Delta Force: Hawk Ops vs Arena Breakout: Infinite - Which Should You Choose?
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Delta Force and Arena Breakout are 2 very hot extraction shooter games, so I put together some info on thoughts on the latest news.
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I just realized that The Division had this eons ago in the “Darkzone.”
Dark zone, my home infected by hackers since 2016 😂, toxic area as well, as good as COD. Then survival mode was good pve or pvp. Great sound track
To be fair, Runescape's original approach to PvP was it.
Cross in to the Wilderness, kill other players and "get out" without dying haha.
Dark Zone was soo good conceptually, shame the game itself wasn't great.
Thank You!
@@iamsampeters DZ was great till patch 1.8 with these damn 6 pieces classifield, jesus.. you had team running nomad with 3 free lives 😂, took them 2 other patch to disable it while in a team.
@@ItzKamo Ah man, I think it had a heap of issues - I feel like combat in that game was generally a bit of an after thought.
Bullet sponge bosses, excessive TTKs etc.
The learning curve for tarkov is what kept me from buying that game. Hawk Ops has done a great job of dumbing it down for us casuals. The havoc mode has been fun, the vehicles need a bit of work but very impressed what they’ve done so far. Thanks stone!
full of bots, bots with dogtags DOA
There is no learning curve for tarkov
@@Prosthetics555 what do you mean?
@@petrklicz6939 What's to learn? Inventory/walking/camping simulator.
@@Prosthetics555 ye, sure 😆😆
I'm going to have to go with Delta Force after being fully addicted the last 3 weeks. The game takes the best parts from battlefield, call of duty, and Tarkov. I can see myself grinding all the content for a while
My friends and I miss the cycle every day 😢
@@brandongrotha7508 same here
tcf was probably one of the most addicting games I've ever played. The team did so well from a creative standpoint, but technically speaking it was full of flaws so I can understand why they took it down completely. I think they'll bring TCF back, eventually but not in the same way, similar to how the game failed before it became TCF
damn, forgot the name of the game as i was remembering how much fun i had. Solo Queue, nice loot/item System. Enjoyed it alot.
I really wish DMZ hadve kept going they had something special there. I remember playing it with a homie from the UK we were having a grand ol time and he said "I just know they're going to mess this up, it's too good" I laughed now here we are..
Both of these new options are way better than DMZ.
@@ThrobRoss I'm for sure going to check them out on PS5 if I can
@@ItsJustHenriHeck definitely! They would both make great console games.
Imo,. The only thing DMZ had going for it was map size/variety, vehicles and the cool extract mechanics.
Delta force basicaly dunks it on everything else.
@@ItsJustHenriHeck it became pay to win and the silly meta crap that requires you to grind for a few hrs with each gun in MP sucked. But without those it was great
I'm a fan of Arena Breakout. I'm afraid Delta will turn out to be taken over by the aim assist console kids. I will say after playing AB for over 100hrs, I havent noticed the p2w to be any factor at all. My advice is to stay off the Asian servers because they've been raised on p2w games. The North American servers are still a lot of fun and haven't been p2w at all in my experience. I've seen a couple players but they were both bad and donated their gear to my squad. If you're looking for a more user friendly Tarkov then play AB, if you're looking for a mix of Cod and BF then play Delta. Both are great games! I'm just happy we finally have something decent to play again.
And the monetization for delta force isnt even out yet. However i dont feel any P2W in ABI. What you wrote sums it up.
Great Video! As soon as I get access to Delta Force, I will sink my teeth into it. Until then I will ABI
ABI is solo friendly.
Delta is Team focused, especially with the abilities.
Both good IMO, both fun, both free.
@@alxiong abi is kinda pay to win
@@Edson-Ragas oh it’s pay 2 win alright. But ABI takes no skill to kill a whale.
DMZ was the only reason I played Warzone. I honestly lean more to Arena breakout. The graphics and atmosphere fits my appeal more. My problem is I'm a casual dad so Arena may be too hardcore for me lol. For me its going to come down to what I can run on my pc and how my ping will look like because ping is usually my main issue due to my location
How cool would it be in extration shooters if every time a cheater was banned, they went through their match history and reimbursed every player they killed with the gear they lost to the cheater? Has this ever been done before?
@KeyJOSH8 Cycle Frontier actually did this but per raid, I would log back on each day and sometimes get upwards of 4 cheater reimbursements from yesterdays raids lol
RIP The Cycle 😭
Arena Breakout only somewhat compensates you for reporting
Arena breakout refunds you some stuff if the person you report is found to be using third party software and gets permabanned
If u think about the fact that u can buy Koen with rl money it doesnt feel like ABI wants u to get a hold of ur gear. Feels more like they appreciate if u loose.
cod is severely dropping the bag with dmz.
