I just got into the hobby after my last card collection at 13 years old. I’m 46 now. It’s never good for consumers when only a handful of companies are able to control the prices of a product by flooding the market.
That was my immediate thought when I got back into collecting 2-3 years ago. I realized that quickly that Panini was running the whole hobby and, like you, thought that can’t be good. Without any competition it’s no pressure for the hobby to evolve and improve.
@@n.frankliniii3699 if consumers stopped buying all this extra stuff, we would control the market and the cards we have would be a more legitimate investment.
@DudeYourDad lol I turned 46 in July this year and started to collect again. Mostly ufc, hockey, and star wars but a little football. Lost my collection from a kid.
I won’t even send any for grading. My opinions on grading is a convo for another day. I don’t trust they’d even get there. And insurance is not going to save you when some lowlife scans everything to make it look like it got to your mailbox. Then not only would you be getting robbed, you’d also be treated like a crook yourself.
🖐️🖐️ soooo… does this mean the expensive boxes we are all buying has fewer redemption and big chase cards because they were stolen instead of putting them into the product?? How does this get made right for the collectors who wasted money buying their boxes? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
The Hobby is getting so crazy and the card companies do not care about the kids and the collectors. It's all about the money. It is getting scary how the crime on stolen cards is getting as well. Love how you all keep us informed thank you.
been out of the hobby for 15 years. got back in 2022 to buy Purdy RCs.....months later, it was kinda crazy what exists. even numbered/autos looked like junk to me. I mean, they're just completely making up these numbers for no reason. Ok, 49 of these autos, 5 of those autos, 500 of those autos, 1 of those autos. 15 of these autos regular, 15 of them in green, 15 in blue, blah blah blah. It kinda felt totally pointless.
The bigger story you won't have on here - BIG BREAKERS COLLUDING on drops from Panini. Amazing how a few big time breakers got together and bought out the Prizm Deca FOTL for $2600,, way higher then anyone thought. Then turned around and resold them in breaks for around $3500. There is nothing from stopping them from doing that on big / limited releases.
Absolutely. And for 9 years we have all been wanting Topps Football back. And 15 for basketball. Everything that’s gone down the past handful of months have me doing a 180 on it.
9:14 - this portion is perfect, sports card dealers and shows overall have multi-millions of dollars but security is nowhere near the level it should be.
You nailed it! I feel like so many shops are run very lightly so it does not reflect the value of items being sold inside. High end shops that have millions of dollars cards should absolutely be treated liked a art gallery or Jewelry store.
I worked for Topps and would travel into the NY office. It was incredible seeing boxes and boxes of cards sitting in one of the office rooms there. Many waiting to be shipped out to players for signatures, many signed and waiting to be given out at shows/conventions, etc and others waiting to be packed out. What struck me was how few people in the office neither knew or cared about the cards and cards in general. I would show co-workers certain cards like a Julio Rodriguez rookie auto (massive at the time) and they would be in disbelief when I would say, oh yeah, this card is worth $1500-$2000 or whatever the value was. I loved looking through the cards and it was always tempting but they paid so well that losing my job and being blackballed from the industry would never have been worth it. I've still got some really cool pictures and enjoy looking at them occasionally.
@nylontusk1289 I was a content manager. Made around $80k/ year with bonuses. All our travel expenses were covered and we got free product occasionally. It was a blast for me. Would have done it for free probably haha
@nylontusk1289 I made $80k and bonuses as a Content manager. They covered travel expenses, costs, etc. We would occasionally get products to open also. Probably would have done that job for free haha
@lawcane wouldn't have been worth it. I enjoyed the job too much. I was responsible for every step of the card process, from gathering images for cards, getting league approval for designs, creating player lists, etc. It was tempting but never took anything unless it was given to me by someone above me.
This is a danger when you post a card with insurance because if you sell a card for $50,000 and it goes missing, you have to pay for $50,000 insurance cover to be covered even though the chances of the card going missing is higher. Insurance companies won't cover trading cards in Australia because they class it as high risk item. If you post an item, the postage/freight carrier will make you pay for the insurance cover
I once pulled a Gretzky auto patch redemption card, only for Upper Deck to tell me they didn't have any more and sent me an Yzerman auto patch as a replacement. Nice card, but it wasn't Gretzky. I complained to them but they never did anything else for me.
