This video made me realize that I hadn't removed the plastic layer on my 55'' LG OLED, which caused it to be 500% more glossy/reflective than it actually is... I've had it for 4 months
@@sinephase To be fair, the screen is delivered with two red fleeks on each corner (Can be seen at 00:20). As the naive person I am, I assumed that if I pull on those, the plastic covering the screen would come off. To my surprise and annoyment, the fleeks came right off, nothing else. The plastic layer was so well integrated with the screen I was afraid it was a part of the screen, and didn't dare to try and pull it off. Even after seeing Parker Walbeck pull it off I was hessitant to try.
Notice how he talk at 6:19 that _LG OLED are used as reference monitor and no burning issues_ - why on Earth reference monitor may have burning issues? Nobody sits 10h a day editing video on reference monitor. Rtings test on RUclips show how severe burning may be.
The reason why you don't see burn in on reference Oled tv's for color grading is because no one uses Premiere for color grading. They use Davinci resolve or similar with a dedicated output card that only output's the image and not any UI elements. If you use static elements on an OLED tv you WILL eventually see burn in. I've seen it myself. If you want a large tv for working in that manner get anything but OLED. However I can say OLED is fantastic if used solely as a reference monitor.
András Muresán it’s a shame really. I understand that people need to make money, but I’m losing a lot of respect for Parker with this review. Imagine if someone followed his advice and bought an expensive OLED specifically to use it the way Parker did. Imagine their frustration a year afterwards when their investment is flushed down the drain from burn-in (which is not covered under warranty).
In regards to burn-in : My LG Oled 2017 has tons of burn-ins (starting after just a couple months). I had my PC connected to it from day 1, so.... That RUclips logo on the left top -> that stays there whatever I watch now. That RUclips subscribe button -> yup... you guessed it... right there whatever I watch. Desktop icons and bars -> also there! Neflix Logo after browsing which films to watch -> right in my face whatever I watch. Amazing TV for sure, but I will never ever use it for anything else than watching films/series (when I buy my next one). And yes, I tried pixel-refresh and had all options to reduce burn-in ON from the first second.
uploade a pic /video of that thx. not great, im sure the 2019 model is handeling it better and how u got youbue icons on there do u watch youtube all day?? u know u have to let your tv breathe whit giving it breaks and refresh pixels right, whitch can be done via the menu
@@henrikandersen4777 Had the burn-ins relatively fast. I think within half a year already. I did a couple of "refreshes" and it did work a bit in the beginning. Now the burn-ins are here to stay. :( RUclips 3 hours a day at average. PC around 5 hours. Very bright colors (red, pink, orange) are also visible for like a minute, if they are displayed for just a few seconds. To be honest, I wasn't aware of O-leds burning in, until it was already too late.
@@ozzman8 I got my C8 last year. Definitely amazing. As a Music Producer myself though, I'd keep thinking that there's a higher chance of image retention because of the static displays (sequence window, virtual instruments, mixers, etc). It's not just a HUD like a game. I'd be hesitant to use it as a monitor for Producing, but it would be pretty crazy to Produce on one of these once in a while.
It will take only a few months for the burn in to be permanent. On my Oled the first time I ran pixel refresher it solved the burn in. After like 8 months of use I ran it again but this time it didn't solve anything. It is impossible to use an Oled as pc monitor, it will be destroyed in 6 months.
Sad thing is that its not usable on editing. I destroyed one 2019 OLED TV that way. The burning in is a real problem and it will happen. It took only 3 months to destroy it. Much better choice IS QLED TV. So no thanks to you and your recommending OLED for editing...
I use it as a feed monitor and I hide the task bar until the mouse goes over it, there is no burn in that way. It’s only when you leave something on the screen for hrs daily that burn in will happen, like any expensive toy, you must take extra care of it
@@TechWiz1983 I mean the 55" LG B9 is $1100 new. On Black Friday it'll drop below $1000. That's expensive, but a pretty crazy deal when you think about a 55" 4k 120hz GSync monitor with great color accuracy.
@@TechWiz1983 bankrupcy? Lmao samsungs q90r costs even more then this oled screen. Who would've thought that samsung would be more pricey then Lg's oled lol
type in rtings.com oled burn in test on youtube or google (video or written review) took about 5 years of 20 hours per day of news channel running to show burn-in. thats a 2014 model of OLED though. they tested two tv's running games as well for 2 years (check review for exact hours), and no burn-in so far on the 2017 models. so depending on what the use it, the burn-in is either realistic or blown-up online. as a tv monitor all day use, i can tell you with my non-professional advice, dont get the TV for that use. for sofa use with pc connected and varied content or picture, sure. that will be okay.
Burn in is not BS, I thought it was, now I have it. I've had a 2017 65" OLED B7 as primary monitor for almost 3 years now. Windows Start and taskbar icons and some desktop icons have burned in slightly. I've had to enable a 1 minute screen saver (funny this is what they were designed for decades ago), and "auto hide" my task bar which I HATE. Pixel refresher doesn't do anything, and screen shift just makes your maximized windows render off screen slightly and its annoying. Be aware! If you don't believe me I will sell you my OLED, I want a new one now with Gsync, but this time I will be more cautious of burn in. It seems bright colored icons and images burn in faster than everything else. Other than that, this is a legit option for PC, even gaming. I am a software engineer and use it for coding mostly, but lots of gaming. Make sure to rename your input to "PC" as there is internal code in firmware to reduce input lag even more.
@@caonima323 4 to 5 feet away. My TV is on an entertainment piece with a fake fireplace under it. I have what I call a floating desk in my office. I can fold it up and put it aside so I can have VR space.
