Every day I gain more appreciation for criminalists like Sherrie. Gut instincts can sometimes mislead detectives, but she and others in her office were diligent in handling evidence and revealed who they could connect to the scene. Great work!
So sad that a woman can't even go for a walk in broad daylight on her lunch hour without being sexually assaulted and murdered. What a world we live in.
@@wvmom2727 and @LisaS We are to encourage and help teach wisdom to one another. Both males and females are victims of assaults. Be a shining light. xo
Poor cathy. She was minding her own business walking in broad day light talking with husband when she was brutally murdered by an evil predator. Her poor son was grief stricken. My heart goes out to him. What was the motive in this case. This was a senseless murder. Great forensic work with the cigarette butts. It was also great that the forensic drawing yielded results. Condolences to the family and friends. Justice was served. Rest in peace cathy.
If only her friends had found her, they tried and did their best, it's just very sad. I think violent felons should do their sentences and not let out to hurt people again.
Death penalty for every first degree murderer. And that’s not even fair enough. Criminals get to go to a resort/playground where they meet new friends and the victim goes where? Why is justice a problem here? He’s asking what’s for breakfast, lunch and dinner everyday. Fair? Victims families should decide the killers fate, not the general public with their own fantasy beliefs.
@@MsBarryP I agree totally. Take a life or harm a child they forfeit thier own life. No need for tax payers to house feed and clothe and pay medical expense
@@emperorpatrisia5771 Australia is lost as a civilized country for women and children until you fix that. The U.S. is not much better right now, either. Even Australia and the UK used hanging during WWII.
Yes so true , the way the suspects father brutally beat him as a child , makes one think of the way Adolf Hitler's father Alois beat him brutally as a child also.
Because children (especially girls) are conditioned from a young age to follow the directive to establish committed relationships by a certain point in our lives. We're taught that marriage and children is what gives us our worth in society. As we get older, the pressure and expectations from all directions to marry and settle down increases, so some people in their desperation to please their families or "catch up" to their friends easily fall victim to the charm and manipulation of people like that killer.
The great narrator Peter Thomas was 86 years old by this time in the series and yet he hadn't changed an iota since the series started 14 years earlier, just a little more dramatic than in the early years. What an amazing gift he had. And when FF left the air he kept working until 2015, a year before his passing. Frazier is one of those I wish I could reach thru the screen and punch him in the nose the way he laughs at all of it. What a narcissist and a sicko. He got ticked because she ignored him.
Recently I was looking for the commercial Peter Thomas did for Coca-Cola with the actor who played Bobby Brady - never found it - but ran across an interview with Peter Thomas on an episode of Broadcast Biographies shown on RUclips. I watched that whole thing and it was really interesting. It was 55+ minutes long, but well worth the time to watch if you're interested.
@@johnnabuzby6103 Thank you I will look into that!! I also have some commercials compilation DVDs and he was in some. Easily recognizable. And of course the 1985 hit record "19" by Paul Hardcastle. Peter did an excellent job on that one.
The artist is drawing what each witness is telling him. He is not copying from his previous sketch. These artists take their job seriously as it often helps catch the criminal.
What I’ve learned from watching Forensic Files. If you’re a woman: - You can’t walk - You can’t run - You can’t go out - You can’t stay home - You can’t stay home alone - You can’t stay home with people - You can’t bake cookies - You can’t sleep! 😥
@@preciousstellamugawazi8888if you have to ask your man if he will kill you one day and if you’re afraid of that happening genuinely afraid then you probably picked the wrong man. 🥴
Yes I think it's the dog-eat-dog American culture, some people usually men perceive society as so heartless n random that if people don't care that he's homeless or a loser or whatever (Elliot Rodger comes to mind, the "incel killer") that people aren't worth anything to him. It's a totally senseless n despicable crime n i think death was a just solution.
So some men can't cope with society and kill others take them to prison or get rid of the. Or they can figure out that nonsense in their heads along with other inmates!
Some are born psychopaths. Some are made by their circumstances. I hope research can identify these people early on for intervention. They damage everyone in their path, even the non violent ones.
