Thanks! Just ordered my first race bike in....~14 years lol. Really excited to get back into it. I ordered the 21' Haro Pro XL! Thanks for all of the pointers:]
I'm an old school bmx racing dude. 83 to 85. I had a Raleigh pro burner. Upgrading to a Curtis race frame. I'm always fascinated by race bmx. Love watching the new bikes. Will have to save for one. Lol. They look amazing.
Ehhh ... We didn't press those headset cups in back in the warm summer nights of the 80's. We banged em in with a hammer and piece of wood. It was usually around dusk we worked on our bikes tho. Daytime consisted of sleeping or the pool.
Yea, I raced BMX from 80-84, age 12-17, always worked on my own bikes. I'm 53 now, don't even know how these new one's go together! That's why I am watching this!
Back in the day, there were guys called "Spinners." These guys ran a 41-42 front. 16-14 rear. Once the gate dropped, they'd be a bike length ahead of everyone.
Hey Barry 2 questions. 1: I wanna put carbon rims on my 2018 citizen (just like yours) but I keep hearing casing jumps isn't good for them. I also hear they're really strong. If I case jumps every now and then will they be fine? 2: I bought my citizen from someone at my track who didn't take really good care of it, so there are a few light scratches, can I just get the same color paint and fix them?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge- just wondering the best way to use spaces on my steering tube would you suggest some below the stem and some above ghe stem or all above or below as I don’t really want to cut the tube I’m dealing with 20mm of extra tube. Thanks 🙂
How does the half link chain work with the decimal gear? I was thinking about running that setup, but I’ve heard the decimal gear doesn’t pair very well with the half link.
legend Barry Nobles which alot people may not know wow miss old days Donny Robinson, Bubba Harris, Greg Romero and John purse so many greats that I have watched. I can't imagine the speed we would of had if we had the the bikes now a days which I rode Staats and Intense but even more interesting how hard packed and smooth the tracks are they're like concrete all the round whole track its crazy.
Idk what the full weight is yet but my next freestyle build will be lighter than many race bikes. Ti frame forks bars and cranks. Free coaster. Gyro. Fat 2.3 front tire. Pegs. 14.22-14.77 pounds before accounting for a bunch of titanium upgrades. And other weight savings methods. No holes drilled.
@@barrynobles95 im gonna do some videos on it and the build process and some other bits with it. gotta wait for some parts as they are semi production but parts list so far(custom frame and fork down the line with a tapered headtube set up, custom bars 25.4mm tapered set up for better clamp and strength but till i figure out what i want geo wise this is the starter build. eastern titanium grip reaper 21 inch eastern titanium tranny bars 9x29 titanium laird forks titanium rnc cranks 22mm bolt drive ciara monza stem kink ceramic titanium mid bottom bracket probably modified a tad kink ceramic titanium headset modified a bit though fsa bearings are an option for a full custom built headset. alienation malice and mischeif rims. far east cycles front hub(have another option but should work well for racing too its like 6 ounces and sub 200$ with all titanium internals) freenight planetary coaster hub. alloy nipples butted spokes but 6 ti spokes each wheel. propeller pattern. couple options for pedals seat and post. 2 sprocket choices and a couple chain choices. brakes im still playing with same with pegs as well. front tire khe 2.3 rear tire mitas speedo lt 1.95 folding tire. titanium custom bits for the rear hub, have a cassette set up as well thats also gonna need custom ti bits. also have a few areas i can drop weight already if need be on some of the more set in stone parts.
Just got a HARO Annex 24" and want to put on some nice 10" rise bars (came with 9" rise). I want them durable and lightweight. I'm 6 ft and 218 lbs, so it will take a beating. What do you recommend? Thx
Hey 4ME2DRV! Same height and weight as you. I started looking at the Haro Annex and like what I see. How’s it working out for you so far? Was originally looking at the 20” Annex for my 11-year-old son but would love the same bike for myself 🙂 I imagine I should go with the 24” version though but haven’t seen all the sizing options yet. It’s worth noting that I’m getting a little older like this guy said in the video… so, it’d be nice to sit down a little more often than when I was younger, especially when I’m just cruising around the neighborhood with my kid… not when I go to the park though. There’s a nice park and a pretty nice bmx/dirt jump track where we live here in Austin that I used to ride a lot but haven’t in a while. I’d love to get my kid into it. I know he’d have a great time and really enjoy it! Anyhow, any advice you could give based on your experience with the Annex would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
@@nickb5091 I love it. Its been over a year and I've raised the bar and seat, replaced the seat with a little bigger one and put some bigger tires on it (went from 1.75" to 2.2"). Rides perfect now! Been riding it a ton and it is holding up great.
