Neo Geo MVSX Complete and Honest Review: Should You Buy It?
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Forgot to mention this has Save States, a much appreciated touch
I'll do a final livestream with the MVSX this weekend, let me know which games to play! And if you want to preorder, use this affiliate link to support the channel: amzn.to/3mTuBiw
Since there are approximately 10 Genres represented in Neo Geo MVSX, I then recommend for you to choose the best of each genre. This list of games are generally assumed to be the best across the board. Garou Mark of the wolves, The King of Fighters '98 or 2002, The Last Blade 2, Baseball Stars should be 2 but not available, Samurai Shodown II or lV, World Heroes Perfect, Fatal Fury Special 1993 or Real Bout Fatal Fury 2, Sengoku 3, Magician Lord, Metal Slug 3 or X
i want to know if id be able to replace the fake coin door on the stand for a real one ??? you think its real size ??
Wow man.....seriously enjoyed the hell out of that. Not kidding. I really loved it. So glad the monitor is decent. You answered all of my questions. Great video!!!!
Got you!
Good Review man the slowdown you're experiencing is totally typical for NeoGeo games when many characters are on the screen. This happens on original hardware and is seen in Neo Geo emulation as well. This is seen a lot on Metal Slug 2, Shock Troopers, and Blazing Star (as well as several other games) on original hardware. I don't know precisely the cause, but I would imagine it had to do with CPU and memory issues with the original hardware. Anyway, I believe what you're experiencing is normal for Neo Geo. Maybe someone with a bit more experience can explain the more in-depth technical explanation for it.
Agreed and I tried to represent that in the video as not really a knock against the product but it is something some folks won't like. And thanks! I can finally go back and watch you and Justin's reviews now (wanted to do this one fresh to avoid having my opinions influenced. Cheers
Unqualified Critics I think it’s a great review man... It's cool to see everyones take on the product. Make sure to promote it in the MVSX alliance Facebook group too 👍🏻 I didn't pick up on the back button showing up on the main UI, thsgs a great catch! Seems like the company is willing to provide fast updates so that's pretty awesome! 💪🏻
I used to think that's part of the charm. When it gets too chaotic on screen the game purposely slows down to give me bullet time. Years later I found out it's due to dropping frame rate and hardware issues haha.
Great review with some very good points! I can't wait for my unit to arrive here in Tasmania in November. I've spent all year looking at photos of the original 3/4-scale Neo Geo cabinet, enthusiastically wishing someone would bring a new one out to compete with Arcade1Up, and I'm so happy my wish came true!
Holy shit you're from Tasmania?! R A R E
Thanks for the video! Definitely adding to the mancave!
Enjoy, you're gonna love this thing. It's hard to put my finger on it but you can just tell the guys behind this have a passion for this stuff
Excellent review, UC! I will keep my Pre-Order because of your recommendation.
David... very nice review, good job 👏 . REALLY appreciate you pointing out things that are admitted nitpicks.
I have just ONE request to ask of you that I haven't seen or heard anyone inquire about. So you say you've been in touch with the good folks over at Unico... see if you can find out if there will be additional cabs in this format from other licensed partners in the future.
Oh and before you send off the unit, please do a demo vid of all the games on the list!
I can tell you they have nothing to publicize at the moment but that they know how much sense it makes to go in that direction. I'll prob livestream and go through as many games as I can on that my man
Thanks for another great review Dave! I plan on getting this cab next. I have Ms Pacman cocktail coming along with Golden Axe and the Dragon's Lair from iircade. I was gonna do the Marvel vs Capcom but I'm gonna wait on that one and pull the trigger on this one next! Keep up the good work homeskillet! 👍
Thanks homeslice! And good picks
Thanks for the review. Found it very helpful, as I am awaiting the much anticipated arrival of my MVSX unit, this week. Good to know it has a usb port, for firmware updates. I'm guessing the extra buttons in the 6packs means they're forwardly planning for possible games which need those extra buttons. The vertical scan line emulation is for the portrait mode oriented games, as it simulates a monitor which has been oriented for vertical positioning, like Glaga, for example. I honestly don't think it would take much to throw in a couple of 4, or 6 inch mids in the rear panel, with sound hole cutouts, and a 25 to 50 watt amp. You'd have rearward firing speakers, but the wall would spread the sound out nicely. Easy to do, as that reap panel comes off, easily. Thanks for the review. :)
Nice review! I know for a fact that metal slug 2 slowed down big time in arcades. That’s why they made metal slug X. Same game updated. :)
Great review bro. I need to get this. It’d look great beside my Star Wars 1up.
