Swimmer intentionally swims the "Wrong Stroke" at Nationals, but why?
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
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This is a situation I don't think I've seen before, but if I have I can guarantee you it didn't happen at a meet as big as NCAAs. Thanks for all the love on the videos recently y'all. More good stuff in the works for Men's NCAAs as well as Trials, the Olympics, and beyond.
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3:36 '' was executed beautifully'' it was one of the best flip turns i have ever seen ngl
TY for calling out the NCAA for not even acknowledging the D1 meet
Perfect description of how breaststroke was invented.
also invented to make sure swimmers can ruin their kneecaps alongside with their runner counterparts
swim, swam, swum.
I swim today. I swam yesterday. I have swum since I was six. I will swim tomorrow. The meet will be swum next week.
you're welcome. 🤓
Correction on the for different strokes
Butterfly-you will either dislocate or blowout your shoulder every time you swing your arms around
Backstroke-Swim on back till you can’t walk no more
Breaststroke-I am frog
Freestyle-I am speed Ka-Chow
I once timed for a meet where one of the guys decided to do the 500 free BUTTERFLY. it was unbelievably impressive, and he finished second
I’ve seen that happen too🤣
The great Zachary Parkman
Did HE decide, or did his coach decide? Because a lot of people have had that decision made for them, for one reason or another. (I wanted to swim it backstroke, because I think I would have been faster, but my coach never let me.)
I haven’t even met this guy and I am afraid of what he is capable of. I did a 100 fly event and I felt like I was going to die
I got that beat….I saw a guy swim the 1500 LCM Free using fly…except he miscounted and only swam a 1400 Fly! He was not happy with his counter!!
a guy on my high school team did that “in protest”
That flip turn was practiced! Now I get to convince my high school swimmers that a flip turn in fly is not okay.
I have about 47 more videos to make...WHAT A MEET!!
BRO 47 WHAT💀
For real
47.42
Only 47?
As a swimmer, I love your description of breaststroke.
Pretty sure his history is reversed though. Breast stroke came before butterfly. There was no rule for how arms recovered for breaststroke so someone started doing butterfly arms with their breastroke kick and it was faster. Then they made it its own stroke.
Might be wrong though
Not just butterfly, breaststroke was THE first competitive stroke. (Crawl existed elsewhere but wasn't common in Britain when the sport emerged.) Even the first English Channel crossing was breaststroke! It is slow, but easy to learn and useful. You can keep your head above water, change direction quickly, and it still works well enough wearing clothes or only making gentle small movements. Even today breaststroke-y movements are often used when it's not just about speed: sailors, soldiers, water polo players.
I like stroking breasts is the ONLY description for real winners. 🏆
As a runner it will never not be crazy you're expected to have a certain form or else 😅
@@Michael-xl5hc No, you are correct.
Honestly I think a great move, the team as a whole went a bit slower then they did at conference but that was because of the rest of the team. Her split was faster (she did free there). Love thinking outside the box and having fun while also thinking strategically.
Freestyle is freestyle, meaning you can swim any stroke.
Front crawl is the stroke most freestyle swimmers choose, because it's normally fastest, but they're not obliged to use front crawl in a freestyle event.
Back in the 80's, in high school, our anchor leg for the free relay swam fly because it was faster than her free and actually, it was faster than just about everyone else's free. That's when I learned that freestyle actually means "do what you want" and that "crawl stroke" was what we were supposed to say instead of freestyle.
The fact that only half of NCAAs has occurred at this point is absurd
Skiib
Yess!! I've been so excited waiting for this video 🤣
I swam in the masters a couple of years ago, for once I got a brilliant start, head down for the first 5 strokes and hit the wall miles in front of the rest of the suckers for the turn "I'm killling em" I thought as I came out of the turn heading for home on the 50m fly.
Boom! I hit the wall first...I then turned around to look at the rest of the field, "er why are they swimming breaststroke?"....it was at that point that I realised I was in the wrong event.
Oh... Did it make you better at managing embarrassment?
@@benjaminpedersen9548 I wish....I was disowned by my team mates ha. On the bright side I wasn't disqualified as I wasn't entered in the event plus I didn't pay an entry fee. We still giggle about it. I placed 3rd in the event..then won the 100 later on. Happy days.
reminds me of the time when I accidentally swam butterfly instead of freestyle at the end of a 200m medley relay at a summer swim meet. idk why i did it. I think it was just instinctual because I was in the zone and not thinking, and I saw my teammate coming in with butterfly so my subconscious went, "oh cool, butterfly".
I was really lucky that I had a really good lead because the guy next to me was pretty fast, so my team still won. I think it was also my last summer swim meet because I had gotten too old. good memory.
Did you switch back to free or did you swim the whole thing fly?