As of late, there’s been a steady increase of people not getting their redemptions, and having to settle for a card of “comparable value”. Now we know why
Back in the late 90's, Topps refractors were made elsewhere. I was at a show and a guy I had seen around asked me if I wanted some of the cards he had. He had an 800 count box with him. Someone had gone thru the trash and salvaged the damaged sheets and cut out the cards that were still good.
When the hobby turns into a gambling money operation there's no doubt that criminals will take advantage when the opportunity opens up. Do a video breakdown of how much breakers make for a high hyped product to see how much breakers charge for their services. Transparency of what people are losing and winning.
Why not have a Barcode on the back of the card to prove authentication. And the /# card. At least for Numbered cards also if stolen could be reported. Just a thought.
Also as far as security goes. What most people don’t realize is major card shows are basically running a casino. It’s money/chips in the form of cardboard. Target now has security cards near sports cards now bc of the issue during the pandemic. Target had no clue they were basically running a casino with how people gamble by opening packs looking for big hits
With the “license to print money” that all of these companies have, comes with the responsibility to protect all of our assets. By allowing thieves to steal these high end cards and flip them low they are dumping into the market and devaluing the market. Someone could win a class action suit for negligence
One thing about stealing at companies: when an employee is caught stealing they can be (and usually are) blamed for all the missing things at a company. So I would be a bit skeptical of the dollar amounts in a situation like this although it will still be a lot of money involved. This situation sounds like it was someone who had the info needed to pull this off at the time of his hire OR he had some inside help that fell through. It would be interesting to see what tipped off Upper Deck.
Any hustle or business that can easily net you 5k 10k even 50-100k from 1 sale of an item 🤔 of course scammers and thieves will jump on it , cards selling so crazy is the reason
That toppsnow NBA olympics triple auto got backdoored too. My package, among many others I saw on X, came unsealed, the cards weren't sealed, the package wasn't sealed, it was just open. Flopping in the wind. The order was RECALLED and sent back to topps facility before I even got it. There's 0 chance that card ended up in the hands it was supposed to.
This type of stuff has been happening since trading cards were invented. I remember company in Australia having thousands of redemptions in a safe. Would be so easy and tempting to just take a few. A few cards in Australian market can't be redeemed. Wonder why? Once I went to someone's house and purchased 200+ cards that are 1 per box. Weird how he lived so close to card company.
I am an antique dealer. I had one employee. She was a 50 year old housewife who wanted to work after her kids left for college. Her husband is a successful lawyer. Money is not an issue. She ended up stealing so much estate jewelry and silver from my storage room and safe. When I started seeing things missing, I set up cameras and gathered evidence. When confronted about it, she begged me to not call the police. Her husband came (in a very bad mood) and wrote me a check for $65,000.
I am in the Cannabis industry and within the recent few months, we had a new guy who was only with us for a couple weeks stole pounds of product mid shift. The big part is that the product belonged to another company. Long story short, the guy is facing grand larceny plus other charges and will be blacklisted from the industry in my state.
@@darius5396 Ahhh that would be awesome if I lived in Colorado. I dont though. :/ If I ever do move there Ill hit you up! Thanks for the offer my friend.
I do not know much about pot and the industry. However, I am assuming you are pressing charges via at the state level? Cause at the fed level it is still technically illegal right? Btw, I have a friend of mine who is in CO who may be beneficial to you. I believe he still grows. I can put you 2 in touch if you want.
Yes !!! Been saying this in your comments for years. .I figured this out after buying boxes with an average of 1 Auto or Mem Card per box , Then got Panni Points instead. what a scam by Management. This was during the Card World peak ?.
Imagine being a case ripper, buying cases chasing a bounty on a card they knew was stolen years ago, I’d gather up all my receipts and go after them for damages
Not that it took much deduction, but I called it in Dan the card man’s comment section that this Upper Deck thief had to be in management because he was kind of saying “how do you give a new employee that much access!” But if that’s what he was hired to oversee then of course you’d have immediate access. There’s a major disconnect between card collectors and producers. To producers it’s just cardboard. Sure some have expensive relics but that’s rare, mostly it’s just cardboard rectangles. The secondary market makes them valuable and if the producers acknowledge that market, then they face gambling issues. But that doesn’t excuse internal security.
