Why I Bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk & NOT A Wrangler | Dude I Love (Or Hate) My Ride!
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Why does the carvertical report show the Touareg as a manual transmission? Isn’t yours an automatic?
Lets be real Fiat cherokee
Ani Destiny what one did you like better?
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No self-respecting man uses the word 'drama' when talking about cars and trucks, Nathan. Smh...
@@firesupport162
Let's be real. No one cares what you think.
This guy is clever I’d also choose the TrailHawk instead of a Wrangler since I’m not focused on extreme off-roading, this is way more comfortable for doing off-road and highway cruising. 👍🏽
Moises Sequera that’s a great way to look at it, I’m thinking about changing from a wrangler for the reason
Carroll Shelby yeah Mr Shelby that’s so.
Moises Sequera I would get both. Best of both works
@Dilan Judge but I guarantee your a mall crawler type anyway that doesn't offroad so it doesn't matter what you think
Same here
Love to see someone that really knows their vehicle. 👍🏻
Fully agree man!
@@carrollshelby8690 Congratulations! The kid with superhero name knows more about his vehicle than some ass in the comment section.
From Jeep's Trailhawk site...
Quadra Drive® II 4x4 System with Rear Electronic Limited-Slip Differential
This system provides outstanding control in severe driving conditions. When used in conjunction with the Selec-Terrain® Traction Management System, 100% of the available torque can be sent to one wheel-so even if only one wheel has traction, Grand Cherokee Trailhawk® can keep moving.
@@carrollshelby8690 you need to do some more research before commenting 🤫
@@carrollshelby8690 you need to go off roading in Jeeps more, you clearly have no clue how their systems work and how good they hard. It's okay we all make mistakes 😊
He doesn't have 11.9 inches of clearance. He only gains 1/2 inch from his tires. Yes the tires are an inch taller but you only gain 1/2 of that in actual lift height.
Congratulations to the young owner of that Trailhawk. When I was his age I was driving an ancient rusty Corolla, and happy I could afford even that!
I think the trailhawk series make the most sense for almost anyone who can't afford/fit multiple cars for themselves (space, cost etc). There is virtually nothing you will encounter while camping or recreationally driving that a trailhawk can't handle, and it's a MUCH more reasonable daily commuter and long trip vehicle. Most people get Wranglers on emotion though, and I get that, but these newer trailhawks seem very much more practical while still meeting all your off-road needs right out of the box.
Just do your research I guess, I had a 2018 compass Trailhawk that needed new front struts after 45,000. And all I really did was tak it on backcountry forest roads. Other than that it was an ok vehicle. For the amount of money this guy spent on this GC he could have had a TRD 4runner which is arguable as good on road but way more capable offroad.
@@Ryan-1337 a compass isn't a GC. And what would you advise for somebody living in Europe where the 4runner isn't available?
TRD isn't nearly as comfortable as a GC.
@@sebiues_1614 You have the Cherokee Trailhawk as Fiat ensures that most of the North American vehicles reach the European market.
"It doesn't have rock rails..."
"It does actually."
"Oh, IT DOES..."
*CUT*
_Lmao_
Good ep..its always awesome to see passionate folks showcasing their rigs and know what their talking about
Put this man on the channel! So much knowledge and very passionate!!!
Great Jeep. I'll let my coworkers know how much you enjoy it. Because we enjoyed making it for you. Shout out to the hard working men and women at JNAP!
Glad to hear that! I ordered my 2020 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk yesterday. (with the Hemi)
George I've been looking at them too. Kudos to your team.
Ricardo roams oh me too 2 days ago:)
Ricardo roams bro i have hemi too.do you know did chrysler fix camshaft and lifters problem (misfires on different cylinders) by changing oil pump to a stronger one?thank you
Detroit "The Motor City"!
this guy, really knows what he wants in the first place, great job TFL and Mr. Storm
Love the Trailhawk! Congratulations on your purchase, Storm!
