Goldilocks Albums (w/Martin Popoff)
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Join Pete Pardo & Martin Popoff for a discussion of bands who had albums that made a transition in sound...it carried some of the old, some of the new, and forged a path for that band going forward. The Goldilocks 'three bowls of porridge' idea.
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The Goldilocks pick for Rush is 1000% Permanent Waves, it of course had the two huge commercial hits that are still complicated but a lot more accessible (Freewill and Spirit of Radio), foreshadowing the simplified songwriting of Moving Pictures and everything after, but it also has long proggy songs (Jacob’s Ladder and Natural Science) like their previous albums.
This was a fun concept, really interesting!
I agree with you. I mean in a way they're ALL bridges to each other but that one is the most obvious transition to me.
I actually think there's a case to be made that Rush has 3 goldilocks albums.
Permanent Waves is definitely the biggest one, but I think Signals shows the beginning of the transition towards the synth-heavy late 80s albums, and then Presto is a bridge between the late 80s heavy synth-based period, pointing toward the return to guitar riff oriented songs beginning with Roll The Bones into the 90s & beyond.
Great discussion as usual! Rubber Soul is absolutely the Goldilocks album of The Beatles.
1.) Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry - Easing what would have been a jarring transition from No Exit to Parallels
2.) Corrosion of Conformity - Blind - The soft introduction of Pepper Keenan
3.) Social Distortion - Self-titled - Accentuating more of the cowpunk/trad rock sound from Prison Bound, of which they would continue using.
4.) Split Enz - True Colours - Neil Finn nosing up to the front as main songwriter, they would continue on as a traditional pop band as opposed to their experimental psych-pop origins.
5.) VH - 5150 - Still carrying on some of the writing style from 1984, which would be all but gone by OU812
1. Duke - Genesis.
2. Season's End - Marillion
3. Meddle - Pink Floyd
4. Aftermath - The Rolling Stones
5. Rubber Soul - The Beatles
6. The Who Sell Out - the Who
7. Today! - the Beach Boys
8. Peter Gabriel 3 (Melt) - Peter Gabriel
9. Heaven and Hell - Black Sabbath
10. Permanent Waves - Rush
Thanks for doing my suggestion!
Popoff and Pardo are at it again with examples of the rule set forth by Goldie and the 3 Bears. A very interesting discussion by our two hosts. Not surprisingly, Martin picks some bands not really on the personal radar but kudos to him for daring to bring up REM again and he perfectly nailed the album for that band. First band that came to mind was Chicago and Pete offhandedly discussed them so the only other one that comes to mind is The Who. When did they move from just another mod band to the behemoth they would become. My thought would be the album The Who Sell Out, the band's third studio album released in 1967. The first of what was intended to be a concept album by the band although that is fairly loose since the songs are not really connected though it is presented as a concept with commercials and radio announcements. It has some of the feel of Happy Jack and other early Who records but Daltrey's I Can See For Miles [which was a big hit] sounds more like the band the Who became. The next album was a fully realized concept album [rock opera] which was followed by a 'failed' concept Lifehouse album [but what a great failure!] and then another rock opera. In any event, seems to meet the idea in my head. Thanks, gents, for another well-thought show. There ya go!
I've heard The Smiths come up a few times recently. I actually love this band. Johnny Marr is one of the greatest guitarists of the 80's or any decade, timeless.
Johnny's guitar playing as well as guitar tone and fx on How Soon Is Now? will hold up forever. On a side note I love Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now.
Love REM, but yeah The Smiths have that "something special" for me that is really hard to top.
King's X - Out of the Silent Planet 😉
For a serious answer, I tend to call these "bridge" albums:
Savatage - Gutter Ballet: Great balance of heavy songs (Of Rage and War, The Unholy) and theatrical elements (title track, When the Crowds Are Gone)
Symphony X - The Odyssey: retains some of the neoclassical sound and prominent keyboards of their early period, mixed with the more straightforward metal approach they explored on Paradise Lost and Iconoclast. Also, Russell Allen's vocal approach is perfectly balanced here.
