+François Miville Correct! It was Francesco Morosini ,and Elgin who did most of the harm to the wonder!.. The five main instigators of the design and construction on the Parthenon Phidias , Ictinos Kalamis,and Callicrates.. i am sure they would curse the looters , if they were alive,for destroying the Symbol of Democracy and Classical Art.. The Parthenon played a key role in Athenian life,THEN AND NOW, as temple, artistic masterpiece and national symbol,and nobody had the right to act like this! Even in its decline and its state of damage, the beauty overwhelms, especially in person. A testament to the artistic genius of 2,500 years ago, the Parthenon still stands as evidence of one of the best achievements of humankind.
***** How wrong you are my friend! i don't know where you are taking your information..perhaps this is the opinion from a so called modern scholar,but the truth has nothing to do,with these unspeakable pathetic remarks!.. ΔΝΜΟΚΡΑΤΙΑ = Demokratía, from δῆμος dêmos, “common people", "assembly of the people”) + κράτος kráto “rule, strength”... Democracy in Athens was not limited to giving citizens the right to vote. Athens was not a republic, nor were the People governed by a representative body of legislators. In a very real sense, the People governed themselves, debating and voting individually on issues great and small, from matters of war and peace to the proper qualifications for ferry-boat captains (for the latter, see Aeschin. 3.157).1 The democratic government of Athens rested on three main institutions, and a few others of lesser importance. The three pillars of democracy were: the Assembly of the Demos, the Council of 500, and the People’s Court. These were supplemented by the Council of the Areopagus, the Archons, and the Generals. Actual legislation involved both the Assembly and the Council, and ad hoc boards of “Lawmakers.” This summary will describe the Assembly, the Council, and the process of legislation in the greatest detail, along with a shorter description of the Council of the Areopagus. The People’s Court will be covered briefly and then left for fuller treatment in other resources. While Generals and Archons will appear here and there in the descriptions of other institutions, they were really servants of the Demos and do not require extensive discussion in this relatively brief introduction to Athenian Democracy.A REAL DEMOCRACY! Citizens were paid for attending the Assembly, to ensure that even the poor could afford to take time from their work to participate in their own government. Aristotle recognized that inclusion of all citizens and freedom to speak are not the only hallmarks of a democratic constitution, but that the most democratic states pay their citizens for attending the Assembly. He claims that in the absence of payment, the Council (Boule, Βουλή) is the most democratic of magistracies (Aristot. Pol. 1317b), but in states that can afford to, and do, pay their citizens for attending meetings of the Assembly, all the citizens actually take part in it and exercise their citizenship, because even the poor are enabled to be at leisure by receiving pay (Aristot. Pol. 1293a) YOU SAID........, and in Athens it was a kind of pedophile, anal-contact-based initiation provided by a state-appointed mentor, the paiderastes, for purposes of mind-control by a secret authority (even though other forms of pedophilia and pederasty were not to be tolerated in Athens). ........... HOW ABSURD,AND PREPOSTEROUS THING TO SAY!.. Homosexuality in ancient Greece. A big issue, cause many misunderstandings or better deliberate misinterpretations. They have written thousands of pages, has been said countless reasons, most often without the slightest true, almost always misinterpreting specific philosophical positions. And before we begin any reference should first be clear something very basic. Current concepts of "homosexual," "gay" and "straight" does not exist for the ancient Greeks. Precisely because the Greeks had Morality not stemmed from various strange, inhuman, messianic doctrines nor had sprung through sadistic type threats of eternal punishment, but instead had Moral innate harmony with Nature, in contrast with our present society, where ours (which) morality is essentially an If-moral or a pseudo-moral, since mainly based on pseudo-inspired dogmas, so exactly and then meanings of various words like «έρως»="love",«φίλος»= ",«ερωμένος» " "«εραστής»,"= Lover ", distorted sound today - because, I repeat, the misleading representation that has been the concept of the word ethics...THE ANCIENT GREEKS HAD LAWS,LAWS IN A SOCIETY 2500 YEARS BEFORE OURS..DIFFERENT SOCIETY.WHO YOU ARE NOT TO IMAGINE OR TO UNDERSTAND! EXAMPLE.. "Teachers do not open schools before the sun rises and to close before sunset the sun. Do not permitted to those who have a superior child of age to enter into schools when there are within these children, unless it is a son, brother or groom the teacher. And if someone despite that is forbidden enters the school, is punished with the punishment of death.. "The Athenian, who became the lover of a man for money, does not have the right to be elected to one of the nine archons or to take Hieratic office or be presented as counsel in public law or occupy any dominion, whether in the city, or outside its limits, either defined by lot or by election, or sent as a public crier, nor to express concurring opinion, nor to participate in public religious ceremonies, nor tp bring publicly the crown nor to be wandering within that part of the market that has been purified by aspersion. If he does not do so he is guilty and he is punished by death " WE SHOULD LOOK IN OUR SOCIETY,WHICH IS FULL OF LESBIANS ,HOMOSEXUALS. TRANSSEXUALS,AND GAY MARRIAGES.. .IT'S BETTER TO GET THE TRUTH BEFORE WE WRITE ANYTHING! ENJOY!.
***** Do not complicate things with all these details.. Herodotus wrote, “there is, first, that most splendid of virtues, equality before the law.” It was true that Cleisthenes’ demokratia abolished the political distinctions between the Athenian aristocrats who had long monopolized the political decision-making process and the middle- and working-class people who made up the army and the navy (and whose incipient discontent was the reason Cleisthenes introduced his reforms in the first place)....ΚΛΕΙΣΘΕΝΗΣ. gave the right to the municipality to decide on everything. That included in this all Athenians automatically made popular sovereignty a reality for the first time in Athens history in general.... Pericles,built the Parthenon as an imperishable symbol of the greatness of Athens and of the inevitable triumph of civilization over the forces of barbarism, and Dictatorship... The Parthenon is indeed the symbol of democracy and the Greek civilization. It also symbolizes the beginning of the Western civilization and stands as the icon of European culture. HAVE A NICE DAY!