Finally, they actually mention a negative to air suspension.
Thomas Rock Exactly, not what I would want.
@Thomas Rock
Yup. Bought mine brand new in 2015. Air pump needed replacing at 45000km and 81000km. Thankfully warranty covered those hiccups
Like that y'all went on a trail while discussing the vehicle. The owner was very knowledgeable and was comfortable on camera. Very professional presenter like.
Love that you guys covered a WK2 Trailhawk again. Love my 17 Hemi Trailhawk!
Nice Trailhawk! Definitely like the WK2's (and Grands in general) a lot more than the Wranglers; Wranglers are cool, but the Grands are so much more liveable on a day to day basis, especially when you're not trying to tackle the Rubicon.
I love my WK2 Grand Cherokee, it's not the Trailhawk, but it's the Overland Summit, top of the line for comfort and still keeps the offroad prowess. Air suspension gives me a smooth ride on the roads, or what's left of them in my state, but can raise up to about 12 inches of clearance for offroad. Can go almost anywhere a Wrangler can.
Good purchase Storm! I owned the '94 GC with the 4.0 straight 6 and put over 200k on that Jeep👍 I had the select trac 4 Wheel drive system and really enjoyed it.
Nathan is the man!!! Very enjoyable video.
I have the Overland. I'd like to see the Trailhawk vs a non trail rated Overland comparison.
Noting negative to say here. Great ride, smart young man who does his research modded his ride smartly all the while watching his pocket book and being able to enjoy life without going broke. I think he love his ride. Good job again Nathan, thumbs up bro.
This would be a perfect skiing and mountain car, that still runs good on the highway down in the valley
Just took delivery of mine,hemi,love it,after 6 Wranglers which I liked but this is everything I wanted and needed.
Nice vehicle. I think I’ve found my new car. Its very classy and the HMI tops it off.
Doesn’t a 1 inch bigger tire = 1/2 inch lift ?
You are 100% correct. That type of understanding is what separates the men from the boys
i only remember when he say with extra inch, he didn't clarify if around or diameter
@@tallll70 can't remember the size they said he went to specifically, but I don't think it was enough to give 2 inch increase.
TheMoschetta you just made me blush, brother
Yes but you have to remember that the bigger tire doesn't increase clearance between the tire and fender like a suspension or body lift will.
Awesome video, great looking Jeep, was just thinking about getting one for a family jeep
Great to see someone who did reaserch and knows what he wants.
And can tell about it.
@@carrollshelby8690 You sound like a hater.
I gave a 2015 wk2 overland with Quadralift and QD2. It's a good vehicle, but to really make it offroad capable it needs more armor stock.
My first trip I broke the ACC radar mount. So bought an ARB steel bumper to protect it in the future. Rear bumper armor is also important. I have a cracked rear bumper from the trails.
Great video! Just got a trailhawk myself (no hemi though) and absolutely love it. I agree that there reallt aren’t any negatives with it. It can go MOST places a wrangler can, but way more comfortable, and much smaller and manageable than the Rebel!
TFL's intro jingle could rival the THX intro for loudest sounds in the world lol
I have a 2016 GC limited 4x4 hemi and love it. Ome lift all the way around and 275s. Tows like a beast. I'm currently on vacation towing my 21' travel trailer at 6500 lbs loaded. Pulls through the Texas hill country with no issues.
For anyone that wants a light bar you can throw on some generic grip mounts on the tow hooks, drill into the fins of a curved light bar by 2 fins and mount it as needed. Makes for a nice add on for desert runs.
The perfect Gand Cherokee! I really like the mods too.
After years with JKs and JKUs and not fitting in the new JLU, considered the Trailhawk before getting a Nissan Armada which fits this ole man and still goes pretty much where I want comfortably. Enjoyed the interview, like the tire choice, that's a good looking rig.
Quadra drive II is an amazing system. I love them.
