Top 4 Mechs for a New Player in Mechwarrior Online
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2021
- This is a top four mechs for a new player coming into Mechwarrior Online! These were chosen by very experienced players, with the current game state in mind.
Wolfhound: mech.nav-alpha.com/#32fbf514_...
Vulcan build: mech.nav-alpha.com/#dc1d834e_...
Vapor Eagle ERPPC: mech.nav-alpha.com/#2a0287f7_...
Vapor Eagle ATM: mech.nav-alpha.com/#7b3cc23c_...
Madcat MKII-B: mech.nav-alpha.com/#7d4e2d40_...
Twitch: / ngngtv
Patreon: / nogutsnogalaxy
Merchandise: no-guts-no-galaxy.myshopify.com/
Discord: / discord
Twitter: / nogutsnogalaxy
Facebook: / nogutsnogalaxypodcast
Soundcloud: / nogutsnogalaxy
Amazon Affiliate Link: amzn.to/2UQeeWG
Wishlist: tinyurl.com/y2xdfob4 
Игры
Can't go wrong with a Hellbringer, can get it with the cadet bonus straight away can do many builds and Omi's are a hell of alot cheaper than battlmechs.
I’d avoid putting newbs in assaults as they tend to get primaried, are too slow to compensate for position planning mistakes, and their tonnage is wasted on someone who isn’t properly using it.
Exactly. To slow to correct when making a positional error and too juicy a target when spotted.
On the other hand, dont put newbs in light mechs either. There have a very high skill floor before you are effective in them and don't get annihilated in one volley. You gotta learn the flow of the game before jumping in a light.
totally
I would say stay away from mediums as a new player; they are either too slow or don’t carry enough weapons. I would rather play a light or heavy instead but do agree that new people should stay away from lights until they learn the game. Stick to heavy and some of the faster assaults as a new player.
Newbies shouldn't use heavy mechs because those have the best power and speed balance and should only be played by veterans.
I perversely stuck to mechs that I found hard to pilot effectively, and with limited weapons choices. When I first started I tried an assault and found that my lack of skill was too much of a liability to the team: I was wasting my tonnage. Eventually I settled on mastering the Commando and learned positioning and vertical mobility with a stealth Phoenix Hawk (with either a PPC or light gauss). Ultimately I found that I greatly enjoyed piloting rather than soaking damage and pretty much stuck with lights and mediums. I think new players should find a mech they like and stick with it while they're learning the game, but then I've never been one for min-maxing.
Commando was my first choice as well. Nothing as great a feeling as taking out an assault or Heavy with a light Mech.
If you're feeling perverse, I have a suggestion I want to share: ASN-27, MRM30+10, 4 tons ammo, 1 JJ, ECM. XL265. All crit slots and tonnage used.
It's low heat and low damage so you take ALL the cooldown nodes and skip as many heat nodes as you can. Ignore structure, instead max speed tweak and almost all of kinetic burst + hand brake. Strikes and UAVs (again, ignoring heat management).
Don't think of it as an assassin. Think of it as a Cicada with 300-450m weapons and ECM. But also 1 jj.
I got an 800 damage game and 6 kills with it once, and I'm not even that great :D
Mediums and lights are where it’s at. After all, “low tier is fun tier.”
Personally I agree with three of the four, but I'm in the camp that a new player shouldn't jump right into an assault mech. It's not that the Madcat and Blood Asp aren't really good mechs (they are), it's that they aren't as forgiving of positioning mistakes and I'm assuming a new player is going to make some mistakes. I'd give the final spot to the Hellbringer Laservomit build and suggest the Madcat or Blood Asp as a best second mech to a heavy mech pilot who after learning the map designs and battle flow wants to venture into assaults for more presence and firepower on the battlefield.
I think a minimum mech speed of 81kph will help new players recover from their inevitable positioning mistakes and allow them to stay alive longer to learn more in a shorter amount of time.
Another alternative, considering they were recommending ballistic assaults, would be to recommend a heavy that can do similar. A lot of new players will struggle to properly play an energy mech with all that heat management. But a UAC heavy mech can have mobility, armor, and steady heat minimal DPS.
@@ShimmeringSword Yes, good point. I didn't mention a ballistic heavy because most of my ballistic heavies are inner sphere mechs that I think I would have struggled in had I started out with them. I'd encourage the route I took of leaning heavily on the medium mech class (and not being afraid of running away from a fight when outgunned) until the player becomes more confident of what he or she can and can't do on the battlefield, then chooses either heavier or lighter mechs to hide flaws or enhance parts of the game in which they excel. The Vulcans and Vapor Eagles are great starting mechs that are very versatile.
100% agree about the Hellbringer Laservomit with ECM. I originally played MWO in 2013, rocking the Jenner, particularly fond of the JR7-F. When I returned to MWO 5 years later, the Jenner no longer a competitive mech. Based on a video from BlackHawkSC, I tried the Hellbringer. That was a solid choice.
I'd generally agree but at 64.8 KPH the Blood Asp has the capability to relocate reasonably. In terms of the NASCAR tactics used so frequently that extra speed is noticeable.
