Sex? Ceremony? License? How Are You Actually Married in God’s Eyes?
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2022
- What does the Bible say about a marriage ceremony, a marriage license, and sex making you married to someone in the eyes of God? According to the Bible, here are 5 points to consider.
Timestamps
00:29 Point 1. According to the Bible, Sex Does Not Constitute Marriage Because Then There Would Be No Such Thing as Fornication and Sexual Sin in Singleness
04:33 Point 2. According to the Bible, a Public Vow Is Needed to Be Married in God’s Eyes Because Marriage Is a Public Institution Created By God, Thus the Community Has the Right and the Need to Know When it Occurs
08:30 Point 3. According to the Bible, a Marriage Must Be Formed in Public Because God Uses the Community to Keep the Marriage Accountable
13:59 Point 4. According to the Bible, a Marriage Must Be Public Because God Will Judge Those Who Abuse a Couple’s Marriage Union
15:25 Point 5. According to the Bible, Christians Should Submit to the Community Guidelines to Have Their Marriage Authenticated Unless Those Guidelines Are Sinful
19:40 Summary
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Timestamps
00:29 Point 1. According to the Bible, Sex Does Not Constitute Marriage Because Then There Would Be No Such Thing as Fornication and Sexual Sin in Singleness
04:33 Point 2. According to the Bible, a Public Vow Is Needed to Be Married in God’s Eyes Because Marriage Is a Public Institution Created By God, Thus the Community Has the Right and the Need to Know When it Occurs
08:30 Point 3. According to the Bible, a Marriage Must Be Formed in Public Because God Uses the Community to Keep the Marriage Accountable
13:59 Point 4. According to the Bible, a Marriage Must Be Public Because God Will Judge Those Who Abuse a Couple’s Marriage Union
15:25 Point 5. According to the Bible, Christians Should Submit to the Community Guidelines to Have Their Marriage Authenticated Unless Those Guidelines Are Sinful
19:40 Summary
This is very helpful for us ADHD and structured people. Thanks, Mark! 👍
Wrong. Your understanding of the original language words is pitiful. The sexual behavior called into question was deceiving someone or abusing someone sexually. You absolutely cannot JUSTIFY God's telling David that if Saul's wives and concubines weren't enough he would give him MORE by YOUR interpretation. And spare me that "culture" excuse. God bent a great many "culture" cues, but not this one? Sell that to somebody without a brain, okay?
So is marriage in front of family and government officials legitimate?
@@newbee2262 yup! Marrage vows before God with others witness is valid. There actually is nothing in the Bible about who administrators the wedding so you don't technically even need a pastor to lead so a judge is valid. Just so that you are aware that a as a believer, the vow is before God as a union He created and will uphold.
@@mikeag okay so marriage in a court is valid
Thankyou
🚨confirmation alert🚨(I’ve been asking God for a better understanding on this topic because I know of so many Christians that are fornicating. “God, I’m still confused about what is considered marriage in your eyes, but I trust that you’ll give me an understanding one day. I thank you, I love you, Amen.” 🚨I said this prayer 2 days ago 🤯 God is so cool 😁
Thanks Mark 😌
It's a lot we don't understand... Gods law isn't American law..
What does the scripture say A marriage is between one man and one woman and God where was the public vow between Adam and Eve there was not one It was between him and his wife and God
The scripture states a man shall leave his family cling to his wife and they become one flesh..
Public display is good but that is not needed It does not do anything.
If you don't get married through the state but you have a public vow before a few people and the person is corrupt that does nothing The state doesn't recognize it still no more than God wouldn't recognize your commitment when you say that you make a covenant with him and each other
@@sheldonallison5014Yeah, it's legal for any two people of any gender to get married in the USA🤯🤯🤯🤦🤦🤦👹👹👹
I just ordered your book! I left an abusive 12 year marriage 3 years ago with 4 kids and I am enjoying your biblical studies and content. Thanks for using your kingdom gifts to bless so many!
Can you leave marriage when it's abusive?
Can you leave marriage when it's abusive?
Yes you can. Staying in a abusive relationships is dishonoring GOD and yourself. You would be enabling evil behavior, and that’s not of GOD.. I encourage you to read Ephesians 5 for more clarity.
@@aliciawoods8925 good point!
@@aliciawoods8925 "abusive" is such a loose term now.
Thank you for providing greater clarity to this matter as I have erroneously stated and thought that sex with an individual means you're now "married" before God. I know better now. God bless you!