Just a shame the WK2 doesn't have the front locker too
Cole Hintermeister it used to have a front lsd like the rear. I believe it was mid to later 2000s. Check the wiki page on the Jeep 4x4 systems.
@@ryanmartinage Yup. 05-10, the original WK platform. Hence the specific mention of the 11-present WK2 platform 😉 Front and rear electronic limited slips and a locking center when you drop to 4low.
@@carrollshelby8690 yet somehow he was able to take it out to do some trails and not get stuck! Witchcraft!
@@carrollshelby8690 exactly, the point is irrelevant, just like the quadracrap you're spewing in all these comments.
What a great video! I love the JGC Trailhawk. It will be very interesting to see what they do with the next generation of it for 2021.
I was thinking of buying the GC Trailhawk after the holidays but if they are coming out with an upgraded generation in the fall of 2020, I think I should wait.
@@RicardoRoams @Desert Rat 100% wait man. This platform is almost 10 years old now. It's super solid but very dated. Of course as with any first generation remodel there will be some bugs and stuff to deal with that first year.
They won't do anything radical for 2021 since is has been a good seller and still looks modern.
My favorite grand cherokee review so far. subscribed.
Would Storm be willing to come back to try cliffhanger 2.0 in his Trailhawk?
VW Touareg vs Jeep Grand Cherokee Trail Hawk please.....
Rich Farfugnuven yes please
Almost chose the Trailhawk, but chose the two door Wrangler Willy's edition for a few reasons: Its my second vehicle, so I don't need a highway cruiser. the soft top and removable doors are awesome and the short wheelbase is way better for trails, and WAY more after market upgrades are available for the Wrangler.
Needed a mid sized SUV with power to pull my Basecamp X trailer. Got a 2019 Grand Cherokee Summit with a hemi and Skid Plates for Minor Off-Roading. I'm very Happy
I have the same trailer. what kind of hwy mpg do you get towing at 70?
As the owner of a loaded 2017 GC Trailhawk Hemi, and a 2005 Wrangler Rubicon with 2.5" TeraFlex lift, I can say that the Trailhawk will do 90% of what the Rubicon will do off-road, but in absolute comfort. Don't get me wrong, I love my Rubicon, but the Trailhawk is the vehicle we use for nearly everything. Road trips, off-roading, pulling our 21ft camp trailer, occasionally pulling car trailers, it's just our go-to vehicle. It is also surprisingly fun to drive in Sport mode (which lowers/firms up the suspension, changes steering feel, and changes shifting either with or without use of the paddle shifters). For reference, we have the Rubicon, a Ram Rebel, Lexus LS, BMW Z3, as well as a few others, and the Trailhawk absolutely sees the most use, and it has been exceptionally reliable so far. All of that being said, when I went to Moab in June, I took the Rubicon, because there is just nothing quite like exploring in a Wrangler.
Loren Dechaine I drove a lifted WK for 11 years, it was a great all-round vehicle, good for trails and highway. One big, frustrating problem I had was the IFS bushings don’t last after heavy articulation. Over 85k miles, I had to replace all front bushings 3 or 4 times, which got real expensive. I presume the IRS of the WK2 will be the same, so now it will be doubly expensive over the long term. I replaced the WK with a JLUR and while I’ll probably have to replace the front bushings every 40k miles or so, it’s a much easier / cheaper job.
I'm looking at a used (rental use) 2019 JGC trailhawk. 12k or 13k miles. Red, V8. 12K miles put on it in 16 weeks. Say about 700 a week. Should that concern me? What if it was rode hard and pushed too hard during the breaking in period? Will I be screwed down the road? If I buy it (carmax) I'll definitely have my mechanic inspect it
Very hardy SUV and reliable !!
I have a request if you are in contact with representatives of a Jeep, then tell them for Russia they made the most reliable jeep!
There is one Jeep Grand Cherokee in 2013 with a 3.6 engine, it has a mileage of almost 800,000 thousand kilometers or 497,096,954 thousand miles !! Not a problem except a broken gearbox !!
