it, and they still are trying to tell me she cannot see. but she CAN
How long did it take to improve her vision
@@MrShardrain even after 1 month outdoors she started to see better. Now it's been 6 months and she can see even better. However she started using the tab and phone again and that has negative impact
@@TigerCarpenter that's brilliant, I hope she restores it fully. I've been doing this for around a week so it's great to hear that something like this is possible
@@MrShardrain it's possible if it's not a generic problem. Her eyes went bad from thousands of hours of screen time, and in that case reversing the damage is possible
What a podcast! These two great guys are helping so much to improve my eye sight. I don't know how to thank you more for all your work on this. In my youtube channel I try to spread your words too with my experience in which both of you play a role. Thanks!
Thank you so much for watching. Keep staying focused on your vision healing path!
Can u share how to do that my son haa glasses
Got good flashes today. THANKS NATHAN
Awesome! Keep up the good work and they'll keep showing up for you :)
How's it going
Wow! I did NOT expect this duo! 😂 Freaking awesome!
Rightt i saw warrens channel but nevera thought they would collaborate
It's all about collaboration!
Hey sir... "Namaste" lots of love from India 🇮🇳... I am following both of yours method from at least two months... I see Learning with Mark Warren's channel videos and of course Nathan sir your videos are also very helpful.... Really too glad to see you both together
Thanks for watching! Have a great day.
Sir, I am a student and have long hours of study.. Mostly at night. So, sir my question is that does it effects my eyesight.. If yes then what should I do please guide me sir.
🙏🙏🙏
Dharmendra bhai kese hoga batao hmko bhi.
Please explain me what they are saying
@@divyanshu5253 how's your eyes now 👀?? please reply
You two both have been my favorite so awesome you guys linked up. Interested in that conference you referenced and future ones.
We've got our next Association of Vision Educators Conference in the Fall of 2024! naturalvisionteachers.org/ and I'm working on organizing a Vision Retreat the first weekend of October 2024... stay tuned!
Great information. Thanks
Glad it helped!
Its a great talk to listen if you are in the journey of reversing myopia. And is a great inspiration for me who has to wear -5.00 dioptre glass to watch the video.
Yes, glad you enjoyed it! Have you experimented with any weaker prescription training glasses? Like -4.50 or -4.00?
@@NathanOxenfeld Currently I'm using my old -4.50 glasses and am watching your previous videos. I am bringing in the habits of caring my eyes, doing palming and relaxing my eyes.
Same, I always thought it was the eyeballs that did everything. Just a poor organ I had. This is sweet. Thank you both.
Vision is 9/10 mental and 1/10 physical!
@NathanOxenfeld that is amazing. I am going to learn this somehow😁
Thanks for the information.. Love from India :-)
Thanks for watching!
Did these exercises help you
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 yes!!! I could see my wall clock clearly. Due to covid I didn't visit an eye doctor to check exactly how much I have reduced.. But observing my surroundings I can definitely say my eye sight has improved .I watch sunset and sunrise without fail.. Do palming.. swinging.. and many things which Nathan has mentioned in channel.. I did see results within 1 month..
This is the first time I've listened to your videos and it 😮all sounds very intuitive and compelling. What are your views on eye exercises
I love you two, never heard of this podcast but this was awesome :D
Welcome! Glad to have you :)
Great interview! Sounds like I should hold off on lasik...
For sure, lasik is probably one of the worst things to do if you're truly wanting to heal your eyesight instead of fixing it temporarily
www.lasikcomplications.com
After cataract surgery, my eyes got bad and was going to have Lasik. A gut instinct stopped me. I am now trying the natural way, thanks to you two.
its lit!
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I wrote this on Mark Warren's Channel too.
The most dangeours bad habit that I found was *holding breathing*
This solve part of the puzzle, cos people with imperfect sight -- and people with other unhealthy condition -- have a lack of oxygen.
These breathtaking moments will lead to a change at nervous system level. Developing tension, anxiety.
This explains why myopia takes years to increase and become permanent its about developing bad breathing pattern habit.
Pay attention to yourself today, when youre reading, when yourr typing, when youre wearing your clothes/shoes, watching something , etc.