It is like most small children do they see a wonderful sandcastle build by another child admire it, become jealous at such skill or claim of the waterfront and destroy it Now the destruction by the Venetians and British is almost similar, but more complex... The Ottomans occupied Greece and stored munitions in the Acropolis if I remember correctly? Hence the Venetians who struggled for power over the med with the Turks bombarded a munitions depot! The free federation of the Ionian Islands asked the Venetians to occupy their Islands in order to fight of the Ottoman empire which they did for 400 years, The British the later ruler of the waves also assisted and protected the Greeks during the Ottoman occupation and in WWII ‘Lord’ Elgin like most colonizing empires thought them self superior to everyone else and best to ‘preserve’ these wonderful remains of the past in their British museum before they would fall into the hands of others....Hence the BM is stuffed with trophies from all over the “Commonwealth” Empire. Recently Our national Rijksmuseum gave back the biggest trophy we kept over the English, The stern of the flagship of the Royal Navy that admiral Michiel de Ruyter Took in a spectacular raid on the British naval home harbour.......Macron suggested to return the looted bronze sculptures of Benin...It is time to grow up! But the little light on the end of the tunnel is of course the poem by Lord Byron spoken in this video, He fought alongside , admired was inspired and even made love to Greeks
@François Miville British, Venetians, ottomans.. you forgot Byzantines Venetians were here to liberate the country, and bring it back safe to where it belonged to (Europe), after all
Με σεβασμο στο Χριστιανισμο και σε καθε θρησκεια-ιδεολογια αλλα οταν ειδα το Σταυρο στην κορυφη στο αέτωμα αηδιασα+στεναχωρεθηκα αυτο ειναι ασυγχωρητο θα αρεσε στην Χριστιανικη θρησκεια να παω να γκρεμισω ολες τις εκκλησιες και πανω τους να χτίσω δικους μου ναούς? Ντρεπομαι που ειμαι ανθρωπος ρε παιδια τι αισχη συνέβησαν και συμβαίνουν...νομίζω ούτε ο ίδιος ο Θεός θα ήταν σύμφωνος με αυτό ειλικρινά.Οσα μπραβο και να πω στους δημιουργούς του βίντεο δε θα έφταναν πραγματικα ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΟΥΜΕ.
Πολύτιμη Τιάρα !!!! Πολύτιμη Τιάρα, με διαμάντια, ζαφείρια , ρουμπίνια, και σμαράγδια!! Στα χέρια της η Βασίλισσα κρατάει, η ματιά της με θλίψη κοιτάει!! Το διαμάντι του πολιτισμού, μουσείο άπειρου κάλους και θαυμασμού!!! Τα ζαφείρια που λείπουν περιμένει, να λάμψει η Ακρόπολη η θλιμμένη!!! Με αγάπη και σεβασμό :Δόνα Αμαρυλλίς 13/5/2017!!!
I think the entire western world should pitch in and restore the entire Parthenon to its original glory as great as possible. Right next to the original this restored version should stand with the best and closest to original materials and techniques.
@@spirittchaser7043 Maybe, you have a point, however, I have an unpopular opinion: The British unintentionally kept these beautiful wonders in excellent condition by removing them. I think the Greek and Egyptian artifacts should be returned to their original owners and should pitch in to help rebuild the Parthenon to it's 'original' prestine 'condition'.
The video should go on to 2000 - 2014 AD to show how the Greeks are once again restoring the Parthenon after all these barbaric disasters the temple has undergone under foreign occupation. And it should be a lesson of persistence for us Greeks as well. We really like our stuff and we will be fixing them again, and again, and again. And again. Oh, and by the way. We would really like those marbles back...
It's still a marvel to behold. But it's ashame what fanaticism can do to people's minds.They can't accept the idea that deity can express itself through art as it did here.Long live Athena.
αυτό το βίντεο δείχνει ότι αυτοί που είχαμε και έχουμε μέχρι σήμερα σύμμαχους λεηλατούσαν την Ελλάδα και θα συνεχίσουν μέχρι να φτάσουν στην αποκαθήλωση μας
Yes these are Indeed facts 💯. I work with my farther at a restaurant In New York State. He Is the current boss after his brother the original owner passed away from an heart attack three years ago last week. January 3rd, 2020. His name was Peter and I was named after my father George. And even though I'm half African American through my mother and my father George Sr, Who Is of Greek Decent, I have that toughness of a Greek that have allowed me to still be alive today by the grace of God. (And I'm single with NO KIDS 34 years young with ZERO MAJOR DEBT. Should tell you smoething👍).
The so called"christians" were so STUPID to destroy such a magnificent creation. Why couldn't they just left it alone and go and build whatever they wanted somewhere else? So much beauty and history has been lost.
because they wanted to erase ancient gods whatever it may cost. Monotheist religions are shit. Look at what muslim do to the big Buddhas in Afghanistan. Same stupidity.
Instead of whining you should be thankful to the Christians if you care about the ancient monument. The Christian Roman Greeks didn’t harm the building, they merely removed the genitals of some naked statues as they converted the pagan temple into a christian basilica, because the Pagans no longer existed and all Athenians had become Christians. By making the Parthenon a church, dedicated to the Mother of Christ, renaming it as the Parthenon of the Virgin (parthenos) of Athens (Παναγία η Αθηνιώτισσα). It was during these time, when the building was a church that it had it’s greatest glory, as it was a very important pilgrimage location for two reason, because it was the symbol of the Ancient Greek civilization and wisdom and also because it was an important church of Panagia. And not only that, the Golden-ivory Statue of Virgin Athens from the Parthenon was not destroyed but instead taken to the capital, New Rome (Constantinople) to be displayed and enjoyed by the Roman Greeks there, an important part of their heritage.
