🛸 this is SUCH a quickly changing market that I can't possibly cover everything in this video, and will likely update as things change and advance. But as some have already noted, it seems I kinda lucked out on this handpan, as it wasn't as bad as i thought it might have been. I know handpans arent super accessible. Yet. The cheaper market is not a good alternative. I hope for that to change. Somehow.
My Handpan from China for $200 and It's a complete copy of what you have in your video.. I really wanted to try it first. Now, I love this instrument. I recently moved to LA, now I want to find a company to play Hang and chat with..🙃
@@VERT502 … Find Hamsa Handpans … they’re in LA and aside from being a great builder, he does community jam events that are open to anyone interested. I got my 2nd pan from them. Also, Acolyte Instruments (previously Nirvana Handpans) is just a hop, skip and a jump away in Glendale. I bought my first pan from them. They’re both great companies! ☺️🛸🎶🦋
@@VERT502 … Find Hamsa Handpans … they’re in LA and aside from being a great builder, he does community jam events that are open to anyone interested. I got my 2nd pan from them. Also, Acolyte Instruments (previously Nirvana Handpans) is just a hop, skip and a jump away in Glendale. I bought my first pan from them. They’re both great companies! ☺️🛸🎶🦋
@@VERT502 … Find Hamsa Handpans … they’re in LA and aside from being a great builder, he does community jam events that are open to anyone interested. I got my 2nd pan from them. Also, Acolyte Instruments (previously Nirvana Handpans) is just a hop, skip and a jump away in Glendale. I bought my first pan from them. They’re both great companies! ☺️🛸🎶🦋
@@VERT502 … Find Hamsa Handpans … they’re in LA and aside from being a great builder, he does community jam events that are open to anyone interested. I got my 2nd pan from them. Also, Acolyte Instruments (previously Nirvana Handpans) is just a hop, skip and a jump away in Glendale. I bought my first pan from them. They’re both great companies! ☺️🛸🎶🦋
@@ivymoon5084 Yes the low end of the guitar market has changed a lot and now you can get some amazing guitars for very little, as they gain experience with handpans let us hope they go the same way.
As a multi instrumentalist, that Amazon handpan sounds *PERFECT* for my purposes. I don’t aspire to virtuosity on any of my instruments, I just need access to the sounds…so it doesn’t need to be of the exacting standards of a professional who specializes in that instrument. It just needs to be playable and sound good enough in a mix with other instruments.
nah, its pretty out of tune.. you'd be better off just getting MIDI handpan sound package and use the synth or your laptop if you just need the sounds.. but this thing is a waste of money and space and metal
I bought my first handpan off Temu, returned it within a week as it was out of tune. Bought my second off Amazon, returned that one in a week as it was out of tune as well. My third handpan was bought from Yataopan based out of Germany (I'm in Canada) which is Malte Marten and friends company and it was beautiful and for the most part sounded amazing but the low note was out of tune i was going to give up as i thought id never get one that was in tune and this one had cost me $2k so my nerves were shot BUT to my delight and amazement Yatao sent me a replacement it took 5 months as. I had to wait for the next batch to be manufactured but I'm happy to say that it's in tune and sounds beautiful, yay!
I suspect Amazon buys from Temu and just marks it up to make a profit... I personally wouldn't buy anything from Temu, and if Amazon is advertising things I've seen on Temu, I would seriously reconsider the purchase, as I know most things sold on Temu are of low quality and unless it's also cheap on Amazon, not worth it.
Thank you so much for doing this video and not shaming those of us who cannot commit more money. I'm happy with my Amazon purchase, play it only occasionally, but it brings me much joy. Also, your videos keep me interested and motivated to play. I'm so grateful for you!
First a bought a cheap handpan. About 400 euro's. It did sound not to bad, but I had no experience with handpans. A few weeks later I dropped it on the ding. I asked local builders if they could tune it. They all refused, at first I was a bit disappointed but later on I realized that they could not take the risk. I made a stick with a round point and after three days I got it in tune again. But later on I heard an expensive handpan. The sound was so much better. I did some research. Checked what brand handpan you and other handpanplayers used on youtube. I saved up some money and bought an expensive Elaia handpan (Lotus D kurd 19). The best decision I ever made. I will never sell this handpan. I am not a good handpan player but a good handpan makes a big difference. I follow the course on masterthehandpan from David and Malte and I just enjoy the handpan. And I dont care that I never be a great player but I love the instrument. Hope you have a great day. Greetings, Henne.
@@Hennew noche. Great desición. If you able to Pay. 😁.maje the difference but the most important Is thechnique. But you buy a treasure. Is not only be a player pro. The sound generarte peace AND its food for the soul. Love from argentina. 😍
@@ambitiouswelifeandcareerco7100 depende del país. En argentina en 800 hay hand de primera línea . Cómo así de 400. O de e bay baratos. Acá hay excelentes fabricantes felmlismo nivel y a precios más accesibles.
@@ambitiouswelifeandcareerco7100 I would not recommend a hanpand under 1000 euro. First things first. Find a local builder. That is the best thing I can recommend. A good handpan starts around 1500 euro's. But that is my opinion. I saved and bought a handpan for life. I will not sell it even if they want to pay more then I payed for it. You wont regret it. I'm a student not a professional handpan player. Maybe you should ask Amy or Rosie. Have a great day. Friendly greetings, Henne.
I got a cheap d minor kurd....granted it doesn't sound as full as the pricer ones but I figured, as a beginner, this will be fine till I can save up for the expensive ones. I love watching your tutorials just trying to get my hands to do what yours do...lol. I'm gonna be 59 this year and I love the sounds to calm my ptsd anxiety.
@AmyNaylorMusic sound therapy is awesome. Plus when you are grounding yourself outside. I also, thanks to my husband, am getting a high spirits bass E earth tone flute to learn as well. Wish I would of started years ago! No one around here teaches handpan or the native indian flute. I live in Northern Iowa, USA
Thank you for making this content!! My first handpan was $400 from asteman and the quality was not bad - lovely in fact ( played it for farm animals on my channel ) . Now I have some pans in the $1299-1400 range from makers like BeatRise & Acolyte can tell the difference in quality and sound ! My biggest qualm with the handpan when I play it for others is their excitement of the sound followed by the shock and frustration sometimes horror of the cost & inaccessibility of the instrument. Followed by the projection of the dismay of the cost and inaccessibility onto me 😅. But I also feel and empathize with the pain & dismay, because pans can be $1200 - 3000+ and that’s A LOT to me . Payment plans and all. Especially when you’re not being sponsored or gifted them by the pan makers.
I was chocked too when I just looked !!! Honestly and I come from playing Baritone saxophone that the starting point is in the few ks for the cheapest crap, that also constantly get out of wack and no one can fix cause the metals are just too cheap😂 it looks like such a simple piece of metal you really wonder why is it so expensive when a full electric Piano of decent quality now these days is cheaper than that 😅😅😅 this year I got a Yamaha acoustic guitar, it sounds beautiful!!! even for an awful player like me 😂 and it was under 300$ I was so amazed 😂❤ Poor people should play guitar it's much more affordable 😂❤
Remember! If you buy a nice instrument and don't end up sticking with handpan, you'll be able to resell. Whereas an instrument of this quality will never be able to be sold again.