I think the conversation that more people need to be having in this case is the fact that in those days two people got married in a much different process than we do today. Today, we put emphasis on dating and saving up for a wedding before we actually are married. That’s puts a much greater time frame on it. It was different in Bible times. Much simpler. Also what needs to be talked about is how past relationships and sex can effect a future marriage, even a godly one. Much better to let God clean your soul up before marriage.
Agreed, brother. It was less on looks and more of women and man coming together for GOD. And when both were godly, you had obligations to each other and simply loved and trusted each other because you had more devoted believers. This is why GOD spoke about getting with a woman of the same belief. You can find everything you need in the holy word. He also speaks on clothing and not putting sin in others' hearts by doing these vanity things which happenned even back then. Makeup and painting your skin is looked down on by god. It's in the book , but even women believers won't listen to it. Evil has crept in the minds of our family and a real godly marriage is rare to find and it just gets passed on to the kid in a endless cycle but each generations there's more outlets for evil so it all gets worse, worse and worse each generation. We are creatures of habit, and evil is enticing to us, even in small unspoken ways. Let's start at the roots and get with the opposite sex that desires to be holy for god. If you dont do that, it will end badly. Leave the unbelievers to their style of relationship and get with those who believe. You'll be able to tell a difference in the two, but with sin still in the believer, it's still hard. Echo of a lie over time, and now there is sin everywhere.
Also remember that for much of Biblical history (and history in general) marriages were not love matches, nor was there much freedom of choice in the matter, especially for women. Often times the couple did not even know each other beforehand. It was, to be somewhat vulgar, a process more akin to animal breeding than what we call marriage today. Marriages were used to seal treaties and business deals, to expand the family holdings, and yes, to keep the line going. The woman herself was simply the tool to achieve all this. For a contemporary example, look at the marriage of then-Prince Charles and then-Lady Diana. We all know NOW what kind of marriage that was; but it was very conveniently forgot or ignored at the time that the Royal Family had been concerned for some time about the fact that Charles was still not married even though he was in his late 30's early 40's and he needed to find a suitable bride ASAP to produce the required "heir and a spare." Not just any one would do--they needed a maiden mare with the right conformation and breeding to put to their prize stud, and Diana fit the bill in a way Camilla did not. We all know the end of that story. So yes, that kind of thinking is still around. And it would 100% fit in with the way marriages are described as happening in the Old Testament. Isaac needed a wife because he too was pushing 40 and Abraham needed grandchildren, so Abraham sent his servant (not Isaac himself!) back to the old country to find a wife for Isaac from his own family line (shades of the Hapsburgs!). The servant sees Rebecca, says, yup, this looks like the one, she's doing everything I asked God to show me how I would know, and so he and Laban sit down and negotiate the bride price (another thing we generally don't do these days either). They summon Rebecca, tell her what's what, ask her does she want to go with this guy she doesn't even know to a place she's never been to marry someone else she doesn't know, and she says yes. Now, did she really want to go, did she have good reasons to leave that we don't know about, or did she, despite being "asked", really have a choice? We don't know. All we know is that she went off with the servant back to Abraham and married Isaac, who "loved her the moment he saw her". Did she love him? Did it matter? Obviously not to the writers of Genesis because they don't mention her loving him, only him loving her. Whether they all lived happily ever after well you can read the rest of Genesis and draw your own conclusions from that.
SO, if you want to live by the rules of a 2,500 year book, that is fine, but understand that we no longer follow many of these rules and customs. We, for the most part, do not arrange or pressure our children into marriages; we allow them to choose their own spouses. We generally do not marry back into our own family trees; we are far more open to interfaith, interethnic or interracial marriages than they were in Biblical times; and we no longer require bride prices or dowries or any kind of "marriage fee". We do not require widows to marry their late husband's brother in order to raise up children in the late husband's name; we do not require kinship redemption (as in the case of Ruth); and of course we generally do not allow polygamy either. The only thing that we DO allow now that they practiced back then is surrogate motherhood (see Hagar); we're just more sophisticated at it. And by the way, marriages were not only universal, they happened at a much, much earlier age for girls at least than they do today; shortly after puberty. So premarital abstinence lasting decades was virtually unknown. Check it out. There are numerous examples of women in both testaments who desperately prayed to have children (to be precise, sons) but there is not one woman who prayed Lord, send me a husband. She didn't have to.
All these things (and more) were part of Biblical marriage. I can, if you want, cite book, chapter and verse. Yes, marriage in Biblical times was simpler. Do we want to go back to that? Then we will have to get rid of so much, starting with courtship (dating) and the idea of marrying for love. There was no such thing as individualized romantic relationships; it was a family and community matter. There are places in the world today and even in the US where people still practice arranged marriages within their own communities; but to do so requires a degree of separation and isolation from the rest of society that I don't think many people who were not brought up in these cultures would tolerate.