I need to try the Blood Asp. When I was a Free To Play peasant, I stuck to one mech for a long time.
Hi Phil! After putting a couple thousand hours into MWO I took a long break from it, but I'm trying to get back into the game. Watching your latest videos is helping with that! I miss watching your content.
I see what you’re doing here. You just want more medium pilots on the battlefield!
The 7 IS Medium Javelin (forget the variant) is also super good imo, easy to play, has a shield arm and side to practice, fast, thin, low profile, good burst and sustain, has arm unlocked lasers for practicing UAV killing, point and shoot gameplay, very good mech to learn to play
Maybe am I wrong but the javelin is a light mech and you wanna mean the Assassin?
@@chofa135 He means 7 medium lasers
@@3dog100 ahhhh u right thanks!
Potato plays mwo? Holy civ, Im in
Javelin is a Light Mech, the Javelin 11A is the 7 Med Laser variant, which is ok... The 11F is better imo.
I know it’s a the hero version of the Wolfhound but the Grinner adds ECM and is a BEAST
What I started with:
Bushwacker X1, Annihilator 2A, Catapult A1 and the Urbanmech with the MRMs
Murbie or Missile Urbie is a good choice... All Urbies are...
@@steelshanks1265 Yeah, Urbies are my favourite light mech , along with the KitFox.
Side note: did you just upvote your own comment?
@@BrokenCurtain Hell yeah I did... It's good work. Lol.
I'm downloading this game right now and wanted to see what mechs I should go for early on. I honestly had no idea this game was so complex, I literally didn't understand 90% of this...
Do you understand now?
Really nice review. I would suggest as a follow-up on this video to also show the skill trees for the given mechs and which skillpoints take first.
Despite being very good choices, I tend to gravitate my recomendations for new players towards mechs that are not on top of the meta. Mad cats mk II, Blood Asps and Veagles tend to be called by players as primary targets as quick as they see them. Also, there is the part where players may not know what they want to play and your first mech should provide some versatility, kind of like try what you like before moving on. For that reason I recommend Sun Spiders, those have high mounts, ECM, and can do direct fire or missiles very efficiently, those are good lurmers, good atm carriers, good ballistic and good ppc boats with ecm, all in one single mech. Also, they tend to draw less attention from the enemy.
My recommendation would be a Crab. They can splash damage so easily and they're so tough that nobody targets crabs first (as long as you try to make your legs a hard target), meanwhile they dish out so much laser damage.
That's true, but remember that new players will play with other new players that probably don't know how to communicate yet.
@@fiendishrabbit8259 Ah, I knew someone else was Cultured. Knew nothing about Battletech but I played a ttrpg where the first mech I took out was a Crab. Since then, I've loved the damn thing; imagine my surprise when I hopped into MWO and found out it was there, and one of the best brawlers in the game!
Zombie Crab will always have a place in my heart.
Bushwacker is really good startermech. Good Armor, many options with a good amount of firepower. For heavys Marauder, warhammer and Hellbringer are quit easy to learn and also with alot of options to test different playstyles. Mediums and heavys are in my opinion the best classes to start.
Hey there Phil,
I was guessing 3 out of 4 correctly but instead if the vulcan i was guessing the hellbringer.
This video is honestly the best mwo video out there in my oppinion. Good Job!
I hope people find there way in here before they spend their cbills on Baradul builds...
Cheers BamBomBang
Agree with you on every mech. Think I'd choose the Blood Asp for the ECM. I might also go with the Hellbringer... Once again because of the ECM. You can afford to be a little slower if you have a little ECM help. Good video man, keep up the good work.
Would be a lot more interesting if you showed off gameplay for each mech and a good starting build
When I started years ago, I picked the Jenner and Shadowhawk to start. This was back during the initial mastery/skill system that required you to master 3 variants of a chassis so I had a JR7-F, D, and K, and the SHD-2H, 2D2, and 2K. Due to the build variety of these mechs (having both energy, missile, and ballistic variants), it allowed me to realize that I LOVE dakka mechs, high mounts, and simple one/two-button builds.
If I was to recommend just one chassis that can cover these multiple builds, it'd be the Warhammer. The only thing that it really doesn't cover well is missile boating, which honestly I think is a bit less forgiving anyways outside of boating ATMs/LRMs, which the VGL-3 can do. MRM can be done with the Catapult/Wolverine/Archer but the Cat/Archer have obvious weakpoints, and the Wolverine mounts are left-sided which is a detriment to an inevitable NASCAR. I haven't played Streak boats in forever so I can't give an opinion on that.
Surprised to see no one recommending the Linebacker-H 6MPL build. Fast, one button to fire, decently survivable, shield arms to encourage twisting, lasers are hitscan, decent mounts, and then you have omnipods to experiment with later if you want to. Very simple and effective build. Hellbringers are great as well, as others have said.
Just started playing and the linebacker is my favorite so far
My recommendation for newbies. Was Blood Asp A, as it may be a big investment. But it gives you a large machine, with good high hardpoints for peeking. As well as as a being an omni mech offering vesitility.
JJs, for clifs, and CT ecm, for anti missile. Old school ran it as a quad ppc in the left torso, machingun(no ammo) right (to make a fake hardpoint so no one know which side is armed.) and all the heatsinks.