Oh wow ….thats an excellent point! One I never thought of mentioning to people as I help them get handpans and am having that discussion of inexpensive vs expensive. Thanks for bringing that up!! 🙏🏼 .. 🛸🎶 .. 🦋
@@carloscenteno8524 … I hear ya!! And glad you were able to sell that one … and honestly, if you’re not recording or performing gigs, then it’s not as imperative that the pan be of the highest quality …. But Amy and I do both, therefore I think we tend to look at it from that perspective .. so your points are valid … 🤗🛸🎶🦋
@@thathandpanlady4510 sure. Im only want to have a d kurd 7 from a good Luthier or shop. Nothing More. I hope sometime play on one. Because the sustain Is awesome. But for the moment i practise technique AND compositor.
@@thathandpanlady4510 im a djembe percusionista 8 years. I discover this instrumental AND you about a year. AND i hace once used 6 months ago. But i note the dofference. On sound. But its ok i have one . Here in argentina the financiala situación Is hard. 😅
I'll have you know my chicken introduced me. A man began to play, at a medieval event. My chicken wandered off and stood listening to him, occasionally trilling. She had a favorite! I had to go check it out. Mandolins, soft singing, guitar, harp, flute she likes all of them but not like she goes for this music. Very relaxing, and uplifting. If that is a cheap one, I can see why fewer people have them. But like buying a drum, or violin, the construction matters in the final sound. ❤️ That was a nice little jam! Thank you for sharing!
Base note sounds good but lucked out on some of those higher notes. You are spot on about the risks involved. I heard one on Temu I actually liked (many others I didn’t). I wasn’t going to purchase without first hearing the scale and the resonance. I have sensitive ears and can hear the harmonics slightly out but not enough that it hurts my ears like the one you have in your video. In fact the 10 note d minor 432 hand-pan I have is awesome because i I can genuinely connect to it with joy and I’ve been inspired to play every it day. I’ve discovered this is my instrument! So while is morally questionable it’s facilitated being a very healing instrument for me in a difficult time and in the bigger picture its leading to me now wanting to save up and invest in a locally made one here in Australia. Plus it is leading to me eventually creating and sharing healing sounds in the with friends, family and the wider community.
In my opinion when you two start playing together and two handpans, the cheaper one sounds nicer and brighter. The tough part about buying these online is you can't test it out beforehand and depending on who worked on it, it can sound terrible and the sound quality varies greatly
This was great Amy. You and Rosie touched on exactly all the issues that these pan tend to have. One quick thing. The Hamsa pans actually are rebranded but they are tuned to bring them up to the Hamsa standard. And for what they are they are a super solid instrument, and I’d recommend them over an unknown. 🤗 You two are my hero’s. 😁
Fun video! I love when you and Rosie get together. I bought a Lomuty 10 note D kurd from Amazon for $430 US. I figured there was no risk since I could return it. I'm really happy with it! Then again, it's my first handpan so I have nothing to compare it to. If I get good enough, I'll get a nicer one someday, but this one is perfect for learning on. I just looked and they're much cheaper now than when I bought mine a year ago (of course...lol).
Looking for a hand pan and loved this video. You are the first person that came up and I love how you’ve shown that you really do get what you pay for! I will have one of these for the Holidays!
May ask what the cost of the pan your comparing it to? Because if you’ve got a £250 pan up against a £3500 pan then there is no comparison. Thanks though I may dive in.. 👍
I had an experience with a company called Boomslore handpans when I was first getting into the instruments that was horrible. Fake reviews, lying about creating there pans in house to justify a cheaper price of $850. Turns out they were basically drop shipping handpans from Temu. The quality of the one you purchased from amazon is actually very decent for the money spent, so you kinda lucked out. The box the Handpan came in literally said “this is a handplate, beat the meditation” 😂
Haha yeah I think this is the main worry. The downright scams, which is how it all started. Now, factory made pans are getting better. I'm curious to see where it will go
Okay, it DOES sound a bit like a can lid being tapped BUT . . . it also has some charm, much like a scratchy old vinyl record vs a contempory digital recording. I think these have their place as a creative instrument (as you mentioned). Last yr I bought a new $40 ukulele just to see if I liked it. It wasn't a toy, just a 'B Stock' and on sale. Turned out I LOVE playing the uke & I now have 7 (a few expensive). I will gift the original one to one of my friends to give the uke a try but I absolutely could sell it if I wanted. BTW, my fav uke while traveling or playing outside in the heat & humidity is my $40 soprano carbon fiber (Enya) uke. A hot car or a pop up rain shower won't bother it at all & it plays v easily. The sound is just fine for a casual audience of family or friends. Neither of the two ukuleles is for professional performance of course.
I have to say that the few seconds that really made the difference clear to me was just that first ascending scale played in the same setting (mic, room, etc.) as your tutorials and other videos. As Rosie got into the top half of the scale and those “incomplete” harmonics started barking out, yeah, wow. I agree that accessibility is a huge issue for the handpan, but I really hope a better answer comes along than what you got (and hopefully returned without incident!) from this factory situation.
Great video. I bought the very same and I get the same sound as you. I thought I would be able to do better sound as I skill up but apparently Im maxing the sound as it is now. The sound from my Amazon handpan is giving a very narrow sound image not deep or long sound. But still its playable and something to start my journey with and as I progress I will definitely purchase a real handpan.
Yeah like I said in the video, I think there comes a point as you improve that in order to grow any further you need a good quality instrument. But if it gets you started, that's amazing!
I bought three already and gave one away and I kind of regret it and I want to replace it, but I have no talent but these are nice to give away to the right people.
It's definitely worth considering the cost of getting a cheap instrument, but if you luck out, it could be worthwhile. The problem is that an instrument like that just can't be made cheaply. A $50 guitar is the equivalent of that $250 hand-pan. Maybe the best idea is just to play samples on keyboard.
I know it's hard. But saving up your money and getting a better quality handpan is better. The difference in sound is literally night and day. Rav Vast makes excellent reasonably priced drums that are more durable than a typical handpan, but it's also good to get a good quality handpan as it sounds a bit different. I was able to save up to get both and it was well worth it.
What you're saying about that cheap thing instruments is so right! I really wanted to pkay tin whistle and started with one of these penny whistles. And it did not sound like in the tutorials... it sounded like a cheap toy. I bought a well manufactured brass whistle and the sound was incredible! Makes so much fun to play 😊
My mass-produced brass Bb Generation tin whistle plays better than my handmade $US250 wood/brass/delrin Bb from an established maker. The replacement sent out was equally disappointing. I also had a Low F from another established maker. It sounded lovely, but slides felt like a carrot grater. Yet, my cheap PVC Low F plays beautifully. Go figure! I hope you’re enjoying your whistle playing-it’s a lovely instrument in its own right!
Sorry...a bit off topic...but I find your energy to be mesmerizing! I realize this may be a me thing...but your passion comes through vividly...for your information, for your caring about someone learning, for your friend. Star/Awe-struck! Loving energy to you Amy!
I got the same one knowing the issue but it's been a good experience before investing into a real one and not using it. Now I can save up for a better one.