Topps Chrome Update will have a bunch of high end rookie debut patches and I'm guessing Skenes will be one of them, so they were not putting the black 1/1 in that set. I do think I would have put the lesser 2 in the flagship product, one in a Hobby or Jumbo and one in a Retail box.
I guess my question is what kind of inventory practices do you have that your not sure how much someone stole from you? Especially when most of the items that were taken is serialized?
Geoff can attest to this, but it makes you wonder how technological Topps and upper deck are when it comes to inventory control management? If it was me, every card or box would be in my ERP, and depending on value would have an RFID chip. (Manufacturer wouldn’t do this for individual cards unless they were redemption cards)
I believe I had the special edition Bryce Harper Under Armour card stolen at the factory. It was limited to 500 and 20 of them would be signed and randomly inserted into the order with his signature turf shoe. UA didn’t understand or act like they cared at all. I believe I may have had one of the auto cards as I don’t think there would be much motivation to steal a base card. My only course of action was to reach out to a PSA contact I knew was involved in the project, and he very graciously was able to mail me a base card so at least I was made somewhat whole. This industry and special events like this need to have strict controls, and it seems like every company is failing at this.
Additionally, do you remember all the F1 padparadsha duplicates that were stolen from the facility in Italy and sold on eBay in Italy? Those in possession of those cards were told to send them back to Topps or face either civil and criminal action, I’m not sure which.
How cool would it be if Giannis bought the 1 of 1 and has it signed in person then slabbed? If slabbed and authenticated by PSA, and knowing if put for sale you're getting it from Giannis personal collection, that could sell for as much as the true 1 of 1 in my opinion.
I don’t think the manufacturers care about security as much because cards are cards to them. A 1/10 QB card worth $10,000 cost them the same to make as a $1 LB or OL card. It’s not like they are spending $5,000 to make a $10,000 like a Rolex or jewelry company etc.
Makes you wonder how many other companies employee's are stealing from within the company’s. It also makes you wonder if upper management within the company’s is in on it too and turn a blind eye for years, then make money off of the publicity. It’s really sad when these companies don’t care about the collectors, and allow collectors to buy tons of product without any reward. It’s a trend because they allow it too happen for years to cover up there own corruption to rip off the collector; then when they are being investigated as a company they chose a fall guy so they can continue with there corruption. The Trading card world is a hustle to rip people off and make more money!!!
With the value of these cars going higher and higher, they need to start hiring retired law enforcement. While the upfront cost might be high, the risk of these types of events will be very low.
Well what else is it when you buy cards get a redemption and they never honor it? Also trying to put a cut off date when they failed to have a complete product on release. Most countries have laws preventing this behavior. But for some reason in the US the consumers loses when a manufacturer fails to deliver a finished product.
I don’t like how long the “grading” portion of PSA takes. To much time for the grader to buy a duplicate off eBay and swap it out. Is their process on camera?
seems like a tricky insurance situation for this industry when the companies that manufacture and produce these cards (made of cardboard) and until technically dosent hold value until it hits the market place for public demand to determine the value. So how do they claim these stolen cards and report the loss as “ potential market value” . Unless I specifically insure items for a mandatory appraised value, I cannot just claim a stolen item valued X. Seems a bit inssurance scammy if u ask me
I'm a tad bit dirt with Topps. I actually am missing a card from the American USA cards. I instead got a dodgy generic response from them as an email. However I couldn't card for the auto cause I can not stand LeBron James. But to me it was a special thing for myself and one my nephews as we were meant to have a copy each. Instead I gave the only copy that shown up in the mail to him. And all I want to know from Topps is if they gonna compensate or if I should risk it and buy a card off Ebay
There will be more of this as money becomes worth less and products and service cost more. Desperation is kicking in and crime is in season. Need to run for office so that way I can be a criminal without accountability.
speaking of Zack Hample I was watching the Yankees the other night Judge hits# 56 guess who Catches it... I made a Facebook video of it. couldn't Believe it...
The junk wax era is turning out to be a saint compared to what is going on now and I'm going to be a judge because it's turned into a " MONEY THING" ! YOU CAN FIRE EMPLOYEES AND THEY WILL JUST HIRE ANOTHER THIEF,!!!
