WHAT LEVEL OF TENNIS PLAYER ARE YOU? I WILL EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENT LEVELS AND WHERE YOU BELONG
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- What are the various levels of Tennis Players? Where level should you be playing.
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I'd say the entry intermediate 3.0 level is quite a frustrating level where you can still "beat yourself" through unforced errors and lack of consistency. Typical level to feel beat by blockers and pushers when you are trying your best to play with the correct technique.
Amen. Very hard to improve when guys are just pushing junk balls all day to get the win. They just drag you down. And you don't win the match nor do you learn anything. Horrible.
@@TheRob2D if you ain't learning, that's on you. It's definitely an opportunity to improve and beat them
@TheRob2D a 3.0 lacks the technique to put a junk ball away. Once your groundstrokes get good enough you will relish a junk ball to put it away.
@@rolandharris2706 Agree. I'm one of those people that seems to be stuck at 3.5 despite striving for technique. I have a very imbalanced game...my serve is well above the 3.5 level purely because I've been able to put years of solo practice into it (were talking 4.5 level). My forehand/backhand is probably a 4.0 level yet any attacking mid-court shot or volley is firmly 3.0-3.5 level. This means I can't get past a 3.5 level as too many volleys are either not put away sufficiently for the opponent to have another chance, stuffed into the net or hit long. Most frustrating when opponents just about manage to block a serve back which should be an easy winner but you have no confidence to put the ball away.
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Luis is from CANADA not California 😄
But I love California!
Hi Harry, thanks for your video. I will put in practice on court. I impress how you answer your audience and bring a new topic every post. Tennis is so amazing sport with a lot of possibilities. Thanks @tennisspin team.
Waterloo Ontario is in CANADA
He probably got confused with the town of Ontario, California
I've been waiting for this type of video. thanks
touring pros are 7.0 college players are 6.0 from USTA "At the top end of the rating spectrum, a 6.0 player typically has had intensive training for national tournaments or top-level collegiate competition and has obtained a national ranking. The 6.5 and 7.0 are world-class players."
Last time I checked (a while ago), your numbers are correct. Harry is a little off on this.
It doesn't really matter, why does anyone need to have a number assigned to them, just play.
Number assignments give tennis a poor image, it's arrogance, 'I am a 5, therefore a 4 cannot hit the rubber ball with me, I am too good for them stand aside 4 and go play with the other peasants'. haha.
Rating doesn't matter for people above 6.0 level, they will have their ATP or ITF rankings instead.
@@TimTheMusicManIt really "doesn't matter". I like that, well said!
Played in high school for about 3 years in early 2000's.. Loved playing on the weekends but never played at a top level. Just picked up tennis again last year & I want to say I'm about 3.0-3.5. I am not competitive at all & from past experiences I'd choked during games.I have a hard time finding someone at a higher level to play with. I feel stuck. I have been taking group classes but I can't help to feel stuck.
This video came at just the right time! Thanks!
Yeah except due to level holding (appealing when they get moved up) and self-rating, we are now in a situation where 3.0-3.5 can be top level college players. Yes, this is actually happening in my region. All the ratings here are deflated. Advanced/intermediate can't win at 3.0. We have 3.0 who are UTR 8 (since you can't mess with your UTR). NTRP is destroyed right now. Makes no sense.
Where are you at? This is happening in Arizona where 4.5 are crowding the 3.5 leagues
@@josep9599 Yeah I'm in MAS. Maryland/DC. It's so ridiculous right now.
Don’t understand the motivation for those people. Doesn’t everyone want to move up the ranking? Please help me understand it. Thanks
It doesn't really matter, why does anyone need to have a number assigned to them, just play.
Number assignments give tennis a poor image, it's arrogance, 'I am a 5, therefore a 4 cannot hit the rubber ball with me, I am too good for them stand aside 4 and go play with the other peasants'. haha.
I maxed out in my mid 30's 60%+ win rate in 4.0 sgls. Now in my low 50's, age, life, nasty knee injury and lack of interest in upper body strength training I could pass for a 3.5 in dubs. For me, there are so few shots which are improvable without serious fitness work.
TENNIS in my 50's: 75% physical 25% mental
You explain so clearly. Thanks
I haven’t played a tournament my life. Im also 12, yet im in Wimbledon! 😳
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.
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Harry, you need glasses and stronger coffee like Espresso.
You meant
WATERLOO, ONTARIO CANADA
7.0 is pro tour. Federer etc are all 7.0 Harry.