Rapid Fire ppcs are Rude. 2 flamer mechs overheated while trying to melt this fridge on legs, and died of point blank PPC hate.
It can be energy or AC boat, noting its versatility. Meening whatever updates come.. its covered.
Been playing MWO for 9 years. I think the best new mech for a newb is a medium. I started on the Blackjack. There are several variants but they have high mounted weapons, can take jump jets, and have decent hit boxes. I still play one with an AC20 and two medium lasers. I now play lights (Flea and Locust) and mediums (Assassin, Blackjack and Viper). Lot more fun stalking lone missile boats than head to head slugfests... all my mechs are custom builds. I tune them as I go. After all these years, weapons, MC and money are not an issue so I swap out weapons and other equipment until I find something I like.
Shadowhawk SHD-2D2 with an LBX10 and 3 SRM 4's is a great time, you got some jumpjets, high ballistic hardpoint, good brawling profile, and only two weapon groups to worry about
Alternative picks:
1: Firestarter over wolfhound. Since the patches, performs better, has jumpjets, and has more flexible build options. A/K or even H.
2: Bushwhacker. Great hitboxes, brawls, mid range, Decent speed and convergence. Very flexible hardpoint and build combos.
3. Crab. specifically the 27B, 27SL (for jump jet maneuvering), or 27 for AMS support. take standard engine, and zombie your way through fights to more learning experience.
4. Direwolf. specifically as an introduction to Omnimechs. if you can think it, the Direwolf can usually be built with it.
Wow, this attracted some comments eh? I can't help but chime in, myself! Copy/pasting what I posted on Reddit:
I'm really happy to see the VGL-1 get some love, as it's my favorite VGL. Though I prefer 2xLPL + 2xLRM15 + lightTAG (or 2xLPL + SRMs, or 2xLPL + just about anything really). Clan XL, can go fast, reasonably armored. It's a little big for its tonnage, but how much is that actually going to matter in tier 5? It's a great choice.
The VL-5T is also an excellent choice. If you must run an IS XL, get it in a small, fast package that is hard to hit. The -5T is all of those things. I worry that newbies might be too cautious to really use and abuse the VT's mobility to maximum effect... but it's at least a reasonable bet.
I wish I could say the same for the WLF-2. Though I love my WLF-2 (it's a just plain better version of my perennial favorite the CDA-2A), the fact is it has basically the same strengths as the VT, but more weaknesses. It's larger. It's doesn't have as waspy a waist as the VT. Yeah, it's significantly faster, but in tier 5 how many newbies are going to be able to hit a smaller mech going 115 kph vs a larger one going 130? The extra speed is not a significant advantage in tier 5, IMO.
I agree with all the reasons the MCII-B is awesome. However, I would say that you need to give it to the right kind of newbie. Not everyone is a born Assault player. But for those who are the MCII-B is, well, probably the most meta mech in the entire game. Who doesn't like that? For a newbie I might toss one of those (ridiculous 2 ton weight) JJs and buff the engine up to a 350. But that's a minor quibble. The recommendation is solid one, even if the details might be slightly different.
Overall, I am surprised to see how Lights and Assaults are now becoming more recommended for newbies, instead of the historically favored fast Heavies/durable Mediums. Very interesting. Is this a reflection of how the game meta has changed in the last two years? Would a newbie with the VT outperform a newbie with a boring old HBR, or Powerhouse, or 6xMPL+3xJJ LBK? I do not know...
If anyone has given all of the above to newbies and asked them how they liked them, I would be very curious to know what was said. I have given the RGH-PH and LBK builds to one newbie, and he liked them - especially the -PH. But a sample size of 1 is awfully small!
HBR is a hell of a starter mech too. I would probably take it as a heavy over an assault, just because those high quality assaults get called out and focussed pretty hard even in the scrub tiers.
Another good place to ask questions is MWO Comp Discord. Those guys are all pros, know the game inside and out and are very friendly.
I respect, but kinda disagree. I can't recommend lights or assualts in most cases. Concepts needed for their survival takes some learning. I think it is essential for a new player to find mechs that have great survivability while still being decently mobile with forgiving builds that offer one or two weapon groups. Things like bushwacker X1 with 2 UACs, EJag or Crab laser vomit, thunderbolts with laser vomit or laser vomit with backup missile system, or maybe Quickdraws with same philosophy. Most of these all offer bonuses to survivability with Jump Jets and/or ECM. Always recommend the hellbringers also that offer a great mech with high mounts that also offer a build any build option out the door as a "first mech" if selected.
Hellbringers are great because they allow you to try out different weapons and feel quite nimble. The high mounts help with targeting as well.
When I was a new player, I used the Highlander. Ever since, I kept using it as a multi-role support and didn't tinker too much with it since I didn't want to change how i played.
My first MWO mech was a Commando 2D. Personally I have no regrets but that was years ago. I'd probably go with a medium now though. Hopefully here in a few months I'll get a new comp and get back online.
Achilles had a hill?
I've found that the MCII-B with UAC10s/LB10s is more lethal than the classic nickel and dime build.