I think delta force really shows what changes DMZ needs. DMZ has a fun gameplay loop but no sense of progression. Take the gameplay of DMZ and the progression and armor system of delta force and COD can really make DMZ work but they probably dont give a shit
Cod dropped the bag a year ago with DMZ and I'm glad because they don't deserve the success. Recently Activision has become a predatory crappy company in my opinion.
@@Deltatwo3 lmao please explain.
@@knolsey I agreed with your comment... What do you want me to explain?
@@nathandingy nah it's not the armor system, it's the market place. You can stay with the 4 different types of vests, and 2 or 3 plate variants, and only medium or large bags. What you need is the ability to extract and sell things to vendors and a marketplace. Lootable attachments,that can also be bought/sold on the market place, allowing us to apply the blueprint variants on the fly. Insured slots just spitting out 0 attachment guns and having much longer cool downs.
I do know that infinity Ward is currently fighting with Activision over mw4, so i am certainly worried about cod ever truly being as good as it was again.
I tried Tarkov... even with my second monitor showing the map, trying to orient myself/figure out where I actually am on the map was so annoying. Then, not knowing which items were the "must loot" items. Which items I looted were good for selling vs what I needed to keep for challenges, or what would skyrocket in value later in the wipe, etc.
Then having to figure out which extraction point to go to, or getting there and it's not actually active, etc. Im a dad with a full time job. I don't have time for all that. Delta Force has been so fun. Great QoL features, everything is explained, rough prices on items as you loot them... favorited items so I know if it's something I need for base upgrades, etc... then it has the Battlefield type mode for when I just want to run and gun.
Haven't played ABI. Downloaded it when it released to everyone, but then the news on the P2W stuff came out, and I was already loving DF so I just uninstalled it.
@@MansterBear tbh I understand why you might not wanna play ABI but after giving it a try it definitely is a better game than Tarkov in the sense that it respects your time. I’m super busy with life rn but when I have an hour or two to spare I can get at least 1 mil in Koen. If you are a busy person it’s not a bad game I’d recommend not paying any money though so you don’t feel like you’re wasting money.
ABI is fairly easy to get into. On the first map you can get like half a mil to a mil koen in one hour, players aren't extremely good rn, and no matter what ur loot is, 1 purple sniper bullet is gonna one to two shot you
Cheating needs to be handled. It's so out of hand nowadays. Sadly, it really ruins the experience for the masses.
I doubt there will be real money transactions with cheaters in Delta Force because you can't drop gear to other players in the game. If you bring any items in and drop them to your buddies, then extract, the items get mailed back to you. So there would be no possibility of hackers loading in, vacuuming up the best loot and then attempting to sell it to other players because it isnt possible. They could just sell the account though
Yeah good thought I didn’t even think about that. Will definitely help with keeping cheaters out but not entirely cuz obviously people will just pay the cheaters to carry them through a raid and get all the loot for doing so. Definitely helps combat some of it either way.
It might still be feasible, but there would be a whole process for it. Like use a VPN in Oceania and queue with these parameters at this specific time, confirm that you are on the same server as the "seller", meet up, kill and loot them. Or abuse auction house in a similar way
100% go for Delta Force: Hawk Ops
Cool a race to be the first billion dollar a year extraction shooter so fun...
Delta Force all day long!
I played ABI a lot, but this time is idk, the game is amazing i love it, but the biggest down point is for me, 1. Prices of stuff is soooooo HIGH man. 2. u need magazines, in Delta u Don't .
Im glad that Delta is going different way then ABI. 3. The AI is way diff in ABI then in Delta, ABI AI is similar to DMZ AI, many times they can see u through trees, in a much longer distance than in Delta.
I love both games, but Delta is winner for Me!
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I'd be happy to pay full retail for the campaign. Just keep the in game monetization in HO to battle pass and skins.
I've played them both I liked Arena Breakout it was literally Tarkov lite. But i liked Delta more because it was because it had the battlefield game modes and the extraction part. Delta just seems more fun and that's what I've been looking for in an extraction shooter. Just wish Delta had a solo Queue but still playable Solo.
The Cycle had a system that gave you back what you lost to a cheater, hope it is the same here.
Paying for an advantage over other players in a pvp game is the definition of pay-to-win
After playing both for hours here’s the easiest take away. If you wanted a Tarkov experience that is a slightly lighter version of it if things like a mini map or map in general along with being able to see teammates, roll up bags and other stuff then arena is the way to go.