Thanks for all the videos! Watched this video at least 10 times now. Lol I have the citizen frame I’m in the process of getting parts together. Crank question! How important are the high end cranks?
High end is always nice but usually your just paying for lighter weight and higher quality. A basic 2-3 piece crank that would come on a complete bike would be fine for awhile to get started. Always good to upgrade over time tho as you progress You should never be running a 1 piece crank tho
@@barrynobles95 yes no 1 piece cranks lol I actually do have a blackout with the generic 2 piece on there(not the cliqs unfortunately) I’m thinking do I really want to break them down or just start fresh with a high end crankset. I’m just wondering how to decide which crankset to buy, looks like it’s a toss up between Dxr, avian, and box maybe?
@@barrynobles95 also, I know this is could be a big subject, but crank size? Are the size charts right online? I’m 34/35” inseem. So by default I would go 180mm or even higher maybe. But, on the other hand I had someone tell me 180mm is too long everyone is running 177.5mm or lower, can you suggest size for me?
How much would this complete build cost brother it’s sick I want to get it for my son for Christmas thanks for your videos keep them coming he likes to jump a lot any suggestions on building out this bike would be appreciated!!
Hey Barry I had a serious question about Gear Ratios! So I am 11 and I ride 165 cranks with a 42 tooth sprocket and a 16 in the back but It feels like the cranks are a little big so I think I should switch to 160 cranks with a 44 tooth sprocket and same in the back but my dad told me that you get more Leverage with the big cranks but I would have more pedal clearence with the Small cranks What do you think I should do!!!!!!
@@leo134-t8l If you think your legs are extending too much then go to 160s. When you go to a shorter crank length you would need to decrease the roll-out of the gearing and not increase. I would keep the 42t in the front if you are going to 160s. Remember longer crank = bigger gear, shorter crank = smaller gear. I am 6 foot on the spot and running 180s. I was on 175s last season then switched to 180s a month ago and I got a lot faster.
I’m enjoying the bike so far ruclips.net/user/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.
@@drorco6627 work? His frame alone is over 1000$ people can’t afford that now a days mom and dad have to buy these kids these bikes if they don’t have sponsors
Time travel fantasy number 6, take that bike to my kid self in grade 6 1983! Tell my best friend what? It's a regular BMX! You been sniffing glue? As they all trip on my " carbon " HARO.
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Thanks! Just ordered my first race bike in....~14 years lol. Really excited to get back into it. I ordered the 21' Haro Pro XL! Thanks for all of the pointers:]
Just ordered my my brooke crain citizen!!!! So pumped can't wait love your build.
I'm an old school bmx racing dude. 83 to 85. I had a Raleigh pro burner. Upgrading to a Curtis race frame. I'm always fascinated by race bmx. Love watching the new bikes. Will have to save for one. Lol. They look amazing.
Great videos, keep em coming. Makes me wanna start racing again.
Ehhh ... We didn't press those headset cups in back in the warm summer nights of the 80's. We banged em in with a hammer and piece of wood. It was usually around dusk we worked on our bikes tho. Daytime consisted of sleeping or the pool.
Wow have things changed since the 80’s!
Yea, I raced BMX from 80-84, age 12-17, always worked on my own bikes. I'm 53 now, don't even know how these new one's go together! That's why I am watching this!
@@BlkLiteTiger-ne7ol I'm trying to order parts for my grandson BMX build...I have no idea what to buy??? help
@@stuntdrvr I can't help you , I haven't put together a BMX bike since 1985, Lol!
Back in the day, there were guys called "Spinners." These guys ran a 41-42 front. 16-14 rear. Once the gate dropped, they'd be a bike length ahead of everyone.
Good to see you back!!
I set my chain the same way but how do you fix tight spots in your chain?
I never usually have them.
Hey Barry 2 questions. 1: I wanna put carbon rims on my 2018 citizen (just like yours) but I keep hearing casing jumps isn't good for them. I also hear they're really strong. If I case jumps every now and then will they be fine? 2: I bought my citizen from someone at my track who didn't take really good care of it, so there are a few light scratches, can I just get the same color paint and fix them?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge- just wondering the best way to use spaces on my steering tube would you suggest some below the stem and some above ghe stem or all above or below as I don’t really want to cut the tube I’m dealing with 20mm of extra tube. Thanks 🙂
Love the videos,keep up the good work
How does the half link chain work with the decimal gear? I was thinking about running that setup, but I’ve heard the decimal gear doesn’t pair very well with the half link.
legend Barry Nobles which alot people may not know wow miss old days Donny Robinson, Bubba Harris, Greg Romero and John purse so many greats that I have watched. I can't imagine the speed we would of had if we had the the bikes now a days which I rode Staats and Intense but even more interesting how hard packed and smooth the tracks are they're like concrete all the round whole track its crazy.