Fantastic video...thanks guys! 👍
Dude knows his stuff, which is awesome!
I have a 2015 GC Overland Diesel w/ Off-road II package and air suspension, with now about 48k. I love it. Have added extensive off-road bash plates (Australian "Chief Products") and large Mopar rock rails. Zero problems, except for rear brakes at 25K, and FCA "dieselgate" (got a check for $3,075 for that), which has caused my mpgs to drop by about 4 both on city and hwy (but still averaging about 22 combined). Put a set of Goodyear Wrangler Duratacs on it at 25k and those have been fabulous (ran 2 sets of those on my previous offroader, 2004 Chevy Tahoe Z71, on which I broke axeks off road but still ran it to 189k when I sold it last summer). I frequently off-road my GC in Northern Michigan, in some pretty gnarly stuff, to get back to where I hunt and fish. The thing's a damn mountain goat, and is also a great ride on the highway, too. Have been all over Michigan's Upper Peninsula with it, taking the wife rock hunting every summer (while I try to fish). Yes, I would buy another, but (especially given today's gasoline prices) I would probably get the 5.7 Hemi V8. My 84-year old stepdad in northern Michigan has had 3 Ram 3/4 ton pickups with that engine and they all ran/run excellent -- still has the 1998 (plow truck) and the 2007 which still looks brand new (and frequently goes off road). Thanks for sharing your vehicle with us, Storm!
Nice, practical, and good looking ride. After watching the video, I'd probably ditch the air ride and go with an actual lift. It seemed very stiff off road. Thanks for the video.
Great vehicle. Great owner. The Wrangler is more capable off road but the GC Trailhawk can do a lot.
Those tires look great - particularly since they don’t affect highway mileage.
Great video! I just bought a 2019 Trailhawk. I absolutely love it on and off road! One question for you... do you get any rubbing from the tires when you're at "entry/exit" height? I definitely want to go a little bigger on the tires, and I've got to get some rock sliders. Mine didn't come with them. 😒
I have been wondering as well about the clearance and or/ rubbing with the Falken 265 65 R18. Especially at speeds of 60 mph. or above when the Trailhawk automatically goes into Aero mode and drops itself.
Awesome video, coincidence you uploaded this vehicle as I've been scouring RUclips for more 5.7 Grand Cherokee vids.. want to get into either a Trailhawk or Limited X with a Hemi
The seats in the Trailhawk make that thing the most comfortable vehicle I have ever been in
Limited X don’t have tow package. Hemi without towing capacity. Get the Trailhawk with Lux group. The most comfortable suv out there. Great for off road too.
I have this exact jeep, color, and all. I agree about the seats. I'm on my second wk2. The trailhawk gets the same seats as the SRT with extra bolstering. I prefer them to the seats in the other trims.
@@nyxsyn Hurricane is that you?
@@youngblood23rb nah, not hurricane, whoever's that is. 🤔
Nice video guys!
We love ours. 18 with the hemi. Step up the tire size. Added catch can, intake and exhaust and it’s amazing. Such a nice vehicle.
'Member when 'offroad worty grand cherokee' was just all grand cherokees with 4Low?
Now they're all off road worthy but you just pointed out what makes this one and others Trail Rated.
I have a 2014 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. I love it. 106,000 miles and counting. I have the 3.2 V6. 26 mph on the road. I have lockers. They work great.