@@ds-1111 Compared with VR glasses, do you think this 65-inch screen can be compared with VR glasses？ Before the ecological maturity of VR glasses software, is it the best virtual reality solution to use TV as a display ？I want to vertically erect three televisions to form a virtual reality space ，Connect the 3 55 inch TV with the computer
Notice how he talk at 6:19 that _LG OLED are used as reference monitor and no burning issues_ - why on Earth reference monitor may have burning issues? Nobody sits 10h a day editing video on reference monitor. Rtings test on RUclips show how severe burning may be.
21:9 is better for video editing. After using about 2 years of ultrawide, i think it is better aspect ratio :) We must wait 42+ curved 21:9. p.s. Sony have the best TV quality.
Not necessarily. A smaller 4k 16:9 actually has more screen real estate than a larger 1440p ultrawide. It may feel like you have more at first, but in practice you are just losing screen real estate.
@@LondonWater It is not an issue of image quality. Video editing is a very heavy process (just from the human resource perspective) in terms of time consumption and precision. Having a living as a video editor, which is the only thing that justifies buying a TV for video editing (unless you are a rich-or very strong enthusiast), is not about applying a filter to a video and letting a top-of-the-line GPU do its job, or just doing a crop and many other stuff that lots of people can do from a home. Video editing is a science. It is impossible to check frames for a 2 hour video (say a wedding + gathering footage) in such a close distance with such a huge screen. Your eyes will bleed. Also, image quality cannot be assessed properly when you are so close. Nobody watches TV from a less than a meter distance. That way, you cannot put yourself in the place of your customer properly. Do not desire something you are not sure you are going to like in the first place people. Be aware that marketing practices are intrusive and appeal as the perfect choice and only in maximum potential conditions, which is hardly ever the case. Best regards.
@@Anyfantis0 He's watching from two meters away.... I use a 32" and a 27" monitor stacked to grade on the daily at under a meter away. I agree 65" might be a little big, but not a ton bigger than my setup currently. Especially sitting that far away. Plus his viewport isn't the whole 65" when editing. If he's doing fullscreen checks he probably just scoots back. I'm heavily debating picking up a 55" OLED to replace my stack.
@@FTGTapGod I am using an ultrawide 34" and it is big enough for anything. Having a 32" and a 27" is a totally different approach than a 65" monitor. 65 inches are absolutely unusable. Also, your argument about 2 meters distance is just laughable. Are you saying that within the uploader and the monitor a 2meter person can lie horizontally? Not even if he squeezes like a snake lol
Parker, definitely a sweet setup! My wife and I are always talking about the best ways to upgrade our setup and increase the best workflow. This is definitely valuable information. Furthermore, I love LG! I used to work for T-Mobile call center in their business department selling a good number of LG tablets & phones helping businesses with a better workflow. Anyways, I've been a fan of their tech (washer/dryer, tv's, phones) for a long time. Love this video!
Ben no, there is actually no reason for that. He could have just exported the video in this cropped format, so you could watch it on your full screen on for example iPhone X, but he exporters the blackbars
Jamie Fenn I highly doubt it. If it was, then everyone and their grandmother in the professional color correcting/grading world would use it. I’m sure there is a lot of light bleed and inconsistent gamma levels throughout the screen (some parts are darker or lighter than others).
@@Ben-fq1lj Thats what I thought. Im honestly kind of surprised that he made a video on this and Im confused why he would use this for his professional work? Maybe its just sponsor influenced?
Hi Parker, I'm interested to know if working at home affects you at all? I've been trying to seperate home and work life, as I found it was affecting my productivity, mood and sleep. Any tips?
Get a specific room for work, and only for that if possible. This help to get a separated environment of work and also letting know to other people (wife, kids) that if you're in the room, you're not available.
I got the same tv a few months back while I was in new Zealand and set it up when I got back to my house in Tennessee. It's definitely quite an experience turning it on for the first time and going and finding some 4k or even 8k hdr footage to put on it. and even crazier once I set up my 5.1 surround system and play some 4k blurays on it, some with dolby vision and some without. one in particular, blade runner 2049, absolutely blew me away. Especially watching it in a pitch black room. One of the best things ive seen on any display. I don't even go to the cinema anymore, I usually just wait till the blurays or I go to a dolby cinema if I really want to see the movie.
I have a c8 that I decided would be cool as a computer monitor and now there is a permanent RUclips play button in the top left corner, permanent HUD from all my games that have one, and permanent aiming reticle in the center which makes for some sweet quick scopes. Now I have the Alienware OLED. We'll see how that goes.
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I don't understand why he was calling it a myth when it is something that is very well known to happen since the inception of oleds. Lost a little bit of respect for this guy
literally was joking with my dad to use LG Oled TV as a monitor...since there is no OLED monitor and it removes the need for multiple screens. Also going to have gsync...to game...haha
I just got my OLED panel replaced. This is real folks. If you leave a static image on high panel brightness settings (on a bright, summer day for example) for couple of hours - the panel gets it. Mine burned my cyberpunk wallpaper and taskbar icons in :...( Keep the brightness at minimum and use screensavers. To test your panel, check out this site: deadpixelbuddy.com/
13ms input lag really shouldn't cause any substantial video to audio cutting issues in 24p. Each frame on a 24p timeline covers over 40ms of time. (And almost 17ms even in a 60p timeline) .
hmmm i wonder if LG will finally realize we need 32" versions of the new C10 OLED tv's for monitors? they already released a 48" which is sold out everywhere.
Plot gave it a shot, 5 episodes in and I just don’t get it, it’s dumb to me lol Feel like I am wasting my time watching that show and replying to this comment.
I picked up an LG OLED last year and it’s honestly a fantastic purchase. Yes editing is amazing, but watching everything on it is incredible. Gaming is unreal, and HDR content is mind blowing. I went with the 55” and have zero regrets.