Hey. That means all those bland boxes that were in retail, i bought a bunch, should've had autos? I have never pulled an auto from 2024 Topps. Series 1 and 2 from retail. That crook took away that opportunity. There's more like alot of other customers complaining the same. 2024 Topps series 1 and 2, for me, was just so bad
wait so you guys know there are packs of usa basketball on ebay but you're gonna sit there and sound dumb asking where is that card and why hasn't it surfaced?? smh.
I wonder if it opens lawsuits from consumers towards the company's if people are buying for these chase cards that are not even in the product because they are stolen.. imagine if it was a top five superfractor or a high end card that people are buying the product just to purchase the product for the chase and it's not there... also I think a list of what was stolen in transparency so you know hey these superfractors or high end cards are not in there cause they were stolen so I know hey this product have these and these missing in the product
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I just got into the hobby after my last card collection at 13 years old. I’m 46 now. It’s never good for consumers when only a handful of companies are able to control the prices of a product by flooding the market.
That was my immediate thought when I got back into collecting 2-3 years ago. I realized that quickly that Panini was running the whole hobby and, like you, thought that can’t be good. Without any competition it’s no pressure for the hobby to evolve and improve.
@@n.frankliniii3699 it’s called a monopoly. It’s actually against the law.
@@n.frankliniii3699 if consumers stopped buying all this extra stuff, we would control the market and the cards we have would be a more legitimate investment.
Your timeline is crazy. I’m 46 and just got back into after not collecting since I was 13 lol. Forgot how much I love collecting!
@DudeYourDad lol I turned 46 in July this year and started to collect again. Mostly ufc, hockey, and star wars but a little football. Lost my collection from a kid.
This is why I will never trust these vault services. Like ever. I rather have my cards in my possession.
100 on that! No way I am shipping my cards off for someone else to hold them. Makes no sense to me.
At least the vaults insure the cards. That is some assurance
I won’t even send any for grading. My opinions on grading is a convo for another day. I don’t trust they’d even get there. And insurance is not going to save you when some lowlife scans everything to make it look like it got to your mailbox. Then not only would you be getting robbed, you’d also be treated like a crook yourself.
So, you're saying there's a job opening at Upper Deck....
Haha, I suppose there is!
@@SportsCardInvestor they're stealing cards because the Biden/Harris economy has been in shambles. We need to get Trump in ASAP!!!
🤣
🖐️🖐️ soooo… does this mean the expensive boxes we are all buying has fewer redemption and big chase cards because they were stolen instead of putting them into the product?? How does this get made right for the collectors who wasted money buying their boxes? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
The Hobby is getting so crazy and the card companies do not care about the kids and the collectors. It's all about the money. It is getting scary how the crime on stolen cards is getting as well. Love how you all keep us informed thank you.
been out of the hobby for 15 years. got back in 2022 to buy Purdy RCs.....months later, it was kinda crazy what exists. even numbered/autos looked like junk to me. I mean, they're just completely making up these numbers for no reason. Ok, 49 of these autos, 5 of those autos, 500 of those autos, 1 of those autos. 15 of these autos regular, 15 of them in green, 15 in blue, blah blah blah. It kinda felt totally pointless.
Why do you care about kids? That is suspicious AF that you are thinking about kids that aren't yours.
@lawcane I know that calling people pedos is the new fad but this is a looong reach. Take some time away from the internet you'll get better.
@@JusaMediocreHuman and you're white knighting for a fellow kid toucher. I bet you are both cops or ex military and maga trump people.
@@JusaMediocreHuman and you're white knighting for a fellow kid toucher. I bet you are both cops or ex military and maga trump people.
The bigger story you won't have on here - BIG BREAKERS COLLUDING on drops from Panini. Amazing how a few big time breakers got together and bought out the Prizm Deca FOTL for $2600,, way higher then anyone thought. Then turned around and resold them in breaks for around $3500. There is nothing from stopping them from doing that on big / limited releases.
yep legally criminal behavior. RGLs vid on it was good
F breakers they are all scamming
@@listentocoach15correct every one of them. They reseal packs and steal cards.
While some breakers are coluding to get prism basketball for cheaper to sell for a ridiculous price.
Topps is at a total cash grab mode right now especially with Ohtani.