@@Nullius_in_verba The only other outcome would have been to have the building (the Parthenon) and the rest of the Acropolis abandoned to become ruins by the exposition to the natural elements, erosion and earthquakes. That because an old polytheist ''hellenic'' temple would be completely useless in the center of a fairly a large city which Athens was in the Early Medieval Era, where the Athenian Greek populace had all willingly had converted to Christianity long ago. An abandoned temple would quickly become a ruin, while they instead they dedicate the Parthenon to another Virgin, the Theotokos Morther of Christ (Parthenon comes from Parthenos Athina, which according to the Greek Polytheism never accepted a lover). Some historians even claim that the most glorious days was then in Medieval Roman ("Byzantine") Athens, as previously it simply was a large temple on the acropolis of a city-state, and many others had similar ones (like the Acrocorith of Corinth), while in the Medieval Era not only did it have pilgrims go there to Panagia Athniniotissa (the medieval name for Parthenon) but also for the symbol that it was of Ancient Greece and Ancient Athens.
@@paulmayson3129 the problem isnt the reuse of the temple.. i think it great to breath in new life. The really big problem is the vandalism of the temple, the statues etc. That is the true sin here! Convert the temple, just dont change it
The willful destruction of such a beautiful creation is so horrid beyond words.It is almost like watching a murder right before your eyes. Why couldn't somebody have stopped this. Now the job to repair and reconstruct the Parthenon is so much harder and the work is so insufferably painstaking.
It is fantasy. They didn't have to break anything. Just cut some mortar. The stuff about cutting entire stone lintels and throwing them on the ground doesn't make sense.
@Cat People documentarys ....No, YOU are an idiot. Bruce Burns is right. They were not looted; and they are safe and secure where they are now. There is no valid principle that artifacts should be stored in geographical locations from where they were taken. (There are many Greek and Roman artifacts in the USA and Germany, etc. which were removed from Italy, Greece, Asia Minor, etc.)
Wow! This was emotional! The British Museum, the Louvre, the National Museum in Copenhagen, the Vatican Museums in Rome, and the Museum of Fine Arts in Vienna all MUST return these stolen artefacts to where they belong, and if they desperately want to keep their museums in business, they can make replicas for display. But ignoring the thievery that happened is them acknowledging they are thieves to date!
I think they´ll do. There was conversation relatively recently about the restauration process, they wont rebuild it completely up and even repaint it ( what would be epic though) but if i remember correctly they will restore it something back to the stadium it was before the bombardement when it was unfortunately "used" by the turks as a gunpowder magazine, so the whole thing blew up. I would love to see it one day in its original beauty or something close relatet.
At 3:12 they are removing the sculptures because if it gets old and the people go in they will hurt their heads so that;s why they are doing this.It's important
Also don't worry about the Parthenon because some greek people are going to rebuild it and it's going to be the same again.It's easy for me to draw a Parthenon but it takes about 8 or 9 years to rebuild the Parthenon.2019-2027.
@@MrJm323 Well, that's not the original Parthenon though, it's a replica. I guessed the comment above was implying the full restoration of the original one (which is unfeasible)
They belong to the true heirs of the Hellenic legacy. The Rhomaions (Christian Byzantine Greeks) forsook that legacy when, in addition to this 01:37 , they renounced the very name "Hellene" as a self-description. Lord Elgin had far greater claim to being an heir to this legacy (thanks to the Renaissance and the neo-classically focused Enlightenment) than just about any Greek at the time. Culture is NOT a racial/ethnic inheritance.
The Hellenic flame will never die ,no one can destroy the idea freedom, love of philosophy and democracy seeking the light of the truth in what ever direction.bless all good man who seek truth and freedom of all nations.of our world.and respect human right.after all isit not that what every one wants?.
You have to give credit to the British as they were the first people to actually think about preserving the ancient construction and getting it out of the weather and the open where anybody could destroy the ancient sculptures and carvings , one only has to look at the weathering of the marbles to see that they were 1000 years to late .
Yeah its high time the marbles were returned. Let's face it, when England took them it did so for no other real reason than "it could". It was rich, and powerful, and could go into a country and take what it liked. But imagine if it'd been, I dunno..the USA walking into southern England, taking a liking to Stonehenge, dismantling it, shipping it all to the plains of Kansas and re erecting it there. Because "it could." ;)
If the Americans develop a deeper appreciation of Stonehenge than a future Britain which has lost touch with its history (and is under the control of a culture which could physically threaten Stonehenge), ...then they should "walk in" and take it!! Culture is not the rightful inheritance of a people based on race and ethnicity -- but rather on cultural affinity and able scholarship. (And, in any event, neither the Anglo-Saxons nor the Celts are the ethnic descendants of those who constructed Stonehenge.)
Just so to understand the wrong interpretations that this video shows, it says that in 438 AD the Christians destroy the nude sculptures. And all the nude sculptures that exist in the New Acropolis and the British Museums??..... :)
@@angrybirdo Travellers' sketches from the 17th and 18th centuries show many in situ. Also many slabs from the metopes and the frieze were up there. The ones discovered in the excavation were blown by the explosion of 1687 AD.
It is obvious that you are not aware of the original sources that describe the monument from the 17th-18th c. Also of the fact that the relief slabs were removed from the monument,where they had been standing for centuries. If the christians wanted to destroy them, they had all the centuries they wanted to eliminate everything. We have to look other reasons and factors that lead to the destructions. And the european travelers give many indications. The "438 AD destructions of the christians" is such a simplification, taking away the blame from those that really acted barbarically over the centuries, especially the recent ones.
