Watching this film made me realize that I misunderstood the first movie. This was never about Joker. It was always about Arthur, he is the real protagonist. I don't think Philips cares that much about Joker. I think he sees Arthur as an opportunity to do a tragedy about mental health, social decay, media obsessions and abuse. I think the film is more concerned with exploring the humanity and ultimate fragility of media famous serial killers who are deep down disturb left behind individuals with no real power or much agency. And what we the audience make of them than with anything that even resemblances the actual DC distrub criminal mastermind it's supposed to be about. It's an Arthur Fleck saga of the road to a senseless death not a Joker origin story. It's not a deeper exploration of DC and never was, it was always a completely different commentary on DC drag.
Watching this film made me realize that I misunderstood the first movie. This was never about Joker. It was always about Arthur, he is the real protagonist. I don't think Philips cares that much about Joker. I think he sees Arthur as an opportunity to do a tragedy about mental health, social decay, media obsessions and abuse. I think the film is more concerned with exploring the humanity and ultimate fragility of media famous serial killers who are deep down disturb left behind individuals with no real power or much agency. And what we the audience make of them than with anything that even resemblances the actual DC distrub criminal mastermind it's supposed to be about. It's an Arthur Fleck saga of the road to a senseless death not a Joker origin story. It's not a deeper exploration of DC and never was, it was always a completely different commentary on DC drag.
Pretty good movie overall.
If you remove all the musical numbers, it’s a better film overall. That ending though, ouch.
lol ur pronunciation of Deux was way more how it's supposed to be than her correction 😂
okay so its not about joker but arthur. but then why use the name joker to steal attention & time from people
@@KaiAl-d8o yes I am complaining about that precisely. Just because I am understanding about what happened doesn't mean I am not complaining.