I got one off Teemu, and it was so bad I had to send it back (and I did with no troubles). I've only had quality pans for the last 13 years. HARMONICS MUST BE TUNED! I don't think I could ever go to a cheapie.
Wow! I am glad to see you talk about this. I want to buy a handpan but I want the handpans that sound beautiful like I've heard. I am convinced to save up for a real one. I agree with you, it will be worth it to have the real deal and start off right. 😊
I bought one also...for fun...even very tallented maker couldn't tune it and he really do tried hard. It is question of bad metal processing , gluing, shaping tonefields...tragedy. I use it for barbecue as a cauldron. Than it works well.
Guest - you cooking sausages mate? Me - nah, they roll off. Which burger do you want? C, E, A#? Guest - I’ll take the ding burger. I guess this cooks Hang-burgers
I bought a cheap one from Amazon last month. It plays very nicely with the mallets. But very hard to get a decent tone using hands only. With hands only it sucks. However, good enough for a first purchase to see if I like it enough to to pay a lot of money for a hood one.
Not quite the same topic but I do love delving into the abyss just for the sake of curiosity. For example I have purchased two glass mousepads (combined cost still significantly less than half the price of established manufacturers), but the saved cost isn't even why I love it but because they use a completely different style of finish that is phenomenally more comfortable. Perhaps bigger makers don't use that finish because frosted glass just looks more luxurious? I'll never know. On the other hand just saying, if you ever consider the opposite of this video and get one custom-made, I think getting one made out of Monel (the material used for Martin Retro strings) would be fascinating. Imagine my heartbreak when I decided I will never buy any other strings again; and my local shop decides to stop stocking them. The tragedy.
Hilarious!! Thanks for sharing this, I should do a video of what it's like to tune one of these. I think I would need a shockproof camera though, as hammers tend to fly around the workshop due to my impatience! haha
What you need to do is create a space where you, the pros, import and store lots of various kinds of second hand handpans at lower prices and have something maybe like once a month where people have a set budget come in to find something that works for them. No official shop crap, no marks ups, no tax nonsense, no gimmicks, no false advertising. Just an idea that brings people who want handpans together into the same room, or same park space or what ever with handpans worth buying
Excellent review. Though Like yourself Amy I am privileged to own an expensive HP but also have cheaper ones to use as stand alone instruments to play specific tunes, and this is where I think for beginners and even seasoned artists like yourself it could be of use and of course running it through effects may produce some interesting results. But overall really informative. 🙂
I bought a cheap one because that’s all I could afford and didn’t see that changing anytime soon but wanted to learn to play it. I went away for 2 weeks and left if in the case in my Florida home and the ding went out of tune. Sadly I am still paying for the instrument until November. I am not sure if it would’ve been better situation had it been a high end instrument because I believe my mistake was in keeping it in the case with fairly high and humid temps. Before that I was fairly satisfied with the sound for the price paid and as a novice.
Ok … Rosie is here now …. And my reaction to the taps? Ouch!! Although the poor quality did get masked during the jam. But, to me, that’s not worth spending almost $320 in US dollars. But then, I’m a bit spoiled (and fortunate) to have pans from some really good builders! Glad to see you returned it. Hope that process goes smoothly!! Love y’all…. 🥰 … 🛸🎶 .. 🦋
I actually filmed this video at the beginning of the year, it's just taken a long time to edit it into something that I feel is fair and eloquent enough to post. I know it will still be super controversial, but yeah, the returns was SUPER easy. Delivery company picked it up.
@@AmyNaylorMusic .. I could tell a lot of time, work and edits went into creating that video, but you did a great job!! I don’t have the patience for that. My videos are all one take and done .. maybe shorten a bit in front and end but that it. The rest seems like so much work and it takes enough time to do the little I do and post it to 4 music sites. But, it works well enough, so I’m good … but ALWAYS impressed with both your and Rosie’s videos!! Good stuff!! 💕🛸🎶🦋
I recommend Node Handpans in Bradford made by Mo. I bought my first pan from him and he is very very helpful and has promised to repair or retune if necessary. I paid £635 - and I play it along with Amy’s turorials.
I wanted one since i saw one like 10-15 years ago. Have the site "Thomann" saved on my browser since then. Those are not cheap and i would love too start with something that dosent cost me alot. I really would like too know aswell.
My father got me a ~$500 from Temu for my birthday. It seems to be the exact same one you purchased. It is entirely out of tune and we couldn't return it. ;^; I wish I could have gotten him to listen to me about the quality of these things... now he just sees me as ungrateful. ^^;
You must remember handpans originally weren't made with expensive materials, they came from very inexpensive easy to find/resource materials.. handpans origins are not from prominent areas of the world...
Could really hear the off overtones. I'm a long-time guitarist who has dabbled on cheap tongue drums. I walked into a local shop & tried a couple of hand pans (first time), even though I couldn't afford one. Within minutes I could produce a good tone. A percussionist walked in, heard me playing & walked to the back room. l deferred & she tried her first couple of hand pans. She walked out of the store w/ one before I left. A good instrument just really rings.
FWIW, I bought mine from Acolyte (which is the "budget/beginner" version of a Nirvana handpan) - it's made in the USA, and I paid $1300 for it. I like it but I'm certainly not a connoisseur.
I'm sure there must be more, but I know Mountain Man Handpans and Isthmus Handpans are in the USA. I've heard Mountain Man pans live and they sound fantastic.
I am quite impressed by your musical skills. I unfortunately cannot afford the high-quality handpans, and as a musician myself I refuse to invest in a cheap instrument I'm just going to throw away. So, I don't foresee ever having one. You never know though. Maybe I'll get lucky one day and have $2500 or more just laying around.
I looked into the cost of high quality steel used to make a hand pan, this is steel made in Australia with high labour and material costs and the cost is $90 Australian dollars that's about $45 pounds, the labour in a place that makes handpans is $40 Australian a month, the process would be close to the wage in a 3rd world country, so only if they made one a month and I dout that, the cost is $170 AUD and that's like $87 pounds, they just have to sell one at double the cost and make a months wage
Btw, maybe a fun little gag. Try to create a song, and try it as serious as you can, with 2 handpan that DO NOT match at all. And try to approach this as a challenge.
I was surprised to find handpan sounds in my Logic Pro music editing software a few weeks ago that sounded really good! Of course, it’s nothing like the sound and experience of the live, real thing…but I can see where it could be useful for some electronic music production.
Y’all’s awesome jam sesh made me 😊… thanks for this info, as I have been searching… AND you know Amazon is usually the first place anyone looks!! Lol… you two should have an album together…you’re seriously talented!! ✌🏼🩵🔥😎
Crazy idea time… can we organize a field trip to see these being made? Because you are talking about “factory” Handpans, and of exploitative labor practices. I’m interested if these are actually factory produced, eg stamped by machine. Or if there are builders who are making these by hand, without mentorship and guidance from professional builders. Let’s go on a handpan diplomacy field trip to see where the $250 handpan is made!