I use it with 3 uac2 and 1 lbx2. Your heat build is very manageable and you get that sweet crit
I go all in on UAC20x2
I think I saw your first vid around 2012...still playing, CDA 2A and DRG 1C are the most fun mech's in game,
Marauder 3R. AC20 and 4 MPL. Big LFE, heat sinks and ammo. The beast runs at 75KPH, can take a pounding and has excellent heat management. You can also run it with 2 or 3 weapon groups and only two types of weapons with similar ranges.
Found it odd that the tag for the VGL ATM build is torso mounted. Mount mines on the arm for those cheeky HPG top-to-ground fights.
Exactly. I have also had a ball in Solaris, getting up high as the enemy streams down a street and raining ATMs from above.
So this is why I'm seeing so many triple ppc/atm V-Eagles recently
Hunchback 4p is my favourite. Cheap, powerful and easy to use.
I'd actually recommend the 4G for newbies, just because big cannon go boom is easier for new players to understand, and with engine DHS heat issues are near nonexistent so they can focus on positioning
might try some of these out..got a list of mechs to avoid until later on? (high skill floor?)
Why....WHY do people still insist on running light mechs with XL engines for new players?!?! For the LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY STOP!!! Nothing will turn a new player off this game then getting popped early in games...nothing!!! Trying to tell a new player that they just need to get better at positioning to not get popped so early will make them run like for the hills like a biblical flood is coming. I love the mech choices, but would take light engines in the IS mechs and compromise some firepower. I did this for my uncle who was slow to get used to how to move and position in the game (and lets face it PGI's map walls that hang you up dont always help) having mechs that were a bit more robust helped him stay in games longer and work up slowly, but now he is averaging over 300 match scores and 400 damage on most games. Not too shaby
The side torso hitboxes on a Wolfhound are miniscule, if you're playing an IS light mech you need every possible ton of weapons to be competitive. Also XL engines mean you are faster and need to fit fewer heat sinks - which gets you more weapons. Simple example - AC20 Urbanmech with STD60 vs XL100
@@mechatankzilla4733 I do understand that, but we are talking about new players, those that went through the tutorial and are just starting to play, they will NOT be playing them correctly and will often sit still trying to line up a shot. I am just saying go light engines, good cooling and slightly less firepower until they get good enough to access XL engines.
@@shawnadams1460 Being new player (playing since april). I didn' have problem with the XL build lights I found in guides. Honestly, the extra speed and manouverability worth it, I feel that if im faster and zigzagging, Im more protected than being slower with a bit more sturdy engine.
Honestly, I cant recall too many cases dying due engine explosion...
My favorite four. Urbanmech 3m for missiles and energy. Griffin 3n for ecm and missiles. Warhammer for variety. Stalker 3m because its just good. These are my Innersphere choices.
In Clan lights I'm between Adder and Kitfox as both have speed and firepower variety, but kitfox has jumpjets. Medium I have to go for Huntsman as ecm and omni pods selection can fit for any engagement. Heavy has to be Hellbringer, it's ecm allows many options and is a deadly combination of weapons. Assault I'm basic so Kodiak, though the ones you mentioned are excellent but no one will disagree that a Kodiak is scary on the field
I'm surprised that the Crab 27 or any of the Marauder variants didn't make it to the list.
I'll vouch for the Crab. damn thing just doesn't die, even the slightly less efficient 20 variant
Marauder while very safe to use needs a bit of knowledge (twisting to show your dead side as MAD are all asymetric, also a bit weird to manoeuver around, and arm mount weapons are really low) - friend of mine who just started went with WHM-6R instead and is doing excellent with it as it's much simpler to use.
I disagree with one thing. BAS is easier to disarm because whatever you do, your torso weapons are visible from every angle, no matter the distance to enemy. Many players will target those specific points and no amount of twisting and covering will save you. On the other hand in MKII you can twist your torso or just wiggle to spread the damage. In my experience, even with less armor / structure on MKII arms in comparison to BAS shoulders I can keep my weapons intact longer on Diamond Shark platform.
I religiously recommend the roughneck or the cataphract
theyre hilariously beefy for their weight class and they allow you to really get that stompy mech feel without being so huge and lumbering like an assault
theyre still tough and stompy but smaller and so more forgiving for positioning mistakes, as well as cheaper
I've always recommended the Warhammer 6R. There's a few different configurations that are very viable, and it has at least 1 hardpoint for every weapon system so you can try out everything.
Roughneck yes, Cataphract no. Most cataphracts have terrible hardpoints. Roughnecks are tanky and a few have pretty good hardpoints.
The Roughneck 3A is a great, tough/forgiving laserboat that can keep relatively cool.
I have a Cataphract 0XP build that is pretty crazy for mid-end game (but still really good in early game), carrying a LB20X AC and 4 Medium Lasers, along with the ECM and AP the base model comes with.