@@simeonkohler9333 In the league rules at the time, if a swimmer had started swimming a stroke for freestyle, they had to stick to that stroke.
I knew immediately after I took the first stroke that I had messed up. My thought process between the first and second stroke was, "crap, I need to swim free" into "crap, I can't switch to free". My thoughts were quick, but they weren't quick enough, so my second stroke of butterfly was very weird with one arm very bent because I had tried to switch to free for a split second.
After the race, which we barely won, I got an earful from my coach lol
Don't the rules for medley say that the free leg can be anything but can't be one of the strokes swum previously? (As in, sidesroke would be OK but not fly)
@@packratty In the league that I was in at that time it said the free leg could be swam in any manner. I can share it with you if you don't believe me
Great call by the coach!!! While her fly and free splits were near equal, when you factor in a flip turn for the fly, the fly is now significantly faster for her.
Wait NCAA pools are yards? Not meter? I feel so spoiled that my high school had a meter pool. Watching our opponents faces drop when they saw how big our pool was compared to theirs was always very amusing.
Bro I just noticed according to swimcloud Gretchen Walsh’s 50 free is faster than her 25 free.
Reminds me of when my coach let me swim a 50 fly in the 50 free at our last home meet, I almost beat the kid who was doing free against me lol
BTW, Gretchen Walsh goes a 20.1 if she had a better start and doesn't reach for the finish
If she keeps her strength increasing as steadily as it currently is while placing greater emphasis on her reaction time, 19.9x practically guaranteed
I would have finished with one hand. Also, butterfly into a flip feels amazing.
Those 25 yards american swimming pools look like my bathtub 🛁
Hey all sports is a freak show - I love it, good for her! Also, our club runs the only sanctioned SCY meet in Canada, and it's right there in our meet package - our races are 9% shorter and 23% more exciting! Cheers from the Alderwood Teddy Bares.
Hey - Anthony Nesty was a legendary name before he was coaching anyone!
best description of breast stroke ever
I saw this on my own high school team, in solo Freestyle events. The guy was the best swimmer in the district by far and the other 2 teams at the meet didn't have any top freestylers. He did it to show off and to give himself a challenge and to intimidate. Won his freestyle events by 2+ lengths while doing fly (he was a freestyler, not a butterflyer). He also showed up to District Championships super hairy with a full beard (but did the proper stroke, won all his events). He shaved for the state championships of Florida.
Great (and brave) decision. She's practiced that turn a few times too!
On the Medley, I've always wanted to see someone do Fly arms with an alternating kick for freestyle leg - it's not legal Fly so should be allowed.
Isn’t dolphin kicking while doing the butterfly arms faster than flutter kicks? When I do the set where you use butterfly arms and flutter kicks, I get tired faster than if I were to do normal butterfly and I feel like I’m going slower
@@ProroroYou are correct but missed the point.
To be legal in the Free leg of a medley your stroke has to be "other than Back, Breast or Fly" so if you did legal Fly in the Free leg you'd be DQ'd.
My suggestion was to do an illegal Fly-like stroke to therefore be legal in the Free leg.
I never suggested it would be faster!
Kyle: swim..? swam-? swum?.. nah... ✨swimmed✨
Wow, I’ve never seen a butterfly done with a flip turn! Granted I retired from swimming 25 years ago, but damn she executed that beautifully!
Hey Kyle can you make a video about the NCSAs in Florida it was a cool meet!
IT'S NOT IN ANY CHANNEL. TRUST ME, WE TRIED.
The old becomes new! Back in 1965 at the NJ High School Swimming and Diving
Championships, Harvey Gerber (Westfield HS) did flip turns swimming butterfly in the trials and was disqualified. He was the #1 seed in Group A and had been practicing the turn for some time. The officials conferred and determined he did not hit simultaneously with both hands on one turn.
In the 200 Medley Relay that evening, he did a conventional turn and Westfield broke the National HS Public School Record. Remember that people used to laugh at David Berkoff until they saw his times!
my frontcrawl is almost as slow as my fly, and I do long distance mostly. I hate frontcrawl with passion, its awkward, unnatural and unsymmetrical.
What an AMAZING Meet! - and although more than 50 years ago - Gretchen Walsh would have had the MENS record in the 50 in 1971
Love your vids
I had to do 400m freestyle once on a smaller meet, but i’m really not a long distance swimmer by any means. And just like any other race I got nervous beforehand, but because i hand’t swam this in almost 4 years i felt even more pressure to perform well. So I was very nervous to the point where i was sick to my stomach. But I still went to the blocks, dove in and started swimming freestyle, and the first lap was fine, but when I swam back (it was in a 25m pool) i looked down as your supposed to do while you swim freestyle and in this pool that I was swimming in it was very weird, but where you dive in the pool was deeper, but only for lane 1, 2, 3 and halve the lane of 4. I was swimming on lane 4. I saw that and the sickness that I just forgot about when I dove into the pool came back even worse. But I just thought ‘just ignore it’ and so I did. I swam another 2 laps but again when I came back I felt so sick and when not thinking about it I just started swimming the slowest backstroke anybody probably has ever seen. But in the end I did finish it was with a horrible time even worse then 4 years ago by a second. But at least I didn’t get dq’ed.