Love my C7 and I might go C9 to replace my gaming monitor once the high refresh rate PS5 comes out. I have a suggestion on your Mac setup. If you extend displays, instead of duplicating, you'll free up more GPU power.
Take USB with your videos and play in the shop. Look on dark scenes since they will be just "black". If you like this, it's OK, if no, need to wait next 5 years.
I totally get editing on an OLED for colour accuracy, but considering everyone else just has standard LED monitors, or even projectors... surely this will negatively affect the overall render?
@@Lee-xs4dj oled doesn't necessarily mean accurate colour was actually my point. As in if you're editing colour and contrast to suit an oled, how will that look to the everyday user?
@@Lee-xs4dj my original comment was a question not a statement. I was asking a question about oleds and colour accuracy/gamma etc. Taken from Google: 709/sRGB. This is challenging for existing display technologies and content producers alike. Leading OLED displays that can reproduce up to 96 - 98% of DCI-P3 can replicate a maximum of 75% of Rec. ... 2020 coverage with unmatched peak brightness and color purity across up to 83% of Rec. Just because Netflix uses them to colour grade doesn't mean EVERY SINGLE oled is colour accurate out the box. If you want to he them for editing you'll need to properly calibrate them, like any existing monitor. But there will be oleds that simply don't cover enough of the rec709 or rec2020 colour space. So don't just buy an oled thinking "must be colour accurate"
@@Lee-xs4dj as an audio engineer myself, most of us check our mixes on apple air pods and even the built in phone or lap top speakers before finishing our mixes. It would make no sense to NOT check your mixes on the platform that MOST people are using. Although we only really use these things at the end of the mixing process just to double check and make final adjustments. I'm sure this same concept can be used in video editing. It wouldn't hurt to edit on a OLED as colors are more accurate, but I think you should also check on LED's, which should be easy to do on a multi monitor setup. Also some apple phones have OLED displays now.
Nothing poor about their durability! If you were referring to burn-in, you're likely worrying about something that is not going to be an issue for 99% of people who vary the content they watch.
Rob Pi unfortunately I’m that 1% and besides that OLED TVs are generally paper thin glass surfaces, that freaks me out as well it looks cool but is a lot more fragile than normal TVs
@@Usaji_ Haha! Fair enough then. What is your use case? Do you use it as a PC monitor? I agree the thinness of the screen can make them appear fragile but I have transported the LGC7 in the back of a car (to new house) and also wall mounted the LGC9 (numerous times we had to take the TV down and adjust measurements etc) and neither of them have shown any signs of damage.
Rob Pi I mostly play games in my dawn time for 5h straight, that and I’ve seen people recommending to not let anything paused on the tv, I really don’t need a new thing to worry about in life haha
Now don’t get me wrong. I like Parker. And I like your videos. I even joined full time filmmaker a couple months back and paid that whopping $800 price tag. But I realized you’re the best when you said the office is the best show on earth. Now you’re my true role model 😂
You know what else is beautiful? Selling your soul for something as primitive as money. Love these talking head personalities. All about the clicks and sponsors. RUclips is a cesspool of sellouts these days.
Brad DeHaven Apple’s usbc to hdmi adapter works well. I also have the CharJen Pro. It works just as well and has 3 usb ports, sd card reader, and costs $45 on Amazon.
Ethan Hegel oh absolutely. This is actually the tv Hollywood film industries use to review and color grade cinematic films. It can be calibrated to be used for various purposes: review HDR content, gaming, color grading, etc. if it can do all that, it can easy be a standard monitor. There are tons of you tube videos and tutorials on this tv that show how to dial in and calibrate or adjust for various purposes.
Question: what cables/connections do you use for video and audio? I see you use an audio interface to transfer audio to the KRK's. Do you use USB C / Thunderbolt 3 for the audio/video? Do you use HDMI eARC to bring audio from your tv to your mac? I'm about to get a similar desktop set-up :) thanks in advance for replying!
I have an LG OLED 65inch from Costco that I got before I even watched this video. It's amazing. Looks amazing, super smooth. Great for gaming, but not as good as a 1ms response time small gaming monitor. Sounds amazing even without hooking up a sound bar. Next level tv. Don't know why anyone would use it for a Computer monitor tho haha
I've had an LG OLED since 2011. Around 2015, after a LOT of daily use for around 7 hours per day, it got burnin from some of the icons, like the HGTV icon and the MSNBC icon. Warranty fixed it for free and they took the tv apart to do so. Now on year 9, you can see some smudging on a completely blank colored or grey screen, and just last week, I noticed one tiny pixel that glows bright blue in the lower left-hand corner. With the new tech and ability to try to fix burnin, it may not be as much of an issue. However, based on experience, I would not risk using an OLED as a computer monitor unless you're comfortable potentially replacing the cost of your tv every 2 years or so. For longevity and OLED in general for regular use however, I would absolutely buy one. Don't hesitate. They are BEAUTIFUL and when you go to watch a regular tv, you are so disappointed. It's like the difference between a 2005 tv screen and a current 4k monitor.
icons especially red ones like the you tube button will cause image sticking after prolonged use. Check your manuals Lg state that static images can cause image sticking if used for prolonged periods of use. You can't refresh to take away burn in. I have burn in and Lg will replace my panel free of charge as an instance of goodwill. But they stress they will never do it again. Great customer service and Lg backing their product. Tv is 2 years 10 months old 7200 hrs. In the mean time I have bought a mid range samsung QA82Q70 82 inch that has a 10 year burn in warranty. Picture is no where as good as Oled but I play Steam Games on Pc , Play Station, PC use etc. If oled is 10/10 then my mid range Qled is 7/10 which I am happy with. It has HDR10+ 4K so using my apple tv streaming box, movies are still great especially on an 82 inch wall mounted 4K TV. My OLED65C7 will be mounted in the bed room and will get limited use with my nvidia shield hooked up to it. So I still get to enjoy the richness OLED tvs provide. when ever i want but also can play my steam games without the worry of burn in on my Qled. 10 Year No Screen Burn In Warranty
Made to last, QLED TV's Quantum dots are inorganic. This means the display doesn’t burn-in over time, and the amazing colours and details you see today will stay the same over time. Samsung offers a 10 year screen burn warranty in New Zealand. Conditions apply.