Στυλιανός Νομικός Nobody said that Christians did all the damage. Claiming that they did no damage like you do is historical revisionism and completely false.
The British Museum and Le Musée du Louvre two of many examples of this outdated mode d'emploi: A den of iniquity, a den of thieves and a last fading bastion of empirical colonisation along with all of the subjugation and denigration of indigenous cultures and peoples that went with all of that. The cultures affected and pillaged off of now have to make do with cruddy plaster copies in the actual places where the descendants of the creators of these oeuvres still inhabit and where their cultural property and heritage should actually still be. They are also reduced to asking, on bended knee and with humility to please may we BORROW our own cultural and historical output which is haughtily and snobbily rejected, even when they have specifically built a world-class museum to house their own cultural treasures in a better safer, more logically displayed situation and place NEAR to where these cultural artefacts actually always belonged. "Only the whitest of the whites may decide and have power over who may have any right to what has become, given that what We have looted from you or your occupiers for over two centuries now, an oh-so-valid part of Our [torrid] history so We shall Have & Hold on to what you down there beneath Us so desperately seek and enjoy the power we gain from Us making you under-whites and browns etc squirm and beg for what We obviously are the only ones fit to own, especially over you and especially, ever the niggards we remain as we machinate you into the beggarly state we enjoy incurring onto you". Mwah ha ha ha... Cultural superiority smells GREAT when One is on TOP. Not a good look. Let us hope that The British Museum pulls its head out of its arse, smells a vestige of some sort of decency and humanity, and returns what doesn't belong there. It should be left displaying BRITISH artefacts, or perhaps english ones if the other races and countries that make up the United Kingdom allow it to BORROW their cultural artefacts and artworks from them. Malàkes all of them.
Greece should rebuild the Parthenon. If Nashville can do it, so can Greece.
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Christains and Muslims destroyed much of the classical statuary just as Democats destroy memorial statuary to the Confederacy: becasue it offended them. . We live in an age of barbarism.
@@MrJm323 the bottom of the sea isn't exactly a "safe place". I think that If he really wanted to protect them, he would be a little bit more cautious about their transportation.
@@sikyr3329 They aren't at the bottom of the sea. Elgin spent his own money salvaging them; and then he sold them to the British government at a loss. Elgin is a hero. The Greek nation ought to cast a gold statue of him and place him high up on a column erected at the base of the Acropolis! ...But the Greeks are ingrates -- especially towards the British who saved them from Communist take-over in the late 1940s.
How dare they destroy the wonder?
+François Miville Correct! It was Francesco Morosini ,and Elgin who did most of the harm to the wonder!.. The five main instigators of the design and construction on the Parthenon Phidias , Ictinos Kalamis,and Callicrates.. i am sure they would curse the looters , if they were alive,for destroying the Symbol of Democracy and Classical Art.. The Parthenon played a key role in Athenian life,THEN AND NOW, as temple, artistic masterpiece and national symbol,and nobody had the right to act like this!
Even in its decline and its state of damage, the beauty overwhelms, especially in person. A testament to the artistic genius of 2,500 years ago, the Parthenon still stands as evidence of one of the best achievements of humankind.
***** How wrong you are my friend! i don't know where you are taking your information..perhaps this is the opinion from a so called modern scholar,but the truth has nothing to do,with these unspeakable pathetic remarks!..
ΔΝΜΟΚΡΑΤΙΑ = Demokratía, from δῆμος dêmos, “common people", "assembly of the people”) + κράτος kráto “rule, strength”...
Democracy in Athens was not limited to giving citizens the right to vote. Athens was not a republic, nor were the People governed by a representative body of legislators. In a very real sense, the People governed themselves, debating and voting individually on issues great and small, from matters of war and peace to the proper qualifications for ferry-boat captains (for the latter, see Aeschin. 3.157).1 The democratic government of Athens rested on three main institutions, and a few others of lesser importance. The three pillars of democracy were: the Assembly of the Demos, the Council of 500, and the People’s Court. These were supplemented by the Council of the Areopagus, the Archons, and the Generals. Actual legislation involved both the Assembly and the Council, and ad hoc boards of “Lawmakers.” This summary will describe the Assembly, the Council, and the process of legislation in the greatest detail, along with a shorter description of the Council of the Areopagus. The People’s Court will be covered briefly and then left for fuller treatment in other resources. While Generals and Archons will appear here and there in the descriptions of other institutions, they were really servants of the Demos and do not require extensive discussion in this relatively brief introduction to Athenian Democracy.A REAL DEMOCRACY!
Citizens were paid for attending the Assembly, to ensure that even the poor could afford to take time from their work to participate in their own government. Aristotle recognized that inclusion of all citizens and freedom to speak are not the only hallmarks of a democratic constitution, but that the most democratic states pay their citizens for attending the Assembly. He claims that in the absence of payment, the Council (Boule, Βουλή) is the most democratic of magistracies (Aristot. Pol. 1317b), but in states that can afford to, and do, pay their citizens for attending meetings of the Assembly, all the citizens actually take part in it and exercise their citizenship, because even the poor are enabled to be at leisure by receiving pay (Aristot. Pol. 1293a)
YOU SAID........, and in Athens it was a kind of pedophile, anal-contact-based initiation provided by a state-appointed mentor, the paiderastes, for purposes of mind-control by a secret authority (even though other forms of pedophilia and pederasty were not to be tolerated in Athens). ...........
HOW ABSURD,AND PREPOSTEROUS THING TO SAY!..