@@gfarrell80 I do think bad hardpoints are a thing you should get familiar with sooner rather than later
its like an entire category of mechs that would otherwise feel cool to play and imo the newer a player is the easier it is for them to adjust to bad hardpoints in the first place
@@SquishyFletcher I have that too but it is not easy to use.
my V-Eagle has x2 ER PPCs and an LBX10, with 1 fire button. The lbx slugs arrive slightly after the PPCs have punched a hole. Also with the Blood Asp, ECM is great for new players but it teaches bad map awareness and you suddenly wonder why everyone is picking on you when you switch to another non ECM mech. This video is great btw
Care to share the build? The traditional 3PPC somehow doesn't work for me (im just too itchy to fire all)...
Good stuff!
Personally I use a Roughneck build with snub PPCs--mech has great high mounts and is pretty tough.
Assault mechS DO NOT jump. at best they Hop. :-)
If you had to pin me down to pick 4 mechs for a new player one in each weight class, I would list the Arctic Cheetah(light), Shadow Cat (or Arctic Wolf omni) (medium), Hellbringer (heavy), and Blood Asp(assault), with Hellbringer and Arctic Cheetah being my recommendation for first two to get.
All of these mechs are Omni mechs which allows a new player the ability to experiment with different weapon types so they can sample a larger array of the game at a lower C-bill threshhold overall which I think is important as new players don't have a lot of C-bills to throw around after the first mech purchase or two. All of these mechs have good to above average profiles, save for perhaps the Blood Asp (but then almost no assaults have a small profile), and all of them have good to great weapon mount placements for their functions.
They also all come with an ECM variant (which would be the one I recommend buying of each type) which can help provide some "training wheels" to new pilots as they learn how to use positioning on the map or within the main battlegroup. The ECM can help to cover mistakes a bit, buying them some time to hopefully make adjustments. Also Clan tech tends to be more flexible to out fit due to lighter weight, smaller components in general (especially heat sinks) so it's a bit easier to learn on. Anyhow, my 2 cents.
Hey there. Great stuff. (Newby here) I was just wondering what your thoughts are on the Atlas. Its my favorite mech in all of battletech and I have an As7-S. Any build recommendations?
Before anyone gets onto me for taking an assault slot as a newb, I do also play my Urbie R60-L and my hero Hellbringer. I just REALLY like the Atlas and I want to get good with it. Xp
I know this is late - but I wouldn’t really recommend an Atlas as a beginner mech.
I love the Atlas too, I’m a legendary founder and have played an Atlas since the beta. It can still work as a ‘tip of the spear’ tank or a brawler in an organized team, by torso twisting and using your giant arm hitboxes as shields, to protect your torso. But I think it suffers a LOT in PUG matches against newer, more heavily armed, and more slender assault mechs. It just doesn’t really have the hardpoints or the thin design/hitboxes that make modern meta mechs so good. The Atlas also IMO suffers a lot from the power creep of MWO, as one of the oldest mechs in the game, its limited hardpoints are outdated now, and it really isn’t particularly excellent at anything, other than soaking huge amounts of damage.
I think the Atlas is just TOO big, too slow, and the giant wide boxy torso is too easy to focus fire. It’s also very hard to track fast targets with the torso weapons, but the new buffs to torso twist speed and max pitch should help.
I think learning to play a Atlas really requires a lot of coordination and communication with your team and knowledge of the maps, to know when to push and where, and how to get the most out of your Atlas. You are also highly dependent on your team following you in, to capitalize on the giant distraction/wall you create for them. If your team doesn’t push, or starts NASCARing away, then you are likely to die without achieving much.
For those reasons, I think it’s a pretty poor choice for beginners. Despite its iconic status and immense reputation in the fluff.
I wish the Mad Dog and Timberwolf had the same legs as the Mad Cat Mk2, looks so much better.
Hunchback or centurion for starters is a good choice. Teaches them to torso twist and play peekaboo.
Yeah, the hunchie also has minimal heat issues, especially the 4G as long as you have engine DHS
I would suggest looking at the Artic Wolf mech variants. very easy-point and shoot. yes they have a smaller range, but for a new bro its very easy to get some damage with them.
The Arctic Wolf is mostly SRM play and that can be difficult to pull off for new players considering the low surviveability of the mech. The Shadowcat is a lot easier to play and has better build variety. I would still recommend the Shadowcat over the Vapor Eagle or Arctic Wolf.
Back in the day (4 years ago? 5? 6? I forgot how long I've been playing) the big starter recommended to me was a Hunchback. I still have it, but don't play it much anymore.
The Hunchback is still a good jack of all trades and a great pick for new players. But there are plenty of much stronger 'Mechs out there by now.
Laserboat Hunchback or especially Hunchback II is still a top quality mech
I tend to agree with avoiding lights and assaults at first. They're unforgiving to new players for either a lack of armor or mobility. A medium or heavy, preferably with armor quirks, will allow a new player to get used to the mechanics and flow of the game without getting owned (and therefore frustrated) as often. Ditto for rotary autocannons or massed AC/2 builds that require face time with the enemy, as a new player will use that opportunity to sustain way more damage than they need to.
The Vapor Eagle may be the best of all worlds, combining firepower and mobility, but there is something to be said about the tanky-ness of a roughneck or an orion.
Uziel can run 4 light ppcs, cann jump and is more survivable than a Veagle
Awolf can run dual ER ppcs on its shoulder , and goes 97 and can mount 8 DE or 8 Missile systems, ECM, AMS, its also an omnimech so you can customize it to your hearts content.
