This video changed my life. I woke up this morning and saw it, and instantly I graduated from college, bought a house, took out a loan, and won the lottery, all before finishing the video. Thanks, Shok!
Thanks for all you do Shok! As a player who's recently gotten into gold territory, I find these extremely helpful to understand how to approach certain mid champs and when you should pick them. Very cool guides, keep it up!
New to lol in general, this channel is by FAR the best resource that I have ever seen to explain how to play characters, that game, and what mindset you need to improve, really just a fantastic job with all your content, much love.
its so weird that when i finally decided to switch to mid and try my way to climb on this role i have so many videos from the one very person i was inspired to ...big thanks mate !
Same here… I actually first found his videos when looking for adc content and I now role swapped to mid because of how informative his videos are. Such an underrated channel.
New to LOL. This video was helpful for sure. One thing I’m having trouble understanding is the comment about “second item” , wouldn’t second be the boots? Or in general we all take boots second so you call the second item more about weapons and armor?
Hi Shok, first of all great video as always. I was looking at the matchup tier list and I was wondering why Irelia was so far up. From what I understand of the matchup, it would be categorized with the yasuo/yone kind of high mobility brawly slightly bulkier champs. Why would she be so high up compared to them? Is it due to her better sustain in lane due to q + slightly bulkier so she can 1v1 better?
She can build tenacity really easily from her runes (conq + resolve) and mercs are really good on her too. The 1v1 matchup is also really fked because she has infinite sustain and can easily force out your E with cooldowns that are far shorter than yours
I was about to ask for a Lissandra guide since I saw you playing her a lot recently and you uploaded it even before I asked! Thank you so much Shok you're the best league creator on yt
great Video! Any recommendation what champ(s) to pick up as alterenative picks? As in how to properly build a stable champ pool around playing liss much. Thanks!
hmm probably something that can deal with mages since liss will deal with all the melees/assassins. Maybe like an ori or syndra or anti mage assassin like fizz zed etc
Hi, nice content. Got a question about the new season changes. Which items would you say would be ideal for Lissandra in season 14? Since, you know, there will be a lot of changes. Thanks, and have a beautiful day.
Hey man, I play in low elo and when I play orianna or lissandra people don’t buy any mr against me. Do you think its still worth it to go void, or should I just go shadowflame fourth?
If they don't buy MR there is no reason to go void staff. On liss particular shadowflame feels terrible. I recommend buying Horizon instead. It's really underrated, but it feels amazing to play with :)
Nice video Shok! I think on low elo Lissandra feels a bit weird to play, it feels like she depends more on her team than some other mid laners but shes one of my blinds! Thanks for the tips
Got a Lissandra Skin and started to play her. Than remembered you uploaded a vid to her ❤. Can you tell us why you pick comet in the 2nd match and not aery? :)
Should be a nice buff, W ap ratio is especially nice for making sure you can still 1 shot casters as the game goes on and also for AOE later in teamfights
how does electrocute even work. she goes in and w+q them. alot of the time she doesnt even have a third attack if her ultimate isnt up. aftershock is better for me. gives her alot of sustain.
Love the vid man, im lucky you just posted this since im planning on picking up lissandra, About the ability max though do you think defaulting to maxing q e w especially against chase and gank junglers would be better on high ping for that disengage and wave clear since im not really looking to trade at all during lane, also neeko guide anytime soon? she is in the bin right now and abit niche so i get if you dont wanna. Thanks :)
Hey Shok. Thanks for another great guide! I have a couple of questions. First, in the section of the guide where you cover roaming options as Liss and you don't really have any good roaming options, you recommend pushing the lane and trying to haress your opponent under tower. When this happens to me, I am usally very hesitant to extend too hard when i don't have info on the enemy jungle and no wards to cover me. If that is the case, do you then just abandon the idea of harassing your opponent under tower completely or do you take the risk of getting ganked relying on your E for escape? The second question i have is in regards to the matchup guide, where you say that Liss isn't great in a draft where your sup and jungle both are "AFK" champs. I that scenario, which midlaners do you think fits the draft the best? I know it's very draft dependant as well, but just as a rule of thump, would you recommend looking for midlaners that like staying in lane a lot like Ori or Syndra?
1. You should be very hard to gank as Liss as long as you have a ward down and hold your E to disengage, this sounds more like a warding/jg tracking problem to me and if you get better at those you should feel more confident pushing. 2. Yeah something self sufficient that scales well e.g. Ori Syndra are options (although be careful if you need a dash) or champs like Azir, Lux. Tbh champs like Ahri/Liss can be okay with AFK jg/supp champs, it's just that they won't be ok if you have a bad matchup and need jg attention to help win it.