I bought a 2018 5.7 TrailHawk in December of 2018 brand new. The experience buying it was super simple. Honestly the fastest I’ve ever been in and out of the dealership. I bought the TrailHawk as a daily driver/light off-road vehicle. I own a ‘12 Rubi for my wheeling fun lol. Pretty much all I’ve ever owned has been Jeeps. Had and Audi TT, and a Chevy Colorado when it first came out with the 5 cylinder. But from owning all Wranglers I couldn’t see DD a Wrangler and leaving it stock that’s why I went with the TrailHawk. The 5.7 I went with due to have owned the 3.6 and 3.8 six cylinder engines and had bad luck with both. Diesels I know nothing about them. I’ve had it for 11 months put 25k on it already. Multiple road trips 10hrs straight was the longest but most are around 8hr trips. Comfortable! Not tired after driving, I wanna get back in and keep driving after trips lol. Nothing I can really say about wheeling it as I’ve had it on sand and unmaintained roads. Still have an itch too take her out to a park and have some fun. Mod wise for it I’ve done 1.25” wheel spacers, leveling links. Now the downsides. Coming from driving Wranglers for the last 13 yrs to this is a big difference. Whipping it around not as easy, blind spots from the A pillars are a mofo, auto dimming rear/side mirrors are not good, I also wish the TrailHawk had the option of coils or air ride suspension, the air ride is nice but the for coming issues I’ve read with air suspension and the lack of being able to change it out is kinda a bummer. Otherwise I’ve been loving this Jeep.
Keep up the great videos as well dudes!
I bought a brand new 2018 5.7 Trailhawk in December 2017. Have 20k on it. Only issue has been the air suspension which required a new compressor a year ago. That would have been an $1,800 repair. I purchased an extended warranty so it will be covered for another 4 years.
4wd? Hemi? grand Cherokee... I’m in! Wk2 is a really nice design beautiful Jeep
I absolutely love my 2011 grand Cherokee limited 5.7 hemi, it doesn't have the best ground clearance, but that's fixing to change with a RC lift kit, but it has all the power of any muscle car and more off road ability than any vehicle on the road today!
Selling the 2017 Trailhawk. At the time l got it the JK Wrangler was still using the same 2005 era key, radio, buttons and displays as my 2006 Ram had. The GC was just such a leap into the future. Not to mention the $8,000 off when the dealers were not discounting the JK Wrangler at all.
When you go into Sport driving mode it hunkers down lower and firms the steering. On mountain roads the handling feels just very similar to my 2015 Charger R/T Road and Track l traded in on the Trailhawk.
The steering and road manners make up for any loss of off road capability IMO.
The new JL Wrangler is awesome but everytime l see one it is driven by a college girl or her Mom. The JL weld/frame issues and steering problems would steer me to the Gladiator since it has a different frame. The Grand Cherokee TH is for the true enthusiast IMO. If you want one with the Hemi get it now. I have read they are already limiting availability of the 3.6 V6 in Wranglers to push the Turbo 4 onto buyers. This may be the last chance to get a GC V8. Explorer and Blazer etc. are all V6 now. They may take the V8 away then youll have to spend 70-100k for a V8 in a Grand Wagoneer in a couple of years.
I had Falken Wildpeaks on my Trailhawk I think they were great and for the buck better then the other brands. But when you go to the stealership seems the people working there don’t know much about tires and kept saying that these tires are not made for this Jeep. So I asked them if they had a clue what they were talking about cause they were saying that the only tires that should be on there are the ones you see on most of the base model Jeeps. I had the Falkens and Cooper Discoverer AT3 got more compliments with the falkens.
Thanks for sharing young man
I have the exact same one and I love it.
A 1" taller tire nets you a 1/2" lift/additional ground clearance
It would be cool for you guys to do am"One year later" update. To see if owners still love it hate..and if they would buy or lease again!!
Just bought one, picking it up next week. BTW, the stock roof rails limit crossbars plus rack or box plus contents to 150 pounds. There are a lot of off-road or overlander looking racks out there that you’d have to very skimpily utilize or risk breaking your roof. New guy, Offroad Animal, says he has engineered a replacement rail/roof rack that ties into stronger roof supports and can hold 250 lbs.