@@theresemalmberg955 I’m catching your drift here. I believe you’re mixing up the ancient Jewish culture of the days and the message of the Bible on marriage itself. The New Testament writings of Paul are clear on marriage and seem to have had an effect on how marriage is seen in some parts of society. I don’t believe too many have fully grasped this concept. In order to do that you’d have to first believe that God can ordain marriage, from that standpoint then God would actually bring you a wife and vice versa.
@@cdrumz I don't doubt that the Bible puts great importance on marriage. Still, it seems very odd that there is absolutely no description of what makes one married rather than living together. Adam and Eve did not have a wedding ceremony nor did they exchange vows. So what constitutes a valid marriage in God's eyes? Many people have wrestled with that over the ages. What about common-law marriage? When you are living on the frontier and there isn't anyone who can stand in for either church or state, what is a couple to do?
Now the Catholic Church defines a valid, sacramental marriage as the following: marriage between two non-Catholics or even non-Christians, whether conducted by a clergyman in a house of worship or before a judge, is considered a valid marriage. So if one or both decides to convert to Catholicism they don't have to get remarried in a Catholic ceremony. However, if a Catholic marries someone who isn't a Catholic in a non-Catholic ceremony, that is NOT considered a valid marriage. This is important because the Catholic Church does not allow remarriage after divorce. But it does allow remarriage in the case of a church annulment which simply says, yes, the couple may have gone through a ceremony but it was not valid. (There are also civil annulments). The annulment process is very time consuming and it is up to the church to decide whether this marriage meets the criteria of valid or not valid. The most famous case was that of King Henry VIII and his wife Katherine of Aragon. Why does all this matter? Because the Catholic Church takes the words of Paul and Jesus very seriously. There is one exception to the no remarriage after divorce rule and that is the "Pauline Privilege". It applies to marriage between a baptized person and a non-baptized person. If the non-baptized person wishes to go their own way, Paul says, they can, and the baptized partner is free to remarry if they wish. But it only applies to non-baptized persons. If a Catholic wishes to marry a divorced Protestant then the Protestant must seek an annulment of their marriage through the Catholic Church. As you no doubt can probably tell, I was raised Catholic, so it's not just a matter of how you get married, but who you CAN marry. If one takes what Jesus taught on remarriage after divorce seriously, then that knocks a whole lot of people out of the marriage pool. It is why many Catholics end up leaving the church after getting divorced because if they can't get their previous marriage annulled then if they don't want to live single the rest of their lives, they have to go somewhere ese where the rules are not as strict. I have noticed that while many Protestant churches stand very firm on things like no women pastors (citing Paul's words on the subject) I am not aware of ANY that forbid divorced people to remarry and I suspect that that is because they know full well how well that would go over in the pews.
Amen!
Thank you for a concise biblical view on what constitutes a marriage in God's eyes. Very much needed.
You always do a great job on explaining and exploring scriptures Mark. I thank Jesus Christ for people like you that are always sharing positive teaching and faith
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The only thing he explained was his opinions.
He must read a completely different Bible. Because almost all of this is not even in the Bible. It’s a twist of scripture and assumptions to make or fit his narrative
You are a huge blessing to us, Mr. Mark.. Thank you so much for sharing your God-given gifts.. God bless you more and keep you and your family. 🙏🤍🤍🤍🤍💫💫
Bless you Mark🙏🏽. It was very very helpful. Thanks for clearing these questions up for me. I held some of those views...now I know I have to let them go based on the Biblical truth and wisdom you presented.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. This is a topic I have been asking about for a while now. The Holy Spirit answered with this video.
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Great information, MOG! God bless you, your family and ministry! You are doing a great work! 🙏🔥❤️😇
Beautifully said. I love how you were able to break everything down.
Great biblical explanation. Always enjoy your content. It brings conviction at times and gentle correction. God bless you and your family. Keep going❤
Prayed about this two days ago!!! Thank God for his timing 🙌🏽
Wait until married! You won't have any regrets!!!
Thank you Mark for explaining this. I have had many questions about this matter.
I was thinking about this the other day. Perfect timing as always brother Mark.
Wait! You'll be glad you did!!
Great video, Mark. Thanks for taking the time.
One aspect that is often overlooked in the “two shall become one flesh” scripture is conception and birth. The husband and wife physically remain separate individuals but their child/children are evidence of their two bodies physically becoming one flesh.