Amy I recently bought a D Kurd 10 notes from MEINL german brand ( cost approximately 1700euro ) although I discovered it is Handmade in CHina the sounds and quality seems pretty good ….what do you think of MEINL ? Thanks 😊
I like Meinl as a percussion company, I've bought from them before. I have't heard a Meinl handpan in a long time so I don't know. Back then I wasn't impressed. I think for that price it's worth buying from an independent builder, but if you're enjoying it, then it's perfect 😊
Thanks for your feedback Amy …frankly I hesitated between MEINL handpan and SELA handpan …..but as I got discount and only paid 1300 euros then it was worth more choosing the MEINL …am a new Handpan player so will use this one for practice for at least a year and then will go for a nicer one next time ….personally I love the AYASA in Netherlands or the Battiloro in Italie …which one do you think is best ? Big hugs 😊
Honestly it's not bad for the price but definitely not a high quality for someone to try it out and maybe see if they can get the hang of the instrument it's good but if your truly wanting perfection don't get this one cause it's not perfect and every one is different some are much worse than this one
This video kind of really underlines what I have experienced - even without ending up buying a low price instrument. On amazon, for example, you can literally tell that some handpans, even tho named differently and sold by different sellers, are 100% the same instrument. Like most things on amazon, propably bought in china, rebranded on the website and sold for 4x-8x the price. And while there is nothing inherently wrong with that, some of these instruments do have video-reviews and one can clearly tell that the notes are off and the sound is wobbely, wavey and not krisp / on point. I will be patient now and buy a better instrument when I can afford it. The sounds coming out of some of the cheap ones just are not satisfying to me. It feels like listening to a guitar that has not been tuned properly. It is no real joy.
you have to watch out for that, i got an acoustic four string guitar off amazon and while studying all the listings for what i was certain was the exact same guitar in a price range from $115AU to the $400 plus i purchased one for $115 delivered. i can Imagin how upsetting it would be to find you paid over $400 for what i got, it is ok it works but it is difficult to tune and looks a little rough.
I have one issue with the cheap handpans that I want to add to the conversation. Cheap handpans are disposable handpans. They’re made to be starter instruments, for people to try out, then move onto a quality handpan if they enjoy playing and save money. This leaves a wake of cheap handpans that will sit unused, eventually put into recycling bins or worse, end up in a landfill! There is something deeply wrong to me, emotionally, with the purposeful creation of junk.
It's difficult to make a good chromatic pan because of the nature of the way the instrument is built. But you could absolutely use a set of pans. Something like a D minor + C# minor (or it's equivalent E major which is what I do for chromatic playing)
TL;DR: I hope this video won't find many people who want to try handpanning and are on a budget. Those people, most of the time won't mind the worse quality, maybe it even getting quite out of tune. They are used to it. They don't listen to stuff on good sound systems and therefore won't know the difference. They lived their whole lives getting the short end of the stick. So they don't know better. And you telling them they shan't even get that, is awful. --- Yeah, you say you know you are coming from a point of privilege. But that doesn't excuse deterring people from trying those instruments out. Even 250 is a lot of saving to do for so many people. So f* your advice. The cheap one sounds good enough and if it doesn't go extremely out of tune, most people won't even realize it is bad. In my experience, most people aren't sensitive enough to music, to tell a big difference. As you said, not having an ideal instrument forces you to see differently. And I think it's more worthwhile for everyone, if those who think they aren't any good and stop because of it, just do it. If you quit something you have to practice for, because you think you aren't good enough, then you don't really deserve getting any better, do you? So why bitter it for everyone else, who want to put their all into this, possibly even saving up for years to be able to fulfill their wish for a handpan ( even a very cheap one ), if those are exactly the people who deserve trying and getting better? Also, if nobody would buy the factory made stuff, that stuff can't get better. So handpans could never get much cheaper ( like you write, you wish they could ). But if enough people buy the cheap stuff, the companies can invest into RnD. Making better machines, getting a system of tuning down that can be automated and so on. With the right process, handpans ought to be very machine producible. It's "just" two pieces of stamped and hammered metal after all. But finding that process takes time and funding and that funding, and therefore time to get better, comes from people buying the factory stuff.
I love your content, not only are you down to the task at hand, unlike many who just love the sound of their own voice, but you teach us the facts and not guesses. On this video you actually purchased the item to give us a live example of how bad they can be, to me the lingering vibrations told me I was better using cut off soda cans to practice my hand moves. Another thing I love about you is that unlike many others you don’t sexualize your channel even though you are gorgeous and sexy you dress casual and comfortable like my 6 girls and here you are just about the music. Thanks.
🛸 this is SUCH a quickly changing market that I can't possibly cover everything in this video, and will likely update as things change and advance. But as some have already noted, it seems I kinda lucked out on this handpan, as it wasn't as bad as i thought it might have been.
I know handpans arent super accessible. Yet. The cheaper market is not a good alternative. I hope for that to change. Somehow.
My Handpan from China for $200 and It's a complete copy of what you have in your video.. I really wanted to try it first. Now, I love this instrument. I recently moved to LA, now I want to find a company to play Hang and chat with..🙃
@@VERT502 … Find Hamsa Handpans … they’re in LA and aside from being a great builder, he does community jam events that are open to anyone interested. I got my 2nd pan from them. Also, Acolyte Instruments (previously Nirvana Handpans) is just a hop, skip and a jump away in Glendale. I bought my first pan from them. They’re both great companies! ☺️🛸🎶🦋
@@VERT502 … Find Hamsa Handpans … they’re in LA and aside from being a great builder, he does community jam events that are open to anyone interested. I got my 2nd pan from them. Also, Acolyte Instruments (previously Nirvana Handpans) is just a hop, skip and a jump away in Glendale. I bought my first pan from them. They’re both great companies! ☺️🛸🎶🦋
@@VERT502 … Find Hamsa Handpans … they’re in LA and aside from being a great builder, he does community jam events that are open to anyone interested. I got my 2nd pan from them. Also, Acolyte Instruments (previously Nirvana Handpans) is just a hop, skip and a jump away in Glendale. I bought my first pan from them. They’re both great companies! ☺️🛸🎶🦋
@@VERT502 … Find Hamsa Handpans … they’re in LA and aside from being a great builder, he does community jam events that are open to anyone interested. I got my 2nd pan from them. Also, Acolyte Instruments (previously Nirvana Handpans) is just a hop, skip and a jump away in Glendale. I bought my first pan from them. They’re both great companies! ☺️🛸🎶🦋
For most of us 'poors' it is a case of saving for a cheap one, or never having one at all. Sad but true.
Exactly, 250 is still a lot. Like you can get GOOD sounding guitars for less...
You're right, 250 is a LOT of money, which is why it's important to make sure you're getting something actually playable
@@ivymoon5084 Yes the low end of the guitar market has changed a lot and now you can get some amazing guitars for very little, as they gain experience with handpans let us hope they go the same way.
Yes. Music, joy, and creativity aren’t for us, inherently. They just want to extract what they can from us and discard the husks.