I have purchased two LG 65" OLED and a huge fan but on my Living room screen that I watch a lot of cabe news I have burn in. When looking at a solid orange or yellow screen I can clearly read the static news banner. On my other OLED in my entertainment room I can't see anything but I rarely watch the news on it. Seems it is the yellow in red that is mostly affected. 12 months to show up and can't get rid of it.
i love how thin the screen is ....but my wallet is even thinner.
its true
EntertainmentCrew so true.
Lol
I just brought one for the low low
At least you got something to "brag" about.. 😄 👍
everything is beautiful when they send it for free
Endry DJ hi brother
Good one 😂😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍
U said it... 😀😀😀
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Factz
Kinda ridiculous how much that screen makes the 27" iMac Pro on the left look like an iPad on a stand.
Utube isJunk 😂 having a rough night mate?
LOL true.
That can't be a 27 inch, it looks more like a 24.
@@grasshopper3085 It's an iMac PRO - they only made that in 27".
Note space gray iMac and also black keyboard & mouse.
Who else was staring at the honey dripping?
I watched the same video when I first got my 4K OLED Laptop and I rewinded to that part like a hundred times
honeyyyyy driiiiiping🤤 @2:35
Parker Walbeck lol
@@fulltimefilmmaker Wife interrogation: "What made you came out of the Man Cave so soon:" - "There's no more Honey, Honey !!" 😄 👍
lol I've had my C8 LG 65" for 1.5 years and still watch that honey demo once a month.
I've had my LG tv for around 3 years...only just realised the remote has voice control.
So thanks, I guess.
This video made me realize that I hadn't removed the plastic layer on my 55'' LG OLED, which caused it to be 500% more glossy/reflective than it actually is... I've had it for 4 months
lemme guess, you're a "who needs manuals?" kind of guy? LOL
@@sinephase To be fair, the screen is delivered with two red fleeks on each corner (Can be seen at 00:20). As the naive person I am, I assumed that if I pull on those, the plastic covering the screen would come off. To my surprise and annoyment, the fleeks came right off, nothing else. The plastic layer was so well integrated with the screen I was afraid it was a part of the screen, and didn't dare to try and pull it off. Even after seeing Parker Walbeck pull it off I was hessitant to try.
Lg: How big would you like your computer screen to be?
Parker: Yes
Notice how he talk at 6:19 that _LG OLED are used as reference monitor and no burning issues_ - why on Earth reference monitor may have burning issues? Nobody sits 10h a day editing video on reference monitor. Rtings test on RUclips show how severe burning may be.
Me: Think I'm done with buying stuff this year...
Parker: CHECK OUT THIS BAD BOIIII!!
AndrewMurphyWA once you go OLED you won’t go back!!
You still not done levus.co
Fab-looking 21st century screen, with a 1990s remote control.
I had a 55" and just moved to a 65" 4k samsung. I'm only 4 feet away and it feels too big, I think i'm going back to the 55"
Have a 55 inch CX, wish I could find out what type of desk he is using! Looks like it would work great for my needs.
@@adamc6057 From what I saw he might be using two desks in sequence so that it's 2x deeper
55 4K UHDLG .. feels like the prefect size for me.. Its like 1 arm and half away from me
Are you using if for computer work?
What about safety for your eyes?....the distance
The video should be called My NEW TV
The reason why you don't see burn in on reference Oled tv's for color grading is because no one uses Premiere for color grading. They use Davinci resolve or similar with a dedicated output card that only output's the image and not any UI elements. If you use static elements on an OLED tv you WILL eventually see burn in. I've seen it myself. If you want a large tv for working in that manner get anything but OLED. However I can say OLED is fantastic if used solely as a reference monitor.
That's what I said. I think this video is only for advertisement this product....
András Muresán it’s a shame really. I understand that people need to make money, but I’m losing a lot of respect for Parker with this review. Imagine if someone followed his advice and bought an expensive OLED specifically to use it the way Parker did. Imagine their frustration a year afterwards when their investment is flushed down the drain from burn-in (which is not covered under warranty).
Thanks, you're absolutely right. Rtings tests show how bad burning will be with static elements.
Just got a 32" monitor. After turning it on for the fist time RUclips recommends this. Does it ever stop? :p :(
32" more than enough!!, this is surely not health long term. 32 is great!
😂😂😂
In regards to burn-in : My LG Oled 2017 has tons of burn-ins (starting after just a couple months).
I had my PC connected to it from day 1, so....
That RUclips logo on the left top -> that stays there whatever I watch now.
That RUclips subscribe button -> yup... you guessed it... right there whatever I watch.
Desktop icons and bars -> also there!
Neflix Logo after browsing which films to watch -> right in my face whatever I watch.
Amazing TV for sure, but I will never ever use it for anything else than watching films/series (when I buy my next one).
And yes, I tried pixel-refresh and had all options to reduce burn-in ON from the first second.
uploade a pic /video of that thx. not great, im sure the 2019 model is handeling it better and how u got youbue icons on there do u watch youtube all day?? u know u have to let your tv breathe whit giving it breaks and refresh pixels right, whitch can be done via the menu
@@henrikandersen4777 Had the burn-ins relatively fast. I think within half a year already. I did a couple of "refreshes" and it did work a bit in the beginning. Now the burn-ins are here to stay. :(
RUclips 3 hours a day at average. PC around 5 hours.