Pay attention to people who wear glasses, most of the time they are holding their breathing. You see, they look like a dead body reading/watching something.
Lack of oxygen, people are anxiety due to stop breathing to use their cognitive skills.
Lack of oxygen leads to digestive issues, bad posture, headache, lips sores, stomach diseases, asthma, most of disease on upper body, etc.
DO NOT HOLD YOUR BREATH, NEVER, EVEN IF IT IS AN IMPORTANT MOMENT OR TASK.
This little improvement will make all the difference to ours vision.
People reading this, Nathan has a outstanding video about diaphragmatic breathing, we need to trynna incorporate it in our daily life.
Thanks for sharing your insights!
Thank you for commenting this. I noticed I tend to do it often, very often.
You two gentlemen have been a huge help to helping me understand these concepts. I started out with Bates method and experienced some flashes of clarity and some big improvement, but ended up stopping due to my work environment. Recently, I’ve decided to pick up where I left off and really excited and committed to correcting my seeing habits.
Is there a path to becoming a bates method coach? I feel this is important to be shared with so many people that are trapped in this money trap. I’m seriously considering obtaining what I need to be official. Any guidance here?
Thanks!
-Jake
Omg Jacob Liberman talked about this!! I didn’t get it, but I am starting to now!!
Sometimes we need to hear things multiple times from multiple people in multiple ways before it truly "clicks".
Nathan can you please elaborate on how to rewire the habit of thinking that vision is in back of eyes and not in the front and to how to relax that part. Being a highly myopic -6.5 in both of eyes. I tried it few times intentionally and its super relaxing.
Great question! For me, it's both physical and mental. It works best for me when I actually adjust my posture such that my head is more aligned over my spine, to make sure I'm not slouching or jutting my chin forward (which is usually what myopes do in order to "get closer"). So I'm literally sitting back and relaxing in my chair, which helps my mind sink back to a place further behind my eyes, usually to my visual cortex. Since the swinging habit is so helpful, I tend to keep some sort of "pendulum swing" going on in my mind, whether it's Dr. Bates' swinging black period or some variation of it. One of my colleagues Rosemary Gordon talks about "seeing from the core", which seemed to help me connect more with my center or my spine in order to see, rather than it feeling concentrated to just the front of my face or just my eyeballs. Hope that helps!
First of all thank you so much for your reply. So as high as myopic as me, first i need to correct the posture which you talked about, then what habits to incorporate while i wear my specks everyday and what core mental shifts i need to understand as now as you said when i remove the glasses i go completely blur its hard for me to do central fixation, as i guess i strain more instead
Tour podcast is great. I just wonder if you hace any advice con how to deal with more than INE problem at once. I have miopía, cataracts and astigmatismo.
The Bates Method can help with all three, so by practicing things like Swinging, Sunning, Palming, etc. you are targeting all three vision problems at the same time.
Can anyone write the summary?
I can't understand this video
Woww!
Yay!
Hello ma'am kya aap abhi bhi active he RUclips PR meko aapse help chahiye
I have myopia, astigmatism, and now, Central Serous Retinopathy.. its frustrating..
Is it possible to improve while wearing contacts for few hours of the day or should I drop cold turkey? My job requires me to drive my car around, have 8 d 1.25 cyl so while it's technically possible it's risky. Maybe glasses are better for this on off? Been considering buying glasses that are 6.75 d to let my eyes adjust in a passively beneficial way while I do these techniques and relaxations.
My first step was to switch from contacts back to glasses, so I could take them off more frequently throughout the day when possible.
I keep getting headaches as I do the techniques. It’s day 3 of going without my glasses and I noticed slight improvement, I think I had a clear flash. I had been doing the techniques non stop.
I’m not sure if the headaches are normal though..
Please be mindful about "quitting cold turkey". Most of my students prefer the "weaning off" approach, where you still use your glasses as needed while you are in the process of improving your vision naturally. This usually involves stepping down the strength of your glasses ie "training glasses".
I did get headaches at first, and would feel relief when I put my glasses back on. After a week or two though, that reversed. I would start to get headaches if I left my glasses on too long, and would feel relief when I took them off. So I think you're on the right track, but just make sure you're prioritizing relaxation and feeling comfortable.