Homosexuality in ancient Greece. A big issue, cause many misunderstandings or better deliberate misinterpretations. They have written thousands of pages, has been said countless reasons, most often without the slightest true, almost always misinterpreting specific philosophical positions.
And before we begin any reference should first be clear something very basic. Current concepts of "homosexual," "gay" and "straight" does not exist for the ancient Greeks.
Precisely because the Greeks had Morality not stemmed from various strange, inhuman, messianic doctrines nor had sprung through sadistic type threats of eternal punishment, but instead had Moral innate harmony with Nature, in contrast with our present society, where ours (which) morality is essentially an If-moral or a pseudo-moral, since mainly based on pseudo-inspired dogmas, so exactly and then meanings of various words like «έρως»="love",«φίλος»= ",«ερωμένος» " "«εραστής»,"= Lover ", distorted sound today - because, I repeat, the misleading representation that has been the concept of the word ethics...THE ANCIENT GREEKS HAD LAWS,LAWS IN A SOCIETY 2500 YEARS BEFORE OURS..DIFFERENT SOCIETY.WHO YOU ARE NOT TO IMAGINE OR TO UNDERSTAND!
EXAMPLE..
"Teachers do not open schools before the sun rises and to close before sunset the sun.
Do not permitted to those who have a superior child of age to enter into schools when there are within these children, unless it is a son, brother or groom the teacher. And if someone despite that is forbidden enters the school, is punished with the punishment of death..
"The Athenian, who became the lover of a man for money, does not have the right to be elected to one of the nine archons or to take Hieratic office or be presented as counsel in public law or occupy any dominion, whether in the city, or outside its limits, either defined by lot or by election, or sent as a public crier, nor to express concurring opinion, nor to participate in public religious ceremonies, nor tp bring publicly the crown nor to be wandering within that part of the market that has been purified by aspersion. If he does not do so he is guilty and he is punished by death "
WE SHOULD LOOK IN OUR SOCIETY,WHICH IS FULL OF LESBIANS ,HOMOSEXUALS. TRANSSEXUALS,AND GAY MARRIAGES..
.IT'S BETTER TO GET THE TRUTH BEFORE WE WRITE ANYTHING! ENJOY!.
***** Do not complicate things with all these details.. Herodotus wrote, “there is, first, that most splendid of virtues, equality before the law.” It was true that Cleisthenes’ demokratia abolished the political distinctions between the Athenian aristocrats who had long monopolized the political decision-making process and the middle- and working-class people who made up the army and the navy (and whose incipient discontent was the reason Cleisthenes introduced his reforms in the first place)....ΚΛΕΙΣΘΕΝΗΣ.
gave the right to the municipality to decide on everything. That included in this all Athenians automatically made popular sovereignty a reality for the first time in Athens history in general.... Pericles,built the Parthenon as an imperishable symbol of the greatness of Athens and of the inevitable triumph of civilization over the forces of barbarism, and Dictatorship...
The Parthenon is indeed the symbol of democracy and the Greek civilization. It also symbolizes the beginning of the Western civilization and stands as the icon of European culture. HAVE A NICE DAY!
It is like most small children do they see a wonderful sandcastle build by another child admire it, become jealous at such skill or claim of the waterfront and destroy it
Now the destruction by the Venetians and British is almost similar, but more complex... The Ottomans occupied Greece and stored munitions in the Acropolis if I remember correctly? Hence the Venetians who struggled for power over the med with the Turks bombarded a munitions depot! The free federation of the Ionian Islands asked the Venetians to occupy their Islands in order to fight of the Ottoman empire which they did for 400 years, The British the later ruler of the waves also assisted and protected the Greeks during the Ottoman occupation and in WWII
‘Lord’ Elgin like most colonizing empires thought them self superior to everyone else and best to ‘preserve’ these wonderful remains of the past in their British museum before they would fall into the hands of others....Hence the BM is stuffed with trophies from all over the “Commonwealth” Empire. Recently Our national Rijksmuseum gave back the biggest trophy we kept over the English, The stern of the flagship of the Royal Navy that admiral Michiel de Ruyter Took in a spectacular raid on the British naval home harbour.......Macron suggested to return the looted bronze sculptures of Benin...It is time to grow up! But the little light on the end of the tunnel is of course the poem by Lord Byron spoken in this video, He fought alongside , admired was inspired and even made love to Greeks
@François Miville British, Venetians, ottomans.. you forgot Byzantines
Venetians were here to liberate the country, and bring it back safe to where it belonged to (Europe), after all
Με σεβασμο στο Χριστιανισμο και σε καθε θρησκεια-ιδεολογια αλλα οταν ειδα το Σταυρο στην κορυφη στο αέτωμα αηδιασα+στεναχωρεθηκα αυτο ειναι ασυγχωρητο θα αρεσε στην Χριστιανικη θρησκεια να παω να γκρεμισω ολες τις εκκλησιες και πανω τους να χτίσω δικους μου ναούς? Ντρεπομαι που ειμαι ανθρωπος ρε παιδια τι αισχη συνέβησαν και συμβαίνουν...νομίζω ούτε ο ίδιος ο Θεός θα ήταν σύμφωνος με αυτό ειλικρινά.Οσα μπραβο και να πω στους δημιουργούς του βίντεο δε θα έφταναν πραγματικα ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΟΥΜΕ.
Πολύτιμη Τιάρα !!!!
Πολύτιμη Τιάρα, με διαμάντια, ζαφείρια ,
ρουμπίνια, και σμαράγδια!!
Στα χέρια της η Βασίλισσα κρατάει,
η ματιά της με θλίψη κοιτάει!!
Το διαμάντι του πολιτισμού,
μουσείο άπειρου κάλους και θαυμασμού!!!