Very bright colors (red, pink, orange) are also visible for like a minute, if they are displayed for just a few seconds.
To be honest, I wasn't aware of O-leds burning in, until it was already too late.
Perhaps burn-in does appear to be a myth when you replace your OLED TV every single year!!!
@@fulltimefilmmaker Can you sell me one of the oled tv?
I've had my OLED since 2016. I have the E6. We watch a ton of movies, physical disc, streaming, gaming etc. and have never had any burn in.
@@ozzman8 I got my C8 last year. Definitely amazing. As a Music Producer myself though, I'd keep thinking that there's a higher chance of image retention because of the static displays (sequence window, virtual instruments, mixers, etc). It's not just a HUD like a game.
I'd be hesitant to use it as a monitor for Producing, but it would be pretty crazy to Produce on one of these once in a while.
@@fulltimefilmmaker Damn! You're rich!
It will take only a few months for the burn in to be permanent. On my Oled the first time I ran pixel refresher it solved the burn in. After like 8 months of use I ran it again but this time it didn't solve anything. It is impossible to use an Oled as pc monitor, it will be destroyed in 6 months.
Sad thing is that its not usable on editing. I destroyed one 2019 OLED TV that way. The burning in is a real problem and it will happen. It took only 3 months to destroy it. Much better choice IS QLED TV. So no thanks to you and your recommending OLED for editing...
I use it as a feed monitor and I hide the task bar until the mouse goes over it, there is no burn in that way. It’s only when you leave something on the screen for hrs daily that burn in will happen, like any expensive toy, you must take extra care of it
How noticable is the lag for editing
@@MrAngelRipped I edit for hours a day. That will do the trick, easily. No ALG at all. Even with gaming its like 6ms. Not even notice it.
Sure if you edit on low level like short youtube videos its fine but on any PRO work for get it.
The new 9 series LG OLEDs also have support for G-Sync for those that want a panel for both editing and gaming.
They also have support for bankrupting recovery.
@@TechWiz1983 I mean the 55" LG B9 is $1100 new. On Black Friday it'll drop below $1000. That's expensive, but a pretty crazy deal when you think about a 55" 4k 120hz GSync monitor with great color accuracy.
@@TechWiz1983 bankrupcy? Lmao samsungs q90r costs even more then this oled screen. Who would've thought that samsung would be more pricey then Lg's oled lol
Nice top 😉
I don't know.... Oled and static images or menus .. doesn't sound like a good idea long term
My thoughts exactly. Has LG come up with a solution for the oled burn in?
catalin balaceanu there is no preventable fix so far for any pled other than what parker mentioned about pixel shifting.
Ahhh so I see you all didn’t watch the whole video.... 5:45
@@x_Artius_x but have he used those oled tv for editing ? I think this is the first one he use for that specifically...
type in rtings.com oled burn in test on youtube or google (video or written review)
took about 5 years of 20 hours per day of news channel running to show burn-in.
thats a 2014 model of OLED though.
they tested two tv's running games as well for 2 years (check review for exact hours), and no burn-in so far on the 2017 models. so depending on what the use it, the burn-in is either realistic or blown-up online.
as a tv monitor all day use, i can tell you with my non-professional advice, dont get the TV for that use.
for sofa use with pc connected and varied content or picture, sure. that will be okay.
Burn in is not BS, I thought it was, now I have it. I've had a 2017 65" OLED B7 as primary monitor for almost 3 years now. Windows Start and taskbar icons and some desktop icons have burned in slightly. I've had to enable a 1 minute screen saver (funny this is what they were designed for decades ago), and "auto hide" my task bar which I HATE. Pixel refresher doesn't do anything, and screen shift just makes your maximized windows render off screen slightly and its annoying. Be aware! If you don't believe me I will sell you my OLED, I want a new one now with Gsync, but this time I will be more cautious of burn in. It seems bright colored icons and images burn in faster than everything else. Other than that, this is a legit option for PC, even gaming. I am a software engineer and use it for coding mostly, but lots of gaming. Make sure to rename your input to "PC" as there is internal code in firmware to reduce input lag even more.
How far is the place where you sit from your monitor
@@caonima323 4 to 5 feet away. My TV is on an entertainment piece with a fake fireplace under it. I have what I call a floating desk in my office. I can fold it up and put it aside so I can have VR space.
@@ds-1111 Compared with VR glasses, do you think this 65-inch screen can be compared with VR glasses？ Before the ecological maturity of VR glasses software, is it the best virtual reality solution to use TV as a display ？I want to vertically erect three televisions to form a virtual reality space ，Connect the 3 55 inch TV with the computer
Notice how he talk at 6:19 that _LG OLED are used as reference monitor and no burning issues_ - why on Earth reference monitor may have burning issues? Nobody sits 10h a day editing video on reference monitor. Rtings test on RUclips show how severe burning may be.
@4:28 i can guarantee you that is NOT 6 feet away.
thats more lie 3 feet
2:52 my jaw dropped 😂🤯
21:9 is better for video editing.
After using about 2 years of ultrawide, i think it is better aspect ratio :)
We must wait 42+ curved 21:9.
p.s. Sony have the best TV quality.
Alexander Matveev Samsung CRG9 49 inches 32:9 ratio
Not necessarily. A smaller 4k 16:9 actually has more screen real estate than a larger 1440p ultrawide. It may feel like you have more at first, but in practice you are just losing screen real estate.
I dont believe for a second that he is using a 65" TV to edit his videos.
why ?
I don’t see why he wouldn’t? The image on this tv is next level. Makes sense to use it honestly.