I can confirm this was a rule change
Funny because I did similar in a meet. Was individual 50 free but I was TERRIBLE at free so I did breaststroke. BTW - Love your description of breaststroke. I came up doing breast and the guys on either side of me literally stopped swimming because they thought they were doing the wrong stroke. At first judges DQ'd me but then they reversed it. But next year there was a rule change in the league that defined freestyle as "a stroke other than the other 3 strokes". So I was responsible for a rule change which was probably my greatest accomplishment in the sport. LOL
Fly during free is fine…. @Sockwell what about the flip turn… I have never seen it at any of my meets… is the turn legal?
My couch told me that if one person do another style, the whole relay needs to do it
Where do you get speed sockets from speedo off of because I got them off Amazon and they keep leaking and so I think they might have been fake but if you know where the REAL ones are tell me plz
At 10 I had two events at a swim meet and I mixed them up by mistake. The first one was supposed to be freestyle up and back. But by mistake I did the second event which was a breaststroke up and freestyle back, I did a breaststroke turn, which is slower than a flip turn, but it did secure my foot placement better on the wall to launch myself with a strong push off the wall and having had a full breath in the turn I didn't have to take a breath for about 8 freestyle arms. I won anyway...😅
Crikey, I must have been ahead of my time...as a teenager in the 70's I swam fly over 100 yards (33.3+yards per length) especially at district level as my fly was actually faster than my freestyle (crawl)...and yes I did a flip/tumble turn without my hands touching the wall or rail. The times were a lot slower back in the day for all strokes but we still gave it go. I still think the rules should be changed about touching the wall on both fly and breaststroke especially since they changed the laws/rules for backstroke.
I definitely think it was intentional, likely because of how they had to shuffle people around. They likely wanted somebody else to swim it, but she had to be put in the slot, and they just told her to swim butterfly based on the data. Just because it wasn't the best split in the field doesn't mean it was the wrong decision.
I found it hilarious that in your apology for using yards you used the word feet. Lol.
i used to always describe backstoke as backwards freestyle😂😂
i love your humor hahaahhah
I remember Michael Phelps swimming butterfly in a freestyle event at the USA Nationals. It is my understanding that this is allowed as long as you advise the officials before event
I did something similar in '88 or '89, I always swam faster in butterfly but I was fast in freestyle too. I was just a club swimmer, not NCAA but I guess some clubs didn't like me taking all of the blue ribbons so they sabotaged me and gave me a race card that said butterfly for a freestyle race (not a relay) and as usual I kicked ass but not as usual, I was disqualified for swimming the wrong stroke in "freestyle".
I should have flipped over the scoring table.
I support her decision to swim as fast as she could. I just wish I had the same option when I swam.
100 times they did fly in freestyle races, why so surprized now? 🤔 Fly is still slower than crawl.
And why to keep calling crawl a freestyle? 😢
Freestyle race includes 4 styles of you can choose to swim: breaststroke, butterfly, backstroke and ... crawl.
At a high school dual meet, I got a band of rascals together to swim butterfly in the free relay in an open lane. We came in 3rd behind their best team and ours. The other coach was furious. I didn't understand at the time that we were being disrespectful to the others, we just wanted to swim another race, but should have stayed on the bench. Kids will be kids?
Surely freestyle by defintion means you are free to use any style or stroke of swimming you choose?
Wow every single one of your subscribers watched your video, must feel good.
Hey, I usually only watch swimming at the Olympics and have never been a competitive swimmer. Her stroke frequency seems so much faster than what I remember from watching butterfly. Of course she doesn't have the longest arms, but can someone comment on her skill? I guess she must be really good at this stroke.
I had a swim meet this morning 😁😁🤟🤟
Subbed. Finish your tangent. Entertaining video. ty
When your fly is faster than your free 👁️👄👁️
44.8?!?!?!
How do you even tell a swimmer this on a 200 freelay?!
My coach personally knows Gretchen Walsh
FREESTYLE IS NOT DEFINED AS FRONT CRAWL, But since it most people's fastest stroke it is normally used. When I competed a friend always swam butterfly for freestyle events as it was his fastest stroke. Even when he was a record holder in Masters Swimming he swam Fly for freestyle events.