Τα ζαφείρια που λείπουν περιμένει,
να λάμψει η Ακρόπολη η θλιμμένη!!!
Με αγάπη και σεβασμό :Δόνα Αμαρυλλίς 13/5/2017!!!
Don't cry Greece,your glory lives for ever!!!!!!
We cry for not having the chance to get our goddamn fucking revenge on everybody, for me mostly Byzantines
@@gio-nc7og Barbarians and Venetians/Ottomans made the bigger destruction, but you focus on Byzantines... well, thats non understandable...
@@stelios5314 Byzantine Greek destroyed being Christians destroyed everything pagan
I think the entire western world should pitch in and restore the entire Parthenon to its original glory as great as possible. Right next to the original this restored version should stand with the best and closest to original materials and techniques.
I think it should be restored, still using the ruins that stand there today.
@@spirittchaser7043 Maybe, you have a point, however, I have an unpopular opinion: The British unintentionally kept these beautiful wonders in excellent condition by removing them. I think the Greek and Egyptian artifacts should be returned to their original owners and should pitch in to help rebuild the Parthenon to it's 'original' prestine 'condition'.
Not even the western world, this is a Wonder for all mankind to marvel at.
You know there's a complete replica in Georgia, USA.
The video should go on to 2000 - 2014 AD to show how the Greeks are once again restoring the Parthenon after all these barbaric disasters the temple has undergone under foreign occupation. And it should be a lesson of persistence for us Greeks as well. We really like our stuff and we will be fixing them again, and again, and again. And again. Oh, and by the way. We would really like those marbles back...
It's still a marvel to behold. But it's ashame what fanaticism can do to people's minds.They can't accept the idea that deity can express itself through art as it did here.Long live Athena.
αυτό το βίντεο δείχνει ότι αυτοί που είχαμε και έχουμε μέχρι σήμερα σύμμαχους λεηλατούσαν την Ελλάδα και θα συνεχίσουν μέχρι να φτάσουν στην αποκαθήλωση μας
Yes these are Indeed facts 💯. I work with my farther at a restaurant In New York State. He Is the current boss after his brother the original owner passed away from an heart attack three years ago last week. January 3rd, 2020. His name was Peter and I was named after my father George. And even though I'm half African American through my mother and my father George Sr, Who Is of Greek Decent, I have that toughness of a Greek that have allowed me to still be alive today by the grace of God. (And I'm single with NO KIDS 34 years young with ZERO MAJOR DEBT. Should tell you smoething👍).
Ελευθερία ή θάνατος!!!!
The so called"christians" were so STUPID to destroy such a magnificent creation. Why couldn't they just left it alone and go and build whatever they wanted somewhere else? So much beauty and history has been lost.
because they wanted to erase ancient gods whatever it may cost. Monotheist religions are shit. Look at what muslim do to the big Buddhas in Afghanistan. Same stupidity.
Instead of whining you should be thankful to the Christians if you care about the ancient monument. The Christian Roman Greeks didn’t harm the building, they merely removed the genitals of some naked statues as they converted the pagan temple into a christian basilica, because the Pagans no longer existed and all Athenians had become Christians. By making the Parthenon a church, dedicated to the Mother of Christ, renaming it as the Parthenon of the Virgin (parthenos) of Athens (Παναγία η Αθηνιώτισσα). It was during these time, when the building was a church that it had it’s greatest glory, as it was a very important pilgrimage location for two reason, because it was the symbol of the Ancient Greek civilization and wisdom and also because it was an important church of Panagia. And not only that, the Golden-ivory Statue of Virgin Athens from the Parthenon was not destroyed but instead taken to the capital, New Rome (Constantinople) to be displayed and enjoyed by the Roman Greeks there, an important part of their heritage.
and they trasnform that masterpiece in a church..pityfull
@@Nullius_in_verba
The only other outcome would have been to have the building (the Parthenon) and the rest of the Acropolis abandoned to become ruins by the exposition to the natural elements, erosion and earthquakes. That because an old polytheist ''hellenic'' temple would be completely useless in the center of a fairly a large city which Athens was in the Early Medieval Era, where the Athenian Greek populace had all willingly had converted to Christianity long ago. An abandoned temple would quickly become a ruin, while they instead they dedicate the Parthenon to another Virgin, the Theotokos Morther of Christ (Parthenon comes from Parthenos Athina, which according to the Greek Polytheism never accepted a lover). Some historians even claim that the most glorious days was then in Medieval Roman ("Byzantine") Athens, as previously it simply was a large temple on the acropolis of a city-state, and many others had similar ones (like the Acrocorith of Corinth), while in the Medieval Era not only did it have pilgrims go there to Panagia Athniniotissa (the medieval name for Parthenon) but also for the symbol that it was of Ancient Greece and Ancient Athens.
@@paulmayson3129 the problem isnt the reuse of the temple.. i think it great to breath in new life. The really big problem is the vandalism of the temple, the statues etc. That is the true sin here! Convert the temple, just dont change it
Um prédio tão lindo! Merecia ser reconstruído.
The willful destruction of such a beautiful creation is so horrid beyond words.It is almost like watching a murder right before your eyes. Why couldn't somebody have stopped this. Now the job to repair and reconstruct the Parthenon is so much harder and the work is so insufferably painstaking.
Magnifico e tristissimo...
Dopo Palmira,
serve a farci capire che siamo "tutti terribilmente uguali" :-(
Its too painful to watch
It’s like torture watching the British breaking those marbles.
....And, now, for a more sober look at the episode:
ruclips.net/video/Trxo2KYg-dM/видео.html
(BBC -- The Elgin Marbles [2004].)
It is fantasy. They didn't have to break anything. Just cut some mortar. The stuff about cutting entire stone lintels and throwing them on the ground doesn't make sense.