@@LondonWater It is not an issue of image quality. Video editing is a very heavy process (just from the human resource perspective) in terms of time consumption and precision. Having a living as a video editor, which is the only thing that justifies buying a TV for video editing (unless you are a rich-or very strong enthusiast), is not about applying a filter to a video and letting a top-of-the-line GPU do its job, or just doing a crop and many other stuff that lots of people can do from a home. Video editing is a science. It is impossible to check frames for a 2 hour video (say a wedding + gathering footage) in such a close distance with such a huge screen. Your eyes will bleed. Also, image quality cannot be assessed properly when you are so close. Nobody watches TV from a less than a meter distance. That way, you cannot put yourself in the place of your customer properly. Do not desire something you are not sure you are going to like in the first place people. Be aware that marketing practices are intrusive and appeal as the perfect choice and only in maximum potential conditions, which is hardly ever the case. Best regards.
@@Anyfantis0 He's watching from two meters away.... I use a 32" and a 27" monitor stacked to grade on the daily at under a meter away. I agree 65" might be a little big, but not a ton bigger than my setup currently. Especially sitting that far away. Plus his viewport isn't the whole 65" when editing. If he's doing fullscreen checks he probably just scoots back. I'm heavily debating picking up a 55" OLED to replace my stack.
@@FTGTapGod I am using an ultrawide 34" and it is big enough for anything. Having a 32" and a 27" is a totally different approach than a 65" monitor. 65 inches are absolutely unusable. Also, your argument about 2 meters distance is just laughable. Are you saying that within the uploader and the monitor a 2meter person can lie horizontally? Not even if he squeezes like a snake lol
Parker, definitely a sweet setup! My wife and I are always talking about the best ways to upgrade our setup and increase the best workflow. This is definitely valuable information. Furthermore, I love LG! I used to work for T-Mobile call center in their business department selling a good number of LG tablets & phones helping businesses with a better workflow. Anyways, I've been a fan of their tech (washer/dryer, tv's, phones) for a long time. Love this video!
27 imac: Am I a joke to you?
LG65" OLED: yes, you are.
@@ipoi5117 😂
you got a free 65 inch OLED tv nuff said
Can you do a split screen to mimic 3 monitors for multi-tasking like you can on the LG 49” Ultra-wide Monitor?
Yeah .. using any tilting app and you can split your monitor to any set up you want
When 8k becomes mainstream, i can see these being used instead of multiple display setups.
Why did you put these small blackbars onto this video? Looks terrible
Nikolai Reuther that’s strange. I read you comment & I realised as well
Nikolai Reuther what are you talking about? The black horizontal lines are fine, at least on phone.
Ben no, there is actually no reason for that. He could have just exported the video in this cropped format, so you could watch it on your full screen on for example iPhone X, but he exporters the blackbars
Is it accurate enough to do color grading on it? Could you go more into detail about the color accuracy?
Jamie Fenn I highly doubt it. If it was, then everyone and their grandmother in the professional color correcting/grading world would use it.
I’m sure there is a lot of light bleed and inconsistent gamma levels throughout the screen (some parts are darker or lighter than others).
@@Ben-fq1lj Thats what I thought. Im honestly kind of surprised that he made a video on this and Im confused why he would use this for his professional work? Maybe its just sponsor influenced?
Jamie Fenn he got that thing for free of course it’s Sponsor influenced
@@Ben-fq1lj light bleeding is not possible on any oled... Banding is however a problem that happens on some models, when something is close to black.
Yeah, but what about uniformity? I highly doubt the whole screen is uniform, unless oleds are known for being perfectly uniform by default.
did you calibrate both iMac and OLED screens before color grading?
Rodney Turner that’s might be tricky to do...different color science and manufacturers. Maybe with the Spyder Pro calibration system would work?
I know xrite makes one for high end displays like oleds and apples new display.
bro if u can teach me editing i'll pay for that teaching class and i mean it
You can literally learn that for free... Here on the internet🙃
@@applefreak32 i know but i kinda like in person training so i can be more comfortable
He has an online film school, and he will be your personal mentor, and depending on where you live, he sometimes has in person training.
First time I've ever come across this channel and sir, I gotta say, the quality of your video is INCREDIBLE. I'm truly in awe.
Hi Parker, I'm interested to know if working at home affects you at all? I've been trying to seperate home and work life, as I found it was affecting my productivity, mood and sleep. Any tips?
Get a specific room for work, and only for that if possible. This help to get a separated environment of work and also letting know to other people (wife, kids) that if you're in the room, you're not available.
nice question
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He just got a new office space outside his home.
@@TannerTownsend Thanks Tanner, I'd be interested to know if it's made much of a difference for him. Your music inspires me btw!
great work you do thank you bro
I got the same tv a few months back while I was in new Zealand and set it up when I got back to my house in Tennessee. It's definitely quite an experience turning it on for the first time and going and finding some 4k or even 8k hdr footage to put on it. and even crazier once I set up my 5.1 surround system and play some 4k blurays on it, some with dolby vision and some without. one in particular, blade runner 2049, absolutely blew me away. Especially watching it in a pitch black room. One of the best things ive seen on any display. I don't even go to the cinema anymore, I usually just wait till the blurays or I go to a dolby cinema if I really want to see the movie.
I have a c8 that I decided would be cool as a computer monitor and now there is a permanent RUclips play button in the top left corner, permanent HUD from all my games that have one, and permanent aiming reticle in the center which makes for some sweet quick scopes.
Now I have the Alienware OLED. We'll see how that goes.
Always watching your awesome videos, do you got those lower third text after effects files for sale? Those are awesome
Hmm I suppose those are from storyblocks. He once said in some video that using Storyblocks text animations
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Burn in isn't an overblown myth. It does happen and is something to be wary of. Factor it into your purchasing decision.
I don't understand why he was calling it a myth when it is something that is very well known to happen since the inception of oleds.