Absolutely. And for 9 years we have all been wanting Topps Football back. And 15 for basketball. Everything that’s gone down the past handful of months have me doing a 180 on it.
9:14 - this portion is perfect, sports card dealers and shows overall have multi-millions of dollars but security is nowhere near the level it should be.
Thefts, trimming cards, fake cards, fake slabs, absurd prices have made it difficult to continue to support this hobby.
I worked at a print shop that did small jobs for Upper Deck. They had guards all over the building watching over production.
You nailed it! I feel like so many shops are run very lightly so it does not reflect the value of items being sold inside. High end shops that have millions of dollars cards should absolutely be treated liked a art gallery or Jewelry store.
I worked for Topps and would travel into the NY office. It was incredible seeing boxes and boxes of cards sitting in one of the office rooms there. Many waiting to be shipped out to players for signatures, many signed and waiting to be given out at shows/conventions, etc and others waiting to be packed out. What struck me was how few people in the office neither knew or cared about the cards and cards in general. I would show co-workers certain cards like a Julio Rodriguez rookie auto (massive at the time) and they would be in disbelief when I would say, oh yeah, this card is worth $1500-$2000 or whatever the value was. I loved looking through the cards and it was always tempting but they paid so well that losing my job and being blackballed from the industry would never have been worth it. I've still got some really cool pictures and enjoy looking at them occasionally.
How much does Topps pay their employees? If you don't mind...just curious
@nylontusk1289 I was a content manager. Made around $80k/ year with bonuses. All our travel expenses were covered and we got free product occasionally. It was a blast for me. Would have done it for free probably haha
@nylontusk1289 I made $80k and bonuses as a Content manager. They covered travel expenses, costs, etc. We would occasionally get products to open also. Probably would have done that job for free haha
You were stealing.
@lawcane wouldn't have been worth it. I enjoyed the job too much. I was responsible for every step of the card process, from gathering images for cards, getting league approval for designs, creating player lists, etc. It was tempting but never took anything unless it was given to me by someone above me.
This is a danger when you post a card with insurance because if you sell a card for $50,000 and it goes missing, you have to pay for $50,000 insurance cover to be covered even though the chances of the card going missing is higher.
Insurance companies won't cover trading cards in Australia because they class it as high risk item. If you post an item, the postage/freight carrier will make you pay for the insurance cover
I once pulled a Gretzky auto patch redemption card, only for Upper Deck to tell me they didn't have any more and sent me an Yzerman auto patch as a replacement. Nice card, but it wasn't Gretzky. I complained to them but they never did anything else for me.
Thats heinous
At least you got something, I've been waiting since 1992 for my redemption.
this is crazy im waiting on 3 big hockey redemptions from upper deck and they told me 13 weeks but its been like almost a year
As of late, there’s been a steady increase of people not getting their redemptions, and having to settle for a card of “comparable value”. Now we know why
Back in the late 90's, Topps refractors were made elsewhere. I was at a show and a guy I had seen around asked me if I wanted some of the cards he had. He had an 800 count box with him. Someone had gone thru the trash and salvaged the damaged sheets and cut out the cards that were still good.
When the hobby turns into a gambling money operation there's no doubt that criminals will take advantage when the opportunity opens up. Do a video breakdown of how much breakers make for a high hyped product to see how much breakers charge for their services. Transparency of what people are losing and winning.
Why not have a Barcode on the back of the card to prove authentication. And the /# card. At least for Numbered cards also if stolen could be reported. Just a thought.
Also as far as security goes. What most people don’t realize is major card shows are basically running a casino. It’s money/chips in the form of cardboard. Target now has security cards near sports cards now bc of the issue during the pandemic. Target had no clue they were basically running a casino with how people gamble by opening packs looking for big hits
So my Upper Deck Artifacts redemptions I’ve been waiting for since January have been stolen, great news today 😂😂😂😂
What if employees of card companies during the 90's stole a lot of Jordan rare cards? The value of those cards now would definitely fascinate them.
With the “license to print money” that all of these companies have, comes with the responsibility to protect all of our assets. By allowing thieves to steal these high end cards and flip them low they are dumping into the market and devaluing the market. Someone could win a class action suit for negligence
One thing about stealing at companies: when an employee is caught stealing they can be (and usually are) blamed for all the missing things at a company. So I would be a bit skeptical of the dollar amounts in a situation like this although it will still be a lot of money involved. This situation sounds like it was someone who had the info needed to pull this off at the time of his hire OR he had some inside help that fell through. It would be interesting to see what tipped off Upper Deck.