While we’re on the subject of capacity, the 5.7L Hemi Trailhawk is kind of a rolling contradiction. Weighing over 5,000 pounds, it’s trailer towing capacity is cited as 7,200 pounds. However, because of the weight added by the heavier engine, the 4WD, the air suspension system and the underbody cladding components, its maximum payload is only 1,130. That number consists of your passenger, any added gear (such as winch, rock rails, additional underbody cladding, etc.) roof carrier and contents, cargo carried inside the vehicle, and the tongue weight of your trailer (generally 10 to 15% of the trailers gross weight). Suppose you have a passenger at 150 lb, roof carrier with contents at 150 lb, and 300 lbs of interior cargo, That leaves only 530 for the trailer tongue weight, so you’re really limited to a 5,000 lb trailer in this scenario. Much less if you’ve added the winch and other cool stuff.
I’m moving up to the Trailhawk from a 1999 Volvo V70 XC wagon. Even though the Trailhawk is 1,250 lb heavier, 11” taller, 7.2” wider, and about 4” longer, with a wheelbase that is 10.5” longer, it has 2 cu ft less interior cargo area with the second row of seats folded down. The TH’s cargo volume is listed as 38 cu ft behind all seats and 68 with rear seats down. Nowhere is the actual floor area or cargo space height listed, so I went to the dealer and measured. The rear space is 41” wide and 38” long - as someone posted elsewhere that’s not wide enough to fit a bag of golf clubs (I’ve never golfed so that doesn’t matter to me but I’ve had a lot more width in almost every car I’ve ever had and I would have preferred something over 48”). The additional floor space provided by the folded seats IS wider (shoulder room in the back seat is listed as 58”) and 28” long. Depending on how far up or back the front seats are positioned, you may have a 5” or so gap between the cargo floor and the front seats. Height is 31” throughout, except at the very rear where the roofline slopes so you lose a 15 x 15” triangle 41” wide.
Love my Grand Cherokee limited 3.0 L Diesel. Now have about 83,000 miles!
Getting a '05 GC w/Hemi with 180km on it for $1000 CAD (about $750 USD)
Never been used offroad, was my Grandpa's. I am thinking about getting a 4 inch Superlift and some 33 inch tires on it... can't wait to join the Jeep club!
You made a Great Choice, the Grand Cherokee is a much better vehicles all around. It is Luxurious, has a stylish exterior and interior, very comfortable, has lots of technology, and very good off road. The Wrangler only has one of those things and that is good at off roading.
And what does "off-reading" mean ??🤔🤔
@@maitreytelang2312 I fixed it
@@Alex.AL_26 👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌
Agreed. I originally wanted a Wrangler, but due to price and some experience riding and driving in them, decided on the smaller Cherokee Trailhawk. It's comfortable over a long road trip and as a daily driver. Handles every off-road situation I've come across (living on a mountain miles from the nearest paved road). Only change I'd make is upgrading to the Grand Cherokee if I started a family, just for the little bit extra room and more tech/luxury options. All-in-all, better choice than a Wrangler if you're looking for something that doubles as your daily vehicle
He made that trail look easy!
I bought my bride a Diesel Summit, which has all the Trailhawks off road equipment, except the tires and wheels, plus an awesome interior. On the road we’ve gotten 34 mpg (I wasn’t driving). Tons of torque.
In theory the Trailhawk is perfect but I was surprised how stiff the air suspension is, when I test drove one. Is the Limited with no air suspension more comfortable off road?
Yes. I have a limited with a eibach all terrain lift kit on 33 by 17inch (Rubicon wheels) and it is so comfortable aired down.
Great video thank you!
Bought a 2019 Overland with the 5.7 and I absolutely love it
Lyndon Kassebaum so then you can vouch for this kid being completely full of shit when he said he was getting 24mpg’s on trips to wherever the hell he said he was going.
Don Olypopper i have 2020 5.7 12 mpg in city with eco off)) i drove a hummer,so i dont care a lot about its mpg)just enjoy)
Mine averages right around 20mpg running 70-75 down the highway
Yeah, seems high mpg for V8. However, the air suspension is key. For highway you lower it for better aerodynamics. You aren’t riding with it it lifted on hw.