Thanks for sharing Matthew
Brother Mark-Thank you so much for addressing these topics in regards to how marriage appears in the Word of God and God’s take on the matter! I believe brother’s and sisters in Christ should hold the Bible as the standard in how we are to live in Society in general-even if it’s lean is naturally wicked. There is a lot of talk regarding changing/redefining what Marriage is and/or should look like, and the Holy Scriptures provide the necessary Wisdom and insight…thank you for your obedience & courage to take this on! I pray God’s continued blessings on your Ministry!🙏🙏😇😇
How was Adam and Eve's marriage public when there were no other people on the planet?
Good question,I think marriage should be a covenant between God,man and woman,the rest God will instruct them through the Holy spirit on how to live.
So helpful. For me, personally, the most helpful one thus far (and I keep up with all of your videos). Thank you. I know that our RUclips community might be considered small compared to the ones with ridiculously large followings, but your impact here is great and I think that it surpasses the impact of those larger RUclips creators. (This is a very generalized statement because it's a RUclips comment and not a research paper, so please excuse any lack of nuance or context that could lead to dispute or confusion. Thank you.)
The bible never called forication "pre marital sex"
The only reference with sexual intercourse and fornication was incest. 1 Corinthians 5:1.
🌈🌟💞🌻ThankYou for bringing out these Godly truths! Very Helpful!
Been asking this for a while, great video
My dawg, Mark. Great video. Keep doin what u doin. U helpin a lot a of people. We appreciate ur videos and the good work u doin .
Thank you for this. Very needed.
Great breakdown. Definitely in line with spiritual principles!
Very good piece.
I totally agree with you on this.
Even though I've been married once before I really didn't know what a marriage truly was I had just turned 22 and now that I'm considering marrying again I was wondering about it and here you are explaining it. I think God is trying to tell me something. Thanks for taking your time to help me understand exactly what it is. God bless you 🙂
You would be entering in an adultery union, marriage is only once
God Bless you, thank you for sharing
Thank you so much for this video this is exactly what I needed to hear 3 years ago before I walked into the "sex is marriage" trap and got pregnant out of wedlock..
Probably one of the best, insightful videos. These questions aren't addressed and many people especially those that oppose marriage or want excuses for not making taking that step.
Thank you for explaining so well this topic✨✨✨✨I gave me clarification and understanding about marriage in the eyes of God ✨🙏🏿
You give good teachings Mark!! 👍👍
Very well answered. I hope many more were enlightened by your explanations with biblical reasonings. God bless you.
God bless you too! All glory to God!
Thanks for the summary mark
I believe that you delivered an excellent representation of biblical truth. 🎉Thank you
Thank you. I will keep this in my pocket in case I get into a new relationship. If community isn't as important to him, that is a red flag. I am thankful that I learned that before officially committing to marry the last one
clearly explained.. Thanks Mark
Thank you Sir for speaking the truth in line with ELOHIM'S Word. May ELOHIM Bless you richly. Amen.
Thanks for all the info that was helpful. Was wondering how it’s supposed to happen.
Great video rlly helpful God bless 🙏🧡
Very helpful, thanks
If we are going to talk about marriage, we ought to start by defining it. Like Jesus, we must start with God’s definition as He defined marriage from the very beginning (Matthew 19:4-5). I contend that God’s constituents for marriage are very different from what we, as a post-modern American society, would identify as essential components to define a marriage relationship.
It might surprise us to consider that the very first marriage, in fact the most perfect earthly marriage, was not begun in a church building. There was no clergy, priest or preacher to perform the ceremony. There was not even a wedding! or a dress! There had been no courtship, no first kiss, no engagement or ring. There was no government to issue an official certificate of marriage. Yet, this is the foundational example that Jesus points to in order to teach about the nature of marriage (Matthew 19).
So, if God does not define marriage by a church building, a license or a wedding ceremony; How does God define the constituents of marriage? God says there are three things which constitute a marriage.
Leave. Hold Fast. One Flesh.
Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. AKA MARRIAGE. (Genesis 2:24, ESV) If one of these 3 are absent it is NOT a marriage. Therefore having sex with just anyone IS FORNICATION. Having sex with your partner that you HOLD FAST to, that you left your family for and that you became one flesh with is YOUR WIFE OR HUSBAND IN THE EYES OF GOD. A marriage ceremony and certificate is great and SHOULD BE DONE BUT ITS NOT NEEDED TO BE MARRIED IN THE EYES OF GOD.