IMHO this is a massive insurance scam. But I could be wrong.
Great show guys!
Any hustle or business that can easily net you 5k 10k even 50-100k from 1 sale of an item 🤔 of course scammers and thieves will jump on it , cards selling so crazy is the reason
That toppsnow NBA olympics triple auto got backdoored too. My package, among many others I saw on X, came unsealed, the cards weren't sealed, the package wasn't sealed, it was just open. Flopping in the wind. The order was RECALLED and sent back to topps facility before I even got it. There's 0 chance that card ended up in the hands it was supposed to.
I thought the steeling through shipping was bad enough, now they're stealing before they even ship! Sheesh!
@ 5:35 the guy in the background pulled something out of the box then slipped it in his pocket as he walked away 😢
No he didnt
Damn! Wtf
Any comment on the D's that bought up all the Deca FOTL? I'll never break with 2 in particular because of it.
This type of stuff has been happening since trading cards were invented.
I remember company in Australia having thousands of redemptions in a safe. Would be so easy and tempting to just take a few. A few cards in Australian market can't be redeemed. Wonder why?
Once I went to someone's house and purchased 200+ cards that are 1 per box. Weird how he lived so close to card company.
I am an antique dealer. I had one employee. She was a 50 year old housewife who wanted to work after her kids left for college. Her husband is a successful lawyer. Money is not an issue. She ended up stealing so much estate jewelry and silver from my storage room and safe. When I started seeing things missing, I set up cameras and gathered evidence.
When confronted about it, she begged me to not call the police. Her husband came (in a very bad mood) and wrote me a check for $65,000.
Should’ve said make it 100
I am in the Cannabis industry and within the recent few months, we had a new guy who was only with us for a couple weeks stole pounds of product mid shift. The big part is that the product belonged to another company. Long story short, the guy is facing grand larceny plus other charges and will be blacklisted from the industry in my state.
Trade some pot for cards?
So are you hiring? I dont even smoke pot so I would be a GREAT employee.
@coopstain1728 yup, if you're in Colorado I can help you out
@@darius5396 Ahhh that would be awesome if I lived in Colorado. I dont though. :/ If I ever do move there Ill hit you up! Thanks for the offer my friend.
I do not know much about pot and the industry. However, I am assuming you are pressing charges via at the state level? Cause at the fed level it is still technically illegal right? Btw, I have a friend of mine who is in CO who may be beneficial to you. I believe he still grows. I can put you 2 in touch if you want.
Yes !!! Been saying this in your comments for years. .I figured this out after buying boxes with an average of 1 Auto or Mem Card per box , Then got Panni Points instead. what a scam by Management. This was during the Card World peak ?.
Imagine being a case ripper, buying cases chasing a bounty on a card they knew was stolen years ago, I’d gather up all my receipts and go after them for damages
It's guys like you that are helping make this 💩 possible..
😂 shut up, jackwagon
Not that it took much deduction, but I called it in Dan the card man’s comment section that this Upper Deck thief had to be in management because he was kind of saying “how do you give a new employee that much access!” But if that’s what he was hired to oversee then of course you’d have immediate access. There’s a major disconnect between card collectors and producers. To producers it’s just cardboard. Sure some have expensive relics but that’s rare, mostly it’s just cardboard rectangles. The secondary market makes them valuable and if the producers acknowledge that market, then they face gambling issues. But that doesn’t excuse internal security.
For the CardsHQ Christmas Party you need to have a candy/SSP scavenger hunt. My money’s on T-Pott 🎄🍬
Topps Chrome Update will have a bunch of high end rookie debut patches and I'm guessing Skenes will be one of them, so they were not putting the black 1/1 in that set. I do think I would have put the lesser 2 in the flagship product, one in a Hobby or Jumbo and one in a Retail box.
I want to see a cards vs coins series with guests from both industries battling it out
That 1/1 triple olympics auto was sent to someones friend at Topps. 😂
I guess my question is what kind of inventory practices do you have that your not sure how much someone stole from you? Especially when most of the items that were taken is serialized?