I actually bought a JL Rubicon and after 6 months I hated it and traded it for a GC Trailhawk. Love the Trailhawk!!
All depends on what you use it for. What did you hate about the JL in particular?
Not sure what his gripes are but the biggest one in my book is that the seat is absolutely terrible. I’m 6 foot one so not huge but I cannot get comfortable in that seat. My knee hits the shifter with the seat all the way back I don’t find the position very comfortable and they just don’t have a premium feel for a $60,000 vehicle.
RedWings-44 Hate was maybe a strong word, more disappointed. I started with the hard top and as a two door, taking the freedom panels out made highway driving a nightmare. So much buffeting and wind noise. My ears legitimately ached. Soft too fixed that but created another. One the 2 door, there is nowhere to put the soft too windows cause they don’t roll. Likely not an issue on the 4 door. Mine didnt have the LED lights, instead had halogens. You can’t buy a Kia with halogen lights anymore. At night it was terrible!
Biggest issue was the driving experience. As a daily driver and long road tripper the seat was pretty tough to get dialed in and it wore me out. It required a ton of input driving on the interstate. Put on 35’s and a 2.5 inch lift and it only got worse. Ended up having to remove the lift.
And my favorite gripe...the radiator fan. Sitting in traffic downtown in the summer people asked if my car was ok. So loud and always on!/
I needed a car that was a swiss army knife. Really good at a lot of things. Wrangler Rubicon 2 Door is like a machete. Its great at getting through the tough stuff, but good luck buttering toast. Haha. The WK2 has great manors on road, has yet to let me down off road (I did put bigger KO2s on) and is one of my most comfortable overall drives ever.
@@curtwow I can definitely understand the seat issue. Although that "premium feel" for the price is put more toward practicality off-road, including the ability to hose down the entire interior in some cases.
JL was the issue. Get a jk
At LOOOOOONNNNGGG last we see Nathan!
So I'm looking for something like this VW. I currently have a lifted Tahoe on 34" with rear lockers offroad bumpers (wife hates it), has lots of miles. Wife has a gen 1 X5 v8, rear air springs, 1 inch bigger tires, has lots of miles on it. Think to replace both with one vehicle, but needs to get better MPG. Thinking Porsche Cayenne diesel with air springs or Jeep GC diesel with the air springs (reliability is concerning). It gets off-roaded and pulls a trailer now and then. I do like BMW, but the off-road-ness is lacking. 4runner is good, MPG sucks, but holds value well. Advice?
The spare compartment for my Wk2 Trailhawk looks pretty dang tight. Were you able to fit a spare tire, for those Falkens, back there?
Wondering between this and a high altitude for my next purchase. What were your thoughts on the trailhawk as your daily driver on regular open roads?
I owned a 2003 Cherokee Overland for a while.... pretty much had to remortgage my house to pay for all the repairs.
Yeah the 4.7L sucks. Should've had one with the 4.0L
I Have a 2002 grand cherokee Laredo with the 4.7 v8 ! It’s a very reliable engine if well maintained ! Maybe the previews owner of your GC didn’t do maintenance on it!
@@willem0698 - Did I say it had engine problems?
WJs are great. Especially if you had a v8 Laredo with the rare NP242HD transfercase. Straightpip the exhaust and they sound GLORIOUS. And they were quick. I had a 2000 with the regular 4.7. My next one will be an H.O.
Cars And Zebras why are you being a dick?
Next time: Storm's brother, Tornado, shows us his new (to him) Holden Hurricane!
Great-looking Grand-Cherokee!
There are aftermarket winch mounting brackets for the Grand Cherokee. I have a winch on my GC Trailhawk. But I having taken it off road a lot have never needed it. But in 2020 I did the White Rim Road in Canyonlands in my Gladiator. It’s normally not a super hard trial. I’ve done it a couple times in Grand Cherokeses. There was a sand pit this time that required lockers to get through. I later ran into a guy in a Grand Cherokee, no winch, going the other way. He had been stopped by the sand pit and to get to his camp sites he had to detour probably at least 75 miles. If he had a winch he would not have had to detour.