It is time for the British government to return the looted spoils of empire.
Why dont you go to France and tell them to pay for the rebuild because Napoleon destroyed it with his cannons?
They were not looted they were purchase legally from the ruling authorities at the time .
@@stevieg6418 Napoleon ? when ?
@Cat People documentarys ....No, YOU are an idiot. Bruce Burns is right. They were not looted; and they are safe and secure where they are now. There is no valid principle that artifacts should be stored in geographical locations from where they were taken. (There are many Greek and Roman artifacts in the USA and Germany, etc. which were removed from Italy, Greece, Asia Minor, etc.)
@@stevieg6418 ....It was actually a Venetian artillery strike in the 1600s. But, the Ottoman Turks were using the Parthenon as a powder magazine.
Wow! This was emotional! The British Museum, the Louvre, the National Museum in Copenhagen, the Vatican Museums in Rome, and the Museum of Fine Arts in Vienna all MUST return these stolen artefacts to where they belong, and if they desperately want to keep their museums in business, they can make replicas for display. But ignoring the thievery that happened is them acknowledging they are thieves to date!
THE MARLBERS OF PARTHENON BELONGS TO GREECEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
greeeeeeeeeeeee ;)
Does anyone else find this physically painful to watch
Who were the brutes that bombed the Parthenon? Why did they do it?
They did not have any rights to destroy such a beautiful building. Shame for our Human History!!!
Galeria do cp2?
The scuptures are in the British Museum. Perhaps they can be reproduced?
I think they´ll do. There was conversation relatively recently about the restauration process, they wont rebuild it completely up and even repaint it ( what would be epic though) but if i remember correctly they will restore it something back to the stadium it was before the bombardement when it was unfortunately "used" by the turks as a gunpowder magazine, so the whole thing blew up. I would love to see it one day in its original beauty or something close relatet.
Wow, spent WAY too much time on Lord Elgin's theft. I would say the Venetian bombing did the most damage, though!
when did the mosque apear?
Very interesting video
Thanks 🙏
At 3:12 they are removing the sculptures because if it gets old and the people go in they
will hurt their heads so that;s why they are doing this.It's important
the speech in the 5th min is so epic!!! who was sayin it??
It’s the Goddess Athena calling down a curse on Elgin for plundering her Temple.
what poem was that ?
Is this from AC Odyssey?
i am a greek i love athena i belived in her
Also don't worry about the Parthenon because some greek people are going to rebuild it
and it's going to be the same again.It's easy for me to draw a Parthenon but it takes about
8 or 9 years to rebuild the Parthenon.2019-2027.
Who told you that they are going to rebuild it? No that won't happen...
@@stelios5314 ...They've already done it.
It's in, I think, Memphis in Tennessee, USA. (I think they did that one about a hundred years ago.)
@@MrJm323 Well, that's not the original Parthenon though, it's a replica. I guessed the comment above was implying the full restoration of the original one (which is unfeasible)
did you just steal this from CostaGavras1?
Napadla mě myšlenka studovat v Řecku, ale musím se zeptat snoubenky.
Oh.. Frate esci il video non riesco a vederlo rimetti il video mi serve urgentemente
the marbles of greece belongs to GREECE
98ι
They belong to the true heirs of the Hellenic legacy.
The Rhomaions (Christian Byzantine Greeks) forsook that legacy when, in addition to this 01:37 , they renounced the very name "Hellene" as a self-description.
Lord Elgin had far greater claim to being an heir to this legacy (thanks to the Renaissance and the neo-classically focused Enlightenment) than just about any Greek at the time.
Culture is NOT a racial/ethnic inheritance.
Poor Parthenon its had a rough time. I dont suopose theres any benefactor who can rebuild it like Notre Dame.
Why did the government allow the Parthenon to be destroyed in modern times?
what the Christians did to the wonder????????
The Hellenic flame will never die ,no one can destroy the idea freedom, love of philosophy and democracy seeking the light of the truth in what ever direction.bless all good man who seek truth and freedom of all nations.of our world.and respect human right.after all isit not that what every one wants?.
We have the wonderwoman, and we have wonderbuilding, but... where is the wonderman?
There would be no take-out coffee cups without this icon.
9 years to build ,30 years to re-build and here’s still work to do go figure
Son tan piratas estos ingleses
EXCELENTE!!!
You have to give credit to the British as they were the first people to actually think about preserving the ancient construction and getting it out of the weather and the open where anybody could destroy the ancient sculptures and carvings , one only has to look at the weathering of the marbles to see that they were 1000 years to late .
Witch country are you from
Shawn Kelly Guess ???
@@shawnkelly1748 ...I agree with Bruce Burns, and I'm from the United States of America.
The British stole them! They belong to the Parthenon
@@nasosgreece45 No they paid for them to the ruling authorities at the time bright boy , read history, don't make it up
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Bring them back!!!!
British museum..you are responsible. Now it's your turn to do the right move.
I m proud to be Greek 🇬🇷💖
Man vanity build it and man vanity demolished it. A wander to pause and awe.
It's more horrific to watch than any Hollywood horror I've seen recently.
Lo que en el video no cuenta es que los turcos usaban el Partenón de polvorín
Great movie and all the TRUE! :(
Yeah its high time the marbles were returned. Let's face it, when England took them it did so for no other real reason than "it could". It was rich, and powerful, and could go into a country and take what it liked. But imagine if it'd been, I dunno..the USA walking into southern England, taking a liking to Stonehenge, dismantling it, shipping it all to the plains of Kansas and re erecting it there. Because "it could." ;)
If the Americans develop a deeper appreciation of Stonehenge than a future Britain which has lost touch with its history (and is under the control of a culture which could physically threaten Stonehenge), ...then they should "walk in" and take it!!