Yeah you're right, good catch!
Very informative review. Thanks!
Feel like Spongebob "I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready"
I had no interest in this cab but your review has changed my mind. Thanks UC!
Unqualified Critics,
This is the review I was waiting for! So far, all the reviews for the system have been positive, so cool to hear!
Something quick about Metal Slug 2. The game was originally released buggy and had slow down and other issues. Metal Slug X is pretty much a fixed remake of 2, so I'd play that one instead :)
Now for the big one, the games. You're absolutely right about 3rd parties programming for the Neo Geo and I never thought that might be the reason for the specific games chosen for MVSX. Good find! That being said, I think even if the entire Neo Geo games library was under the same developer/publisher, I don't think Unico could've come up with a perfect collection of 50 games to please everyone. I avidly played Neo Geo in Arcades back in the day, as well as many on the original console, and even if I was tasked with picking all 50 games for the system, there would still be those out there who wouldn't be happy. I actually sent the MVSX team my dream 50 list (ranked by favorite), which they thanked me for, and mine is quite a bit different from theirs. I think my list is much more diverse, but as you pointed out, the reason Unico may have picked the games they did, is because all of them are actually Neo Geo developed. Here's my dream list:
King Of The Monsters
Magician Lord
Metal Slug
Metal Slug 2
Metal Slug 3
Metal Slug 4
Metal Slug 5
Metal Slug X
Samurai Showdown
Eight Man
Ninja Combat
Crossed Swords
Sengoku
Sengoku 2
Sengoku 3
Baseball Stars Professional
Top Players Golf
League Bowling
Nightmare in the Dark
NAM-1975
Cyber-Lip
Blazing Star
Garou: Mark of the Wolves
Prehistoric Isle 2
Pulstar
Shock Troopers
Strikers 1945 Plus
Last Resort
SNK Vs. Capcom
Far East Of Eden: Kabuki Klash
Areo Fighters 3
The Super Spy
The King Of Fighters 98'
The Last Blade 2
Real Bout Fatal Fury 2: The Newcomers
World Heroes Perfect
Art Of Fighting 3
Neo Drift Out: New Technology
Top Hunter: Roddy & Cathy
Ninja Commando
Captain Tomaday
Blue's Journey
Robo Army
Football Frenzy
Viewpoint
Waku Waku 7
Windjammers
Twinkle Star Sprites
Puzzle Bobble 2
Riding Hero
I also suggested to Unico that they might want to consider, if they have the means, setting up an online store to sell additional games as DLC, either in collections, like already on the MVSX, or singles. They let me know they appreciated all the feedback!
Great review and I look forward to getting one!
vgv
I asked for paid game list expansion so I'm right there with ya. I think there's a good chance we'll get it but who knows. And I completely forgot to mention King of the Monsters absence but that one was definitely missed
The slow down in Metal slug doesn't surprise me ... I remember there was a lot of slow down in those games when I played it in the Arcades .
Considering its thier first offering in this market it shows a lot of promise and i will be picking it up.
I believe Metal Slug 2 original arcade had the significant lagging too. That's why they had Metal Slug X as an enhanced version.
I always wanted an arcade machine at home, and this one seems quite solid quality. Maybe will wait for a discount... if ever come. I already bought most neogeo games I want on Nintendo switch.
I feel like people complaining about the game selection is absurd. I say 95% of their greatest hits are on there already. It would've been nice to have the full library but c'mon man lol. Arcade1up has 3-5 games on most of their cabs (I'm not complaining as I own 2 myself & I enjoy them quite a bit). One minor complaint I have is the button layout. It should have been 4 buttons instead of 6. This product is going for nostalgia & the arcade experience but for some games due to hand/fingers positioning It does change the gaming experience.
Great review! Thanks for validating my decision to pre-order. The only time I ever saw the Neo Geo system in the 90's was when I visited my friend who worked at Blizzard (he was one of the producers of Starcraft) and they had every system for the employees to play/test. I was so wowed by the system (and the price tag)! Ever since then, a Neo Geo system has been a dream of mine to own some day. Any inside scoop on when they'll start shipping?
Damn that office must've been awesome. I miss Blizzard being awesome. Not sure if I'm allowed to say when final assembly starts since I'm sure it could change but it's very very soon
@@UnqualifiedCritics It was definitely a nerd's dream, which is why I loved visiting the place. Oh boy oh boy! Thanks for the info!