For a way more casual experience then Delta is the way to go especially with the fact you can make more meaningful money in delta than you can in arena. It’s easier to find items that have enough value to allow you to build out new setups and there are ways to get tickets to get free loadouts as well. Overall both are fun but are made for 2 different types of players
I love arena, did not even buy anything and have stuff worth 7 mil. even got extended stash by just doing quests. so yeah this is my go to game dont think ill go back to tarkov.
I just have zero desire to play tarkov ever again. Started playing in 2018 and doing the same quests over and over is just a chore at this point. It was better when the flea market was open and you could just buy whatever gear u wanted.
20:25 perfect summary and agree 100%
Delta force all the way, got lucky last night and I’m hooked!
Easy to say: Delta Force
14:58 delta force had basically gotten rid of RMT by making it so tht any time u pick up a loot from a member of ur squad random or premade even if its off an enemy players body it gets sent back to them so there would be no way for cheaters or players to sell in game loot in delta force it would just disappear from the buys inventory upon extraction and get sent as a msg to the seller
@@christopherpitts3941 ABI had it first
Delta: Movement speed and adjustment blows. Its like walking in quick sand.
I spent 100 on abi for money havent spent a fraction of it yet and it will keep me going for probably 6 months maybe indefinitely if i can keep pulling good raids
on the flipside; i have spent 0 dollars and have only used the elite coupons you get by playing the game. i have 3 million koen, and have been able to keep my starting AK i have modded. I am Lvl 23 and have been able to run absolutely gnarly kits to just HAVE FUN. Thats all this is about. Having fun at the end of the day. I don’t need to flex by playing the “harder game.” I am just having fun without spending any money. GGz
There is none of these that are a "tarkov killer" as they have very different takes on how the games are played... and both Delta force and ABI seems more like competitors to COD rather than a hardcore survival extraction as tarkov.
Even Gray zone cant really be compaired to being a tarkov killer, even though it have the more "hardcore" take as tarkov have.
Unfortunately so far nothing has been a Tarkov killer. I cant wait for the day that something is cuz I hate to love that game given all the bullshit the devs have pulled and the amount of cheaters who play.
Great side by side comparison, concise breakdowns and pros and cons. Thanks Stone. Delta Force looks like a solid game, I'm looking forward to the beta.
I am just more excited about Hawk Ops because it has the 32v32 and I am more interested in that.
seems many people are
@@StoneMountain64 It just feels similar to battlefeild 3/4 and after 2042 I think people want a new look at the genre.
AFI looks like a cloned yet more easy/updated EFT. Delta force is like a mixture of EFT (the extraction mode premise), DMZ(the gunplay, health, and movement), and Apex(with the team based operators)+ they have the battlefield style mode. As of now, I'm team delta force 100% as the majority are but we'll see as this year comes to a close. Delta force is looking like it will become a giant in the gaming industry going into next year
I've tried Blackout for nearly a week and just couldn't find the draw.
Thanks for the layout of both cases. I can't wait for Delta Hawk Ops to come out.
I agree. The studio going back on promises before launch isn't a good look. I'll be looking forward to getting my hands-on Delta force. Is Delta force going to be on steam?
Arena Breakout : You get to play ABI "Heart Attack, Fear, Disappointed".
Delta : Enjoy your game.
Love the break down and the non bias opinions great job
Man... I miss The Cycle so much. =(
Is there anything close to what it was?
Insane to me they sunset the game.
@@Deltatwo3 they couldn't do anything about the cheaters and their budget ended, so nothing to do about it. =/
I'd honestly try both Hawk ops and ABI they feel sorta close to cycle in some ways. But Cycle was a masterpiece that hopefully one day will be revived. Without cheaters and scummy devs would be nice tho.
@@MrWEST1 I'm playing ABI rn, but Cycle's thematic it's what gets me. Also, it was more arcade, which I find more fun. I'll try to check Delta Force. =/
@reportimortal Delta force and ABI are both good and I've been playing the both
The Division did Dark Zone which was cool for the time.
They were doing their own spinoff of just the dark zone extraction that just got cancelled too
@@StoneMountain64 big sad about that, got to play a beta and it was super fun!
The vots in DMZ are better than most players who has ever played a video game
I totally agree with every point. Bad timed release for AB to release the same time as Delta Force, otherwise it would have has a chance. Excellent video!
i go for delta force as i played all the delta force games from the past that where released by Novalogic like Delta force land warrior released in 2000 and so on :)
Hardware ban can easily prevent hackers form ever playing again
very useful vid! Thank you for putting it out there!