I have a sister who is narcissistic. I also have a brother in law with mental problems and has been in and out of jail for being very aggressive. The problem with both of these individuals is that they blame everyone else for their problems. Neither of them take responsibility for their actions and that is how they have ended up the way they have.
After seeing the blood streaks, it’s hard to understand how anyone missed that for 20+ minutes. No blame, just a very sad situation. I hope this family has found peace.
"There are no coincidences like that, doesn't happen in my experience". "Anyone with the cell phone of the person killed is linked to the murder". Oh wait....... it wasn't him. Oh, he's committed suicide? .... doh. Can't help but wonder the amount of pressure they put on the guy who didn't do it.......
i don't understand the police and the community being surprised about someone geting killed walkng through a park filled with transients and homeless people....
@@speakerz74 Keep in mind, this was back in 2003. But obviously you have quite a bit of experience in the exciting and successful world of telemarketing, given your picture.
Yeah, I get that the “independent witnesses” didn’t know each other, and they described a similar looking person (except for the sunglasses ha ha) but they BOTH did speak to the SAME artist. If each “independent witness” had described the guy to a different sketch artist……now THAT would be impressive!!
The police dog tracked to the wrong house?? Yet another hit on the reliability of dog evidence. Kudos to the police for continuing to work hard on the case until it was solved.
@@annahayes1007I guess the dog went to the correct house because the killer accompanied him and later killed him as that guy witnessed him killing her. Sad that guy's death went as a suicide. No one worried why it happened at that time.
You had a great voice Thomas The 3 witnesses identified Mark as the suspect later they found it's a different man Forensic science is the best compared to witnesses.
Yeah, he also did not resemble either sketch to me personally... Very sad that this man was out there thinking of suicide as another was commiting homicide. You never know what's going on with the people walking right next to you.
Yep. We should maybe form a non profit recovery program, cause I've severely relapsed on this show over the past 20 some odd years. It can't be mentally healthy!! 🤔😣
If he would have killed himself less then 24 hours after the murder how the hell you gonna find a newspaper about the crime with the two drawings ??? 🤔
That poor man (Mark Fisher) they witnessed at the park was looking for a place to die. Very sad that this man was out there thinking of suicide as another was committing homicide.
I think he probably walked alonged the path, possibly came across the body, and based on the sketch thought police might pin the murder on him...if it wasn't for forensics, the case would've ended there.
The whole time I was like the likeness did not look like mark Fisher and cops say they dont believe in consequences. How about now just goes to show why they all get tunnel vision so easily .
K-9 units have sometimes less than 50% accuracy. Meaning, if the humans around the animal are feeding it an energy that they WANT a certain result, then the animal will indicate a response that it thinks will get it a reward/praise.
If you’re interested in reading more about the problem and the proposed solutions, please look up “Lisa Lit” and her study on detection-dogs. She was a detection-dog handler who noticed a similarity between the modern police dog problem and a 20th century horse named “Clever Hans”. (There’s a great Wikipedia article on him LOL)
Dude off'd himself in his own world not even knowing detectives were gonna make his own life even more uncomfortable by treating him as a #1 suspect he had nothing to do with.... no wonder dude jumped from the golden state bridge... mans got drawn the short end of the stick. RIP
Because the composite drawing was another man. That man committed suicide 24 hours after the murder. He jumped off the golden gate bridge. If you paid attention to the story, his DNA was not a match to the murderer.
@@robinmccoy7353 i thought it was that the drawing was of the murderer, and the police incorrectly identified the guy who killed himself to be the murderer based on the drawing and on witness descriptions, but were proven wrong by the DNA.
@@virg0_lem0nade yes, you are correct, and then the cyclist id'd the real murderer from the sketch. The sketch definitely did look a lot like the guy that killed himself and not like the murderer. I hope that isn't why he did it because he thought he would be blamed for it. Someone a bit slow or paranoid might think that.
@9:30 - if that’s the actual photo lineup- it’s terribly biased. “Their” suspect’s - the guy “they felt strongly” about-pic sticks out like a neon sign. All pics are to be the same- same size, background, color, lighting, etc.
It is so unbelievably sad that women are being killed every 10 seconds. That's a pandemic! It's as if we shld all be locked n loaded everywhere we go-To bed or even while jogging geez. R.i.p.