Waoh,good explanation
100%! Great Job!
Excellent video!! Thanks!
Praise the Lord! ❤
God is truly working thru you to express what The Father states facts!
God alone is God! POINT BLANK!
Especially the point with Genders God made! Each gender was required to play there rules as God states!! Amen!!
Excellent word.
Thank you so much for this as a woman who has been married twice one husband is deceased and the other one was verbally and physically abusive, I tend to fall prey to the same thing because I have never had a healthy marriage: This helped to clarify everything for me that I had already known through the scripture with Jesus growing stronger inside me. I will stand in truth to knowing that marriage is a beautiful covenant created by God himself and I will wait for God to send the one that he is created for me that I am equally yoked with
have you thought about getting officially divorced from your second husband or are you already divorced? How do you reconcile it with scripture that tells us to not divorce unless sexual sin ( cheating, i guess) and for wife not to leave husband unless he dies? means, if we ever marry again, that marriage doesn't count in Gods eyes and also your new husband is now sinning, by being with a woman, who is an adulteress. ? I have very similar situation to yours and lately i struggle greatly to come to terms with this. You are welcome to share your insights. greetings
I don’t have all the answers. Adultery is not just about sex. I believe that adultery is that which we do against God . We cheat on God every time we sin. we choose ourselves. We choose worldliness. The world as we know right now is run by the ruler of the age, the devil. I am not married at this time. The second marriage almost destroyed me and my children we were getting physically abused as well as emotionally and mentally and financially drained. The commandment says you shall not kill. This man was killing our spirits and eventually would’ve taken our lives. I do not see in Scripture how God would have it in his will for his people to stay in such abusive toxic environments. He freed the Israelites from a toxic environment.run by a narcissist. The issue was they seem to want to go back to that though he had just set them free. They also made other gods. I seek the truth. Whatever is God’s will is my will for my life. I don’t have all the answers. All I know is I love Jesus and he comes first in my life now.
Wow...The twistings and turnings of Scriptures, translations and interpretations is truly heart breaking.
What do you mean?
It is made legitimate when it is acknowledged by the public. I see what you're saying, Mark. 😌
The only thing I stand firmly on is not letting the government in our union. Great video
How did you go about this? Me and my fiancé want to get biblically married but don’t want the government involved in our marriage. I’m just scared god won’t see it as a valid marriage if we don’t have a marriage license.
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How about if you get married through the court without a public ceremony ? Isn’t this a legitimate marriage too ? Since it is written in paper ?
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Great video! Loved the part about government hidden dynasty. I was like…carefully! carefully!!
Let’s pray for THE FATHER to give us true understanding 🤲🏼🤲🏼🤲🏼
Hey Mark, I have seen this senario happen twice before.
A brother and sister in my church like each other and are told to build in a godly way. There is sin involved and so forth the relationship isn’t pure so they never are officially dating, because the church won’t bless a relationship in sin.
Now this couple goes and gets married with the state in secret. So they come back to the church community and now expect everyone to honor this deceitful thing. Does God even honor this kind of marriage. Does it still count cause a secular judge said they are married?
What was the scriptural basis for #2?
I mean you say theyre not just social constructs based on your culture, but where it the scripture? I see only where its defined as between a man and woman and we are to leave mom and dad to initiate it.
So basically a man and woman can get on RUclips and say "We're now married" and because they did it publically, God accepts it.
Here we go with the double standard....
To the 5th point, most of the guidelines of the community are sinful now (earning more money, buying property, gaining status and power), so this point would be missing most of the time unfortunately.
Isaac and Rebecca never had a public wedding
Amen amen amen!!
Hi Mark. I agree with everything you said in this video. I have no memory of ever disagreeing with you. It is actually an amazing thing how much God seems to use you to confirm what I believe He just told me. But I do have a question that may seem silly and unimportant if I may ask it. If a man and woman that are both single get trapped on a deserted island 😁 with no rescue in sight and they greatly desire each other, can they hold a ceremony of marriage between themselves? If so, I think it should be a formal ceremony with vows to each other and to God, be a ceremony of length and substance, and include a vow to get married by proper authorities upon rescue should that occur. Do you think I am right on this? Steve
In a situation like that, I think the couple would need to defer to what would be most biblical in their conscience since there is no great proof text for something like that. So your solution seems reasonable. Others might have a different solution. Romans 14:23 seems to be relevant here
the comment i was looking for🙏🏼
Would you mind clarifying what it would look like for a culture to suggest a way of marriage that is sinful or violates our conscience? I cant think of examples
Maybe polygamy?