I want you to listen to Article 2 from the January 1922 Better Eyesight called "Be Comfortable" - www.bettereyesightpodcast.com/home/january1922
You can achieve that clarity with those special glasses that have tiny pinholes that you peer through. I bought a pair decades ago and it works. I can watch TV as long as I keep my head still and it gives you a small patch where it’s clear. The eye is probably relaxed because there’s no focusing with these glasses
Those are called pinhole glasses, and yes they can act as an alternative way to see clearly without using prescription glasses/contacts. However, I don't want you to end up staring. Maybe try allowing your head to move gently as you watch TV with pinhole glasses so you move your point of clear central fixation around to different parts of the screen.
does anyone here knows about nee book of easther vanderwerf? how is is and anyone has the pdf? who wanna share it cause I cant afford it right now
hello, does anyone know where I can learn how to get rid of astigmatism? Mark actually had surprisingly low astigmatism, and only in one eye, which makes it much more easy to improve. I would really appreciate a good source, because I am really stuck, and this double vision/one clear and one ghostly image instead of blur is really exhausting
Same to you. Do you find any solution please reply
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I told the doctor that I haven't worn glasses for a year. He said that this is not good for my eyes and that I can wear glasses and that these exercises will improve your eyes. After a year I notice an improvement. Then she gave me an eye chart and I saw almost everything. Then she told me to go to the vision apparatus and that it got worse from -3.25 to -6. I was slightly confused and then asked how this was possible, since I saw almost everything on the eye chart. I then went to another doctor and he put me on a vision aid and told me it had deteriorated to -4. This is very strange. They are all bullshit money suckers
Thanks Mark & Nathan found that I went from (astigmatism) : Left - 3.75 to 2.75 Right from 2.25 to 1.75. It is necessary to persevere. A lot of people laugh at me saying it's not possible. However, it is possible!
I'm so happy for u 😍 but how did u did that? Focusing on objects? My doctor told me that i have astigmatism 2.70 right 2.30 and if i didn't wear glasses my astigmatism it's going to be worse
I have -3.5 on my left eye and -5.25 on my right eye, and I’m at the point where my vision frustrates me to the point of crying. Hopefully, if I look around and try these natural relaxation methods out my vision can get better, but the numbers do feel a little hopeless and far away from 20/20
Hand-eye coordination exercises, equilibrium table, Nintendo Wii/Kinect/VR videogames, red-cyan-green glasses and stereopsis, mini trampoline.
"Brock String" is the easier tool to start this process of balancing eyesight. Its cheaper, its a DIY tool.
I guess you have monovision/monocular/2D vision. Would be better practice balance exercises at first in order to accelerate the whole process.
Becomes easier when we active more Stereo/3D/Binocular vision.
Be curious is The "secret" to keep trying improve your eyesight. When we search for new approaches we keep improving our lives.
The Brock String is helping me to become more relaxed, I feel both brain hemisphere working together. My body coordination its very soft after 3 minutes of practice. I feel my mood changing while my eyes are working together. My thoughts are easy.
Try it, start with one bead, see with both eyes two strings while aiming the bead, if you can't see two strings, try to blink one eye rapidly, breathe. Keep trying and you will be able to relax.
@@CyBORGBOY11 bro keep posting your eye prescription updates, I want to give Brock String a shot
@Lei da Atração really little progress, because I kinda half-assing this eye principles and habits, and my job is in a computer all day, and really I lack discipline, I believe I will be having clearer vision in the future, if I just put into practice all Mark's teachings
@Lei da Atração yep, I agree, I always am thinking of a career change.
My bois
I will try to improve my eyesight and update you on my progress.
Today is October 19, 2020.
Here is my prescription from August 7, 2020
Right eye: -11.50 (5° -1.00)
Left eye: -11.25 (170° -1.00)
😱😱this is a very high prescription bro. Hope you will make to 20/20.
Update?
*just do it*
A Gold tip:
_Record yourself with your smartphone camera, make a video of yourself walking.. Put your cellphone on a window recording yourself walking_
And with this material you'll train your new walking style.
Move all the strain of your head, jaw, eyes, neck, shoulders and move to your low back, to your pelvis.