Good choice on tires, Falken Wildpeak AT3W
Look how proud Nathan is 5:00
those tires and that color look great! also I think the Hemi is the way to go if you can!
Great Video, kinda like the VW Touareg you guys bought
Remember that time you brought on a Jeep Salesman to tell us how much he loves his rig.
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Love it now a rough country winch bumper and it perfect
I love it video 💯
Best of both worlds. Luxury and off road
He knows what he bought and searched before buying. That's how it's supposed to work. Most people don't do that anymore. Most people just walk in and want all the bells and whistles without knowing what engine or how the bells and whistles work. I like what he said about the snorkel. He's right and I say it all the time, its not just a snorkel. You have to also make sure water doesnt get into the electrical system either. You even see a fuse box get full of water? Not fun. Think about the exhaust system as well. More to it then just a snorkel.
Wrangler guys sitting here making fun of storm while actually being jealous we can’t get a hemi...
Well you can get a hemi in a Wrangler it just costs a lot more. 🙃
I think the main reason for that is the GC's tow rating. The hemi's power and torque are a good option if you expect to tow 5k or more. The Wrangler isn't rated for that so Jeep doesn't feel the need to offer it. Just my two cents.
This guy goes off road more than 98% of Wrangler owners
Slingsomelead I will never be jealous of a soccer mom “ SUV “ and I definitely do not want a Hemi
Mr S you’re such a 👶
you get the like for the jeep and carVertical :)
It would be nice to see a comparison with the Dodge Durango (virtually the same company). The Durango can option a Trailer Brake Controller and tow more I believe. Durango's don't sell as well but are longer and look good. FCAs model and option packages are bewildering compared to the Honda-Toyota selection process.
i thought they have some aftermarket front camera options which will program in uconnect
might be better off wheeling with the air suspension lower than the max and getting a tad of droop. smoother to drop just a tire into a hole than to be maxed and lean the whole car over into it. super stiff max lifted suspensions can ride like having no suspension at all.
This second gen WK just keeps getting better. Even if it is a ten year old design.
How does a wider and taller tire that’s sticking out 1.5” not affect your mpg? Merely changing the width changed my mpgs on my F150. It’ll also toss your speedo about 1.5 mph unless you reset it.
He made a good point. When the WK went to IFS and then full independent with the WK2 the grand Cherokee lost a lot capability. They made up for it with smart traction control but going back to the solid axle ZJ and WJ you see how much more capable they were.
You are aware the earlt Waggoneers and Grand Waggoners were independent suspension.
The carvertical report of the Touareg says it's a Manual transmission... how accurate is this service?
So I own a 2017 Trailhawk and I can echo much of what he said because its a great vic. I went with the GOBI low profile roof rack and it's awesome. I really like the ruggedness and the luxurious comfort in the cab. Though not many, there are just a few negatives. If you are single with a dog or married with one kid and a dog...this vehicle is great. Once your family gets bigger than that, space becomes an issue. We have two kids and about to get a second large breed pup and I'm already looking for something with 3 rows of seating. Just something to think about. Another negative is the fact that there are no A/C vents in the cargo area. We live down south and when I have my lab in the back, it takes her a while to cool off. The Durango and Explorer both have cargo vents, but for some reason Jeep decided not to do that in the Cherokee. Hope this helps you if you are considering one of this awesome SUVs.
Awesome Jeep. I really like the trail hawk GC. The ride off-road with the air springs at the highest setting looked punishing on the body though.
When in offroad#2 it is rougher because there is less suspension travel, most of the time you don't need that much height and in OR#1 you get more travel and articulation. I use OR#1 until I need OR#2 then I lower back down. Some scraping and banging of skidplates is ok, that's what they are there for.