I had a kid do that in a summer league meet championship meet (on purpose). The deck refs dq'd him. Thankfully the meet officials knew their rules and overruled the deck refs. (Yeah, the joys of summer league. . . )
I love this much drama for such a small sport its fun!
bro fr like im faster on my back underwater for some reason and i hate swimming backstroke 😭
So basically, freestyle means any stoke is acceptable, so long as one part of you body is out of the water at all times. Hence a perfect breaststroke, where you go completely under water, will equal disqualification. And if swimming fly in a freestyle event they don't have to touch the wall with both hands.
Swimming will never be perfect....... BUTTERFLY IN A REALLY THOUGH IS WILD!!!!!
best flipturn that is so cool!
By the way, thats how breastroke was invented
Well, I have never understood why flip turns are not allowed with the fly and breast stroke since they are faster than an open turn.
I have yet to hear any argument on the underwater dolphin kick that explains why some think it is faster on your back than on your tummy. If you watch the clip on Lochte, he is doing more of the back stroke style where there is less flex at the hip and more at the knee. Same with back stroke flutter kick.
Can't remember your comment about breast stroke, other than about frogs. It replaced the much faster over arm side stroke because it was more 'gentlemanly' because there was less splashing. The OAS is a long axis stroke, and as one coach said to me, it is almost like you are swimming freestyle on your side..... 1:02.5 for 100 yards, in 1895, almost 130 years ago....
CONTENT!!!!!!!!!!
did she swim for someone who was injured?
Under a hundred _feet_ of dirt
I was a swimmer in high school and college and tend to watch swimming in the Olympics.
I have never heard of anyone on a free relay doing anything except traditional on-your-belly crawl stroke
"Crawl" is the proper name for what is done when the event says "free-style" although no one in the
sport every calls it "Crawl". .
Since historically the Crawl stroke is the fastest stroke, should you want to win a race and were
technically given the choice of stroke as in Free-to-choose-a-stroke, a swimmer who wanted to
win would do Crawl 100% of the time ........ that is until this event where a national swimmer was
capable of doing "Fly" faster than "Crawl" for free-style.
.... so if NCAA and other bodies governing swimming want to mandate "crawl" for the term "free" then is should be just stated in the rules if it is not currently so stated. Congratulations
to the swimmer who may forever now stand out as unique. WOW
"Way to Go Girl"
66K views is pretty cool :)
i really dont get why short course (25m pools) is a thing in swimming, and so prevalent in the American college system
Breaststroke = Speed-walking
i love swim
THEY SHALL RENAME FREESTYLE INTO WINDMILL, SO NOBODY COULD DARE TO SWIM FREAKING BUTTERFLY ON FREESTYLE
the whole metric verses imperial measurement thing is an issue of confusion for every one who doesnt use the English measurement system.
Honestly what was the tea party really about?
Anyone know why she wasn’t dq’ed? Can’t do flip turn on butterfly
She wasn’t doing butterfly. She was swimming Freestyle
its freestyle you can basically do anything except push off the bottom and go into other lanes
If she's faster at butterfly AND can put a flip turn in because it's 'freestyle'...smart move.
30m of dirt
Had SWUM!
1:40 i have gotten dq'd 4 times for doing that in the 4 IM
im suprised this is allowed yk like i thought they would get DQ
The Ryan Lochte rule is stupid. They interpret it only for butterfly kicks on your back -> you're doing backstroke. Whereas if you're doing butterfly kicks on your breast -> you're not doing butterfly.
Sockwell get some sleep 😴 you looked zonked
Why imperial measure is used baffles me still. By your own law jou should use metric. Yard and inches are Defined by meters. But hey…
Free strok I, relay schould be an different stroke, free stroke on its,own should be free. An old official who suited 15 years ago, rules can be changed
Breaststroke still the best stroke
Breaststrokers are born not made. It either comes naturally or it doesn't.
CRAP - You should not be allowed to change your stroke on a whim - The coach allowed this. PR allowed this, NCAA allowed this - Totally premeditated 💩💩💩💩
swimmed???? really? no such word. did she touch with 2 hands?? expect a series of rule changes in the near future for many aspects of competitive swimming.
"swimmed" was a joke.
Thank you for the apology for yards swimming. Needed to be said.
Early
This could be covered in 2 min max or less. Do you even listen to your videos?
first
Americans. Yards. Do we need to say anything more? 🙄
Ignoring one of the most exciting leagues in swimming because of the way it's measured isn't as "cool" as you think it is
Bro doesn't know how to convert between units
Short course as well, it is more about the turns than the swimming!
Better editing next time so we can see more of the breaststroke in her race so we can understand what you are talking about.
I tried the butterfly today to check it out... yeah, no. Not for me, but I'm 74 and do not compete 🤣🧓