Sometimes I feel like I play like a 4.5, sometimes I play like a 3.0! I'm probably around a 4.0ish level though. I will be a 5.0 one day.
I’ve been playing tennis since 1975. Have played lots of leagues and played tournaments when I was lot younger. I’m a 2.0 rated player.
I think Harry is between 4.0 to 4.5.
I myself am 3.5.
This was a great video because I was wondering how one gets rated. I thought it had to do with how many games or matches you won, but now I know the way it is done because Harry did this video.
Sumatera is in Indonesia, we have lots of great coffee here
Where do typical high school varsity players fall? I’m guessing 3.5-4.5 depending on region/quality
4.0-4.5
definitely depends on the highschool.. When I was in highschool I played #1 singles my Jr and Senior Year and #2 singles my Freshman and Sophmore year.. and there would be teams full of players that I felt were more like a 1.5-2.5 and there were teams that were Much more advanced and I'd say around 4.0-4.5 with players that you knew were approaching 5.0-5.5 so just the fact that a person made Varsity doesn't guarantee their level.. my team for example Freshman and Sophmore year was Stacked with no one under a 4.0 and most closer to 4.5+ my junior and Senior Years I'd say a majority of the varsity team were more like 3.5-4.0. Regionals felt like a cakewalk until the finals when I'd get to the guy that actually had game.. Conference(To qualify for State) however was more competitive..
Sorry to necro, but I’ll take a crack at answering your question. I’m currently a junior in highschool at a AAA school (1200-1300 people) and play varsity tennis.
I live in an area where tennis isn’t really that big, so we have a pretty large spread of skill on our teams. I’m our first singles, and I’m probably around 4.0 to maybe 4.5. Second is around a 3.5-4.0, and our third singles is probably around a 3.0-3.5 and the majority of the team is around 2.5-3.0. I’ve played teams that were almost entirely 3.0ish players, and I’ve played some that were terrible outside of their first singles (some solid 4.5 players at first with everyone else being 3.5 and lower). On the average team in a region that isn’t extremely competitive (so not somewhere like CA), you’ll see a pretty high level first singles (think 4.0-5.0), decent second and third singles (3.5-4.0), and ok doubles (3.0ish). You’ll see some variation, but that’s the normal range.
However, the more competitive the area, the higher the general skill level. I live in the rural south east of the US, so we don’t have competitive training or the like for tennis nearby, and my school team gets basically no funding. If you went to an area with better facilities and such (Big cities like Atlanta, or basically anywhere in California) you’ll find higher levels of play.
3.0-6.0 my county has 3 divisions for hs tennis. Some schools had people who could barely rally and some schools had multiple junior players who would play national tournaments.
@@tnbbcp sound about right. In my 40's i would help my bro out with his HS team while on vacation. I was playing 50% sgls 4.0 ball at the time. Only the #1 could beat me and it was still close. AAAA school 3000+ students but zero tennis support.
51 yrs old with horrible stamina. Starts the match at 5. Drops to 4.5 after 3-4games. Drops to 4 by end of 6 games. 3.5 by start of the second set and 3 by end of the second set. If a 3rd set is required, i give up. 😂😂😂
Do you think people tank their play when they get rated, so they can play players that aren’t as good as themselves? I played tournaments and leagues and some of the people I played weren’t the level they were rated! This was a great video my friend.
I went to a 3.5 USTA "tryout" this winter and 2 of the other guys trying out played in college.
That isn't saying much. What number did they play? Was it D II, III NAIA? I played at NAIA we had some really good players but our #6 was terrible. But sadly a lot of people also fill out the forms incorrectly and lie on the questions. All you have to do is file a grievance and the USTA will review the questionnaire and if they lied they will get suspended and bumped. But if you dont say anything the USTA can't do anything.
Love the content!!!
Lol, I still have no idea on which level I should play in the US (given there will be wny opportunity).
You will never hear one single clean pop from my strokes. You will hear two. One ist the actual stroke, the second one is the ball breaking the sound barrier, which I permanently try to do.
In Germany you would not be given the opportunity to self estimate your level. Enlist for some kind of tournament or join a club, play the league, get some points for every victory, improve your ranking and be happy.
Our system has a major weakness though: mediocre players with high rate of participation can get higher ranks than good players who don't play tournaments or league on a regular basis. So the ranking can be a kind of a black box.
as other people have commented, these ratings are what players SHOULD be but right now it's nowhere close to this. 4.0 are ex-college players now
Age is also a factor. I used to be a 4.0-4.5 player when I was in my teens and twenties. At 51, I’m more like a 3.5. I still know what to do, but my body just can’t always do it anymore.