You'll need to find a NEW comfortable way to walk. I know, you think you already walk in a comfortable way, but if your vision is blurry you are not walking in a comfortable way.
Blurry vision is just a body signal.
Nathan is always saying this all the time but nobodyis listening.
Put the strain in the original place.
When Babies learn to walk, they need to put the strain at the area.
Your daily newehabit is remove the strain from the upper body and put at the lower body.
The second step is: *trust in your body*
Relax your face, concentrating all your awareness on low back, back, pelvis, legs, feet. Shift the way you used to step on the ground.
Let your sight blurry, you dont need to make your vision sharpen with your own eyes. Just relax all your face, put all the attention on your body, moving your strain to the correct part of your body (low back, spine, abdomen).
If you wanna do Big jumps, you should start by correcting your body posture. As I said before, train this all the time and you'll be surprised.
And always respect your body needs.
Never neglect what you are feeling from your body. If its hurting, stop it whatever you are doing and pay respect to your own body.
You are not only your thoughts, you are more than your head.
You can check Arianma Piva story.
She worn -11D for years. Now she does not wear glasses.
Hi Nathan, When eyes are relaxed do they start to do involuntary saccadic movements? Because when my eyes are relaxed they make some weird shaking movements and when I moving my head or blink I can see clearly. If I do nothing when they are relaxed I can't see nothing.
Yes, when your eyes are relaxed they shift more (saccade). People with blurry vision usually have less saccadic eye movements, and people with better vision usually have more saccadic eye movements. So let your eyes do that weird shaking feeling, especially if it leads to sharper vision!
How are your eyes doing?
@@NathanOxenfeld I feel the same. Some weird movements sometimes I feel like I can't focus on one thing for too long. Should I lay off on the practices until this feels normal.? I am a little concerned and I can feel it stresses me. It doesn't feel like it helps me see better. It just feels like my eyes have their own mind moving on their own. Does this happen throughout the whole process or is it just at the beginning because it's so new to you that you notice it?
@@lauramarthe1397 It was my eyelids, twitching.
@@CyBORGBOY11 Ya I feel strange twitching internally and externally. Externally though might just be me stressing about the internal eye movements
I just started the Bates method 2 days before and my eyes are paining ; is this also a part or a problem for me ??
It depends on if you are straining or relaxing. If you take your glasses off and strain, you will feel pain and discomfort. If you take your glasses off and relax, you should not feel pain or discomfort. Make sure you're not squinting, staring, straining, etc. That being said, sometimes when we first begin this process, we start becoming aware of how much eye strain we have had for a long time, and we notice it more. Whereas before you may have been unconscious of it, or kind of numb to the pain that you carry around in your eyes. Now that you're aware of it, you can begin releasing it and replacing it with relaxation.
How's your eyes now 👀
Do you cover floaters? 🤗 They're driving me crazy 🤪
I don't have a video on floaters yet, but I am teaching a class on them this month, so I may be able to share some of that here on RUclips... stay tuned!
@@NathanOxenfeld ok. Thank you Nathan. Much appreciated 💚
When squinting why does that slightly improve sight?
When you squint you are straining your eye muscles to manipulate the shape of the eye and narrow the eyelids to affect the optics of how the light refracts into your eyes, sometimes giving you temporarily clearer vision... however, right when you release the tension, the blur returns, proving that this is not a sustainable option. Not only that, but Dr. Bates taught that strain is actually one of the main underlying root causes of vision problems, so chronic squinting can lead to worse vision in the future. It is a bad habit that needs to be replaced with a better, more sustainable vision habit: dynamic relaxation. Dynamically relaxed eyes are blinking, moving, relaxing, and focusing easily, without tension, effort, or strain. Although relaxing your eyes does not always yield immediate clarity, with practice eventually it becomes the new way you see all the time, establishing a new baseline of normal vision. Start becoming self-aware of your staring and squinting habits multiple times a day. These are deeply embedded habits, so be patient with yourself, and don't beat yourself up if you do squint by accident. Just close, breathe, and start over. Good luck!
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Hey can it work even if ihave problem to near things like seeing on phone,reading and also far in the distance.Ihave both -- and + problems.
Yes, the Bates Method can help with all types of refractive errors, including nearsightedness and farsightedness.