Idk what the full weight is yet but my next freestyle build will be lighter than many race bikes.
Ti frame forks bars and cranks. Free coaster. Gyro. Fat 2.3 front tire. Pegs.
14.22-14.77 pounds before accounting for a bunch of titanium upgrades. And other weight savings methods. No holes drilled.
That sounds rad. I wanna see it when your done!
@@barrynobles95 im gonna do some videos on it and the build process and some other bits with it. gotta wait for some parts as they are semi production but parts list so far(custom frame and fork down the line with a tapered headtube set up, custom bars 25.4mm tapered set up for better clamp and strength but till i figure out what i want geo wise this is the starter build.
eastern titanium grip reaper 21 inch
eastern titanium tranny bars 9x29
titanium laird forks
titanium rnc cranks 22mm bolt drive
ciara monza stem
kink ceramic titanium mid bottom bracket probably modified a tad
kink ceramic titanium headset modified a bit though fsa bearings are an option for a full custom built headset.
alienation malice and mischeif rims. far east cycles front hub(have another option but should work well for racing too its like 6 ounces and sub 200$ with all titanium internals) freenight planetary coaster hub. alloy nipples butted spokes but 6 ti spokes each wheel. propeller pattern.
couple options for pedals seat and post. 2 sprocket choices and a couple chain choices. brakes im still playing with same with pegs as well. front tire khe 2.3 rear tire mitas speedo lt 1.95 folding tire. titanium custom bits for the rear hub, have a cassette set up as well thats also gonna need custom ti bits. also have a few areas i can drop weight already if need be on some of the more set in stone parts.
What size is the rim ? 20" x 1.75"?
Have you a collection of old bikes since you were racing..? Got a Mongoose?
Just got a HARO Annex 24" and want to put on some nice 10" rise bars (came with 9" rise). I want them durable and lightweight. I'm 6 ft and 218 lbs, so it will take a beating. What do you recommend? Thx
sounds dope
Hey 4ME2DRV! Same height and weight as you. I started looking at the Haro Annex and like what I see. How’s it working out for you so far? Was originally looking at the 20” Annex for my 11-year-old son but would love the same bike for myself 🙂 I imagine I should go with the 24” version though but haven’t seen all the sizing options yet. It’s worth noting that I’m getting a little older like this guy said in the video… so, it’d be nice to sit down a little more often than when I was younger, especially when I’m just cruising around the neighborhood with my kid… not when I go to the park though. There’s a nice park and a pretty nice bmx/dirt jump track where we live here in Austin that I used to ride a lot but haven’t in a while. I’d love to get my kid into it. I know he’d have a great time and really enjoy it! Anyhow, any advice you could give based on your experience with the Annex would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
@@nickb5091 I love it. Its been over a year and I've raised the bar and seat, replaced the seat with a little bigger one and put some bigger tires on it (went from 1.75" to 2.2"). Rides perfect now! Been riding it a ton and it is holding up great.
@@4ME2DRV That’s awesome! Those are all great tips. Thank you!
what up with the 48peregrine rims
Thanks for all the videos! Watched this video at least 10 times now. Lol I have the citizen frame I’m in the process of getting parts together. Crank question! How important are the high end cranks?
High end is always nice but usually your just paying for lighter weight and higher quality. A basic 2-3 piece crank that would come on a complete bike would be fine for awhile to get started. Always good to upgrade over time tho as you progress
You should never be running a 1 piece crank tho
@@barrynobles95 yes no 1 piece cranks lol I actually do have a blackout with the generic 2 piece on there(not the cliqs unfortunately) I’m thinking do I really want to break them down or just start fresh with a high end crankset.
I’m just wondering how to decide which crankset to buy, looks like it’s a toss up between Dxr, avian, and box maybe?
@@barrynobles95 also, I know this is could be a big subject, but crank size? Are the size charts right online? I’m 34/35” inseem. So by default I would go 180mm or even higher maybe. But, on the other hand I had someone tell me 180mm is too long everyone is running 177.5mm or lower, can you suggest size for me?
@@barrynobles95 well I just went for it. 175mm avians. About the only thing in-stock right now.
Youll be happy with the avians. If you’ve never ran 180s then youll like it
Can you write how to build including size of heasdset and etc
Where do I get the chase pro xl+ frame from ???