Being religious means nothing. I know plenty evil and vile beings that call themselves religious or christian. What he did to her should be done to him.
With all that overwhelming evidence why even interview/talk to the guy. Just charge him and lock him up and save putting up with all the bs out of their mouth.
Because they'd be required to take it to trial. Getting them to confess doesn't negate the need for a trial, but certainly makes it more likely they will forgo one.
The detective puts all three cigarette butts in the same envelope. That’s not proper protocol as you potentially mix DNA. One cigarette per collection bag......
Good call. But it doesn't really matter in the long run, because these types of killers are never really punished anyway. They are always allowed to live at taxpayer's expense for the rest of their natural lives. ALWAYS.
that poor husband, imagine being on the phone right before your wife is killed
Sad
So sad
I thought that too. That was the last thing her heard his wife say.
That clip of the murderer being interviewed, describing Kathy, smiling and being light-hearted, was just chilling.
Yeah that dude is a peace for real.
He laughed about it. A real low life.
He did this crime so casually it cannot be his first time .
Every day I gain more appreciation for criminalists like Sherrie. Gut instincts can sometimes mislead detectives, but she and others in her office were diligent in handling evidence and revealed who they could connect to the scene. Great work!
Her poor husband. Can you imagine being so helpless.
plot twist the husband hired the guy duh duh dunnn j/k
@@waterfalrain oh how hilarious to “j/k” about a brutal rape and murder.
@@traceeteeter9875 ok slap me now j/k
@@waterfalrain I seriously wish I could. NOT kidding.
Her son still looks extremely heartbroken, sad
So sad that a woman can't even go for a walk in broad daylight on her lunch hour without being sexually assaulted and murdered. What a world we live in.
Amen to that
There are a couple of hundred million females in this country and the vast majority go wherever they want for lunch, without being assaulted.
@@bradpanter6559 This woman couldn't and she isn't the only one this has happened to. If you're a victim, statistics are cold comfort.
@@bradpanter6559 what a ‘male’ thing to say. 🙄
@@wvmom2727 and @LisaS We are to encourage and help teach wisdom to one another. Both males and females are victims of assaults. Be a shining light. xo
Poor cathy. She was minding her own business walking in broad day light talking with husband when she was brutally murdered by an evil predator.
Her poor son was grief stricken. My heart goes out to him.
What was the motive in this case. This was a senseless murder.
Great forensic work with the cigarette butts. It was also great that the forensic drawing yielded results.
Condolences to the family and friends.
Justice was served.
Rest in peace cathy.
This man was so cold!!! Omg! I remember this episode, too! Out in broad daylight and in public like that! Like, wow!!
Yea….you know this wasn’t his first.
I walk daily, in the middle of the day, and never think twice. I will now.
Peter Thomas what a voice what an excellent pronunciation, RIP
He stills lives through these Shows just a thought 🤦🏽♀️❤️
Omg! I didn't know he died!!
In 4-30-2016, he was 91 years old! What a long life! I'm glad we all got the chance to enjoy some of his work.
I'm so sick of hearing about Saint Peter Thomas
Monsters are real, and they are in human form.
Normal adults don’t share freaking toothbrushes!
those who share toothbrushes might share condoms too......
If only her friends had found her, they tried and did their best, it's just very sad. I think violent felons should do their sentences and not let out to hurt people again.
Death penalty for every first degree murderer. And that’s not even fair enough. Criminals get to go to a resort/playground where they meet new friends and the victim goes where? Why is justice a problem here? He’s asking what’s for breakfast, lunch and dinner everyday. Fair? Victims families should decide the killers fate, not the general public with their own fantasy beliefs.
@@MsBarryP I agree totally. Take a life or harm a child they forfeit thier own life. No need for tax payers to house feed and clothe and pay medical expense
If this happened in Australia, the felon would get a pitiful sentence of a few years WITH parole.
@@MsBarryP They should be put down like vermin. They are not humans, they are sewage.
@@emperorpatrisia5771 Australia is lost as a civilized country for women and children until you fix that. The U.S. is not much better right now, either. Even Australia and the UK used hanging during WWII.