Good call on the Savatage. After GB, they started trending towards what would become TSO.
See what you did there .😂
Steve Earle - I Feel Alright
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mother's Millk
Black Label Society - Blessed Hellride
The Who - A Quick One
Sloan - Navy Blues
Dire Straits - Making Movies
Wilco - Being There
The Byrds - The Notorious Byrd Brothers
Heart - Passionworks
Bathory - Blood Fire Death. Not 100% viking metal but some songs fall into that category.
Voivod - Killing Technology. Not 100% prog metal, still very thrashy and aggressive but more complex than the first two albums
Blind Guardian - Follow the Blind. They found their style on the next one, but Banish from Sanctuary was the first song in that style and it's on Follow the Blind.
Manowar - Fighting the World. Still some power metal songs on this one, but also more commercial approach with the other ones.
Running Wild - Under Jolly Roger. Pirate themes, more melodies, but still pretty harsh vocals and mechanical riffs.
Saxon - Crusader. Well, still heavy metal but more commercial. Not as much as the next one, but first attempts. Of course both great albums.
Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness. Songs are much longer than on the previous one but it's still not Necroticism. It's a mixture of grindcore and death metal.
Death - Human. More technical than Spiritual Healing still sounding like a classic death metal release.
Edge of Sanity - Unorthodox. Clean vocals for the first time, in one song but it was only their second album. Still more classic death metal.
Paradise Lost - Gothic. Still one foot in classic death metal, but more gothic influences and melodies on this one. A perfect example of a transitional album.
Japan - Quiet Life (from glam rock to art rock)
Miles Davis - Filles De Kilimanjaro (acoustic Miles to electric Miles)
Queen - The Game (rock to pop)
japan, good selection. Agree with The Game too, there is just enough of the old Brian May and new Freddie to make it transitional.
Hi Pete and Martin. Very interesting show. Here are some possible ideas for a future show:
1. Favourite metal / prog / hard rock instrumentals - e.g., Edgar Winter's "Frankenstein", Rush's "Where's My Thing" etc.
2. Favourite covers - hard rock cover songs that are arguably better, or at least more well known, than the original
3. Favourite music-related documentaries - the ones that made you say "wow I didn't know that"
4. Memorable lines - lines from song lyrics that have stuck with you after all these years
Cheerio
Flaming Lips 'Soft Bulletin' and Mercury Rev 'Deserter Songs' both qualify in shaping the direction of the indie psych musical landscape for the 21st century and are capstones of change for both bands. Both share Dave Fridmann who provided their epic spacious production.
Nice choice, I think The Sophware Slump by Grandaddy nestles nicely with them both.
@@assortedbile53811000% could not agree more Grandaddy if fucking awesome and TSS is an incredible leap forward for the band!
I would call The Beatles’“ Rubber Soul” a transition album. In late 1965, the Beatles were getting tired of endless touring and wanted to get more experimental.
Good choice with The Rolling Stones’ “Let It Bleed” (1969)
This was the first one that came to my mind.
UFO : their first w/Schenker (Phenomenon) could be a good choice.
Number of the Beast from Iron Maiden, while not dramatically different music, still the album that propelled them to great albums like Piece of Mind and Powerslave.
Amazing that Pardo did the JTull, I just listened to those exact three because I used to have all three on vinyl. After listening to all 3 recently I came to the exact same conclusion. Ending w A the 3 before were to me quintessentially the sound of folk-prog-Ian Anderson sound , love it !!!!
Europe - Start From The Dark
Iron Maiden - Somewhere In Time
Scorpions - Lovedrive
AC/DC - Highway to Hell (Mutt Lange)
Black Sabbath - Heaven and Hell
ABBA - Arrival
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Toto - Toto IV
A-ha - East of the Sun, West of the Moon
U2 - Achtung Baby
Rush - Permanent Waves
Gary Moore - Corridors of Power
The Eagles - Desperado
The Cardigans - Gran Turismo
I've always wanted to see a discussion between you two about transitional albums.