Cheap shot better for scaling, but the reason you're taking taste of blood is to make your first 1-2 backs better. After that it's pretty useless. So it just depends if you find value in those early levels having more hp
@@ShokLeague I've watched a lot of your videos tbh, but the one about the champion pool and your comments on having counter picks and understanding your matchups helped a lot i think, i only pick pantheon when its a good matchup/need ad but that made it so that i have a 76% winrate out of 26 games! Fizz a similar deal with 67% out of 36 games! Made my climb consistent
Im low elo lissandra main. Most of the time I build Either Ludens or Rocketbelt. So many players underestimate her dmg. I just can't relay on my team to build Everfrost.
This video changed my life. I woke up this morning and saw it, and instantly I graduated from college, bought a house, took out a loan, and won the lottery, all before finishing the video. Thanks, Shok!
That's what I like to hear
Thanks for all you do Shok! As a player who's recently gotten into gold territory, I find these extremely helpful to understand how to approach certain mid champs and when you should pick them. Very cool guides, keep it up!
New to lol in general, this channel is by FAR the best resource that I have ever seen to explain how to play characters, that game, and what mindset you need to improve, really just a fantastic job with all your content, much love.
so incredible how far AI has come in the last few years, it's almost as if shok is still with us!
41:45 an example of usefull flash-Q in action
Great guode Shok, as always!
its so weird that when i finally decided to switch to mid and try my way to climb on this role i have so many videos from the one very person i was inspired to ...big thanks mate !
Dude I wish there was an ADC content creator as educational and as high quality as Shok is for mid
Same here… I actually first found his videos when looking for adc content and I now role swapped to mid because of how informative his videos are. Such an underrated channel.
Vapora dark is the best I’ve seen hope that helps
@@longsnakeeye that guy is disgusting, he only plays on botted accounts in Iron/Bronze
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@@ARCANICA19hide ya kids
A Lissandra guide we don’t deserve but truly need 🎉
4:10 would you say Phase Rush is viable on Cassiopeia as well because of how good it is in the Meta?
Probably viable yeah, I still think conq should be the go to
Let’s gooo! Remembering asking for this one and Shok delivers like always. Appreciate the effort u put into these, ik it’s a lot of work. Cheers bro!
Thank you very much for the guide. I was looking into Lissandra as a reliable control mage to pick up.
Love these videos, always makes me understand what champion id like to pick up, or how to play against specific champs.
New to LOL. This video was helpful for sure. One thing I’m having trouble understanding is the comment about “second item” , wouldn’t second be the boots? Or in general we all take boots second so you call the second item more about weapons and armor?
Yeah generally second item just means second "core" item, ignoring boots
Hi Shok, first of all great video as always. I was looking at the matchup tier list and I was wondering why Irelia was so far up. From what I understand of the matchup, it would be categorized with the yasuo/yone kind of high mobility brawly slightly bulkier champs. Why would she be so high up compared to them? Is it due to her better sustain in lane due to q + slightly bulkier so she can 1v1 better?
She can build tenacity really easily from her runes (conq + resolve) and mercs are really good on her too. The 1v1 matchup is also really fked because she has infinite sustain and can easily force out your E with cooldowns that are far shorter than yours
I was about to ask for a Lissandra guide since I saw you playing her a lot recently and you uploaded it even before I asked! Thank you so much Shok you're the best league creator on yt
Thank you as always for your consistent educational mid lane uploads mister Shok !
great Video! Any recommendation what champ(s) to pick up as alterenative picks? As in how to properly build a stable champ pool around playing liss much. Thanks!
hmm probably something that can deal with mages since liss will deal with all the melees/assassins. Maybe like an ori or syndra or anti mage assassin like fizz zed etc
Great info! Thanks for the vid! Any suggestions for Lissandra Support!?
Not sure what the build would be with the new items for liss support, I think maybe you go celestial zhonya or something and just play to disrupt?
Hi, nice content. Got a question about the new season changes. Which items would you say would be ideal for Lissandra in season 14? Since, you know, there will be a lot of changes.
Thanks, and have a beautiful day.
Honestly, I'm not sure yet. I'll do a video when the season comes out covering all the builds for every mid champion
As a Lissandra main I was looking for this guide so much
great, vid i see you mentioned aery but not comet, is comet that much worse?
Comet just got nerfed pretty hard so I don't really recommend it, pretty sure aery is just better
these quality guides are amazing. you often said though that lissandra is about gank setup so i'm unsure how good she is to climb out of low elo?
Pretty sure it's still good, you can carry teamfights even if you don't get ahead through mid jg
Hey man, I play in low elo and when I play orianna or lissandra people don’t buy any mr against me. Do you think its still worth it to go void, or should I just go shadowflame fourth?
If they don't buy MR there is no reason to go void staff. On liss particular shadowflame feels terrible. I recommend buying Horizon instead. It's really underrated, but it feels amazing to play with :)
Yeah if they buy no MR just buy any situational item (Zhonya/Banshee/Shadowflame etc)
I been going electrocute with relentless hunter for the constant roaming.
Nice video Shok! I think on low elo Lissandra feels a bit weird to play, it feels like she depends more on her team than some other mid laners but shes one of my blinds! Thanks for the tips
For most of the champ guides, the hard matchups have alot of common champions like Viktor, Anivia, Syndra and Lux what do I counter pick against them?