@@NathanOxenfeld Thankyou
Please please respond to this comment, is it possible to do this for someone with +15.50 in each eye?????
Greetings ... my clear flashes are getting longer and clearer by increasing eye rolls through out the day ( I do palming sunning and eye stretches)
Do you mean intentional eye rolls or people annoy you so much you roll your eyes on a regular basis? Kinda joking but kinda not....
Alright! Soon the clarity will become your baseline, and you'll start having "blur flashes" instead of "clear flashes".
@@NathanOxenfeld wow that will be amazing...I'm 2 months in total of no glasses and eye relaxation techniques....I put my glasses on for a second a day ago and everything looked 20 times crisper and sharper than when I was wearing them all the time lol
I think I'm going to increase the bates method to 2 hours a day ( 20 palming 20 minutes swinging and 20 minutes rocking ) 1st thing in the morning and the last thing before I sleep ... also does the bates method reshape the eye back to normal ???
@@geostan9560 any success so far? been trying a bunch of stuff but it doesnt seem to work very well
Do you see eye floaters? If yes then how did you overcome with that?
Yes, I see floaters from time to time. They're not as bad as they used to be. The more I improved my vision naturally, the less I saw the floaters. The brain has an amazing ability to tune things out... for example, your blind spots. Where your optic nerve enters your retina, there are no rods or cones, so it should appear like a black spot in your vision, but your brain is able to fill it in so you don't see it. Something similar can happen with the floaters too. But, also doing lots of swinging, sunning, and palming, and eating a clean, healthy diet and drinking lots of water can help decrease the floaters sometimes too.
After 2 months of research and using different techniques I still cant achieve a clear flash. Can someone tell me what did they do to achieve one?
@Lei da Atração Im -5.5 in both eyes, i spend about 2hrs outside a day and 4-5 hrs in front of monitors because of school work
Mark explains how to do this in his free basic course available through his website.
I also been following this for some time and not able to get clear flashes
I had a clear flash on accident before i was aware of any of this information, i was concentrating on a candle flame with the intetion of building single minded focus ability, I just so happened to have my contacts off, second time i did it about 15 min in or so my vision auto corrected everything was clear, it suprised me alot and snapped out of it vision went back to normal, I've yet to recreate this but I've started trying again maybe two weeks ago, but all i was doing was looking at the flame keeping my awareness there and when i started thinking about something I would gently bring my focus back and it just happened naturally, given that it most likey is relaxation as they are both saying here.
My wing chun teacher would always tell me to relax all the time, even when i was at what i thought was my most relaxed! He could percieve tension in my body that i could not, he was right, sometimes we are tense and don't even realize it even at our most relaxed, i believe this is what's causing it, unseen/unfelt tension in the eye/brain.
Hear me out friends stop staying inside get a lot of darkness and lot of sunshine
Yes, get outside into some fresh air and full spectrum sunlight!
Have anyone had success with marks amazing methods??!?
Hi, Nathan, What a nice video of information. I have a question : When I soften the gaze, I see blurry because I have a lazy eye. And I use to give me a hard time for it, that I needed to focus to see clearly. So what you are saying is that it is OK ? And I can focus and seeing shapes, colors and distances ? (You said we don't need to see clearly all the time)
The conversation is getting to be redundant...always be courageous and go direct to the point gentleman 😊
My number is 3.25 on left and 2.5 on right. Is it too late for me to start now. How to fix my difference in eyes.
No it's not too late... I was around -4.00 in both eyes when I started and now I don't need any prescription glasses. You could consider implementing eye patches or other forms of isolating one eye at a time to work on balancing out the difference between your two eyes.
Ok thank you so so much 😀
Have you tried the endmyopia?
So what is myopia for kids what make difference the the regular
I recommend you listen to any August episode of The Better Eyesight Podcast, which is specifically devoted to preventing and reversing myopia in school children - bettereyesightpodcast.com/
I have retinitis pigmentpsa
Would like to know simple things to start off with to see if it'll help with my chronic eye disease
Much love from Hawaii
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@@808_babyj lol did u get my address?
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hii sir, i want to strt this method. my glasses power is( -6 and -7 ) i really dont want to wear glasses how i can strt this method help he plzzzzz and reply me. thanks....