I agree with your summation, however I also enjoy going in solo with "value" gear and sneaking around taking out juiced players who have spent real money to buy their stuff. Nothing feels better in game than going with mid guns and meh gear and coming out loaded up!
They need to do away with the “renting” micro-transactions. Paying for the bigger safe containter in ABI would cost someone $120 for a year… rack it up again if you want to “rent” more storage space … that’s WILD
Delta Force has the same monetization as ABI. That being said, EFT is also p2w and has many issues with RMT and cheating.
14:10 No this is not an argument, this is just justifying P2W for literally no reason. A skilled whale will destroy you with the gear he has. Heck, with thermals he sees you before you can even react.
you're forgetting to mention the division that's also another extractor shooting that's been out for a minute
Stone 9:17 you have a 4 slot gold expensive item in your stash, and like a ballistic repair kit in your safe box. Drives me crazy 😂
Would be nice if Tarkov had a sub-server to cross platform PC and mobile like how arena breakout did and the new Beta WZ. (Unfortunately had my account hacked and a 2step Authentior placed on it....some people ruin good things but anyway I digress from my recent gaming pitfalls of experience) but yaa I agree with Stone on how a personal choice of sticking with Delta Force. Just watching you game I know the sunshine will come over thoughs mountains. Much respect and keep banging out thoughs heads hots! 💯
Its time they make AI eliminate cheaters as i would say good luck to them once AI handles it as it will remember you from your play style and voice and many other factors as it will monitor players closely so once you play it knows you on a personal level
@7:29 how did your arrow not detect that guy at the top of the ladder?
Not even a mention to Marauders lol. Though I think that is more if a niche extraction shooter.
A shame that game died out of nowhere
@@wonderousboyout of nowhere???? It’s fundamental bad game. Gun play is awful, little gun customization, the ship system is awful, just spam a ship after you’ve destroyed it and you body players and the only counter is to jump ship before you get killed… The ads are horrible. You can point blank mag dump an ad and get one banged in the face by it.
There’s no gear fear, your handed everything 2 hours into play. Very few maps, nothing to grind for. Just all round bad game. It definitely didn’t die outta no where it died on release because of how bad the game play was and still is. It needs a complete overhaul to its core game play if it wants to attempt to grab more then 400 players a month. 😂
Good game. Still playing it. It just wiped too!
I couldn't care less about extraction shooters, but I am more interested in if Delta Force's other mode can be a legit Battlefield competitor. I find game modes are much more fun when you can make adjustments and change strategies to try to claw your way back into a match that's not going your way. That just doesn't exist in BRs/extraction shooters where your match is over once you die. You can't go "wow that guy's got a good setup for clearing rooms, so I'm going to swap to a long range weapon and see if I can shut him down from distance", you're just dead. If Delta Force can give DICE a kick in the pants with some legitimate competition, that'd be a win.
I haven't played BF for a long time, but I like DF's version of it.
Not as much destruction and stuff, but it's very fun.
I've turned the tides a couple times by flanking and putting the spawn beacon deep in their line. You get some people spawning over there, create another front to fight on, then the fight for the point becomes easier, etc.
I've spent more time in the extraction mode, but the BF mode seems fun enough too.
Good thing is it's free, so you can try it pretty easily.
So far I can say delta force is dmz's replacement. Keeping in mind they do have to make money. I'll be interested to see how they actually execute that front.
I play all three! Tarkov and abi on my primary gaming desktop and other games on my laptop I carry around when visiting family and friends and all games are awesome to play why choose tbh
I been waiting to play for months don’t understand why none streamers can’t get to play betas.
40 seconds ago is crazy tho
Isn’t arena breakout really predatory? I was excited for both but I refuse to play arena if it is
People saying ABI isnt P2W are just coping because they have picked the wrong game and dont want to feel like that made a mistake.
There is a lot of Aimbotters in Delta ops, there struggling with the ESP side of things ESP is getting people instantly banned but the aimbot is slipping through the anti cheat, i have had so many suspicious deaths on Delta Ops, where as on ABI I’ve played to level 10 and only died like three times each time I’ve watched the kill feed back and it’s been genuine. There anti cheat is ahead of the game.
Level infinite is the publisher of both games. So, you know, they cannot be that much different.
I think a big problem with games that had always been a thing, but its so escalated now its insane is "this is the X(game) killer" when you say that sentance it puts such high expectations on a game that in reality is just another game. We need to stop calling games "CoD killers" or "tarkov killers" or "Battlefield killers" instead of that look at them more as competition. Competition is good for any game because it forces developers to make changes they normally wouldnt. No game is gonna "kill" CoD Tarkov or battlefield except for the developers of said game. Give the new games a chance of success by letting them be their own game
The rmt in delta force is impossible bc they made where if a teammate picks up something you brought in it goes back to you
Near the beginning, you were talking about similar games. I know it's not the greatest, but "Vigor" is a similar looter extractor. More console friendly.