Yup…pretty much
As a multi instrumentalist, that Amazon handpan sounds *PERFECT* for my purposes. I don’t aspire to virtuosity on any of my instruments, I just need access to the sounds…so it doesn’t need to be of the exacting standards of a professional who specializes in that instrument. It just needs to be playable and sound good enough in a mix with other instruments.
nah, its pretty out of tune.. you'd be better off just getting MIDI handpan sound package and use the synth or your laptop if you just need the sounds.. but this thing is a waste of money and space and metal
I bought my first handpan off Temu, returned it within a week as it was out of tune. Bought my second off Amazon, returned that one in a week as it was out of tune as well. My third handpan was bought from Yataopan based out of Germany (I'm in Canada) which is Malte Marten and friends company and it was beautiful and for the most part sounded amazing but the low note was out of tune i was going to give up as i thought id never get one that was in tune and this one had cost me $2k so my nerves were shot BUT to my delight and amazement Yatao sent me a replacement it took 5 months as. I had to wait for the next batch to be manufactured but I'm happy to say that it's in tune and sounds beautiful, yay!
I love Malte. I play his music for my toddler while she sleeps. Good luck😊
I suspect Amazon buys from Temu and just marks it up to make a profit... I personally wouldn't buy anything from Temu, and if Amazon is advertising things I've seen on Temu, I would seriously reconsider the purchase, as I know most things sold on Temu are of low quality and unless it's also cheap on Amazon, not worth it.
Thank you so much for doing this video and not shaming those of us who cannot commit more money. I'm happy with my Amazon purchase, play it only occasionally, but it brings me much joy.
Also, your videos keep me interested and motivated to play. I'm so grateful for you!
First a bought a cheap handpan. About 400 euro's. It did sound not to bad, but I had no experience with handpans. A few weeks later I dropped it on the ding. I asked local builders if they could tune it. They all refused, at first I was a bit disappointed but later on I realized that they could not take the risk. I made a stick with a round point and after three days I got it in tune again. But later on I heard an expensive handpan. The sound was so much better. I did some research. Checked what brand handpan you and other handpanplayers used on youtube. I saved up some money and bought an expensive Elaia handpan (Lotus D kurd 19). The best decision I ever made. I will never sell this handpan. I am not a good handpan player but a good handpan makes a big difference. I follow the course on masterthehandpan from David and Malte and I just enjoy the handpan. And I dont care that I never be a great player but I love the instrument. Hope you have a great day. Greetings, Henne.
@@Hennew noche. Great desición. If you able to Pay. 😁.maje the difference but the most important Is thechnique. But you buy a treasure. Is not only be a player pro. The sound generarte peace AND its food for the soul. Love from argentina. 😍
What would be your recommendation for a handpan under $1000?
@@ambitiouswelifeandcareerco7100 depende del país. En argentina en 800 hay hand de primera línea . Cómo así de 400. O de e bay baratos. Acá hay excelentes fabricantes felmlismo nivel y a precios más accesibles.
@@ambitiouswelifeandcareerco7100 I would not recommend a hanpand under 1000 euro. First things first. Find a local builder. That is the best thing I can recommend. A good handpan starts around 1500 euro's. But that is my opinion. I saved and bought a handpan for life. I will not sell it even if they want to pay more then I payed for it. You wont regret it. I'm a student not a professional handpan player. Maybe you should ask Amy or Rosie. Have a great day. Friendly greetings, Henne.
"Terrible birthday present", "you are welcome"... This made my day! :D Such a nice and informative video! Thanks a lot for your work! ;)
I got a cheap d minor kurd....granted it doesn't sound as full as the pricer ones but I figured, as a beginner, this will be fine till I can save up for the expensive ones. I love watching your tutorials just trying to get my hands to do what yours do...lol. I'm gonna be 59 this year and I love the sounds to calm my ptsd anxiety.
Glad you're enjoying the handpan and the tutorials 😊 it's amazing to hear that it's calming your anxiety!
@AmyNaylorMusic sound therapy is awesome. Plus when you are grounding yourself outside. I also, thanks to my husband, am getting a high spirits bass E earth tone flute to learn as well. Wish I would of started years ago! No one around here teaches handpan or the native indian flute. I live in Northern Iowa, USA
I also bought cheap version kurd and I am glad to hear it in reality. ❤
Thank you for making this content!!
My first handpan was $400 from asteman and the quality was not bad - lovely in fact ( played it for farm animals on my channel ) .
Now I have some pans in the $1299-1400 range from makers like BeatRise & Acolyte can tell the difference in quality and sound !
My biggest qualm with the handpan when I play it for others is their excitement of the sound followed by the shock and frustration sometimes horror of the cost & inaccessibility of the instrument.
Followed by the projection of the dismay of the cost and inaccessibility onto me 😅.
But I also feel and empathize with the pain & dismay, because pans can be $1200 - 3000+ and that’s A LOT to me . Payment plans and all. Especially when you’re not being sponsored or gifted them by the pan makers.
I was chocked too when I just looked !!! Honestly and I come from playing Baritone saxophone that the starting point is in the few ks for the cheapest crap, that also constantly get out of wack and no one can fix cause the metals are just too cheap😂 it looks like such a simple piece of metal you really wonder why is it so expensive when a full electric Piano of decent quality now these days is cheaper than that 😅😅😅 this year I got a Yamaha acoustic guitar, it sounds beautiful!!! even for an awful player like me 😂 and it was under 300$ I was so amazed 😂❤ Poor people should play guitar it's much more affordable 😂❤
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Nice comparison, and damn that was a jam after 9:00 !!
Remember! If you buy a nice instrument and don't end up sticking with handpan, you'll be able to resell. Whereas an instrument of this quality will never be able to be sold again.
Oh wow ….thats an excellent point! One I never thought of mentioning to people as I help them get handpans and am having that discussion of inexpensive vs expensive. Thanks for bringing that up!! 🙏🏼 .. 🛸🎶 .. 🦋
Truuueee
@@carloscenteno8524 … I hear ya!! And glad you were able to sell that one … and honestly, if you’re not recording or performing gigs, then it’s not as imperative that the pan be of the highest quality …. But Amy and I do both, therefore I think we tend to look at it from that perspective .. so your points are valid … 🤗🛸🎶🦋
@@thathandpanlady4510 sure. Im only want to have a d kurd 7 from a good Luthier or shop. Nothing More. I hope sometime play on one. Because the sustain Is awesome. But for the moment i practise technique AND compositor.
@@thathandpanlady4510 im a djembe percusionista 8 years. I discover this instrumental AND you about a year. AND i hace once used 6 months ago. But i note the dofference. On sound. But its ok i have one . Here in argentina the financiala situación Is hard. 😅
I'll have you know my chicken introduced me. A man began to play, at a medieval event. My chicken wandered off and stood listening to him, occasionally trilling. She had a favorite! I had to go check it out. Mandolins, soft singing, guitar, harp, flute she likes all of them but not like she goes for this music. Very relaxing, and uplifting. If that is a cheap one, I can see why fewer people have them. But like buying a drum, or violin, the construction matters in the final sound. ❤️ That was a nice little jam! Thank you for sharing!
I absolutely adore your chicken best friend lead you to lovely lively musical good times😆❤❤
Thank you for sharing this story🥰 *squee* 🎶
The first time I seen a handpan, I'M TOTALLY HOOKED.