Love the choices ,thanks guys.
My additions to your lists are
1. Savatage - Hall of The Mountain King
2. Hawkwind - Hall Of The Mountain Grill
3. Miles Davis - In A Silent Way
4. Judas Priest - Sin After Sin
5. Bathory - Blood Fire Death
6. Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
7. The Cult - Electric
Great show as always! I really think most people are way off base about Signals and Grace Under Pressure though. Signals has FAR more keyboards, GUP is much more guitar dominated when you listen to actual instrumentation. The reason people don't hear it that way is because of many things. The overall production of GUP is very cold/brittle and digital sounding while Signals is very warm and analog. But it's also all the other factors, Alex's bright clean computery guitar sound, Neil's electronic drums, distinctly 80s keyboard pad sounds, etc. that I'm convinced has fooled people. GUP does sound far more electronic and "1980s" than Signals, but it's not because of the amount of keyboards.
Alice in Chains - Dirt
Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger
AC/DC - Highwy to Hell (cheating?)
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Riot - Fire Down Under
The Allman Brothers Band - Where It All Begins
Rush - Moving Pictures
Pete is right about 'Duke'. It does harken back to their progressive years in part but also heralds the more commercial approach of the remainder of their career. From 'Abacab' onward it was Pop all the way. Martin has hit on the best example of a "Goldilocks" album from REM as well. Some might offer 'Document' up but I think that Martin is on the money with 'Life's Rich Pageant'. Cheers, fellas.
It adds horns and it’s the start of the rise of Funky Phil, as we affectionately named him, at least at this time (affectionately, that is). Also what turned out to be the death throes of their prog. I’m trying to remember if the horrendous medley sop to the old fans to a shit back beat started on Duke tour but not sure, I think that came next and I think we still had some of the full length prog like Fountain of Salmacis.
Yeah, I reckon the medley idea stinks. There is something patronizing about it that downplays their earlier greatness. @@maddysmith8846
bring on the REM talk
One of Pete's absolute favourite bands I think 'Shiny Happy People' is on his desert island of essential songs. Just kidding of course! Love the late IRS period of the band and Document would be not only a landmark album but also a huge turning point to the next HUGE phase of the band where they would go from college darlings to mega pop stars.
Roxy & Elsewhere is the perfect example for Frank Zappa. It had short rock songs, long complicated compositions, comedy songs, jazz flavored songs and avant garde. Of all the albums in Franks catalog, this is the one that has great examples of several oof Zappas styles.
Roxy Music 'Manifesto' deserves a mention here. For me a very frustrating album as I LOVE the first "east" side as it is a revamped version of their more proggy 1974-ish era with incredible songs and killer instrumentation especially the title track and 'Stronger Through the Years'. The second "west" side definitely wreaks of pop & disco and leaves me feeling cold. However, Flesh & Blood and Avalon would not have happened without Manifesto.
Great choice. It came after the band had split then reformed and the UK music scene had change a lot since Siren. I like this album and whilst I see your point on West side, I love everything about Dance Away.
The whole career of the Rolling Stones and the Temptations can described this way.
Fully agree with many of your picks. I'll add another: Human by Death. It's a perfect balance of brutal, punishing death metal with fast, short songs and the more progressive elements of the following albums.
Yeah Human was the start of their progressive era which they continued with until the every end.
Blind Guardian - A Night at the Opera
You begin to hear the cleaner productions, more mid-paced songwriting, and symphonic elements that would define their later sound. But, the more guitar-oriented, speedy, and somewhat raw sound associated with their 80s and 90s material still has a distinct presence.
Probably not much love here from Martin & Pete 😂 for my pick, but Bob Dylan's Bringing It All Back Home by Bob Dylan containing as it does nods to Bobby Z's acoustic past and points forward to his electric period.