Thanks for the review, ultimately I'm gonna pass on it. Since Im only interested in the run and gun games and it lacking favorites like Windjammers,Ironclad, Pulstar and Blazing Star and Shock Troopers Second Squad; I can deal with the 5:4 screen and the crap speakers that should be above your head but The 6 button layout and that fake coin op kills it for me considering that like you said most are gonna buy it with the riser.
I agree..... this is an MVS cabinet.... the button layout should have been just ABCD. Also the original MVS cabinets were known for awesome bass and sound.... would have been nice to have Atleast a more expensive audio enhanced version.
Danilo, I did write Unico and asked them to offer a Premium Version for like $599
I agree with you 100% on the button layout. 4 buttons is what it was and what it should be. Now those fighters play funny if you're use to the arcade layout.
These games are tight and this way more impressive then those generic fugly bar tops. My only gripe with this is no no ninja masters blazing star and the Capcom vs snk 1 2 and chaos. Koo video
Capcom vs SNK is led/programmed by Capcom in a limited licensing agreement. Though SNK Vs. Capcom would’ve been nice to have.
i agree..but otherwise an awesome list
I only remember ever playing a Neo Geo arcade machine once and it was Samurai Shodown which I still love to this day.
I think my skating rink growing up had an MVS with Samurai Showdown loaded on it. Don't think I ever played it at the time though, wasn't man enough for Big Red at the time!
@@UnqualifiedCritics Yeah, Neo Geo was so rare in American arcades I only saw one before and I think it was at a restaurant or convienence store or something. Samurai Shodown was the only weapon based fighter I saw for an incredibly long time until soul edge and soul calibur came out at home and in arcades.
THE SOUL STILL BURNS!
@@UnqualifiedCritics ... A tale of swords and souls... LOL
This is like the 4th video I've researched on the cabinet and like many others, this is what I think "we" want for around 500 bucks:
Even as a bar top, wider layout like the arcade for 2 players, especially since this targeting a fighting gamer.
With that, a larger screen.
Maybe "SNK LEVEL" controllers and buttons isn't too demanding.
The sound option really makes me scratch my head.
Maybe if I was an arcade'aholic I'd buy it anyway next to a room of 1UPs, but if I wanted 1 really good machine, I'm feeling this still hasn't really made that impression.
If anyone read this and wants to comment, im really interested in hearing your thoughts.... or, recomend me an alternative machine which fits the bill but doesn't break the bank much more than the 500$-ish ballpark?
Good review. This thing is really close. I wonder how easy it'd be to put a MiSTer in it.
I'm sure not hard, just comes down to what inputs the monitor holds. It's a modern screen so I'd bet it's good to go on that front but can't confirm til I can tear it down
Can you ask the developers to add the ability to boot right into a game of our choosing as an option?
Sure I'll pass that along
Would it be too much to ask to include a command list for the fighting games? Granted, I know most of these games and their special moves like the palm of my hand, but every now and then I like to give a shot at new characters. It would come in handy to gain access to a guide for those moves. An emulator has that, so why not this cabinet? They still have a few touches ahead to make this a hundred per cent desirable machine in my opinion. Other than that, quite a neat cabinet, no doubt.
Good point
Don’t forget to look at the high score. Would be great to know if they save after a power down.
You said it. Almost a must by today's standards for the high score to be saved.
Dave I can’t get any reviewer to confirm if this happens. I don’t think they do save.
Love your shirt
btw metal slug 2 had slowdown on the original too thats why they made Metal Slug X which is a remake of 2
Good call and thanks!
Nice review, I wish they would tell us if it will be able to upgrade games.
I don't think anything on that front is set in stone yet is why I don't think they've told us
If you cant add games, then there would be no reason for the extra buttons. There were no 6 button neo geo games. Im guessing there is an dubiously un advertised way of doing this and the extra buttons were the wink wink nudge nudge.
@@XX-lt6ky I just want to upgrade without buying more cabs, but I can see them doing more 50 game cabs. Prolly 3 version's.
I have to admit it looks good but the vertical width of the control deck is a deal breaker for me. I can't stand having nowhere to rest my wrist. Otherwise, great review.
10:55 that's the reason I'm skipping it, and I really wanted to pick this up too. It looks fantastic and I loved playing Neo Geo games in the arcades as a kid.
I think 2 things are pretty obvious in their thinking here:
1 - Let's mirror Arcade1up's control deck since the Marvel Superheroes cab is a hit!
