I think you forget that the upgrade function isnt an early game feature. you cant upgrade the wooden bow till you get the iron bow. At that point you should be already using scarlet gear when you unlock the upgrading function
I have found the ricochet shuriken very useful against the atlantean worm with the charged shot and its also great for the enemy spawners in the shimmering fronter since you can charge it and have it hover over a spawner and spawnkill the enemy.
@@me01010 great idea since you wont have to charge it to get the piercing I might try it soon because I'm in the middle of a hardmode playthrough with my friend.
The Ricochet Shuriken is one of the best weapons for leveling up your Range Combat skill, especially when used on bosses or when using the Materializer.
I can see why Octarine Bow is Rank C and Iron Bow is in Rank A and here's why: Iron Bow Level 7: Default: 100 - 122 (Multishot x3: 300 - 366) +17.9%: 117.9 - 143.838 (Multishot x3: 353.7 - 431.514) Iron Bow Level 18: Default: 237 - 289 (Multishot x3: 711 - 867) +41.1%: 330.174 - 407.779 (Multishot x3: 990.522 - 1223.337) ---------------------------------------- Octarine Bow Level 12: Default: 157 - 191 (Multishot x4: 628 - 764) No Buff Damage Octarine Bow Level 18: Default: 229 - 279 (Multishot x4: 916 - 1116) No Buff Damage Just wanted to point out and surprisingly Iron is better than Octarine. Hopefully it would buff out a bit more In my opinion about range weapons: Bow: I think the bows are like the shotgun-like weapons. Hold right click to charge, make you that you're close range to the enemy and blast it with loads of damage. Even better if you're wearing max level ranger armor set makes it even more powerful and getting a better damage result! Crossbow: Very great to use against worm bosses such as Atlantean Worm due to its penetration and easily melt in few seconds! Staffs: Like Fireball Staff and Scholar's Staff, I'd say it's.. a meh for me.. Throwing Weapons: Like Ricochet Shuriken, Throwing Dagger.. it is a MUST HAVE! And very great weapon, even using it against titan bosses! Misc: Such as Grubzooka, Burnzooka.. I mean, they are not entirely useless. It's useful to wreck walls!
this is an excellent assessment. for me, while I like high single damage attacks, I feel like speed is better. This is why the throwing weapons are the better ranged weapons. They're so fast they make up for the lack of single shot dmg and then some.
The high single damage like the Musket is like a sniper that you just need to get rid of strong enemies in one or 2 shots. Perfect to eliminate in a long range distance! And I can agree that throwing weapons are better range weapons but it consumes durability very fast. Still, it's a very decent range weapon overall!
From my limited use of the Ricochet Shuriken I honestly don’t like it very much. For a “ranged” weapon it is limited in how far it can be thrown. Its main gimmick is heavily dampened if not nullified when used in an enclosed space. Finally, I find its piercing shot, while theoretically amazing, to be unrealistic to use to its full potential. I would honestly put it in either D or F tier.
If it wasn't for the devs patching no more slippery movement on boss, bubble gun would've been B or A tier in my book, bcs watching slime boss/other non slippery immune bosses on slippery movement is just hilarious and borderline game breaking xD. The other potentially more useful use of bubble gun that i found is the ability to slipped away fast mimite bois in the arena. I haven't been doing extensive test on it, but i found from small test instances that slippery movement can help distracted the fast mimites from attacking you, since bcs it's moves fast, it's also slipped around fast, giving more time to attack using other weapons. It is not a very wide use definitely, but maybe someone else can have other ideas.
I think you forget that the upgrade function isnt an early game feature. you cant upgrade the wooden bow till you get the iron bow. At that point you should be already using scarlet gear when you unlock the upgrading function
I have found the ricochet shuriken very useful against the atlantean worm with the charged shot and its also great for the enemy spawners in the shimmering fronter since you can charge it and have it hover over a spawner and spawnkill the enemy.