If I were you I would start experimenting with weaker prescription training glasses, like -5 and -6, and begin a daily routine of relaxation practices from the Bates Method of natural vision improvement.
Did these exercises help you
My 5 years old daughter has myopia... right eye 2.75 and left eye 2.25.... I want to cure her naturally... please help me 🙏
I'm going to copy and paste a comment left under my interview with Dr. Sam Berne from someone who has seen improvements in their daughter's vision:
"I did exactly what u said with my daughter since past 4mnths nw.. relaxation n letting go the bad habits n postures n all the practices that u always say in ur videos.. my daughter eyes was left eye -2.25 n ryt eye -0.50.. n now right eye is plain..no number n left eye -1.50... thank you sooooo much.."
Matt,
How can one practice seeing in depth,if we see everything at once the same time like a mirror....a two dimensional phenomenon..its this fact that's quite unusual to me..
Some thing else must be discovered in restoring eyesight.....
Some part id still missing
You are right.
Its not about see everything, its see few thinhs. The eye can't see everything clearly, to make this sensation human eye do 2 or 3 of saccade movements per second, cause retina only is able to receive few light flashes. So the eye must be moving all the time to create a whole clearly picture. Myopic person stare too much, the retina can't keep the image more than 2 or 3 seconds if you keep so blur happens.
@@CyBORGBOY11 very interesting information.
Thanks for the comment.
But its still confusing..... regarding what i said above.
I m not getting relevant answer...
It requires the use of your imagination. If you're looking at a mirror or a screen, it's not actually 3D... it's 2D... but you can imagine that it is 3D. Try this... imagine that the word BIG is popping out of the screen towards you... imagine it's closer to you than the rest of the words on the screen. Then, imagine that the word (small) is sinking into the screen away from you... imagine it's farther away from you than the rest of the words on the screen. Physically, all the words are on the same plane, but mentally you can imagine depth where there is no depth. Just requires a little bit of imagination!
@@NathanOxenfeld thanks Nathan...
Very nice suggestion.
I will look forward to it.
And i am doing a thing which doesn't require any of Matt's or your practice.
If it really works it will be the shortest way.
Time will tell.
Hey Nathan, i have recently started bates method and i just love your videos .can you please suggest me what prescription i should start with..i have -5.75 left and -5.5 right glasses now..please reply ..
Thanks..
If those were my numbers, I might start with a pair of -5.25 and -5.00 glasses for my first pair, and then try -4.00 and -4.00 for my second pair.
@@NathanOxenfeld okay thank you so much.
@@ayushidaga8894 did u improve your vision? Pls replyyy
@@NathanOxenfeld Nathan i also have cylinder of -1.in right eye and -0.50 in left eye..how much i should reduce it? Please reply..
Thanks
Anyone know anything on improvement of macular degeneration?
Yes, I like to call it "macular regeneration" when you start to implement the Bates Method specifically for your retinal health. I have worked with students dealing with both dry and wet AMD, all of whom have experienced benefits. One of them was even getting monthly injections inside his eye to stop the bleeding. He started working with me and learning natural vision improvement. He went back in for his monthly injection, but the eye doctor said he could not find any bleeding, so the injections were no longer necessary. One of the first things I suggest to people wanting to prevent or reduce AMD is to start supplementing with saffron - persavita.com/
@@NathanOxenfeld thanks for the reply!!!
How to get rid of astigmatism
If I were you, I would probably experiment with training glasses that just have the myopia correction (sphere) but don't have any astigmatism correction (cylinder or axis). That, combined with regular practice of the Bates Method, can potentially begin to reduce the astigmatism.
20 /20 or 20/40 in sph glasese without cydrical power?
@@NathanOxenfeld please reply...I ve 2.5 sph and 2 cydrical.......only sph 2.5 ca n I use
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This is the confusing part. I also experienced unbelievable improvements in my sight and when I rushed to the eye doctor they told me my vision hadn't improved. In fact the correction had increased. I was flabbergasted. Vision is more than numbers. More than correction. My current prescription glasses are too strong and burn my eyes and soul. Yet the optometrist wants to increase on them. Don't listen to these people. They are dumber than us who downloaded a book on Google.