Rush had many Goldilocks albums, but the transition would be for only the next three or four albums when the next Goldilocks album would drop. And each one of them was usually preceded by a live album. The changes in sound were usually pretty drastic, but each one still carried elements of the previous sound.
I would put "Still Life" from Opeth into this notion and a sign of what was to come from them. Great show and topic!
Rush - Permanent Waves. Shorter songs, more commercial hooks, but also Natural Science and Jacob’s Ladder.
How did it get overlooked?
Ok, I'm not entirely sure if I understand this concept, but these are my picks:
1) Def Leppard's 'Pyromania' - this album began the band's transition to a more commercial sound, but the songs were still rocking and like Martin said, some elements of 'High 'n' Dry' were still there.
2) Lynyrd Skynyrd's '1991' - this was the band's first album since the plane crash and the first with Ronnie's younger brother, Johnny Van Zant. There are elements of the bluesy southern rock sound from the previous five albums (thanks to Ed King, in my opinion), but it's Lynyrd Skynyrd in the '90s. They were trying to re-invent themselves.
3) The Black Crowes' 'The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion' - this is where the band found their identity, whereas their first album was very generic and typical rock 'n' roll. 'The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion' is still fun rock 'n' roll music, but there are more southern influences and the Robinson brothers' songwriting matured.
4) AC/DC's 'Highway to Hell' - I've always felt like it's a better album than 'Back in Black' simply because there's more balls, yet the songs have commercial appeal and with 'Highway to Hell,' the band was ready to take on the world.
5) Saxon's 'Lionheart' - after releasing some mediocre albums from the mid '80s to all throughout the '90s, Saxon came back stronger than ever with 'Lionheart.' The album marked a new era for the band and ever since then, they've released consistently strong albums. They have their classic NWOBHM sound, but with modern production. Personally, I think those albums are stronger than their classic '80s albums.
Love Martin's interjection of REM. One of many bands that could land in my top 5, depending on which way the wind is blowing. I'm a first five or six, maybe seven albums fan. Also, the 1980 EP Chronic Town. They can be odd and quirky, but so could The Beatles... but their dark, brooding stuff (especially '80's) is very captivating and timeless. I write a lot of hard rock/metal music and fantasize about Michael Stipe doing vocal parts for them.
Love the fact that you guys bring a musicians perspective to the funhouse. It adds so much to the presentation. Good job boys 💪
My personal picks:
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Manfred Mann’s Earth Band - The Roaring Silence
Queen - The Game
Iron Maiden - The Number Of The Beast
Van Halen - 1984
Red Hot Chili Peppers - BloodSugarSexMagic
Chicago - X (hi, Martin! 😆)
I would pick bssm from chili peppers. But then again, that album is actually almost a total transformation more than a transition. Because it sounds nothing like the previous album . And 80s chili peppers had trouble nailing down a style and sticking with it. So every album was kinda transitional 😂. Also , John leaving brought in narrvaro , for yet another album that doesn't sound like its predecessor . So bssm technically wouldn't fit in that category because OHM completely breaks from that . Of course, if u look past ohm , yes it definitely transitions to California to the rest of their career. RHCP have a very weird history as far as their sound and band members and producers. They don't line up at all with a change in sound
The Number Of The Beast - still with the straightforward Burr-drumming, some songs would fit Di'Anno prefectly: Children Of The Damned, 22 Acacia Avenue (would be even more credible with Paul), the title-song and Gangland. The streets-of-London-vibe is still there.
Good points. To me, Invaders sounds like it could be on Killers.
@@VantagePointrocksTrue, there's even the Di'Anno-sung B-side "Invasion", the prototype for "Invaders".
You are right Pete, the Fleetwood Mac albums during the "Bob Welch years" are fantastic...
Amen, I've just been on a Welch kick and Mystery to me is a masterpiece but it's probably Bare Trees that counts as the transitional album.