Geoff can attest to this, but it makes you wonder how technological Topps and upper deck are when it comes to inventory control management? If it was me, every card or box would be in my ERP, and depending on value would have an RFID chip. (Manufacturer wouldn’t do this for individual cards unless they were redemption cards)
I believe I had the special edition Bryce Harper Under Armour card stolen at the factory. It was limited to 500 and 20 of them would be signed and randomly inserted into the order with his signature turf shoe. UA didn’t understand or act like they cared at all. I believe I may have had one of the auto cards as I don’t think there would be much motivation to steal a base card. My only course of action was to reach out to a PSA contact I knew was involved in the project, and he very graciously was able to mail me a base card so at least I was made somewhat whole. This industry and special events like this need to have strict controls, and it seems like every company is failing at this.
Additionally, do you remember all the F1 padparadsha duplicates that were stolen from the facility in Italy and sold on eBay in Italy? Those in possession of those cards were told to send them back to Topps or face either civil and criminal action, I’m not sure which.
Thank you for upgrading your mics again. Was getting too much echo recently.
How cool would it be if Giannis bought the 1 of 1 and has it signed in person then slabbed? If slabbed and authenticated by PSA, and knowing if put for sale you're getting it from Giannis personal collection, that could sell for as much as the true 1 of 1 in my opinion.
Giannis is a businessman and he collects cards. Not going to be surprised if this is the case.
I love T pots optimism that a little kid would pull the 1/1 Ohtani if it were in update but we all know a prominent breaker would get it lol
only a matter of time sadly until we have a heavy armed hold up in a collectacon/cardshow
Makes you wonder how well their online security is. What if someone hacked UD and had a bunch of redemptions sent out to select addresses?
Wow!! That's where my redemption went!!
Shouldn’t be allowed to do redemptions.
Main reason why I dont buy hobby.
Redemption should only be used on a high dollar card so it won't get messed Up in a box that's the only time it should happen.
redemptions seem completely frivolous. just put the cards in the packs. maybe they have a point. but I don't get it.
Allowed by whom? You think the government should make a law? 🤡
At 5:53 you might want to see if that guy in the background just pocketed a card. 😮
It’s modern day gambling and hi my name is Steve and I’m an addict 😂😂🎉
I don’t think the manufacturers care about security as much because cards are cards to them. A 1/10 QB card worth $10,000 cost them the same to make as a $1 LB or OL card.
It’s not like they are spending $5,000 to make a $10,000 like a Rolex or jewelry company etc.
News Flash: There are many, many shady people in the sports card industry.
Where are people finding $$$ to rip open product to only find nothing? Be aware and hedge wisely during the calamity...God Bless!
when a member of staff does this, you have to also look at the wages of these peeps to try and keep them happy.
Yes, be suspicious of the guy that insists on always being the last to leave and also asking about where the cameras are located
Probably happened to my 1/1 redemption that was denied
I heard the new policy is 2 to 3 employees must at all times work together , this way they watch each other
No heard wrong
Makes you wonder how many other companies employee's are stealing from within the company’s. It also makes you wonder if upper management within the company’s is in on it too and turn a blind eye for years, then make money off of the publicity. It’s really sad when these companies don’t care about the collectors, and allow collectors to buy tons of product without any reward. It’s a trend because they allow it too happen for years to cover up there own corruption to rip off the collector; then when they are being investigated as a company they chose a fall guy so they can continue with there corruption. The Trading card world is a hustle to rip people off and make more money!!!
With the value of these cars going higher and higher, they need to start hiring retired law enforcement. While the upfront cost might be high, the risk of these types of events will be very low.
On the Ohtani sets, Topps gets to hang onto the money paid by consumers for 2 months to draw interest or whatever return Topps looks for short term.
T -Pott is 100% We never know how many you were made. Thanks for your knowledge.
Well what else is it when you buy cards get a redemption and they never honor it?
Also trying to put a cut off date when they failed to have a complete product on release.
Most countries have laws preventing this behavior.
But for some reason in the US the consumers loses when a manufacturer fails to deliver a finished product.
Addiction is happening in the hobby. People steal to feed addictions.
Security should be like a coin Mint. Check on the way in, check on the way out, some of these cards are worth more than gold!