I agree with a public marriage, but get married by a pastor in a church with a marriage certificate, not a state issued, state controlled license. The state is a 3rd party to the marriage and it is shown as they hold the original license, not you, at least in my state. I'm hearing about Christians who do this to keep the marriage between them, God, and their spouse, not the state. Something to consider.
Sadly. Most churches demand a government marriage license, whether they require a church certificate or not.
Isn't Fornication about Sexual Immmoral sins/Forbidden Sexual Relationships mentioned in Leviticus 18?
6:01 says the marriage needs to be "public" and recoreded w/ the govt but doesnt really cite any biblical support. I was at least expecting a romans 13 ref
Consanguinity in the direct line (e.g., father-daughter, grandmother-grandson) always prohibits marriage. In the indirect line, those related only as closely as first cousins are impeded from marrying (CIC 1091), but such an impediment for first cousins may be dispensed by the bishop 1:21
Was this done this way so nobility could marry?
Would your title and position be what the bishop would be considering?
Let's get into it 😁
So, question then. Can a couple get married in a far off state and have witnesses there, but then travel home to where they live and keep it relatively quiet? Is that OK?
I also am wondering this. I personally feel ready to be married and feel called to it but I don’t want to wait on things if this world or the perfect state of being. (a point in my career, wealth, or physical fitness) I also find the idea of getting married on a mountaintop with a small group as my witness terribly romantic and enticing.
So did Solomon have 700 public ceremonies?
So what about Atom and Eve who were there witnesses if it wasn't father, son, and holy spirit
How does polygamy count in the biblical context as per what your explanation
So I've been with my spouse for 3 years everyone knows we are together we have rings and we even go to each other's holidays we plan on getting married but his health insurance prevents him from being able to marry me because he is still on his father's health insurance and we wouldn't be able to pay for his medicines soo.. do you think God sees us as married???
By Grace, By Faith, and By KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS. Why do people always leave that part out?
In revelation it says, Here are the patience of the saints, here are they that have the faith in Christ and keep the commandments. That’s the last book of the Bible, revealing stuff to you. Please try to keep the ones that can be kept.
If the verse is basically saying if a man has sex with a single woman he should marry her then if a woman has sex with a man who is not in the Lord is she to marry him? If he is in the Lord should she marry him then?
What about the nature in which ruth and boaz got married in the Bible???what can we learn from it???
So does one need to be legally married?
What if you already have kids with that person? But the marriage isn’t documented anywhere? (No public ceremony.) Am I to live with that sin forever? Do you think a physical marriage will make it right ?
Having kids do not make it a marriage
But yes, you can marry, the way you prefer, according to the law of your state.
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Not sure who came up with the idea that you could just shack up and be married??? 🤔 The devil is a lie!!
indeed, because if you go on and believe the sweet sounding lie, that when a couple have a sex, they are now married, that makes a couple, both man and woman, guilty of fornication which is a sin that according to multiple verses, will end you in hell unless confessed to God and stopped/ corrected. Who ever preaches that sex is a binding element, that forms marriage, is of the evil one, tempting and seducing people into accepting the wide way to end up destroyed....be vigilant..
Jacob and Leah, marriage starts with sex
Not sure that example counts. God says we are to generally submit to governing authorities unless it requires us to sin. But God does not require anyone to submit to non-existent government authorities. At the time of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, what governing authorities existed in the Canaanite area were more in the city-states, with rural areas such as where Abraham lived only sparsely populated with no unified government jurisdiction. Abraham and his family’s marriage practices would have been dictated more by cultural tradition than law because there was no national government around in Canaan to enforce it. The same cannot be said for the world we live in, with almost every square mile of land on earth currently under the legal jurisdiction of just a couple hundred nations. Submitting to governmental authority is simply not applicable where there is no or virtually no governing authority that exists. But it is relevant for Christians today.
What if the church pastors pray for your engagement and blessings during service?
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So if common law is a part of our culture, and the partner I've been with for 12 years is in agreement with me, that we are married, and her and my family see us as married, then are we married in the eyes of God? Minus the ceremony, and church and so on?
Fair question. Historically, most cultures recognise marriage based on acceptance and recognition through the two families - and that's it. "Public accountability?" In the Bible? How would that have worked for Christians before marriage licences?
I am about to marry a man who has a one child out of wedlock. He took responsibilty to the child ..he didnt abandon him ever since he was born.but i wanna be careful with my decisions. I wanna follow God. I dont know if im in trouble now. It causes me pain and anxiety.Could someone giv me biblical advice. is it a sin against God to marry a man who has one child out of wedlock? Thank you so much and Godbless🙏
I'd like an answer to this as well.