…AMAZING…two witnesses who never met and the sketches were virtually identical…(done by the same sketch artist) geeze
Lol I am reading through ur lines, so much shade haha
TAKE YOUR SARCASTIC SHITE ELSEWHERE YOU TROLL
He drew sketches from other eyewitnesses also, they only draw what’s being described to them
I’m so fucking glad someone else brought this up😂😂 I paused the video
“The fuck you just say to me💀”
One toothbrush contained DNA from 3 people? Is sharing a toothbrush something that people do? Honest question as this sounds nasty to me.
Sounds nasty to me too.
*Couples share toothbrushes...which is disgusting enough but three people* 🤢
It’s very gross…
Disgusting !!!!!😲😖🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
couples do... like a lot of them do.
This is a disturbing murder, but I am just as disturbed by the fact that there were possibly three people using the same toothbrush
menage a trois !!!! 😆😆😂😂😂😂
🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Most likely touched other brushes in the holder…
Or dispensed from the same toothpaste tube, as one does.
yes, cheap and vulgar..... cheap and vulgar.
This was a brutal , senseless crime ! RIP Cathy 💔
All Rapes Are Brutal .
Yes so true , the way the suspects father brutally beat him as a child , makes one think of the way Adolf Hitler's father Alois beat him brutally as a child also.
@@timmyjones1921 I had the shit beat out of me as a kid, but I didn’t grow up and slaughter 6 million people.
For me all crimes are senseless.
MONA *Kathy
How the hell these killers have girlfriends, WTF!
So this is their extracurricular activities???!!!
That always floors me with each instalment. HOW??
Not only that- those girlfriends also get pregnant by these animals and create lil monsters it's horrible
Because children (especially girls) are conditioned from a young age to follow the directive to establish committed relationships by a certain point in our lives. We're taught that marriage and children is what gives us our worth in society.
As we get older, the pressure and expectations from all directions to marry and settle down increases, so some people in their desperation to please their families or "catch up" to their friends easily fall victim to the charm and manipulation of people like that killer.
The generosity of women never ceases to amaze me
There's a saying there is someone for everyone. Even convicted felons still manage to find partners via "pen pals".
I don’t understand how any man can enjoy himself on a woman then kill her, how you can enjoy a woman who doesn’t want you.
The great narrator Peter Thomas was 86 years old by this time in the series and yet he hadn't changed an iota since the series started 14 years earlier, just a little more dramatic than in the early years. What an amazing gift he had. And when FF left the air he kept working until 2015, a year before his passing.
Frazier is one of those I wish I could reach thru the screen and punch him in the nose the way he laughs at all of it. What a narcissist and a sicko. He got ticked because she ignored him.
Recently I was looking for the commercial Peter Thomas did for Coca-Cola with the actor who played Bobby Brady - never found it - but ran across an interview with Peter Thomas on an episode of Broadcast Biographies shown on RUclips. I watched that whole thing and it was really interesting. It was 55+ minutes long, but well worth the time to watch if you're interested.
@@johnnabuzby6103 Thank you I will look into that!! I also have some commercials compilation DVDs and he was in some. Easily recognizable. And of course the 1985 hit record "19" by Paul Hardcastle. Peter did an excellent job on that one.
She wasn't stalked or planned in advance,she was just at the wrong place at wrong time to catch a predators eye.
HE IS COLD AS ICE...WHO THE HELL LAUGHS IN A MURDER INTERROGATION!!??
8:50- I agree that two witnesses saw the same face, but let’s also remember: the same artist is drawing both faces.
That’s what I was thinking! Thanks for the articulation.
The artist is drawing what each witness is telling him. He is not copying from his previous sketch. These artists take their job seriously as it often helps catch the criminal.
The artist drew many more pictures than the ones you see on the program,he only drew what the eyewitnesses told him that they saw
What I’ve learned from watching Forensic Files. If you’re a woman:
- You can’t walk
- You can’t run
- You can’t go out
- You can’t stay home
- You can’t stay home alone
- You can’t stay home with people
- You can’t bake cookies
- You can’t sleep! 😥
You can do whatever you want, you just have to be properly prepared for each situation.
Very true I always ask my man,, will you kill me one day? I'm scared of my life
The fear is real, something men can’t possibly understand 😢
@@preciousstellamugawazi8888if you have to ask your man if he will kill you one day and if you’re afraid of that happening genuinely afraid then you probably picked the wrong man. 🥴
@@paulettern9913Men get murdered too you know!