Either gank setup assassins like Fizz, LB, Irelia or anti mage champs like Syndra, Ori, Viktor. Kassadin can work too
I'm wondering if you can do an indepth guide on Galio since he just got buffed 2 patches in a row
Already done one a few months ago!
Got a Lissandra Skin and started to play her. Than remembered you uploaded a vid to her ❤. Can you tell us why you pick comet in the 2nd match and not aery? :)
Comet was better a lot of the time prenerf, I think now though comet isn't really worth taking anymore
Hey Shok! Thoughts on LeBlancs upcoming buffs? (w AP ratio 65%>75%, E ap ratio 105%>115%)
Should be a nice buff, W ap ratio is especially nice for making sure you can still 1 shot casters as the game goes on and also for AOE later in teamfights
Does everything in here about the runes still hold up, or? I have been playing exclusively electrocute as ive been picking up Lissandra
Yep should mostly be the same
@@ShokLeague perfect thanks 😊
how does electrocute even work. she goes in and w+q them. alot of the time she doesnt even have a third attack if her ultimate isnt up. aftershock is better for me. gives her alot of sustain.
Normally you proc electrocute with auto Q auto or W Q auto, imo aftershock isn't that good anymore
Been looking to pick this champ up based on your tier list - who do you typically ban on this pick?
Evelynn is my go to ban atm for any champ, I think if I mained Lissandra I'd probably ban Orianna at the moment
Beautiful vid
Great guide!
awesome guide, You should do a ziggs guide some time
Love the vid man, im lucky you just posted this since im planning on picking up lissandra, About the ability max though do you think defaulting to maxing q e w especially against chase and gank junglers would be better on high ping for that disengage and wave clear since im not really looking to trade at all during lane, also neeko guide anytime soon? she is in the bin right now and abit niche so i get if you dont wanna. Thanks :)
I think W max for the root duration is still better, I might do a Neeko guide but I'm not that good at her tbh
Hey Shok. Thanks for another great guide!
I have a couple of questions.
First, in the section of the guide where you cover roaming options as Liss and you don't really have any good roaming options, you recommend pushing the lane and trying to haress your opponent under tower. When this happens to me, I am usally very hesitant to extend too hard when i don't have info on the enemy jungle and no wards to cover me. If that is the case, do you then just abandon the idea of harassing your opponent under tower completely or do you take the risk of getting ganked relying on your E for escape?
The second question i have is in regards to the matchup guide, where you say that Liss isn't great in a draft where your sup and jungle both are "AFK" champs. I that scenario, which midlaners do you think fits the draft the best? I know it's very draft dependant as well, but just as a rule of thump, would you recommend looking for midlaners that like staying in lane a lot like Ori or Syndra?
1. You should be very hard to gank as Liss as long as you have a ward down and hold your E to disengage, this sounds more like a warding/jg tracking problem to me and if you get better at those you should feel more confident pushing.
2. Yeah something self sufficient that scales well e.g. Ori Syndra are options (although be careful if you need a dash) or champs like Azir, Lux. Tbh champs like Ahri/Liss can be okay with AFK jg/supp champs, it's just that they won't be ok if you have a bad matchup and need jg attention to help win it.
Many players say that taste of blood is a terrible rune. Working only for 5min straight. Isnt cheap shot a better choice ?
Cheap shot better for scaling, but the reason you're taking taste of blood is to make your first 1-2 backs better. After that it's pretty useless. So it just depends if you find value in those early levels having more hp
Got gold for the first time yesterday thanks to your educational content Shok!!! Thank you so much
Congrats! Anything in particular you think made a big difference or just got better overall?
@@ShokLeague I've watched a lot of your videos tbh, but the one about the champion pool and your comments on having counter picks and understanding your matchups helped a lot i think, i only pick pantheon when its a good matchup/need ad but that made it so that i have a 76% winrate out of 26 games! Fizz a similar deal with 67% out of 36 games! Made my climb consistent
That's really good to hear! Glad it's helpful for someone haha
Im low elo lissandra main. Most of the time I build Either Ludens or Rocketbelt. So many players underestimate her dmg. I just can't relay on my team to build Everfrost.
Is lissandra still good/has been nerfed?
Still pretty solid, hasn't been nerfed since this video
Sylas plz?
Already done a sylas guide
taliyah would be nice
Done a reworked taliyah guide already
Why are people saying this is AI? Am i oblivious?
Just a meme in my discord (because real shok would never upload this consistently)
Oh Oki :3
Hah 8008 views. Nice.
So uhh GUYS press R.
funny way to spell ryze ???
When we getting normal shok back? i hate AI Shok
Havent seen anybody mention it in the comments. I take comet every game, why isnt it good according to you?
Just got nerfed very hard in the recent patch, think aery is just better now if you want lane pressure
Huh... i just picked up lissandra as my secondary pick...
Who to ban as Liss?
Probably Orianna atm
@@ShokLeaguesylas atm.
i need this in spanish
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