2 - They would have plenty of room for your right palm if they didn't add those stupid additional buttons on the bottom row to mimic a Capcom fighter layout.
I did write Unico and asked them to offer a Premium Version for like $599 (which they probably do not have the time to do before holidays) however this version would contain Sanwa Joystick & buttons, larger 19 or 20 inch monitor, much bigger speakers, HDMI connection, full Graphics updated decals on cab with game characters, and 10 extra popular games, such as, Blazing Star, Windjammers, Nam 1975, Twinkle Star Sprites. Many buyers may upgrade to this Cab as they did with iiRcade. If you like this , then pass this on also. I would be willing to wait extra month for Premium version as would many others.
Yeah they confirmed don't have time to retool for holiday. I'm not as down on special editions as some others I just don't want a new variant to drop 10 minutes after I get mine when I didn't have that option! I like your lineup but I gotta tell ya, I don't feel I need Sanwa sticks and buttons and you know how hardcore I am about demanding name brand controls. These controls are fantastic as is. I also gave them my feedback that this doesn't need a 19" (the existing monitor is always fantastic) but it certainly wouldn't hurt! And I love adding an HDMI out and more games
5 years ago I made a replica of the neo geo cabaret. See my channel I'm now making a blue one for wide screen monitors 😁
After Retro Ralph initial review and Console Kits separate expanded review, I preordered this. However, I was very much looking forward to your critique. How can any person who owns an Arcade1Up complain about 50 games? It is insane lol. So, What would have happened if Unico took out one of the main Genres like every Fatal Fury game to make room for the one-hit wonder games like Nam 1975? People would go insane! Everyone knows that Unico/New Geo had no choice but to include the main Genres as most paramount before considering anything else. One single thing I would like you you to pass on to Unico is, Please-Extra please- Pretty please SUBSTITUTE out Baseball Stars for Baseball Stars 2! Most excellent and fair review across the board. Everyone who has a dedicated space in their house for Arcade Machines should strongly consider getting a dedicated Neo Geo MVSX Arcade Cabinet. Som e have asked about future Cabinets , but if we can add games to this one (hopefully) , then there is not real immediate need for a new Cab.
They cannot add Baseball Stars 2 as China has a grip on anything that they deem infringes on their claim on the territory. Taiwan Tigers is a fictional team in the game and China has banned it outright.
The only way is to hack the unit.
Man is this true? That sucks if so. FFS China get a grip
Thanks for the kind words and I agree, anyone into arcades has to take a serious look at this beast
Interesting, I did not know this. It does make sense when considering China's over-sensitivity concerning Taiwan. Change the team name to Tenacious Tigers adn release my Baseball Stars 2! LOL
Arcade Will that’s a great idea. Tweak the names - release the games!
Its cool...glad its coming...but will wait til there next cab release...too many fighting games and not enough variety....im more of a sports guy!! There NEXT cab will be better...i can wait...great review though!!
Thanks and I'm excited to see what these guys do next now that this cab is under their belt
@Ben Michaels And i wouldnt of bought it either!
@R-Cade-Renegade lol theyd have 3 ...people wish they had 6
Really looks like a quality product, but a hard pass for me. Will probably pick up the CMVS Ultra come Oct.
The issue with the games list is that even "non SNK published" games aside, there is more than half the library that is NOT fighters. And there isn't a good reason to have 30+ Samurai Showdown, King of Fighters, etc. games on there. It's like the Arcade1Up Golden tee was dumb because if you have 4 versions of the same game, you're just going to play the newest (best) one. It's why they will never make a cab with Pac Man and Ms Pac Man on it. Why would you ever play the inferior version? So with this cabinet, why do we need so damn many fighting games when for all series, the newest one is the best one and the others are just filler. These fighting games aren't like Metal Slug where all are "basically the same" but not actually the "same with improvements"
@ 9:48 you mentioned how good the buttons are on this unit ... That's the same time I realized that you have no idea what you're talking about 😄👍
The backgrounds in all the neo geo fighters are so much better and artistic than sf or mk
They do have a cool aesthetic
There's no way 1up will come out with an SNK arcade now especially when this have 50 + games
Yeah I'm wondering if this is gonna hurt Arcade 1up. You are getting a scaled down cab for the same cost of an Arcade 1up and it has about 45 more games than normal
I wouldn't completely count that out. A1up is planning a Dragon's Lair cab and iiRcade is doing one too
@@UnqualifiedCritics yea but Arcade 1up cabinet usually only have up to 3 or 4 games and this has all the great SNK fighting games on it too unless they get a newer KoF games exclusively on their but with a USB port this can add more games later who knows
True this definitely raises the stakes
If metal slug 2 doesn’t slow down…..