Jesus teaches us not to make vows. Matthew 5:33
Nowhere did i see the very important word you said, publicly.. Genesis 2:24 (KJV) Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Are rings and living together not enough public expression?
Number 5 is so important. Many men who are afraid of divorce laws argue, that they don't need to report their marriage to the state, because they are married before God. I believe that people who hold this opinion are living in sin, because they do not want to be legally committed to their partner. It seems they violate husband's love your wife like Christ loved the church. If you don't want a state marriage certificate, because you are afraid of the legal advantages it gives your wife then you need to ask yourself if you are getting married for biblical reasons or not.
This is not specifically to Juan Duenas but this reply fits under his reply topic:
To add with agreement and from a different perspective: The institution of marriage in today's western world is now an unconscionable contract. Where either party can, at will, dissolve the contract with no repercussion from the governing law. And actually encourages one party to behave poorly. The societal checks and balance of the legal contract have been neutralized. As a result, we see divorces are down. Why? Because marriages are down. We have the influx of men forgoing the idea of lawful marriage because of extreme bias in Family Law (Family Law is not to be confused with Constitutional Law, 2 different jurisdictions). However, there does seem to be a balancing out by the judges because enough time has gone by that they've seen 1st hand their loved ones get raked over the coals and ending themselves... OVERWHELMINGLY one party more than the other. Ask me how I know.
Again, unconscionable. The definition of a license is to have permission to do something that was previously illegal. What would be illegal? Tax code advantages (Also very questionablely legal). What does inviting Man's Law into a personal relationship and a God's Law institution do? I suppose one would be physical protection (by force). Another could be a compelled redistribution of resources (keep in mind that there no examples of any position that either sex can't do or perform in our western societies). And if one party can't (or won't) make ends meet, the state will gladly hand out resources. Both for the here and now. For what was designed to be the church's responsibilities and purvue, the church (as in us, the people) seems to have, by and large, lost its testicular fortitude and is all to willing to concede when things get uncomfortable. Remember! We serve the same God who called for death for adultery. And the same God who ordained and orchestrated the entire annihilation of people groups. That includes the women and the children. Talk about uncomfortable! That's the same God I seek. AND thank God Almighty we now live in a time of grace.
So we have many problems that are hard to digest and reconcile. (dissonance much? Lol)
We have a society that encourages the use of judicial system for gain. (see also: Briffault's Law)
We have man adding conditions, policies, rules, and laws to scriptural teaching (Pharisees)
We have a church that is derelict of duty (invite the church to the wedding but not the divorce. Which by the way is permitted by hardness of heart. Not adultery. And divorce was never intended but was made allowable by God)
We have an unconscionable law document (exceeding the limits of any reasonable claim or expectation; not conforming to reason; unreasonable; inordinate; extravagant).
We have the conundrum of an old (tried and true) set of societal rule books with checks and balances in exchange for a new set. The feminized set (open hypergamy). God instilled in us a hierarchy and governance guidelines in the masculine. One could argue that it is sinful to deviate from that by the 1st commandment. That our way is better than God's way and therfore we are taking the place of God.
We now have 3 generations of men (God's ordained leaders) being essentially castrated in purpose. Protection (for men and women): law enforcement gets called instead of the church's men, or a brother or uncle. LEO's have hard decisions and are in the heat of it. All men bad right? (See also: Deluth Model)
We have humanity's inate hind-brain hardwire (aka Evolutionary Phycology and Evolutionary Biology). Delve into that for more uncomfortable truths of underlying human behavior. Especially when it comes to reproductive imperatives of the sexes. The 3 P's: Protection, Provision, Parental investment.
We have somehow held onto the notion that even though the 'equal but weaker vessel' can't, by their own agency, better their station or circumstances. But it's not a matter of can't. More like (generally speaking) won't. Turns out men and women are different, by design, and on purpose. Our "Western World Society" has made every concession to make egalitarian opportunities, even to the extent of unfairly hindering.
Some parting thoughts:
I do love The Lord Our God. I seek Him and abide as much as I humanly can. I very much try not to be a stumbling block. We absolutely need to have differing opinions and interpretations (as iron sharpens iron).
I believe in the idea and ordination of marriage, just not 'the how' we do marriage now. Marriage is wonderful example of our relationship with God and for raising children.
What state certificate had Isaac had when he took Rebecca to his tent?