Just like the pharmacuetical industry doesn't truly want you to be healthy, or they couldn't make money, the "vision correction" industry doesn't want your vision to improve, it's not a conspiracy...it's just "good business", the business of greed. It's nothing personal as they say... evil does exist, an illusion, a facade or distortion, sure, maybe it ultimately doesn't exist, but relatively in this world, very very selfish people do exist, and don't care about others, they're willing to let them suffer just to live richly.
@Lesego Madisa I know same! I swear, my eyesight got better and then my prescription went from -3 to -6 ughhhh
@@tingting5268 the same here....The doctor tells me it got worse from -3.75 to -6, but I can see abnormally better. I saw almost everything on the eye chart. Otherwise, it's still not what I want, but it's slowly getting there.
Anybody who has reduced their prescription numbers naturally I'm going to listen to.
Yes, personal experience is absolutely key.
This is the confusing part. I also experienced unbelievable improvements in my sight and when I rushed to the eye doctor they told me my vision hadn't improved. In fact the correction had increased. I was flabbergasted. Vision is more than numbers. More than correction. My current prescription glasses are too strong and burn my eyes and soul. Yet the optometrist wants to increase on them. Don't listen to these people. They are dumber than us who downloaded a book on Google.
Doctors follow ready-made formulas, many of them force theory over reality.
Nobody likes to be evaluated, either physically or on school tests. The nervousness of the evaluation interferes with the result.
Another important point, the doctors' equipment was manufactured to validate the theory they follow.
The strangest thing is that the test is done in a static, tiring way (which alters the human perception of reality) as if the human being were going to live life paralyzed in a dark room with a 19th century lamp, distinguishing small letters on paper.
Ophthalmologist tests do not usually include eye fusion, they are tests based on defining symbols in a completely artificial way, prepared to find any error mainly with the aid of mirrors to extend the distance from the office (mirrors can create the Truxler effect).
The best exam to do would be the DMV exam, normally this exam doesn't have such a tiresome battery of tests that induce the error.
Ophthalmologists often believe that the eyeball is static, the way in which the assessment is done favors the theory (person still, sitting, immobile).
Neuroscience explains the correlation between eye and body, or better body and mind (brain/eyes). Only bad professionals don't know these things.
In fact, Western medicine is weird, it segments the human body into details that never touch itself. Creating misdiagnoses.
They will only say that diopters have decreased when the process called sarcopenia comes into play, removing a certain amount of muscles that make up the ocular system (neck, shoulder, trapezius), when these muscles decrease in tone or change the way they are probably arranged. eyeballs will change shape too, so when you're paralyzed in the office chair, the doctor will notice that your eyeball is getting different, smaller. But they will keep saying that there is also myopia to a lesser degree.
I also don't believe in this area of medicine called ophthalmology. Many are ignorant people who are afraid to challenge their superiors and the old theories.
Jacob explains this effect of "nothing changed"
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@@CyBORGBOY11 You're totally correct. In fact one optometrist preferred increasing my prescription to maximum correction just so everything is Flipping too bright in the dark. How the hell does one make an instrument that evaluates eyesight that makes you sit down while doing so? And the test is about letters. Come to think of it this is dangerous and very stupid. Ignorant. When you get your glasses you're no longer reading letters on a wall but interacting with reality on a daily basis. Perception has changed. They are nothing but administrators.
Great response! Wonderful exposure of the fallacies of the traditional outdated eye exam. Dr. Bates skillfully learned how to use his retinoscope at a distance greater than 5 feet, because he knew that if he invaded the space of his patient too much, he influenced the outcome of their exam. He also studied people's eyes outdoors in natural sunlight, while standing, moving, talking, playing, etc. as opposed to sitting motionless in a cramped dark room. More recently, there was also a push to start using "moving eye charts" with rotating symbols rather than static symbols, which is more in line with how the eye naturally focuses in motion rather than by staring.
Jacob's story of seeing perfectly clearly, yet still testing as having "myopic eyeballs" has always been a great source of inspiration and relief for me. If you are also a fan of his work, you may enjoy the new Episode 56 where I get to speak with him on my show - ruclips.net/video/EqhRW4q03z0/видео.html