How much would this complete build cost brother it’s sick I want to get it for my son for Christmas thanks for your videos keep them coming he likes to jump a lot any suggestions on building out this bike would be appreciated!!
I don’t know exactly but I’d say roughly 2500-3k
Hey Barry I had a serious question about Gear Ratios! So I am 11 and I ride 165 cranks with a 42 tooth sprocket and a 16 in the back
but It feels like the cranks are a little big so I think I should switch to 160 cranks with a 44 tooth sprocket and same in the back but my dad told me that you get more Leverage with the big cranks but I would have more pedal clearence with the Small cranks What do you think I should do!!!!!!
Clearance isn't that much of an issue so don't change it. Plus it's only 5mm and you may think that 160mm is too short when you get them
@@ajpbmx7213 i know but i have 160s on my freestyle bike and they feel so much better
@@leo134-t8l If you think your legs are extending too much then go to 160s. When you go to a shorter crank length you would need to decrease the roll-out of the gearing and not increase. I would keep the 42t in the front if you are going to 160s. Remember longer crank = bigger gear, shorter crank = smaller gear. I am 6 foot on the spot and running 180s. I was on 175s last season then switched to 180s a month ago and I got a lot faster.
@@ajpbmx7213 thanks we did some testing with gears yesterday and I was fastest with 160mm cranks 44 tooth chainring and 18 tooth rear cog
@@leo134-t8l Oh I was assuming you were running a 16 on the back. Is this class or Cruiser?
I’m enjoying the bike so far ruclips.net/user/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.
Man I need a sponsor! 😭 i wish my bike set up would be this light I’m running an old 2008 intense podium
I run a 2011 redline roam
work,
@@drorco6627 man if only a minor could work
I run a black carbon radio
@@drorco6627 work? His frame alone is over 1000$ people can’t afford that now a days mom and dad have to buy these kids these bikes if they don’t have sponsors
David Graff says yes 👋😜
I'm running 12 inch front rim with a 26er in the back. it runs sweet...
i am from shelby farms bmx. i love watching this haro carbon citizen build. i had the haro citizen.
Time travel fantasy number 6, take that bike to my kid self in grade 6 1983! Tell my best friend what? It's a regular BMX! You been sniffing glue? As they all trip on my " carbon " HARO.
Dth is an awesome tire. That is what I use. They are very just hard to find!
Try the mitas speedo Lt its like the lightest race tire available. Khe tires also work.
how much does all this cost?
What frame would fit a person that is 5’5 ???
Chase pro XL+
@@barrynobles95 ok thank you
ayy barry! i know i’m late,are you going to high springs
Nice I ride a haro also but mine's not carbon
Can you please make a list of all the parts and their brands? Please
Haro frame. Avian bars, forks, rims, cranks. Profile hubs. Maxxis tires. To spokes. Rennon chain ring. Shadow chain. ODI grips. Cheap Shimano brakes. HT pedals. Mac number plate
@@barrynobles95 thanks man
Even my wife noticed the 1.5 bottom and extra stiffness!
Nah Taylor Hunt the 5th best in EU in his age group has a full carbon bike sooooo….
Always support Nine 5ive,,,Alabama Slamma,,,🤟🤟🤟🤟🧐
nice bike!
The tube is called a tubelio or something like that
I think it’s called a “Tubolito” tube
how tf is my expert xl full aluminum 17 pounds
🔥🔥
what about an Homestead bike idol🙂
Sick bro
my bike is 13 pounds. I didn't realise how light its was til now. Also why didn't you use the Haro fork
Liam Forlong sponsored by avian and probably likes them more
What bike is it?
Siena Stone a old 2016 redline flight pro XL
I call bullshit
Even if you had the carbon pro.. which you probably don't, your bike would be 18, 19 pounds
man i got a 2021 Dk Zenith
I’m riding a Bombshell Avent
70 buck for an tube wtf, go tubless without selant is more afordable and light-years lighter than any tube.
You need sealant
the bikes wayyyy over 1k
My bike is 12 pounds
u ride at hagerstown dont u ?
noice
idol
BARRY!!
your pro xl is heavy my pro xxl in 5.76 kg
BMX ELF .1987
😁😁
Give me brada. From indonesia. I like
boleh kah sepeda nya buat saya
kerna saya ingin menjadi pembalap bmx 😊
Boa manda pra mim essa aí
saya suka bmx
my bike weighs 16.5 lbs wow
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its ha - ro not har - ro
older brother give away please
Indonesia
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Stopped watching when you said shadow half link. Heavy chain.