Lost a little bit of respect for this guy
Computer monitor: am i a joke to you?
literally was joking with my dad to use LG Oled TV as a monitor...since there is no OLED monitor and it removes the need for multiple screens. Also going to have gsync...to game...haha
I just got my OLED panel replaced.
This is real folks.
If you leave a static image on high panel brightness settings (on a bright, summer day for example) for couple of hours - the panel gets it.
Mine burned my cyberpunk wallpaper and taskbar icons in :...(
Keep the brightness at minimum and use screensavers.
To test your panel, check out this site:
deadpixelbuddy.com/
13ms input lag really shouldn't cause any substantial video to audio cutting issues in 24p. Each frame on a 24p timeline covers over 40ms of time. (And almost 17ms even in a 60p timeline) .
If LG send me a tv I will tell all my subscribers how much I love it too.
LG OLED... Ive owned for 5 years... love it. The hands down best.
Samsung and LG is my to go for monitors for editing films.
I would ABSOLUTELY love a 32 to 36 inch version of this tv to use as a proper monitor
4:43 that's not 6 ft
your favorite because???????? hahahahaha enjoy your free tv ;)
getting a boomer vibe will all those tvs
hmmm i wonder if LG will finally realize we need 32" versions of the new C10 OLED tv's for monitors? they already released a 48" which is sold out everywhere.
yup 32" is my fav size. Almost every company stops at 27".
Wow another RUclipsr reviewing a product I'll never be able to afford :)
Exspyda keep up that attitude and you will truly never be able to afford anything
@@255132a :)
Go into debt for it. It'll so be worth it
@@255132a thank you
LG OLED B9 65" $1300, that's not a fortune right now
Oh Good nice
More like a review of that monitor than an overview of the whole setup.
usa ....LOL
You’re literally the hooded t shirt guy
hahahahaha
Where is the link to get for free?
Jk :P
The office is indeed the best show on earth.
warever37 way off, that’s the stupidest show I have ever started to watch
Amen. Such a great show
why are you the way that you are?
@@255132a do you mind telling us what is so stupid about it?
Plot gave it a shot, 5 episodes in and I just don’t get it, it’s dumb to me lol
Feel like I am wasting my time watching that show and replying to this comment.
If you want to wear glasses early in your life, then use a tv as your computer screen.
I picked up an LG OLED last year and it’s honestly a fantastic purchase. Yes editing is amazing, but watching everything on it is incredible. Gaming is unreal, and HDR content is mind blowing. I went with the 55” and have zero regrets.
B9 or c9?
I bought my oled two years ago from Best Buy with a 5 year extended warranty that covers burn in. I almost hope i experience burn in around year 4 :)
Video starts at 3:32
You're welcome.
nice
Love my C7 and I might go C9 to replace my gaming monitor once the high refresh rate PS5 comes out. I have a suggestion on your Mac setup. If you extend displays, instead of duplicating, you'll free up more GPU power.
How about OLED screen burning? Did they do something more, than last year?
Still will burn in with static content. Not suitable for pc usage.
Im so hyped by thoose Lg oled tv's too. They just look breathtaking. Like a peace of perfection. My first TV will be defenitly this one.
Take USB with your videos and play in the shop. Look on dark scenes since they will be just "black". If you like this, it's OK, if no, need to wait next 5 years.
@@taras1033 No need to wait 5 years, just buy an OLED TV from Panasonic (HZW2004 is a perfect one!)
I liked the picture at Al Aqsa
I totally get editing on an OLED for colour accuracy, but considering everyone else just has standard LED monitors, or even projectors... surely this will negatively affect the overall render?
That's like say music should be mixed on iphone speakers because that's all people listen to.
@@Lee-xs4dj oled doesn't necessarily mean accurate colour was actually my point. As in if you're editing colour and contrast to suit an oled, how will that look to the everyday user?
@@JackWoodhams I heard that Netflix used LG oleds to grade their programs.
@@Lee-xs4dj my original comment was a question not a statement. I was asking a question about oleds and colour accuracy/gamma etc.
Taken from Google:
709/sRGB. This is challenging for existing display technologies and content producers alike. Leading OLED displays that can reproduce up to 96 - 98% of DCI-P3 can replicate a maximum of 75% of Rec. ... 2020 coverage with unmatched peak brightness and color purity across up to 83% of Rec.
Just because Netflix uses them to colour grade doesn't mean EVERY SINGLE oled is colour accurate out the box. If you want to he them for editing you'll need to properly calibrate them, like any existing monitor. But there will be oleds that simply don't cover enough of the rec709 or rec2020 colour space. So don't just buy an oled thinking "must be colour accurate"
@@Lee-xs4dj as an audio engineer myself, most of us check our mixes on apple air pods and even the built in phone or lap top speakers before finishing our mixes. It would make no sense to NOT check your mixes on the platform that MOST people are using. Although we only really use these things at the end of the mixing process just to double check and make final adjustments. I'm sure this same concept can be used in video editing. It wouldn't hurt to edit on a OLED as colors are more accurate, but I think you should also check on LED's, which should be easy to do on a multi monitor setup.
Also some apple phones have OLED displays now.
3:19 Michael Scott grilled his foot
6 months later: 'I returned my LG C9 because of burn in'.
are you serious what where you using it for pc
@@kirwan101 his trying to be clever making a joke.
@@henrikandersen4777 a I see i read it in the wrong way :)
Wow. But do you have some windows in your editing room? Can get depressing.
OLED is Plasma all over again: amazing quality, poor durability.
Nothing poor about their durability!
If you were referring to burn-in, you're likely worrying about something that is not going to be an issue for 99% of people who vary the content they watch.
Rob Pi unfortunately I’m that 1% and besides that OLED TVs are generally paper thin glass surfaces, that freaks me out as well it looks cool but is a lot more fragile than normal TVs
@@Usaji_ Haha! Fair enough then. What is your use case? Do you use it as a PC monitor?