@@oreocarlton3343 fair question. I think some kind of contract is probably wise to protect people legally if things go wrong. I don't see why our marriages have to be "public". Prenuptials/private marriage contracts are a thing ...
@@peterrunge5501 If it involves a legally enforceable contract, then it’s public. Not in the sense that the wedding is open to the public or can’t be privately celebrated, but in the sense that the terms of any legal contract are enforceable in a public court of law and the legal outcome is published in official documents that are available to the public.
@@cbtam4333 I was thinking more in terms of the first part of your response, but good point :)
The husbands of the Samaritan woman are directly quoted by Christ, she is told to turn from her sinful lifestyle-but was "married " and yet was with someone who isn't his wife
Intentions, matter...it's not that an act of sex marries you- it's the desire to possess someone's flesh vs desire for pleasure
I ve been binging these videos and realized I wasn’t subscribed.
Can a couple get married before a preacher of a church amongst family and friends without going through the court? What would be the differences or similarities of marriage at church vs in a court of law?
Yes, Rebecca and Isaac Jacob and Leah, sex is marriage
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No, sex before marriage is fornication.
@@ecolefoyer174 there is no sex before marriage, according to the Bible sex is marriage. Jacob was married first with Leah because he had sex with Leah.
@@oreocarlton3343there is sex before marriage. it is regulated by the bible in Leviticus. after having had sex with an unmarried woman, her father has the right to deny him from marrying his daughter and also the right to force him to marry his daughter. that should be sufficient proof that sex alone is not marriage.
@@jeremiahchapman9288 father has the right to deny them living together, yes. But in the eyes of God they have become one body and if he or she has sex with another while the first one is alive he or she is committing adultery.
The documents we used to forgo a marriage license wasf untrue but we were married because of these untrue documents. My lawyer says this is a valid reason for our marriage to be voided. But in the eyes of God are we married if we had dishonest documents?
Re:1 , sex doesn’t make you married, but cohabiting as a man and woman would, in Jewish tradition at Jesus’s time. This had a social connotation that implied intentionality: the same intentionality that marriage has to have in order to be right in God’s eyes (as Pastor Mark explains in the next points 👍🏻)
Actually a betrothed Jewish couple at the time of Jesus who began cohabitating were already legally married by contract. The legal marriage took place about a year before the wedding feast and consummation.
Hey Mark, I married my wife without a wedding and without the knowledge of my parents. Although their parents knew. And my wife was not a virgin before me though I was. Our relationship is very messy. How do I go about this? Should we divorce?
Thanks for the video, God bless
Both of you need to go through some sort of repentance and deliverance. Neil Anderson's Steps to Freedom in Christ is really good to help, maybe you can actually find a Church group or Church mentor to lead you through it. It will help you repent and deal with any of these issues and receive healing. Then you could renew your marriage in a Biblical way. Don't give up on your marriage - try everything to save it! Jesus said divorce was never an option in the beginning but was allowed because of people's hard hearts. Praying for you.
You can't divorce your wife!
did you marry in the city hall? Because you said it was without a wedding.....? greetings
Please help me!
My ex fiancé and I broke things off due to differences in our views on the Bible. (I believe LGBT marriage is a sin and she does not). She doesn’t isn’t very comfortable with me doing missionary work. It’s a little complicated to be honest.
However, when I first came to Christ she was living with me in my parents house and I did not want to feel like I was sinning so we did something stupid and the both of us made some ‘promise in my room together in the eyes of God so called’.
Does that make us marriage? Or what constitute as being married in God’s eyes. Please help
You are no more sinful that majority of Christians so relax and stay in peace. My opinion is that if you had sex you entered marriage like story of Jacob and Leah, Rachel was his 2nd wife. Does only sexual touching constitute sex, idk but coitus surely does
HI Eren.
I hope this answer is not to late
You and your girlfriend were living in sin. No marriage at all
1 Corinthians 7:2-5
King James Version
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Beautiful video.
What is marriage? That does not explain it
The key point is " Isaac loved her" and became his wife. They were commited to each other and became husband and wife before the God they worshipped. Another point . Did God recognize native American marriages down through the centuries since they did not worship the God of the bible?
Fornication never meant sex before marriage in the Bible. Word for fornication is greek porneia means perverse sex, Jacob married Leah unknowingly by sex and God sanctified that marriage union, Im afraid that sex is marriage😢
I'm curious to know if your thoughts on marriage standards have changed. With changes such as the acceptance of same sex marriage, which is in direct opposition to God's word, do you still believe that Christians participating in such a community regulation of marriage as being biblical? We are now, in essence, equating our holy union with that of a sexually immoral union.