My recommendations would be like... Raven 3L triple ERLL, Urbanmech R68 MRM30, Griffon 2N LRM/MRM boat, Hellbringer laser vomit, Vindicator 1X MRM40, Bushwacker dual RAC5... Stuff that has ECM or massive armour to help a noob survive, and mid to long range weapons that are easy to use. IMO Assault mechs, short range brawlers and really fast Light mech builds are for more advanced players that have good map knowledge and positioning.
On a related thought, are there any 'Mech chassis that you would recommend a new player to steer far away from?
Hm, it’s kind of interesting that pros suggest pretty light mechs mostly. I’ve always thought that some heavier options wpuld be better because of some extra beating they can take.
The black knight laser build or the hunch back or the crab or the urban mech
I disagree with those 4 mechs 100%, lights and assaults are not the best for new players, it should be mediums or heavies. Until they can step further to Assaults and Lights.(ohh the Vapor Eagle is a medium mech my bad)
Not to mention lights with sub 100 speed and 40t mediums XD, PPC lights are good tho
Can a skill tree, set up on one mech type, be imported and used on a different mech type?
My number 1 and 2 mechs for new players are Catapult K-2 with 4ML and 2 AC-10's. The K2 is a super durable mech that has a low profile and is relatively nimble. It can dish out the damage and take abuse as well. The other is the Quickdraw 4G. MRM 30/40 with 3/4 ML. Super basic again. A durable mech with only two weapon groups to worry about. I have seen with new players that they tend to push in too deep and can't get out again. In Lights they die really fast because they don't yet know how to play the class and with Assaults they think you can stay all day and not die because I'm in an Assault right. The two heavies i mentioned are forgiving to players who may push in a little too deep. The whole point is to allow new players to stay alive long enough that they don't just quit the game because they die too fast. It doesn't take long to graduate out of those mech's and move into a more challenging class once you grasp the fundamentals.
Wow, since when do you have a beard? Nice video btw.
urban mechs, for light mech they are pretty tanky and can pack a punch. hbk iic mechs are great choices as well. hbk iic mechs can pack more firepower than most heavy mechs with better heat management in most cases.
How does MWO deal with the economic aspects of large scale war? That's supposed to be the Inner Sphere mechs' strength, but for dueling-style matches where attrition over time and cost/availability of components, the IS strength is being ignored for game design reasons.
just coming into MWO, and found the Direwolf similar to one I picked up called the Incubus or Vixen, it sounds fairly similar to the Direwolf in every way, is the Incubus a worse design? would love to know more about my speedy boi!
Incubus is a light mech, small and agile. The Dire Wolf is an assault, big, low agility but packs a ton of firepower.
@@NoGutsNoGalaxy sorry got mixed up with those mechs, I meant the Wolfhound featured in this video xD my mistake.
@@allytank-itykitty7417 the incubus has more sustained DPS with its machine gun hardpoints, but the wolfhound can do more upfront damage. The incubus wants to brawl with its heavies and assaults where it can sit off to one side and stare at enemies while peppering them with machine gun rounds, while the wolfhound wants to stab big mechs in the back from range
I remember my first game like 10 years ago. Took atlas and got humiliated 😂
What do I need to get started in MWO? I used to play this back in the mid 90s and loved it but never online (slow dial up connections😂) .
You just need to download the game. It's free to play, the only thing that costs real money is special "hero" variants of certain mechs that make you earn extra C-bills from each match you play. You can earn new mechs and weapons just by playing the game. Give yourself lots of time to get comfortable with the controls and to learn all the maps and hotkeys. It takes time.
Im kinda sueprised a tripple rotary ac2 marauder-3r didnt show up
Rotary weapons need a lot of face time. Choosing when to engage, how long to fire, and to move laterally while firing are not easy to master. Also you need to be accurate to avoid spreading the shots all over the target. I think this is why it is not on the list.
The Rotary-Marauder is my favorite 'Mech atm, but it's not that easy to play. Like Geoffrey said, it needs a lot of facetime and timing is critical. So new players will be overwhelmed and killed many times until they got it right. But, the Rotary-Marauder is a great make to move to after you mastered the basics.
@@oliverhaake7552 IMO its the most boring easy mech any person can run. Its my most successful mech i've ever run and I really dont like using it anymore.
@Dawid Tinc Like the dude says: "Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ;-)
For how long do you play MWO? This recommendation is all about new players. And I don't think new players will be highly successful with rotary guns, because unexperienced players tend to spray the damage all over enemy 'Mechs, while loosing their right side torso (and though most of their weapons) fast while facetanking.
The Marauder-3R is surely not the most difficult to play. From my experience it's one of the most effective heavy 'Mechs on almost any terrain. But it is surely no newbie tech.
@@ShouldBeDrawing If that is your experience in T5 it is nice that you found it a successful mech and it is not a bad choice. It is a very long time since I played in T5 so no doubt my earlier comments are biased towards what happens in higher Tiers. The mechs recommended in the video should be high performers at all levels. I do like Marauders in their many flavors as they are easy to wiggle the nose and spread incoming damage.