Base note sounds good but lucked out on some of those higher notes. You are spot on about the risks involved. I heard one on Temu I actually liked (many others I didn’t). I wasn’t going to purchase without first hearing the scale and the resonance. I have sensitive ears and can hear the harmonics slightly out but not enough that it hurts my ears like the one you have in your video. In fact the 10 note d minor 432 hand-pan I have is awesome because i I can genuinely connect to it with joy and I’ve been inspired to play every it day. I’ve discovered this is my instrument! So while is morally questionable it’s facilitated being a very healing instrument for me in a difficult time and in the bigger picture its leading to me now wanting to save up and invest in a locally made one here in Australia. Plus it is leading to me eventually creating and sharing healing sounds in the with friends, family and the wider community.
In my opinion when you two start playing together and two handpans, the cheaper one sounds nicer and brighter. The tough part about buying these online is you can't test it out beforehand and depending on who worked on it, it can sound terrible and the sound quality varies greatly
This was great Amy. You and Rosie touched on exactly all the issues that these pan tend to have. One quick thing. The Hamsa pans actually are rebranded but they are tuned to bring them up to the Hamsa standard. And for what they are they are a super solid instrument, and I’d recommend them over an unknown. 🤗 You two are my hero’s. 😁
I have one. Yes, it's worth it.
Fun video! I love when you and Rosie get together. I bought a Lomuty 10 note D kurd from Amazon for $430 US. I figured there was no risk since I could return it. I'm really happy with it! Then again, it's my first handpan so I have nothing to compare it to. If I get good enough, I'll get a nicer one someday, but this one is perfect for learning on. I just looked and they're much cheaper now than when I bought mine a year ago (of course...lol).
Looking for a hand pan and loved this video. You are the first person that came up and I love how you’ve shown that you really do get what you pay for! I will have one of these for the Holidays!
May ask what the cost of the pan your comparing it to? Because if you’ve got a £250 pan up against a £3500 pan then there is no comparison. Thanks though I may dive in.. 👍
Around £1500
I had an experience with a company called Boomslore handpans when I was first getting into the instruments that was horrible. Fake reviews, lying about creating there pans in house to justify a cheaper price of $850. Turns out they were basically drop shipping handpans from Temu. The quality of the one you purchased from amazon is actually very decent for the money spent, so you kinda lucked out.
The box the Handpan came in literally said “this is a handplate, beat the meditation” 😂
Haha yeah I think this is the main worry. The downright scams, which is how it all started. Now, factory made pans are getting better. I'm curious to see where it will go
Okay, it DOES sound a bit like a can lid being tapped BUT . . . it also has some charm, much like a scratchy old vinyl record vs a contempory digital recording. I think these have their place as a creative instrument (as you mentioned). Last yr I bought a new $40 ukulele just to see if I liked it. It wasn't a toy, just a 'B Stock' and on sale. Turned out I LOVE playing the uke & I now have 7 (a few expensive). I will gift the original one to one of my friends to give the uke a try but I absolutely could sell it if I wanted. BTW, my fav uke while traveling or playing outside in the heat & humidity is my $40 soprano carbon fiber (Enya) uke. A hot car or a pop up rain shower won't bother it at all & it plays v easily. The sound is just fine for a casual audience of family or friends. Neither of the two ukuleles is for professional performance of course.
I bought a cheap Amazon hand pan. Sounds ok. But I am learning now so when I get better and experienced then off to a better one
So many pretentious Brits doing channels...
But I dig your voice and your attitude.
Great!!!
I'm curious as to what materials a quality handpan is made of, that would cost £250 .
I don't really unterstand the thought of making it a present if you already know it's a bad pan and you will give it back. Can you elaborate on that?
I have to say that the few seconds that really made the difference clear to me was just that first ascending scale played in the same setting (mic, room, etc.) as your tutorials and other videos. As Rosie got into the top half of the scale and those “incomplete” harmonics started barking out, yeah, wow. I agree that accessibility is a huge issue for the handpan, but I really hope a better answer comes along than what you got (and hopefully returned without incident!) from this factory situation.
Great video. I bought the very same and I get the same sound as you. I thought I would be able to do better sound as I skill up but apparently Im maxing the sound as it is now. The sound from my Amazon handpan is giving a very narrow sound image not deep or long sound. But still its playable and something to start my journey with and as I progress I will definitely purchase a real handpan.
Yeah like I said in the video, I think there comes a point as you improve that in order to grow any further you need a good quality instrument. But if it gets you started, that's amazing!
May I ask how long have you been playing handpan? I am surprised you have "maxed the sound" if you just picked up the instrument recently.
I bought three already and gave one away and I kind of regret it and I want to replace it, but I have no talent but these are nice to give away to the right people.
i buy one for $200 dlls 10 tones and is super!!
Very well done video, Amy, on an important topic in handpan world.
It's definitely worth considering the cost of getting a cheap instrument, but if you luck out, it could be worthwhile.
The problem is that an instrument like that just can't be made cheaply.
A $50 guitar is the equivalent of that $250 hand-pan.
Maybe the best idea is just to play samples on keyboard.
Have you had any experience with the Handpans from Vietnam?
I’m curious what is your opinion of these?
The good one you played sounds lovely.
But personally I wouldn't buy a handpan.
I would definitely have a play of one if I had the chance though.
I know it's hard. But saving up your money and getting a better quality handpan is better. The difference in sound is literally night and day. Rav Vast makes excellent reasonably priced drums that are more durable than a typical handpan, but it's also good to get a good quality handpan as it sounds a bit different. I was able to save up to get both and it was well worth it.
What you're saying about that cheap thing instruments is so right! I really wanted to pkay tin whistle and started with one of these penny whistles. And it did not sound like in the tutorials... it sounded like a cheap toy. I bought a well manufactured brass whistle and the sound was incredible! Makes so much fun to play 😊
Yessss! Such a big difference between the expensive and cheap whistles too
My mass-produced brass Bb Generation tin whistle plays better than my handmade $US250 wood/brass/delrin Bb from an established maker. The replacement sent out was equally disappointing. I also had a Low F from another established maker. It sounded lovely, but slides felt like a carrot grater. Yet, my cheap PVC Low F plays beautifully. Go figure!
I hope you’re enjoying your whistle playing-it’s a lovely instrument in its own right!
Sorry...a bit off topic...but I find your energy to be mesmerizing! I realize this may be a me thing...but your passion comes through vividly...for your information, for your caring about someone learning, for your friend. Star/Awe-struck! Loving energy to you Amy!
I got the same one knowing the issue but it's been a good experience before investing into a real one and not using it. Now I can save up for a better one.
I got one off Teemu, and it was so bad I had to send it back (and I did with no troubles). I've only had quality pans for the last 13 years. HARMONICS MUST BE TUNED! I don't think I could ever go to a cheapie.
Wow! I am glad to see you talk about this. I want to buy a handpan but I want the handpans that sound beautiful like I've heard. I am convinced to save up for a real one. I agree with you, it will be worth it to have the real deal and start off right. 😊
You won’t regret saving for a high quality instrument!
I bought one also...for fun...even very tallented maker couldn't tune it and he really do tried hard. It is question of bad metal processing , gluing, shaping tonefields...tragedy. I use it for barbecue as a cauldron. Than it works well.
Yeppp
Guest - you cooking sausages mate?