Culture is not the rightful inheritance of a people based on race and ethnicity -- but rather on cultural affinity and able scholarship.
(And, in any event, neither the Anglo-Saxons nor the Celts are the ethnic descendants of those who constructed Stonehenge.)
Built on a ancient tree stump 🛐
Very nice.Let people realize how darkness prevaled.
Los ingleses deberían devolver a Grecia todo lo robado. A estas alturas de la historia no es razonable que Reino Unido no cumpla con su obligación
πολύ όμορφο
This video makes me really sad and angry
removes nooooooo... steal the sculptures
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Great now make a video on how the Italians pretty much destroyed the Colosseum and ancient Rome.
Only Italians? Naive.
Parthenon: Exist
Venice and Britain: I'm gonna end this mans whole carrier
Explore Golgumbaz
This beautiful hystorical building was and is raped from the religions and people :(
ειναι πολυ τελειο
Ένα ταξίδι στο χρόνο...Η ιστορία της Ακρόπολης μέσα σε λίγα λεπτά.. facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=817298391671848&id=710260479042307¬if_t=like
Λείπει η μετάφραση απ'την κατάρα της Αθηνάς!
ΑΙΩΝΙΑ ΚΑΤΑΡΑΜΕΝΟΣ!
Just so to understand the wrong interpretations that this video shows, it says that in 438 AD the Christians destroy the nude sculptures. And all the nude sculptures that exist in the New Acropolis and the British Museums??..... :)
They were all discovered later after excavations. No full statue survives
@@angrybirdo Travellers' sketches from the 17th and 18th centuries show many in situ. Also many slabs from the metopes and the frieze were up there. The ones discovered in the excavation were blown by the explosion of 1687 AD.
Στυλιανός Νομικός Only the statue of Dionysus was in situ and its genitals had been cut off
It is obvious that you are not aware of the original sources that describe the monument from the 17th-18th c. Also of the fact that the relief slabs were removed from the monument,where they had been standing for centuries. If the christians wanted to destroy them, they had all the centuries they wanted to eliminate everything. We have to look other reasons and factors that lead to the destructions. And the european travelers give many indications. The "438 AD destructions of the christians" is such a simplification, taking away the blame from those that really acted barbarically over the centuries, especially the recent ones.
Στυλιανός Νομικός Nobody said that Christians did all the damage. Claiming that they did no damage like you do is historical revisionism and completely false.
i hope because the murbles of parthenos belonge to greece
The British Museum and Le Musée du Louvre two of many examples of this outdated mode d'emploi: A den of iniquity, a den of thieves and a last fading bastion of empirical colonisation along with all of the subjugation and denigration of indigenous cultures and peoples that went with all of that. The cultures affected and pillaged off of now have to make do with cruddy plaster copies in the actual places where the descendants of the creators of these oeuvres still inhabit and where their cultural property and heritage should actually still be. They are also reduced to asking, on bended knee and with humility to please may we BORROW our own cultural and historical output which is haughtily and snobbily rejected, even when they have specifically built a world-class museum to house their own cultural treasures in a better safer, more logically displayed situation and place NEAR to where these cultural artefacts actually always belonged. "Only the whitest of the whites may decide and have power over who may have any right to what has become, given that what We have looted from you or your occupiers for over two centuries now, an oh-so-valid part of Our [torrid] history so We shall Have & Hold on to what you down there beneath Us so desperately seek and enjoy the power we gain from Us making you under-whites and browns etc squirm and beg for what We obviously are the only ones fit to own, especially over you and especially, ever the niggards we remain as we machinate you into the beggarly state we enjoy incurring onto you". Mwah ha ha ha... Cultural superiority smells GREAT when One is on TOP.
Not a good look. Let us hope that The British Museum pulls its head out of its arse, smells a vestige of some sort of decency and humanity, and returns what doesn't belong there. It should be left displaying BRITISH artefacts, or perhaps english ones if the other races and countries that make up the United Kingdom allow it to BORROW their cultural artefacts and artworks from them. Malàkes all of them.
Ah, Shut up!!!
Regresen todos las esculturas a los Griegos! Quienes se las hayan robado
*NUUUU! WhY dID ThEy DeSTroY ThE nUdE SCulPtuReS!? NoT tHE NuDEs!*
Karat good
parthenon
Christians,Venetians and British are a very bad combination !
😢
Autochthonus illyrians Arvanitas.
Greece should rebuild the Parthenon. If Nashville can do it, so can Greece.
Christains and Muslims destroyed much of the classical statuary just as Democats destroy memorial statuary to the Confederacy: becasue it offended them. . We live in an age of barbarism.
when humanity will understand than religions detroy everything on earth.....
The eternal British colonialism! it is time to take it back again!
SHAME TO ALL THE DESTROYERS OF THE PARTHENON...
what a shameless piece of propaganda! you guys put mossulni to shame
who allowed the "stealing " in 1802 ? mmmm the geeks DID !
Ottomans ruled Greece until 1821 you potato head. Greece couldn't do anything
@@Jimevge : "Greece couldn't do anything."
Thanks, mullet head, for explaining why Lord Elgin was right to take them and deposit them in a safe place.
@@MrJm323 then Uk should return them now
@@MrJm323 the bottom of the sea isn't exactly a "safe place". I think that If he really wanted to protect them, he would be a little bit more cautious about their transportation.
@@sikyr3329 They aren't at the bottom of the sea. Elgin spent his own money salvaging them; and then he sold them to the British government at a loss.
Elgin is a hero. The Greek nation ought to cast a gold statue of him and place him high up on a column erected at the base of the Acropolis!
...But the Greeks are ingrates -- especially towards the British who saved them from Communist take-over in the late 1940s.
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