I've seen streamers play with the HUD off in game. Is there any benefit or advantage to doing this, or is it just them challenging themselves?
No benefit at all. Some do it as a challenge but that is all.
@@NoGutsNoGalaxy Awesome, thanks mate. Cool channel btw.
I would take the BAS-B over the MCII-B. It can run the exact same build, and it has ECM. Class I JJs are not worth the weight over the mobility IMO, hence the B rather than A. Being an Omnimech, you can also run different builds on it without having to buy a new mech and reskill it all over again. Saving CBills for a new player
kinda but the BAS is way more expensive cbill wise upfront
B doesn’t have JJs, the A is the one you’re thinking of.
NGNG needs an " Albeit" shirt lol
No hellbringer? Was it nerfed, or something?
I realize this isn't a new video and it might be a little bit out of date (only a little bit), and im not a new player, just a bad one.. I was looking for something new to try out after all the hunchbacks and dragons I seem to have been gathering (dont ask). I had kinda been looking at the wolfhound for a while and I took a long look at that build and decided to go for it.
I haven't had as this much fun with a light mech in this game since beta. So zippy, so tanky, much zap. Would recommend.
I don't agree with this list at all.
These mechs requires good situational awareness, and/or planed strafing runs.
Good mechs for new players would be the IS/Clan hunchbacks - Shadowhawk - Marauder/Marauder IIC - Jager - IS/Clan Riflemen.
All these mechs require is staying with the team and picking targets.
MADs especially good as Newer players dont know about armor spreading yet. The MADs, either standard, IIC, or the II are all rather slim in their head on profile. Add they are all tanky as fuck and they make a good first timer platform.
Dat's a lotz of albeits.
I have to admit, I just skipped through the video, but I find some of the mechs not being a good choice for _new_ players.
VL-5T is one of my favorite mechs in the game, but the combo of running, jumping and twisting is something that new players find difficult. I had several new players in my unit trying them out and it took them quite a while to learn it and getting used to it.
Light Mechs:
new players should be carefull playing light mechs because you usually need a bit of understanding on what is going on. Harassing with wolfhounds is great, but only if you understand how your team and the enemy team is moving. I would maybe say "try a kitfox" if new players ask for an easy to play light mech. ECM, AMS, staying with the team, and omni mech for experimenting a bit, which makes it always a good choice for players who don't have that much cbills.
Mad Cat mk2
Not a bad choice, but the big advantage of this particular Dakka Mad Cat are the arm actuators, which is something new players usually don't feel comfortable with either. It might be a good mech to learn it I guess? Nevertheless, the ECM bloodasp is the better choice in my opinion.
In general: new players do profit a bit more from ECM, because especially in the lower tiers the ECM confuses the enemy a lot. Thats just my experience from having a look at new players in my unit, but I think it is difficult to ask top players about good mechs for new players.
I agree with your arm mount comment... I feel like new players HATE the way arm mount aimpoints are crazy compared to a nice stable and centered torso mount. Tracking 2 reticles is a learned skill that can make people uninstall when it makes them feel dumb a few too many times.
@@jong2359 yeah, exactly that. But then maybe a mech with only arms mounts, like the dakka mad cat might be a mech to learn it? Because technically you only need to track the arms. But then I wouldn't say for "new players'. That is something for later on to learn and master.
what about Hellbringer virago the one with ECM or the Huntsman?
I'm thinking about the Marauder 1 which is quite versatile as well.
I think these ones are solid choice for beginners
Huntsman needs a bit more skills to excel as it's a fragile medium, compared with a Griffin for example, and needs good heat management skills like most Clan 'mechs.
Man the font size in this game drives me nuts
Has any of these recommendations changed in any way?
👍
👌
.... disapointed there hasn´t been any mention for a heavy mech ....
i took a wolfhound simply cause i wanted a good laserboat, but i took the dual AMS variant
Vaporeagle i got a good time later, but rather to make it into a close in uac burster ..
.... the madcat 2 ?... i just can´t stand the thing, as in yes I KNOW it´s good but because everyone and his mother has it i refuse to get it .. rather took the kodiak for a UACboat (originaly quadLBX), and non ecm BASP gaussboat (don´t ask why no ecm, i don´t know ... maybe extra space i guess)
Question: Why no Heavies?
ecm is super, super necessary for noo ies considering they wont know how to take cover from lrms until they really learn the game
nothing will turn someone off mwo faster than the CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG MEDIUM LASER DES- CLANG CLANG
Would you say these mechs are still good for a player who is returning after about a year off?
Yes they are still good. Top? Probably not but still good performer’s
@@NoGutsNoGalaxy Thanks for the quick reply.
Im surprised no ECM mechs , as it gives some latitudes for position. Advising pop tarts and ATMs for beginners is not a good idea. I would have put a Hellbringer in. Also beginners love to LRM ... But no mention
About 1000hrs here & still one of my favorite games. Just had to stop as faction play was literally just vs. full packs of EVIL & the likes. How is faction these days?