I agree. The Bob Welch era albums are a great listen. I would say that Kiln House and Future Games transitional albums. Kiln House was when Christine McVie started to make a major influence in the sound but wasn't a full member until the Future Games album which had her first songs for the band. Kiln House was the first album without Peter Green and Future Games was when Bob Welch joined and without Jeremy Spencer.
What about Cowboys From Hell-seems jarring compared to the first three but you can hear some germs of ideas on Power Metal.
The first one to come to mind was Anathema - "A Natural Disaster". And then Opeth - "Watershed"
Isn't all punk unlistenable.
Another good show. Interesting. I really liked REOs 1st album. Not much after that. Pink Floyd might be the only band that found their perfect in the middle of an album. 2nd side of Meddle. Thanks guys for making us think. 👍
Great show guys :) My 10 Picks (in no particular order) are:
1. The. Beatles “Sgt. Pepper”
2. Rolling Stones “Beggars Banquet”
3. Grateful Dead “Workingman’s Dead”
4. The Who “Tommy”
5. Allman Brothers “Eat a Peach”
6. Yes “The Yes Album”
7. Rush “Caress of Steel”
8. Genesis “Nursery Cryme”
9. Elton John “Goodbye Yellowbrook Road”
10. Black Sabbath “Master of Reality”
I think the Rust In Peace going into Countdown is a very big change. Rust In Peace, to me, almost sounds like a Shrapnel style Power Metal record - ala Apocrypha, and Chastain. While Countdown sees them chasing those trends set by the black album.
Beneath The Remains is Sepultura's masterpiece in my opinion.
I agree with Martin about Napalm Death (But I like Fear, Emptiness, Despair)
And I agree with Pete about Black Sabbath Vol. 4.
Marillion - Seasons end
Still has the same vibe as the later Fish-albums but because of Hogarth it is at the same time quite different
REM is getting more mentions than The Cure. Who knew? 😁The Cure's Goldilocks album would either be The Top or The Head on the Door. Pat Benatar's Tropico. ZZ Top's El Loco and Utopia's Ra also come to mind. The Moody Blues Octave is another. I was thinking Queen's The Game, but it would only work if the next album was The Works. Bee Gees' underrated Mr. Natural album. It was their first to add that R&B sound with a little falsetto that would become their trademark with the next album, Main Course.
Martin saying the "bands will probably disagree" is so true. My favorite Frank Marino album is The Power of Rock and Roll. He hates it and rarely plays any of it live.
April Wine : First Glance
Y&T : Earthshaker
For me Beggar's Banquet is the Stones Goldilocks album.
Martin ( @thecontrarians2438 ) - Pleased to Meet Me is an "homage" to GI Blues by Elvis - the layout.
Have you heard the new remix of Tim - released in September? It really "de-80's" it removes some echo, brings out the vocals and the rhythm. It's amazing!
"Wake The Sleeper" is my third favorite Heep album (after "Look At Yourself" & "Abominog"). It's so heavy! An example that came to mind is Whitesnake's "Slide It In". Not sure if it will get mentioned of not later in the video,
Interesting topic once again. I'm not sure I always understand the perspective here on some of these albums, but I'm always intrigued.
In the case of Megadeth, Rust represents for me a road that's mostly not taken, at least not for quite a long time. I don't think Countdown sounds anything like Rust in Peace. If anything that album for me feels like Dave observing the success of Metallica in 91 and going "damn, I want a piece of that too!". It's almost as if Rust never happened. It doesn't feel like a transition -- more of an endpoint. Maybe that's a controversial view, i really don't know.
No I agree with you. Rust in Peace is my favourite Megadeth album. But to me it belongs in the first quartet of their albums- Killing is my Business, Peace Sells and So Far...So Good etc. With Countdown to Extinction I hear Megadeth suddenly take a different commercial approach even though its the same lineup. I think your analysis is spot on. I see Countdown, Youthanasia, Cryptic Writings and Risk as the next quartet and representing the less thrashy and the more commercial Megadeth. Rust in Peace is the end point of the first era.