TENNIS in my 50's: 75% physical 25% mental
Low 50's and have fallen to 3.5 in dubs still clinging to 4.0sgls.
Good stuff Harry.
My level is hitting my opponents with the tennis ball when they piss me off! 😝😝😝 Target practice for me! 😎😎😎
"harry" here is a 3.0 or 3.5 at best after playing for decades. u dont need solinco u need a synth string at ur level
There is that 5.0 pop...I’m so curious what really makes it.
i think its the timing of the strokes and the sweetspot of the racket, when you combine those 2 things you hit the ball at the perfect time, not early neither late, you dont push it at all its clean
@@lucasoscar def hitting the sweet spot with fast racquet head speed
I gave classes for a while, and our club team reached 2nd division in the +30 category of our national asociation which was pretty high level honestly, i would say around 5.0 based on this chart, but i saw other people using charts up to 7.0
UTR is probably more accurate rating
UTR is far from accurate and has ruined Australian tennis
Waterloo, Ontario, California! 😂 Hey Harry: Is Aspen in California? 🤣
I've learned so much from your videos that I think it's about time I subbed. There, done. Now, what I'm curious to know is how Harry would rate himself :-) ?
Sadly so many players play at lower levels just to get wins - Ive played several usta tournaments and number of players playing at a level beneath them I’ve played 3.0 and 3.5 and most of the competition is 4.0 or much higher it’s pathetic
You self rate/know you're a 4.0 player and then play as a 3.5 level in USTA matches and get to the districts. If you want to win districts, you self rate/know you're a 4.5 player and play as a 3.5 USTA player.
ya I play at 3.5 and a USTA league I played with were 4.0's. It's like martial arts there is always sandbagging in competition
Waterloo Ontario is in Canada 😂😂😂
I think UTR rating not accurate due to player in different ages category.
This was very helpful thank you for taking the time to explain. I think I am a 4 maybe 4.5. Sometimes i feel like a good 4.5 bottom feeder 5.0. But I need to get back into match play. I think I will start 3.5. I'm sure I'll piss off a lot of boomers. But oh well.
At clubs where i live 4.0 is called advanced and it’s totally ridiculous.
I guess i am an advanced for my age since I play almost everyday with people double my age and keep up with the same power
I would say Roger is 7.0-7.5 :)
How can I contact you for a question regarding junior rackets
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Thank you very much for the video. I learned a lot from your video. I just bought the Clash 100L L0. How about for recreation player like me but I’m very competitive. From you rating chart, I think I’m a 2.5 to 3. Do recreation player have rating also? Please advice. Thank
Do you have Wilson prostaff 90?
If we're in the 3.0 to 3.5 range, what role does technology have on game improvement? (Better rackets, etc)
I would recommend 1) always get a good racket (good gear including shoes) from the beginning and progress as you move up 2) at 3-3.5 your focus should be improving agility , court position and stamina. ~ Coach Raturi (TPA CERT)
At 3-3.5 your coach should be able to help or advise you what would work out best , demo a few rackets from Pro shop (they can also help you to choose a good racket for your level and style)
#tennisspin is a good channel to see rackets reviews
Not much. It’s all about working on your game
@@Doty6String i do believe today's racket technology at 3-3.5 level can make a huge difference in you reaching a level where you will settle with 4-4.5 or go above 5.0 so.... Yes asking the right question about racket at 3.5 level is a smart move.
How do you get better if the returns are always too far or too unrealistic to hit, and athleticism is on the decline, I.E getting old. lol. some hits sound good...lol
Did some research on RUclips and I definitely got the push player i have been worried about.. junk ball 4 life.
Hi Harry
I am waching you once or twice a day!
I bought last sprint a brand new raquette Head Boom MP which I find too Light. Could you show us how to customizing?
Great respect for your knowledge
Anyone knows Tennis Spin's level?
based on what i have seen from him I would say probably 4.0
I'd like to see Harry's first and second serves.
to be honest, I don't really like the title, it almost sounds like once you identify which level you are in, you can't move around, go up or down.