I have a TRASH AS HECC laptop but it can perfecc run MWO on like 30-15 fps
And I suck because of it
Yay
Good tips I shall try on my trashy laptop
But what if I utterly refuse to play Clan 'Mechs?
I recommend the laser variant Hunchback. Out of the box stock it's decently strong, just move a torso medium to the head and shift the armor forward. Remember to twist to protect that torso battery, watch that heat, and you should be able to get something done.
@@boldandbrash9447 Haven't bought a Hunchback yet, though it's on the future purchase list. So far I have:
UrbanMech UM-R68
Locust LCT-1E
Centurion CN9-A
Enforcer ENF-4R
Crab CRB-27B
Dragon DRG-1N
JagerMech JM6-S
Marauder MAD-3R
Cyclops CP-11-A
King Crab KGC-000
\o/
I'm a new player and my issue is that I NEED MECH BAYS AAAAAAAAAAA
can this game be played in VR.. i hate the keyboard and mouse
Yes, but you have to play in VR using a virtual mouse and keyboard in game. Also, no - I am just kidding.
You guys are leaving tier 5?
Phil buddy, I respect you as a Mechwarrior, content creator and MWO influencer, however, these recommendations miss the mark completely, IMO. The No. 1 priority for a new MW is to get familiar with the game as fast as possible, add skill points and upgrade their PSR. Therefore, the emphasis for new MW mechs should be the following in no order: ECM, tankiness, damage output, supporting team roles for the outset. Therefore, no light or medium mechs. Always a preference for mechs with ECM and AMS if possible. The weapons that have the best chances for easy high damage potential are the MRM and LRM - I can hear the boo birds now. The easiest weapon to use is the laser - point and shoot (don't forget to trace). That said, I'd go with a Hellbringer (lasers and ECM), Catapult (LRMs and BAP), Marauder (MRMs) and Thanatos (ECM and AC10s). All other weapons take some learned skill to make effective. Add JJs and there is another variable of complexity. For now, I'd recommend JJs as a maneuvering item (get over rocks and cliffs), not an attack item (pop tarting). These 4 core mechs will satisfy the above criteria. Lights are specialty mechs, unique in play style. Assaults are for leading the charge, soaking up damage for the team and have minimal maneuverability. Both are too important in their roles within the team for noobs to pilot, IMO. Now, if we must have 1 of each, that's another matter. Lights need lasers and ECM, the Mediums should be fast and/or tanky with Streaks on it - Artic Cheetah or Hellspawn, although the Centurion is pretty stout - and the Assault would be a Marauder IIC - it is more defensive than a MC IIC and not as vulnerable. A new MW can add mechs and weapons as their skills improve - PPCs and UACs, eg. SRMs mean you have to get close. Another consideration is AMS which can really boost your match score, but you'd need 2 or more and there are not that many designs where you can get that and still fit within the above criteria. I'd also recommend that a new MW play every mech until they win, use earned skill points, then move to the next mech. Recycle when you get to the end of the hangar. I did not follow my own advice and had a dreadful time getting into the game. Finally RUclipsrs' recommendations helped me move forward. Lastly, don't you think the COVID beard is a bit cliché? LOL
Does MWO really have new players?
Yeah, but not much helping them out.
:D
Fairly expensive builds though. It's going to take weeks if not months to earn the c-bills for these.
The starting bonuses these days are huge :) and there are tons of events lately. I started in December and have been rolling in cash for mechs!
Is this list still accurate?
I need to do an update to this. But these are still great!
new players should not be in assault mechs period the warhammer 6r, crab or bushwhacker and a urban mech r60 with 4 mg a large laser and a med laser, an archer 2r or 5s there all versatile and easy to play if you must have a clan mech get a mad dog b instead of the archer all the mechs you listed are good but for a new player they are difficult to use and could cause a new player to be discouraged
Best 4 mechs for pro players is the adequat name of the video. New players with speedmachines that depend on twisting and posistioning??? New players are conserned with finding the way and aiming straight. Poptarding vapor eagle don't make me laugh or the lootpiniata MC Mk2??? Here is what you do as a new player
Assault: Blood Asp B dakka ecm
Heavy: Hellbringer Laservomit ecm
Medium: Hunchback iic lrm
Light: Arctic Cheetah mg,lasers ecm.
After you learned everything you need on those chasis you can come back here and try out those mechs.
You are welcome!
There should have been the BASP uacs, because tier 3-4-5 are all blind and ECM means free farm.
Also wolfhound is a weaker duplicate of the vulcan
Edit, the basp is
2erppc-3ac2
2ppc-3uac5
3uac5 1uac10
That uac10 uac20 is just weak
2xUAC/10, 1xUAC/20 is actually decent. Nobody wants an 80 pt double tap.
Sub optimal build, same as the mad cat one, that 2+2 is decent, but sub optimal
@@JGxDATA agreed, the bullet velocity difference makes uac10's and 20's not match up very well
I mean the video is two years old, and I love your content. I dont really agree with Vapor Eagle for new players. The complexity of throwing in jump jets, and honestly even as a veteran, ATMs are unwieldy. SRM, MRM, or LRM would be easier for a new player. The other Eagle build is fine. Sniping is a good recommendation for a new player.
This video is out dated.