Is it really metal slug 2?
Great review, bro! The button layout is a dealbreaker for me. I need the oem 4-button, landscape layout. If they did 2 rows of 4 buttons, I woulda been okay w that as a compromise. I don't have the time or motivation to mod it or pay for a mod.
If you have a legends i dont really see a need for this. The cabinet doesnt look anything special. Arcade1up even though they have few games on the cabinets thats what makes us want more cabinets. The look of a street fighter 2 or mortal kombat dedicated cabs makes them cool for everyone who played them. Thats why arcade1up will sell multiple cabs because people will want more. If you buy this machine they might as well give you all the games you wont need to buy 2 neo geo cabs ever.
yeah but at least one neo geo cab. they look so nice
Good review as usual. Nice machine, just not for me.
Hey Louis glad you enjoyed the vid
BRUH... quickly, before anyone else jumps on it... Arcade1up just released THE INFINITY GAME TABLE 16 minutes ago!!!
I'm on it!
@@UnqualifiedCritics Quick point of interest on some KEY INFO when freeze-framing the teaser trailer... looks to be WI-FI with preloaded icons of available games with a DOWNLOAD option!! Also, in the frame, you can peep out a price on the game icons - seems they are priced at 10.00 per game! The two that are viewable are Yahtzee and Chess, both showing at 10.00.
Slowdown is normal. I have an mvs and metal slug 2 is the worst contender of this. its why they re released it as metal slug X.
Great review. Gonna pass on this though.
Thanks for watching 👍
4:3 makes such a difference 5:4 ratio is a big let down. The original MVS looked beautiful back in the day in the arcade. I'm happy with my Neo Geo Arcade stick pro. It's hard to justify this purchase for me. I think they should of offered a coin sticker instead for bartop mode that way it would be optional and when you get the pedestal you would only show one pair of coin slots.
I love Neo Geo but I have the Neo Geo Mini and a Modded cab so I have too many ways to play these games... would make a nice edition but the 5:4 Ratio is the real deal breaker for me.
They tried a sticker but wouldn't adhere properly so they went with the molded piece. And to be fair, there is a 4:3 letterbox mode (the letterboxing is small so its not really noticeable)
@@UnqualifiedCritics Cool, but its a 17 inch screen its small enough. They could of made a panel with a decal not hard to do and reverse it if you don't want the decal that's actually what I do with my arcade1up if I ever want to go back to the stock look.
Nice video tho I respect your opinion but We can agree to disagree 😊 I'm not a fan of the price tag, the flaws are just too much for me at that point I could just get just get a 50 cab and get a full skin on it or buy an original off eBay with a 161 in 1 cart and it would be cheaper. I really wanted to love this product the 6 button layout just kills the Nostalgia not the same... I'm picky but more power to whoever gets it... It is eye candy and that's the best thing it has going for it
just got mine today, the games are so pixeled they look like crap, and the control panel with the joysticks is so small it hurts my hand to use it, total let down, pass on this junk
The buttons feel very nice? You must be reviewing a different version of this machine than Mad little pixel. His review clearly shows what complete disasters they are. Eh?
Was almost a good comment but then I see a passive aggressive eh so 2/10 lame comment. We had two different physical units and I can't speak to his or his preferences or his anything but my buttons felt very good and significantly better than Arcade1up quality, as a reference. If you're suggesting I was shilling, which you are, then go somewhere else. I don't shill and I also don't care
@@UnqualifiedCritics To each his own I guess. Thanks for answering.
I have an AES, Framemister and an MVSX.
I’ve spent a lot of money chasing the “authentic arcade experience”.
The answer is, CRT. Without it, you are just polishing turds.
Garbage I’m having a custom one built $2600 70 games all the way up to ps4 wii and switch added in along with many systems
Sounds too much like ppl who dismiss console gaming because they could build a $4k pc that would be better. That doesn't make this garbage. Plus playing ps4 on arcade isn't my cup of tea but I'm sure it'll be a badass system at that cost so I respect your hustle!
$2600? You’re getting ripped off.
It looks like those cheap Chinese knock off bar top you find on ebay.
nah it really doesn't, not in person anyway
complete neo geo review and dont know nothing about the hardware
it's as complete as I can be buckokiddo, until the retail units are out