Let it Bleed, along with Zeppelin 1, In Rock, and probably dozens of other albums also helped define the transition from the 60s to the 70s in rock music as well.
That Replacements cover reminds me of Wish you were Here. Cheers.
Kamelot - The Black Halo. A more sophisticated production with more solid riffs but maintaining the melodic side that would later be lost.
The Beatles revolver I think is exactly what you and Martin are going for this album is when the boys started experimenting with all kinds of stuff.your shows are always enjoyable and I always look forward to the next show.
Not Rubber Soul?
@@MartinPopoff Yeah, it's definitely Rubber Soul
Loved Pete's segment on Duke. For me Duke and Abacab have self contained pop and prog songs and a few tracks where the two styles merge.
Bring on the REM album ranking!
Pete doesn't like REM, so that won't happen.
yes
I think that Voi Vod's "Killing Technology" seems to fit real well here.
You'll never change somebody's life with a 2 minute punk rock song, but you might just put a smile 😁 on their face for the day 😃👍
Janie Jones changed my life a lot within 2 minutes, Blitzkrieg Bop too.
Yes- Drama. Proggy but with more of a punch due to Trevor Horn. A precursor to 90125.
All The Young Dudes by Mott the Hoople immediately springs to mind!
X is so underrated. See how we are is on of my all time favorite
I think for Rush, it would be Permanent Waves. A real new feel with all the `ol Rushisms present.
With the Rolling Stones I would point towards Their Satanic Majesties Request.
They didn’t go further down that particular road, but their aesthetic changed, along with the image. Gone was the Chuck Berry ‘fanboy’/British Invasion ‘Kinks’ thing and in came something wilder. It’s the sound of the band moving away from their roots only to return to that afterwards in a completely different, dirtier way. Satanic Majesties… was the device that turned the Stones into The Stones, in my opinion.
Shocked to not see XTC drums and wires here. You’re slippin’, Martin.
Sea of Tranquility should have a show featuring Robin , and Martin . They both have a vast knowledge, and appreciation for All things Punk, and all the various subgenres relating to Punk
Similar handshake to Wish You Were Here on Pleased to Meet Me.
Btw, I remember in the late 90's Ian Anderson in one interview called Fleetwood Mac music rubbish. He said he likes the guys, but he hates their music. So I hated their music too (remembering Little Lies well), but then I heard Go Your Own Way and it was pretty good.
You never heard Go Your Own Way until the 90s or later?
@@mick5137 It was 1998 or 1999. All I heard before by this band was Little Lies and another song from the same album can't remember the title. I wasn't into pop music in the 90's. I remember some pop stuff from the 80's when I was a kid. Still I've been into rock since 1986 but I remember some pop songs from that era.
Thin Lizzy's Fighting certainly fits this topic
I think a great Goldilocks album is Trouble by Trouble. It has bits of the doom metal sound of Psalm 9 and gives you bits Psychedelic and Stoner Rock sounds of Manic Frustration
Iron Maiden brave new world is the first album I thought of for this
For me, Gutter Ballet by Savatage changed things and they became a slightly different beast after that.
Master of the Rings by Helloween sort of set the blueprint for every album afterwards
Land of the Free by Gamma Ray
Mutter by Rammstein, less electronic
I heard Martin taking about Graham Parker recently but not sure what show or channel it was. I do remember him mentioning the Bruce Springsteen family thing on that show, too.
I was a big Sepultura fan back in the early 90's.
Pantera. Cowboys from Hell is the perdect midpoint between the sound of Power Metal and the sound on Vulgar Display of Power and onward, in my opinion.
You could also say Power Metal is the mid-point between I Am The Night and Cowboys From Hell since the sound is ramping up but still has some songs that could fit in the Terry Glaze era.
Probably more of a quartet actually, but I just love bringing up 80s Pantera.