It always matters why someone becomes a monster. We need to know why so we can work toward preventing such monsters from being made monsters.
Yes I think it's the dog-eat-dog American culture, some people usually men perceive society as so heartless n random that if people don't care that he's homeless or a loser or whatever (Elliot Rodger comes to mind, the "incel killer") that people aren't worth anything to him. It's a totally senseless n despicable crime n i think death was a just solution.
So some men can't cope with society and kill others take them to prison or get rid of the.
Or they can figure out that nonsense in their heads along with other inmates!
@@nononsense5182 huh?
Some are born psychopaths. Some are made by their circumstances. I hope research can identify these people early on for intervention. They damage everyone in their path, even the non violent ones.
I have a sister who is narcissistic. I also have a brother in law with mental problems and has been in and out of jail for being very aggressive. The problem with both of these individuals is that they blame everyone else for their problems. Neither of them take responsibility for their actions and that is how they have ended up the way they have.
the guy in the composite looks 100 lbs heavier than fisher
Ladies be careful stay alert
How about you warn men to stop harming and killing women instead?
After seeing the blood streaks, it’s hard to understand how anyone missed that for 20+ minutes. No blame, just a very sad situation. I hope this family has found peace.
Another crime that needs solving is who were the three people who used one toothbrush.
The guy who took and used the cellphone instead of turning it into lost and found also gave off major creep vibes.
He was such a total creep.
@@MrsDetroit622 I have to say, that picture they showed of him looked like a mug shot.
"There are no coincidences like that, doesn't happen in my experience". "Anyone with the cell phone of the person killed is linked to the murder". Oh wait....... it wasn't him. Oh, he's committed suicide? .... doh. Can't help but wonder the amount of pressure they put on the guy who didn't do it.......
What a monster!? I really feel for her husband. I can't imagine.
This is infuriating!! A good woman with so much going for her and so much positive to bring to the world is taken out by a low life predator.
i don't understand the police and the community being surprised about someone geting killed walkng through a park filled with transients and homeless people....
My prayer's go out for the family
So satisfying when you hear the verdict. That guy was a monster.
Nice comment. You seem like a great person. Have a nice day🌷
He has a woman why
He is crazy, he misses Jail , 3 squares meals and a free coat I am glad he found and paid for the 2 lives I am sorry for the guy who killed himself
@@midrennelubin9433 *square
Only _one_ telemarketing firm in a city in NorCal. That's pretty amazing even for back then.
One in Walnut Creek, not all of northern California.
@@emilyjones7724 Like I said, one firm in a city in NorCal.
telemarketing is done over the phone and online so most don't need a physical location. making this comment pretty unremarkable, js
@@speakerz74 Keep in mind, this was back in 2003. But obviously you have quite a bit of experience in the exciting and successful world of telemarketing, given your picture.
2003 is "back then"? Yall are children with no perspective.
I love it when the narrator says: Marry with Children. My first thought was the comedy show with Al Bundy back in the late 80 to 90’s.
Me too!!
All these light sentences keep these monsters on the streets. What do they expect?
Yeah, I get that the “independent witnesses” didn’t know each other, and they described a similar looking person (except for the sunglasses ha ha) but they BOTH did speak to the SAME artist.
If each “independent witness” had described the guy to a different sketch artist……now THAT would be impressive!!
Not only that, but the composites looked nothing like Frasier
@@WalkerRileyMC yes they did; but they looked nothing like the first guy who committed suicide.
3 peoples DNA on ONE toothbrush??????
It's a sad world when a woman can't even go for a walk on her lunchbreak.
I was just going to write this.
@@dianerohadfox7324 walking in the woods isn't wise.
In a way hes right because you dont know whos hiding out there
They never explained why the second suspect unalived himself.
Is he also still sitting on death row? Many of these monsters get the death penalty but are never put to death
Yes, still in San Quentin State Prison. The largest prison in the U.S for condemned men.
The police dog tracked to the wrong house?? Yet another hit on the reliability of dog evidence. Kudos to the police for continuing to work hard on the case until it was solved.