This is actually a decent explained video. The reason I left tennis is because of the racket technology marketing garbage and these ratings. There is competition and their is money/professional. There is fun and ratings = zero fun. Maybe to describe yourself, if you have no one to play with. When I played competitively, that was the problem. I just wanted to play without the rating crap or pressure of winning. Unfortunately, you need another human meat bag on the other side of the net. They do need technology, that is more advanced than modern tennis robot ball machines and I don't have to deal with the egos, cheating, annoying and other humans. That's my brand of tennis. If only I could play with myself. (Pun intended)
Proudly a 4.75 player 😀
I have used some of your stringing techniques and enjoy watching your videos, however your rating wont drop with age. Ie, McEnroe’s rating will never drop to level 2 because he has aged. My buddy who is 74 years old used to be number 1 east coast champion still he is considered advanced player and pro in all associations’ standards; PTR, USPTA, and USTA.
So if McEnroe turns 80 and can barely run and doesn’t hit the ball too hard because he feels pain, and any 3.5 player can beat him so just putting them on the other side, you don’t think he belongs at a low level because of what he could once do?
This is a hilarious take. I promise, as a 3.5 myself, once McEnroe gets old enough, I’ll be able to beat him. I can’t imagine ever beating a 6.0+
Stay on tennis please. Don’t talk about coffee if you don’t know much about it 😊
I'm pretty sure the chick from Waterloo is Canadian, not Californian, LOL.
I just fell asleep
5.0 - 5.5 is a club pro.
IMO a club pro doesn’t have to be in true 5.0 physical shape
Club pros are 4.5-5.0 usually in our area, some of them who just get out of college could be considered 5.5, however I look from a utr standpoint and convert to usta
WHats your level?
Can u do a video on posers
Maybe someone came in and bought all the fancy expensive gear and has the clothes but doesn’t know tennis lingo
Or on court have u seen someone who acted pro but sucked embarrassingly
What is your level ?
I heard USTA 4.5 means you played college. Not 5.0
Maybe D3 or a low D2 college player would be 4.5
I just played in a team event in the southeast where I was one of very few 4.5's and I did not play college. Everyone else was 5.0, maybe a few 5.5's all over age 35 and they were mostly former D1 college players. I actually played singles against a former Australian Open junior champion...it did not go well for me, but it was fun.
@@josep9599 Yeap, if you play for good a decent D3 or low D2, most likely is a 4.5
@@bbvance23 a 4.5 playing against a 5.5 would be a humbling experience.
There needs to be a better way to sync UTR and NTRP
get an ELOQUENT person to convey it, next time. WAY slow, mate. too many cliches. "you know what you're doing" is utterly nebulous. I know.. ok... I'll be quiet now. rock on.
You don't need to be athletic (except for the female player) to play tennis. Does it requires skills, yes, but tennis skills can be acquired by most.
Sure at a l low level
@@Doty6String Not really, tennis should be enjoyed by all, but it is a game that is generally played by the average, on every level. Tennis is a game of conditioning and it has it's skill requirements, it's a great game, frustrating due to its (the court) limited size.
One needs some athleticism to become good enough to be proficient at it.
@@theroadrunnerjarhead4109 to a degree, Tennis requires skills like most sports and the higher your level the more skill. Tennis is very different.
@@theroadrunnerjarhead4109 well conditioned yes. The ability to rally and win points in tennis results from time played and developing a strategy. A lot of people who play tennis are intelligent and successful. But athletic, Possibly in some and especially in the female game they are more athletic.
In tennis one doesn’t necessarily have to have traditional athletic skills. There are many many players who play well have a high rating but are not necessarily athletic. Tennis is one game that can be acquired with little athletic skill. Craftiness and thinking is an attribute along with lots of practice and you can be a very good tennis player and win a lot but this type of player may not be athletic at all.
Depends on level man. You have to be pretty physically athletic to perform at a 4.0 lvl. Impossible for a standard person or a non-athletic person to reach 4.5. I also saw your post from 8 months ago so either you are playing at a low level and don't fully understand or your trolling
@@taytay8732 Disagree, tennis players with a high level, however that is defined, are crafty and smart on court players but athletic doesn't necessarily come into play with tennis. There may be a few though.
I disagree regarding the Athletic skill, and your reasoning describes the classic "Pusher".
@@stevemqn4053 if that is how they are described. But it’s true.
Roger is not a 6.0😂
Coach Gu is 6.0, Harry thinks Gu can play against Roger.
@@qianhuang59 probably closer to a 5.0 or 5.5 unless he has an online profile that suggests otherwise
@@tenniswithric Gu is self rated as 6.0 on usta website
Richard C Gu mentioned he competed against Tiafoe and Isner before. I don’t think a 5.0 can play the same tournament as those guys.
@@qianhuang59 unless he has some official matches and at least won a few matches at 6.0 level, wouldn't really take self rating to heart.
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