Me - nah, they roll off. Which burger do you want? C, E, A#?
Guest - I’ll take the ding burger.
I guess this cooks Hang-burgers
You two sound phenominal!!phenomenal!!! Where can I listen to your music???
open.spotify.com/artist/03nAgxh9wmc0NjL8ShCz3X?si=SjfJ5GeZT2y4CxuMkUteLw
Thank you! 🙏🌱
I bought a cheap one from Amazon last month. It plays very nicely with the mallets. But very hard to get a decent tone using hands only. With hands only it sucks. However, good enough for a first purchase to see if I like it enough to to pay a lot of money for a hood one.
lovely duet
Very informative and fun video, thanks so much for sharing this!
Not quite the same topic but I do love delving into the abyss just for the sake of curiosity. For example I have purchased two glass mousepads (combined cost still significantly less than half the price of established manufacturers), but the saved cost isn't even why I love it but because they use a completely different style of finish that is phenomenally more comfortable. Perhaps bigger makers don't use that finish because frosted glass just looks more luxurious? I'll never know.
On the other hand just saying, if you ever consider the opposite of this video and get one custom-made, I think getting one made out of Monel (the material used for Martin Retro strings) would be fascinating.
Imagine my heartbreak when I decided I will never buy any other strings again; and my local shop decides to stop stocking them.
The tragedy.
Hilarious!! Thanks for sharing this, I should do a video of what it's like to tune one of these. I think I would need a shockproof camera though, as hammers tend to fly around the workshop due to my impatience! haha
I would LOVE to see that video
Thanks Amy! Just the advice I needed 🧡
What you need to do is create a space where you, the pros, import and store lots of various kinds of second hand handpans at lower prices and have something maybe like once a month where people have a set budget come in to find something that works for them.
No official shop crap, no marks ups, no tax nonsense, no gimmicks, no false advertising. Just an idea that brings people who want handpans together into the same room, or same park space or what ever with handpans worth buying
Excellent review. Though Like yourself Amy I am privileged to own an expensive HP but also have cheaper ones to use as stand alone instruments to play specific tunes, and this is where I think for beginners and even seasoned artists like yourself it could be of use and of course running it through effects may produce some interesting results. But overall really informative. 🙂
Wow I loved the playing at 08:30 really popped off
Make it into a short, 08:30 to 08:50 bet it would do really well!
I bought a cheap one because that’s all I could afford and didn’t see that changing anytime soon but wanted to learn to play it. I went away for 2 weeks and left if in the case in my Florida home and the ding went out of tune. Sadly I am still paying for the instrument until November. I am not sure if it would’ve been better situation had it been a high end instrument because I believe my mistake was in keeping it in the case with fairly high and humid temps. Before that I was fairly satisfied with the sound for the price paid and as a novice.
I bought one like this from Temu (never again). I do like it, but when I heard a hand hammered handpan, I got so jealous :D
It's a huge difference huh?! A great gateway instrument though for now!!
I found a hand pan for $50 on Amazon. Now I'm curious how bad it'll sound vs a professional one 😂
Ok … Rosie is here now …. And my reaction to the taps? Ouch!! Although the poor quality did get masked during the jam. But, to me, that’s not worth spending almost $320 in US dollars. But then, I’m a bit spoiled (and fortunate) to have pans from some really good builders! Glad to see you returned it. Hope that process goes smoothly!! Love y’all…. 🥰 … 🛸🎶 .. 🦋
I actually filmed this video at the beginning of the year, it's just taken a long time to edit it into something that I feel is fair and eloquent enough to post. I know it will still be super controversial, but yeah, the returns was SUPER easy. Delivery company picked it up.
@@AmyNaylorMusic .. I could tell a lot of time, work and edits went into creating that video, but you did a great job!! I don’t have the patience for that. My videos are all one take and done .. maybe shorten a bit in front and end but that it. The rest seems like so much work and it takes enough time to do the little I do and post it to 4 music sites. But, it works well enough, so I’m good … but ALWAYS impressed with both your and Rosie’s videos!! Good stuff!! 💕🛸🎶🦋
For £250 I would want the handpan packed in angel feathers
I recommend Node Handpans in Bradford made by Mo. I bought my first pan from him and he is very very helpful and has promised to repair or retune if necessary. I paid £635 - and I play it along with Amy’s turorials.
Can I ask what scale you got your hand pan in please?
wow, that's a super reasonable price!
@@Stuks170 D minor celtic
What would be your recommendation for a handpan under $1000, i have a cheap one now that i am learning on but i definitely can hear a big difference.
I wanted one since i saw one like 10-15 years ago. Have the site "Thomann" saved on my browser since then. Those are not cheap and i would love too start with something that dosent cost me alot. I really would like too know aswell.
My father got me a ~$500 from Temu for my birthday. It seems to be the exact same one you purchased. It is entirely out of tune and we couldn't return it. ;^; I wish I could have gotten him to listen to me about the quality of these things... now he just sees me as ungrateful. ^^;
You must remember handpans originally weren't made with expensive materials, they came from very inexpensive easy to find/resource materials.. handpans origins are not from prominent areas of the world...
Could really hear the off overtones. I'm a long-time guitarist who has dabbled on cheap tongue drums. I walked into a local shop & tried a couple of hand pans (first time), even though I couldn't afford one. Within minutes I could produce a good tone. A percussionist walked in, heard me playing & walked to the back room. l deferred & she tried her first couple of hand pans. She walked out of the store w/ one before I left. A good instrument just really rings.
5:30......
i love it.
I hope she took it home
Thank you for this!
Hey Amy, is there any quality Handpan makers in the USA that you know of?
FWIW, I bought mine from Acolyte (which is the "budget/beginner" version of a Nirvana handpan) - it's made in the USA, and I paid $1300 for it. I like it but I'm certainly not a connoisseur.
I'm sure there must be more, but I know Mountain Man Handpans and Isthmus Handpans are in the USA. I've heard Mountain Man pans live and they sound fantastic.
@@oheysk Thank you 🙏🏻
There are many quality handpan makers in the USA
I have handpans made by Axiom and PanSmith; both US builders and fantastic quality.
lol … you’re killing me girlfriend … I’m not even 1/3 of the way through and I’m sooooo anxious to hear you tap on it!!! 😆🛸🎶🦋
Hahaha sorry for holding on so long throughout the video
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I am quite impressed by your musical skills. I unfortunately cannot afford the high-quality handpans, and as a musician myself I refuse to invest in a cheap instrument I'm just going to throw away. So, I don't foresee ever having one. You never know though. Maybe I'll get lucky one day and have $2500 or more just laying around.
Also Amy, what should the cost be for a quality made Handpan? Maybe a real range would help….
I looked into the cost of high quality steel used to make a hand pan, this is steel made in Australia with high labour and material costs and the cost is $90 Australian dollars that's about $45 pounds, the labour in a place that makes handpans is $40 Australian a month, the process would be close to the wage in a 3rd world country, so only if they made one a month and I dout that, the cost is $170 AUD and that's like $87 pounds, they just have to sell one at double the cost and make a months wage
Btw, maybe a fun little gag. Try to create a song, and try it as serious as you can, with 2 handpan that DO NOT match at all. And try to approach this as a challenge.