I agree the thinness of the screen can make them appear fragile but I have transported the LGC7 in the back of a car (to new house) and also wall mounted the LGC9 (numerous times we had to take the TV down and adjust measurements etc) and neither of them have shown any signs of damage.
Rob Pi I mostly play games in my dawn time for 5h straight, that and I’ve seen people recommending to not let anything paused on the tv, I really don’t need a new thing to worry about in life haha
@@Usaji_ wrestle outside!
Now don’t get me wrong. I like Parker. And I like your videos. I even joined full time filmmaker a couple months back and paid that whopping $800 price tag. But I realized you’re the best when you said the office is the best show on earth. Now you’re my true role model 😂
dude, that OLED is gonna burn in SO BAD
Samsung TVs are way better
Advertisement for LG. Come on man.
You know what else is beautiful? Selling your soul for something as primitive as money. Love these talking head personalities. All about the clicks and sponsors. RUclips is a cesspool of sellouts these days.
Funny, I just bought this TV- for this reason. Everything Parker says is 100% true!
For the newer Macs with USB C connectors, what is the best option to convert to HDMI? Just an Apple hdmi dongle? or is there something better?
Brad DeHaven Apple’s usbc to hdmi adapter works well. I also have the CharJen Pro. It works just as well and has 3 usb ports, sd card reader, and costs $45 on Amazon.
Ethan Hegel oh absolutely. This is actually the tv Hollywood film industries use to review and color grade cinematic films. It can be calibrated to be used for various purposes: review HDR content, gaming, color grading, etc. if it can do all that, it can easy be a standard monitor. There are tons of you tube videos and tutorials on this tv that show how to dial in and calibrate or adjust for various purposes.
Question: what cables/connections do you use for video and audio? I see you use an audio interface to transfer audio to the KRK's. Do you use USB C / Thunderbolt 3 for the audio/video? Do you use HDMI eARC to bring audio from your tv to your mac? I'm about to get a similar desktop set-up :) thanks in advance for replying!
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@@zakariadehache1235 lmao same
I have an LG OLED 65inch from Costco that I got before I even watched this video. It's amazing. Looks amazing, super smooth. Great for gaming, but not as good as a 1ms response time small gaming monitor. Sounds amazing even without hooking up a sound bar. Next level tv. Don't know why anyone would use it for a Computer monitor tho haha
I've had an LG OLED since 2011. Around 2015, after a LOT of daily use for around 7 hours per day, it got burnin from some of the icons, like the HGTV icon and the MSNBC icon. Warranty fixed it for free and they took the tv apart to do so. Now on year 9, you can see some smudging on a completely blank colored or grey screen, and just last week, I noticed one tiny pixel that glows bright blue in the lower left-hand corner. With the new tech and ability to try to fix burnin, it may not be as much of an issue. However, based on experience, I would not risk using an OLED as a computer monitor unless you're comfortable potentially replacing the cost of your tv every 2 years or so. For longevity and OLED in general for regular use however, I would absolutely buy one. Don't hesitate. They are BEAUTIFUL and when you go to watch a regular tv, you are so disappointed. It's like the difference between a 2005 tv screen and a current 4k monitor.
Oled burned pixels. Low durability.
Why not a 200" for the Wall and you sit 1 Meter in front of it?
icons especially red ones like the you tube button will cause image sticking after prolonged use. Check your manuals Lg state that static images can cause image sticking if used for prolonged periods of use. You can't refresh to take away burn in. I have burn in and Lg will replace my panel free of charge as an instance of goodwill. But they stress they will never do it again. Great customer service and Lg backing their product. Tv is 2 years 10 months old 7200 hrs.
In the mean time I have bought a mid range samsung QA82Q70 82 inch that has a 10 year burn in warranty. Picture is no where as good as Oled but I play Steam Games on Pc , Play Station, PC use etc. If oled is 10/10 then my mid range Qled is 7/10 which I am happy with. It has HDR10+ 4K so using my apple tv streaming box, movies are still great especially on an 82 inch wall mounted 4K TV. My OLED65C7 will be mounted in the bed room and will get limited use with my nvidia shield hooked up to it. So I still get to enjoy the richness OLED tvs provide. when ever i want but also can play my steam games without the worry of burn in on my Qled.
10 Year No Screen Burn In Warranty
Made to
last, QLED TV's Quantum dots are inorganic. This means the display
doesn’t burn-in over time, and the amazing colours and details you see
today will stay the same over time. Samsung offers a 10 year screen burn
warranty in New Zealand. Conditions apply.
Thats a clean set up but... im thinking 40" tops, id need a way bigger desk for all that lol
Not necessarily levus.co
Oled as a PC-Monitor. Dude, you are not smart.
his dont know this is not safety for his eyes
3:16 the best show on Earth YEAH
Not to bad for the price.
I need a desk like that where do you find this at and how much does it cost
I wanna know as well
Think he just used 2 Ikea tables and made a T shape
7 mts watching an add 😂
I'm Korean, but I've never seen a place like your studio... I have rarely seen anyone buying such expensive TV in Korea.
wow....amazing!!!!!!
may i know what keyboard and mouse you are using?
You about to have glasses so damn thick they're bulletproof
I have purchased two LG 65" OLED and a huge fan but on my Living room screen that I watch a lot of cabe news I have burn in. When looking at a solid orange or yellow screen I can clearly read the static news banner. On my other OLED in my entertainment room I can't see anything but I rarely watch the news on it. Seems it is the yellow in red that is mostly affected. 12 months to show up and can't get rid of it.
That magic remote is just a wii mote with a mic
Absolutely right choice. Valuable information.
EEEggcellent Video! lol. Like to know what Camera your using. Thanks. Keep'em comin!
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