Similar to Nazareth: Status Quo ‘ rockin all over the world’
Wonder if an argument could be made with Black and Blue by the Rolling Stones being a Goldilocks album, first one with Ron Wood, another change in direction.
Good episode, thanks!
When’s Martin gonna do a visual ZZ Top book
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Type O Negative - October Rust. All the previous hardcore elements were dropped on that album and going forward. Bloody Kisses still has some of the hardcore stuff on there mixed in with the goth metal.
Good pick. That is why I like Bloody Kisses the most. I like the mix of styles
Nice call, Chaz!
Paradise Lost - Icon
Sabbath-Heaven and Hell is their goldilocks for sure. Fresh start, no more experimental songs, they sound heavier, and the vocals and lyrics changed with new short lived energy.
How about this topic: Best album by a band that is outside of what they're known for. Maybe done already?
Could the Queensryche self titled with Todd be considered a Goldilocks record? Changing the sound back to the original sound after those dark years?
Carnival Bizzare one of my favorite albums period.
Meddle! Thats the neatest example. Scorpions Lovedrive maybe
When I heard Pete start to describe it, I didn't understand. I get it now. Interesting that Pete chose Difficult To Cure. That actually started life with Graham Bonnet in the band. So, Joe Lynn Turner had to sing in a different way. I actually think that Down To Earth is a good example. It has the more commercial stuff, but then ends with Lost In Hollywood. To me, that sounds like a Ronnie era track. I agree with Martin's choice of Pyromania. I actually thought of that before he said it. To me, Pyromania still has the High N Dry sound, mixed with the commercial Hysteria sound. You even have Pete Willis on rhythm guitar, and his replacement Phil Collen playing leads. I actually thought of one with Queen. News Of The World. You have the more commercial tracks mixed with in with the experimental side of Sheer Heart Attack, Opera, and Races. That side is represented by songs like Who Needs You and My Meloncoly Blues. ...And Then There Were Three is the one for Genesis. To me, it has the sound of Trick and Wind, but more commercial. Here's one that wasn't mentioned: New Jersey by Bon Jovi. It has the "Hair Metal" sound of Slippery When Wet, but it also has hints of the mature sound of Keep The Faith(see songs like Blood On Blood and Homebound Train).
Cool stuff. Wonder if Martin has heard the new Ed Stasium mix of Tim? It's quite revealing.
Would ""The Headless Children"" by W.A.S.P. qualify?
For my money thats by far their best. A perfect metal album
Great Choice!!! That’s when WASP turned a corner.
Really interesting episode guys. Do you think the 2 Black albums would be Metallica and AC/DCs Goldilocks albums ?
Nurse by Therapy? Still has some of the Indy drum/bass dominant songs from their early EPS, but with songs like Nausea and Accelerator you get the more guitar dominant catchy stuff that will dominate Troublegum, Infernal Love and Semi-Detatched.
i wonder why the U.S changed the title of Judas Priest's 'Killing Machine' album here in the U.K. to 'Hell Bent For Leather'. Personally i prefer the U.K title. As for Nazareth i think Boogaloo started the band's rebirth back into their 70's sound.
J. Geils Band "Love Stinks" - The birth of skinny tie Geils!
Beatles - Revolver
Genesis - And Then there were Three
Pink Floyd - Saucer Full Of Secrets
Eagles Hotel California
Rush Grace Under Pressure
Thin Lizzy : Fighting is setting the band up for Jailbreak, Johnny the Fox, etc.
Pete certainly has said enough about Deep Purple In Rock, but this is the first album I thought of. Ritchie looks at what Page and Beck are doing and turns the band towards the much harder sound that takes them through Burn before the R&B/funk influence finally chases him off
Except In Rock really has nothing of their earlier sound…it’s kind of a jarring charge, which is why I didn’t pick it.
@@sotdude7 It certainly was. Definitely a sharp transitional record. Perhaps I don't fully comprehend the Goldilocks concept. Maybe a future topic - Albums that saw a band reinvent itself: The Revamp Record.