I don’t like how long the “grading” portion of PSA takes. To much time for the grader to buy a duplicate off eBay and swap it out. Is their process on camera?
seems like a tricky insurance situation for this industry when the companies that manufacture and produce these cards (made of cardboard) and until technically dosent hold value until it hits the market place for public demand to determine the value. So how do they claim these stolen cards and report the loss as “ potential market value” . Unless I specifically insure items for a mandatory appraised value, I cannot just claim a stolen item valued X. Seems a bit inssurance scammy if u ask me
I bet Panini is doing the same thing. They don't fill redemptions and takes over a month for customer service to even respond and say nothing.
I never got a single pack from Topps Chrome when they made the Bobby Witt fiasco. I’m sure the employees kept them all.
I'm a tad bit dirt with Topps. I actually am missing a card from the American USA cards. I instead got a dodgy generic response from them as an email. However I couldn't card for the auto cause I can not stand LeBron James. But to me it was a special thing for myself and one my nephews as we were meant to have a copy each. Instead I gave the only copy that shown up in the mail to him. And all I want to know from Topps is if they gonna compensate or if I should risk it and buy a card off Ebay
After the McDonald's Monopoly debacle, all of these companies should know better. There is no excuse.
Perfect storm of everything costing an arm and a leg, bad morals, opportunist mindset, etc... The same thing happens with Hot Wheels by the way. 🤬
All these cards getting stolen and absolutely no one getting caught lol 😂😂
There will be more of this as money becomes worth less and products and service cost more. Desperation is kicking in and crime is in season. Need to run for office so that way I can be a criminal without accountability.
agree 100% on $99 /box.
I would of given to the..wait damn T-pot!!😂 jkjk
All card companies should just get rid of redemptions all together. If the set is being released to the public, then all cards should be available.
Anything new on the thieves from the Dallas show ?they ever caught ?
I haven't heard they were caught or any of them.
@@Darren-xj7fg seems like it's a forgotten thing now
Out of site out of mind they ll never get caught
Doubt that, I think they will get caught within maybe six months.
speaking of Zack Hample I was watching the Yankees the other night Judge hits# 56 guess who Catches it... I made a Facebook video of it. couldn't Believe it...
yawn
Well, these companies definitely have enough money to put great security measures in place so this doesn't happen.
The junk wax era is turning out to be a saint compared to what is going on now and I'm going to be a judge because it's turned into a " MONEY THING" ! YOU CAN FIRE EMPLOYEES AND THEY WILL JUST HIRE ANOTHER THIEF,!!!
Companies shouldn't be allowed to send out redemption without having the product on hand, like panini is doing to me right now
Hey. That means all those bland boxes that were in retail, i bought a bunch, should've had autos? I have never pulled an auto from 2024 Topps. Series 1 and 2 from retail. That crook took away that opportunity. There's more like alot of other customers complaining the same. 2024 Topps series 1 and 2, for me, was just so bad
What would stop PSA graders from replacing your 10, with their own 8?
25k was absolutely a fair offer. not one person thought the card would go for 53. unfortunately that was your only fair offer. 😂.
I would think some sort of insurance for these companies would be important
Hey at my job I'm on camera all the time. Topps can't afford security or cameras
Yeah really. Should be cameras everywhere, this makes them look bad.
Bought a box of 50/50. I understand that I purchased 50 $1 cards and a $10 card. Thought it might be interesting.
Are card manufacturers familiar with reputational risk? Or internal controls?
wait so you guys know there are packs of usa basketball on ebay but you're gonna sit there and sound dumb asking where is that card and why hasn't it surfaced?? smh.
Jeff is the best at Christmas lawsuits
Fun conversations
I wonder if it opens lawsuits from consumers towards the company's if people are buying for these chase cards that are not even in the product because they are stolen.. imagine if it was a top five superfractor or a high end card that people are buying the product just to purchase the product for the chase and it's not there... also I think a list of what was stolen in transparency so you know hey these superfractors or high end cards are not in there cause they were stolen so I know hey this product have these and these missing in the product
3 words for those who have been waiting 5+ years for their redemption cards:
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT
The industry is already garbage with flooded market of inserts… now employees are stealing and reselling….
the triple auto is the same place the bedard outburst 1/1 young guns is. in the ceo's safe....
they essentially work at money printing facilities... need another level of protection.