Unfortunately the movement and gunplay is so damn clunky that I just can’t play it, even though I’m looking for an extraction shooter for ages to play with friends on console
ABI is more my style and closer to tarkov which i like, delta force feels more like dmz/cod which is less my style, delta force is the objectively better made game but ABI is more my style as delta force just lacks that depth as ABI and EFT, the battlefield style mode is really fun but if it's an extraction game/mode I want it to be pretty hardcore.
ABI is a good game, with this nagging feeling in the background that something is off, and it's the monetization, the prices are insane.
I Miss The Division
Is ABI coming to consoles? I like the Tarkov style more than delta. Delta seems less realistic and more battlefield to me but have barely started looking into them both
RIP the cycle, was a good game
Arena breakout has been on mobile for a year. You really don't see full lobbies that are max out on gear or weapons. Gear fear is real. Also you get paired with players with similar kinda gear and weapons. It's rare that you see a lobby with t6 gear and t7 ammo.
have you so easily ruled out Grey Zone Warfare
If Delta force is going same route as Arena B im so out, and many will join me.
i put it for access forever ago and still dont have access for delta force
AIB instantly loses for me due to the monitization. Paying for in game currency kills the in game economy simple as that.
So far DF is the clear winner.... But there's still time for tencent to F this one up too.
Arena is out, Delta Force is not. So Arena is what to play... Until Delta Force comes out. ;)
Give me The Cycle back, perfect game, cheaters destroyed it,free to play. give it back as a payed game.
I think this, this vs that shit should end in gaming. Lets just make and play good games.
Delta Force brother and it is not even close.
After seeing this I think arena breakout now is gunna b the more slapper of the tarkov killer but im down to run delta tho it looks good
Thanks!
MUCH LOVE
Both are not on ps5? Is xdefiant amy good ?
I didn't think I'd like delta over arena cause I hated dmz. But delta is doing something right and I love it more than arena. Just please don't f it up like arena. I really like the content their offering.
Standard edition of eft is 50 you kept saying 70 thought I'd clarify.
Y’all debating over this silly issue when in reality, Hunt Showdown rules the Extraction shooter genre lol
trust me it doesn't affect the economy on the mobile version at all i passed 80% of all player wealth by just playing FREE
Love the vids man!
Awesome video!
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction to extraction shooter genre
01:34 - Free-to-play model and its challenges
03:57 - Anti-cheat measures in both games
05:14 - Delta Force: Hawk Ops gameplay and features
07:51 - Arena Breakout: Infinite gameplay and initial impressions
12:27 - Monetization controversy in Arena Breakout: Infinite
15:35 - Real money trading and its impact on game economies
18:07 - Personal preferences and final recommendations
Let's just keep this simple for you simpletons, both of these games are in some sort of Beta stage, the fact they can compare at all to Tarkov is very promising.
Delta Force might fail just like Stone said... they're too focus on putting out so many feature and options like Story Mode..might cause them to fail or not finish or maybe publish a game similar to Cyberpunk.
I haven't had the chance to play delta but Arena breakout doesn't have crafting?! I want any item I pick up to have some value outside of monetary. I love lost light crafting
Everyone’s gonna just pay for BT/BP rounds lmaoooo funnnnn
Great video stone! ABI pay to win needs to go but it won't and will destroy the game eventually
Whichever you choose, it's better than Tarkov. Whoever thought it was a good idea to have no map was an idiot. It's pure laziness. All of Tarkov's design choices stem from pure laziness.
If I had a Delta Force key I'd probably be playing that because my partner is a lot more casual than I am. We played arena break out and it's good and tarkov-esque but the fact that it's literally pay-to-win I uninstalled so fast.
What's the point of playing if I can buy every end game armour, giga chad my guns and everything? Oh I died? Well not like I don't have $50 mill in the bank to buy it all again and go again.
Just waiting patiently trying to get key for Delta tbh
I mean, seems easy enough to solve. Just don’t buy things from the store. Oh you died? Don’t swipe your card and put together another kit. Gear still matters if you just don’t p2w
I’ll pass on ABI, I’d much rather play the more well rounded game with mode options and a slight casual lean. If I just want extraction I’m just gonna keep playing tarkov, the slight qoa paired with pay to win does not seem worth the investment
Can Hawk Ops be played with a controller?
Delta force should do a version of the ARMA3 king of the hill mod. No one is doing it and it would be amazing.
Great video by the way