Where to buy a very good handpan
I have a hand pan sample on my keyboard. Sounds great. Cost me nothing.
I was surprised to find handpan sounds in my Logic Pro music editing software a few weeks ago that sounded really good! Of course, it’s nothing like the sound and experience of the live, real thing…but I can see where it could be useful for some electronic music production.
yes! thank you.
I'm sending mine back as well. It sounds like dead notes! Any suggestions on a good site to purchase a better quality one?
i wanted to learn handpan for a while now but i cant even afford the cheapest ones rip
Just watching the video you can SEE the odd ripples around tones the cheap handpan.
I bought a $500 one. Its not that bad. Sounds real good. Im just still real bad at it
Is that like $500?
Y’all’s awesome jam sesh made me 😊… thanks for this info, as I have been searching… AND you know Amazon is usually the first place anyone looks!! Lol… you two should have an album together…you’re seriously talented!! ✌🏼🩵🔥😎
We do have an album! Thanks 😁open.spotify.com/artist/03nAgxh9wmc0NjL8ShCz3X?si=SjfJ5GeZT2y4CxuMkUteLw
Your probably get a more tuneful sound out of the box it came in :)
Crazy idea time… can we organize a field trip to see these being made? Because you are talking about “factory” Handpans, and of exploitative labor practices. I’m interested if these are actually factory produced, eg stamped by machine. Or if there are builders who are making these by hand, without mentorship and guidance from professional builders.
Let’s go on a handpan diplomacy field trip to see where the $250 handpan is made!
Amy I recently bought a D Kurd 10 notes from MEINL german brand ( cost approximately 1700euro ) although I discovered it is Handmade in CHina the sounds and quality seems pretty good ….what do you think of MEINL ? Thanks 😊
I like Meinl as a percussion company, I've bought from them before. I have't heard a Meinl handpan in a long time so I don't know. Back then I wasn't impressed. I think for that price it's worth buying from an independent builder, but if you're enjoying it, then it's perfect 😊
Thanks for your feedback Amy …frankly I hesitated between MEINL handpan and SELA handpan …..but as I got discount and only paid 1300 euros then it was worth more choosing the MEINL …am a new Handpan player so will use this one for practice for at least a year and then will go for a nicer one next time ….personally I love the AYASA in Netherlands or the Battiloro in Italie …which one do you think is best ? Big hugs 😊
Honestly it's not bad for the price but definitely not a high quality for someone to try it out and maybe see if they can get the hang of the instrument it's good but if your truly wanting perfection don't get this one cause it's not perfect and every one is different some are much worse than this one
Have you tried the Lumen MIDI handpan?
Do you know if yataopan handpans are good?
Thanks amy 😘
It was as if she was playing a hub cap.
This video kind of really underlines what I have experienced - even without ending up buying a low price instrument. On amazon, for example, you can literally tell that some handpans, even tho named differently and sold by different sellers, are 100% the same instrument. Like most things on amazon, propably bought in china, rebranded on the website and sold for 4x-8x the price. And while there is nothing inherently wrong with that, some of these instruments do have video-reviews and one can clearly tell that the notes are off and the sound is wobbely, wavey and not krisp / on point. I will be patient now and buy a better instrument when I can afford it. The sounds coming out of some of the cheap ones just are not satisfying to me. It feels like listening to a guitar that has not been tuned properly. It is no real joy.
you have to watch out for that, i got an acoustic four string guitar off amazon and while studying all the listings for what i was certain was the exact same guitar in a price range from $115AU to the $400 plus i purchased one for $115 delivered.
i can Imagin how upsetting it would be to find you paid over $400 for what i got, it is ok it works but it is difficult to tune and looks a little rough.
I can’t afford £250😢 Love playing handpan…
I have one issue with the cheap handpans that I want to add to the conversation. Cheap handpans are disposable handpans. They’re made to be starter instruments, for people to try out, then move onto a quality handpan if they enjoy playing and save money.
This leaves a wake of cheap handpans that will sit unused, eventually put into recycling bins or worse, end up in a landfill!
There is something deeply wrong to me, emotionally, with the purposeful creation of junk.
That sounds terrible.
Thanks for the video.
What key did the factory say it was supposed to be?
D minor 😜
Says "professional" in the item description. Must totally be prooooo qualllityyyyyy...
The cheaper one has such a thin sound. You can hear how delicate the metal is. Lol
Yuppp!
Does anyone make a good chromatic hand pan? If not, could one buy two hand pans in different keys to get a complete chromatic scale?
It's difficult to make a good chromatic pan because of the nature of the way the instrument is built. But you could absolutely use a set of pans. Something like a D minor + C# minor (or it's equivalent E major which is what I do for chromatic playing)
TL;DR: I hope this video won't find many people who want to try handpanning and are on a budget. Those people, most of the time won't mind the worse quality, maybe it even getting quite out of tune. They are used to it. They don't listen to stuff on good sound systems and therefore won't know the difference. They lived their whole lives getting the short end of the stick. So they don't know better. And you telling them they shan't even get that, is awful.
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Yeah, you say you know you are coming from a point of privilege. But that doesn't excuse deterring people from trying those instruments out. Even 250 is a lot of saving to do for so many people. So f* your advice. The cheap one sounds good enough and if it doesn't go extremely out of tune, most people won't even realize it is bad. In my experience, most people aren't sensitive enough to music, to tell a big difference.
As you said, not having an ideal instrument forces you to see differently. And I think it's more worthwhile for everyone, if those who think they aren't any good and stop because of it, just do it. If you quit something you have to practice for, because you think you aren't good enough, then you don't really deserve getting any better, do you? So why bitter it for everyone else, who want to put their all into this, possibly even saving up for years to be able to fulfill their wish for a handpan ( even a very cheap one ), if those are exactly the people who deserve trying and getting better?
Also, if nobody would buy the factory made stuff, that stuff can't get better. So handpans could never get much cheaper ( like you write, you wish they could ). But if enough people buy the cheap stuff, the companies can invest into RnD. Making better machines, getting a system of tuning down that can be automated and so on. With the right process, handpans ought to be very machine producible. It's "just" two pieces of stamped and hammered metal after all. But finding that process takes time and funding and that funding, and therefore time to get better, comes from people buying the factory stuff.
Like your ink
Are AS TEMAN handpans good?
They're okaaay, but not much better than the one I this video I don't think (unless they've improved since I tried them)
@@AmyNaylorMusic Mahalo. I decided when I buy, I’ll get a Rav Vast. Very durable, never needs retuning, great price point.
Wait “girlfriend”???
She didn't stutter. Are you new to humans??😂
no, it’s just if she’s a lesbian I feel bad for her.
I love your content, not only are you down to the task at hand, unlike many who just love the sound of their own voice, but you teach us the facts and not guesses. On this video you actually purchased the item to give us a live example of how bad they can be, to me the lingering vibrations told me I was better using cut off soda cans to practice my hand moves. Another thing I love about you is that unlike many others you don’t sexualize your channel even though you are gorgeous and sexy you dress casual and comfortable like my 6 girls and here you are just about the music. Thanks.
😁 you get what you pay for !