I have a huge sense of appreciation for law enforcement
why the hell the K9 went straight to that guy's house?
Exactly. That's puzzling.🤔
Maybe he saw the crime, checked on the woman, or simply saw the body, took a look, and in either scenario, then walked home?
@@annahayes1007 Thank you. That is plausible. 👍
@@annahayes1007I guess the dog went to the correct house because the killer accompanied him and later killed him as that guy witnessed him killing her. Sad that guy's death went as a suicide. No one worried why it happened at that time.
I have hung out with him for 5 years as a teen in Tinley park ,IL he lived in Orland park / across the street ! The dude was never rite in the head
lou antonucci *right
All darkness will someday come to light; thank God!
You had a great voice Thomas
The 3 witnesses identified Mark as the suspect later they found it's a different man
Forensic science is the best compared to witnesses.
Yup eye witness is almost never reliable
That poor man they witnessed at the park was looking for a place to die
Good point.
Yeah, he also did not resemble either sketch to me personally...
Very sad that this man was out there thinking of suicide as another was commiting homicide. You never know what's going on with the people walking right next to you.
@@O2BAmachine *committing
@@O2BAmachine it's not called "California" for nothing, you know.
I’m sorry that happened to her, doing exercises in her break I used to do the same thing
All these newly posted shows!! My drug of choice . 😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I know right!! Peter Thomas lives on
Peter Thomas is tucking me in🥱
Yep. We should maybe form a non profit recovery program, cause I've severely relapsed on this show over the past 20 some odd years. It can't be mentally healthy!! 🤔😣
Let's just call it Rape not sexual assault
Because there is more than one type of sexual assault, not only rape.
If he would have killed himself less then 24 hours after the murder how the hell you gonna find a newspaper about the crime with the two drawings ??? 🤔
Why did Mark Fisher simply commit suicide?? And why did the K9 went to his house??? Lots of unanswered questions.
Gang bang
That poor man (Mark Fisher) they witnessed at the park was looking for a place to die. Very sad that this man was out there thinking of suicide as another was committing homicide.
Maybe he saw the crime, checked on the woman, or simply saw the body, took a look, and in either scenario, then walked home...
..Golden Gate bridge.
I think he probably walked alonged the path, possibly came across the body, and based on the sketch thought police might pin the murder on him...if it wasn't for forensics, the case would've ended there.
Interesting these psychopaths always have a girlfriend?
yeah when you have none. lol
Part of being a psychopath is successfully living a double life, that of boyfriend and that of killer.
Okay… but why were there 3 different DNA profiles on his toothbrush? 🤢🤢🤢
Disgusting!
Had this been back in the day, Sanchez would've been jailed. They would have thought open and shut case
Imagine 20 years from now how technology will help solve cases like this
CCTV will be everywhere
I don't mean to insult anyone but people need to pay attention to their surroundings. Perverted murderers look like normal people.
i agree
But who Are u offending lol
Death penalty carried out within 90 days or less. No other discussion is necessary.
Women can't even take walks alone anymore..mad world
The whole time I was like the likeness did not look like mark Fisher and cops say they dont believe in consequences. How about now just goes to show why they all get tunnel vision so easily .
Because the composite drawing turned out to not be the killer.
So why the other guy killed himself
K-9 units have sometimes less than 50% accuracy. Meaning, if the humans around the animal are feeding it an energy that they WANT a certain result, then the animal will indicate a response that it thinks will get it a reward/praise.
If you’re interested in reading more about the problem and the proposed solutions, please look up “Lisa Lit” and her study on detection-dogs. She was a detection-dog handler who noticed a similarity between the modern police dog problem and a 20th century horse named “Clever Hans”. (There’s a great Wikipedia article on him LOL)
@@midrennelubin9433 He was already tortured, suicidal and the drawing in the paper was the push he had to kill himself.
And as backassward as California can be thank goodness they still have the good common sense to maintain capital punishment.