It does look like the kind of a weapon that you can set as a trap, and perhaps it could have a synergy with the Ranger Armor piercing effect
@@me01010 great idea since you wont have to charge it to get the piercing I might try it soon because I'm in the middle of a hardmode playthrough with my friend.
You can make the bubble gun strong with combining it with the ranger set. The bubbles will hit the same target 2 times to deal double damage.
The Ricochet Shuriken is one of the best weapons for leveling up your Range Combat skill, especially when used on bosses or when using the Materializer.
Ah yes.....the Materializer setup that ive been making as well. Managed to grind range from 0 to 100 in less than 90 minutes for a new character
Would you consider having the Sticky Stick as a secondary weapon just for the effect? Does it work on bosses?
absolutely. Its an oddly useful weapon. I havent used it enough to truly feel like I get the weapon yet, but I like what I've seen so far.
I can see why Octarine Bow is Rank C and Iron Bow is in Rank A and here's why:
Iron Bow Level 7:
Default: 100 - 122 (Multishot x3: 300 - 366)
+17.9%: 117.9 - 143.838 (Multishot x3: 353.7 - 431.514)
Iron Bow Level 18:
Default: 237 - 289 (Multishot x3: 711 - 867)
+41.1%: 330.174 - 407.779 (Multishot x3: 990.522 - 1223.337)
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Octarine Bow Level 12:
Default: 157 - 191 (Multishot x4: 628 - 764)
No Buff Damage
Octarine Bow Level 18:
Default: 229 - 279 (Multishot x4: 916 - 1116)
No Buff Damage
Just wanted to point out and surprisingly Iron is better than Octarine. Hopefully it would buff out a bit more
In my opinion about range weapons:
Bow:
I think the bows are like the shotgun-like weapons. Hold right click to charge, make you that you're close range to the enemy and blast it with loads of damage. Even better if you're wearing max level ranger armor set makes it even more powerful and getting a better damage result!
Crossbow:
Very great to use against worm bosses such as Atlantean Worm due to its penetration and easily melt in few seconds!
Staffs:
Like Fireball Staff and Scholar's Staff, I'd say it's.. a meh for me..
Throwing Weapons:
Like Ricochet Shuriken, Throwing Dagger.. it is a MUST HAVE! And very great weapon, even using it against titan bosses!
Misc:
Such as Grubzooka, Burnzooka.. I mean, they are not entirely useless. It's useful to wreck walls!
this is an excellent assessment. for me, while I like high single damage attacks, I feel like speed is better. This is why the throwing weapons are the better ranged weapons. They're so fast they make up for the lack of single shot dmg and then some.
The high single damage like the Musket is like a sniper that you just need to get rid of strong enemies in one or 2 shots. Perfect to eliminate in a long range distance!
And I can agree that throwing weapons are better range weapons but it consumes durability very fast. Still, it's a very decent range weapon overall!
From my limited use of the Ricochet Shuriken I honestly don’t like it very much. For a “ranged” weapon it is limited in how far it can be thrown. Its main gimmick is heavily dampened if not nullified when used in an enclosed space. Finally, I find its piercing shot, while theoretically amazing, to be unrealistic to use to its full potential.
I would honestly put it in either D or F tier.
Came for S tier flintlock musket
If it wasn't for the devs patching no more slippery movement on boss, bubble gun would've been B or A tier in my book, bcs watching slime boss/other non slippery immune bosses on slippery movement is just hilarious and borderline game breaking xD.
The other potentially more useful use of bubble gun that i found is the ability to slipped away fast mimite bois in the arena.
I haven't been doing extensive test on it, but i found from small test instances that slippery movement can help distracted the fast mimites from attacking you, since bcs it's moves fast, it's also slipped around fast, giving more time to attack using other weapons.
It is not a very wide use definitely, but maybe someone else can have other ideas.
i have no idea what most of the weapons ar (yet) tho i m a huge fan of the fire ball staf
Scarb bomb launcher should b S tier not for damage i used it to clear my whole inner map quickly
a lvl 18 scarlet drill with movement speed gear is much faster than the scarab mortars.