This line implies the significance of advanced medical forensics
"If this happened 20 years ago, fredger would get away with it"
The murder clearance rate is low today .. and in cities such as Chicago it's it VERY low
Look into it
The lady that interviewed said all she cared about was her routine being interrupted I guess the killer killed the wrong one
wtf is wrong with you? why would you wish death on somebody? you're a horrible person.
ok next time I go jog at my river trail I'm taking pepper spray or my blade
And my well trained Rottweiler! 😅
Dude off'd himself in his own world not even knowing detectives were gonna make his own life even more uncomfortable by treating him as a #1 suspect he had nothing to do with.... no wonder dude jumped from the golden state bridge... mans got drawn the short end of the stick. RIP
Damn awful the last sound you heard about your wife was when she was struck!
Sniffer dogs are great!!! 😅
As of 5-August-2024 California Supreme court upheld the conviction and death sentence of Robert Ward Frazier.
Scary stuff!
i'm a fan of this channel.🥰
why did the other guy committed suicide?
What’s weird is he didn’t look like the drawing
If you squint your eyes he does. Lol
it's not "weird" actually because it's a drawing done by someone who never saw him. suspect drawings are usually not very accurate.
Because the composite drawing was another man. That man committed suicide 24 hours after the murder. He jumped off the golden gate bridge. If you paid attention to the story, his DNA was not a match to the murderer.
@@robinmccoy7353 i thought it was that the drawing was of the murderer, and the police incorrectly identified the guy who killed himself to be the murderer based on the drawing and on witness descriptions, but were proven wrong by the DNA.
@@virg0_lem0nade yes, you are correct, and then the cyclist id'd the real murderer from the sketch. The sketch definitely did look a lot like the guy that killed himself and not like the murderer. I hope that isn't why he did it because he thought he would be blamed for it. Someone a bit slow or paranoid might think that.
The sketches never look like the suspect
@9:30 - if that’s the actual photo lineup- it’s terribly biased. “Their” suspect’s - the guy “they felt strongly” about-pic sticks out like a neon sign. All pics are to be the same- same size, background, color, lighting, etc.
Did anyone notice the guy who took the phone is the same on acting it out?
Three people all used that one tooth brush, disgusting!
It is so unbelievably sad that women are being killed every 10 seconds. That's a pandemic! It's as if we shld all be locked n loaded everywhere we go-To bed or even while jogging geez. R.i.p.
He's been on death row now for 16 years (as of 2022), so that death penalty has not been carried out to date.
Thanks for the update
Sorry for your loss mate❤
The sketches don’t really look like the evil dude that did it. Glad they still found him and glad he’s getting the needle
I had that cell phone in college from about 2001-2003.
Being religious means nothing. I know plenty evil and vile beings that call themselves religious or christian. What he did to her should be done to him.
With all that overwhelming evidence why even interview/talk to the guy. Just charge him and lock him up and save putting up with all the bs out of their mouth.
Because they'd be required to take it to trial. Getting them to confess doesn't negate the need for a trial, but certainly makes it more likely they will forgo one.
Because his own mouth dug him into a deeper hole
No conscious, no remorse.
Thanks~
The detective puts all three cigarette butts in the same envelope. That’s not proper protocol as you potentially mix DNA. One cigarette per collection bag......
that’s because the dna is inside the butt and they will still be able to identify what dna belongs to each cigarette butt
Good call. But it doesn't really matter in the long run, because these types of killers are never really punished anyway. They are always allowed to live at taxpayer's expense for the rest of their natural lives. ALWAYS.
What do you mean
It's literally just for demonstration purposes. This is a TV show remember?
This isn't a documentary like The first 48. These are recreations. All for dramatic purposes...smh
I STOPPED MEETING GUYS ONLINE AND GOING ON DATES BECAUSE OF THIS SHOW..MAKES ME PARANOID
stay away from strange toothbrushes too.
this shows also makes me as a guy paranoid of women like u online..that's why I just meet broads who get wasted at bars now. much safer and classier.
Cheers up, it has been for long without hearing death sentence.
How do these monsters live without a conscious?
The same way WE live with one.
each cigarette butt should be collected seperately...NOT all tossed in the same evidence bag !!
agreed!
It. Is. A. TV. Show.
You wanna whine about protocol? Go watch CSI. Keep you busy for hours.
Sad.
Frazier killed Lorick for nothing
the guy's sketch beside his looked more like the drawing to me.
multiple people using the same toothbrush !! GROSS !
something doesn't add up here...