When is Cornbrook 3 out. Gasworks and Coronation street has changed a bit
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- In this video we visit the Rochdale road Gasworks and the site of the old Coronation street set. The Rochdale road Gasworks is being demolished making way for 'Progress' in Manchester. So we have an update on the site. We have been out filming Cornbrook 3 so we have an update on that for you. Plus we visited the National Mining museum. So basically this video is an update on the industrial and historical explorations we have done recently. We also take a look at the new Factory International
This sort of historical vandalism is why i am so grateful to you and those that tread with you for documenting these special places
Sometimes we are frowned upon but no one else was documenting those Gasworks and thank you
@@MartinZero You can't save everything, some things need to change, but everything CAN be documented before it goes.
@@RegebroRepairs Indeed. You'll never have a history if you don't build it in the first place. Cities are the ever changing fabric of human civilisation, they change as we do. We should preserve some things, we should absolutely document them. I think we've become pretty good at respectfully preserving our past in the last 30 years or so with new developments. Not universally, but far better than in the 60's and 70's for example where we just bulldozed everything and replaced things with concrete, lifeless blocks. Though those things are also part of our history and someone will see those as worth preserving at some point in the future long after they've served their usefulness.
Superb filming and commentaries as per usual Martin.
If I got a wish I would have Manchester University make you a professor of History in Manchester.
Keep safe warm dry and virus free Martin.
Thanks very much for your time and efforts to produce your volgs for us to enjoy.
Cheers
Always fascinating Martin
Crying shame that history is being erased before our eyes, relegated to old photographs and video footage.
Without people like you and your peers, Martin these places would be forgotten .
Thanks mate
God bless 🙏
Great update, without people like you we would lose so much history recorded for posterity. Coal mining museum looks great, I was a Somerset copper in 1984 and went up to Nottingham several times and went down for tours on a couple of working pits. Fascinating. Met many miners and their families both working and striking, most of us thought they got a shitty deal all round and on the whole they were very nice people to meet except when they were chucking rocks at us, but hey, who can blame them!
Interesting. Well worth a visit to the museum
The underground tour at the National Mining Museum is amazing. Highly recommended
A little token of appreciation for your great videos! I live on Vancouver Island in Canada and have never been to Manchester, but my dad and his family lived and still live around the Chester area.(My Dad came to Canada in 1920.) I love the north of England and have enjoyed all your explorations with your buddies. Keep up the great work!
Hello Gwen. Good to hear you have connections in the North. Thanks so much for the gift, very much appreciated. That will keep James in Cakes for a month 😃👍🏻
I used to park in the car park below Salford Station. Behind it were some industrial buildings/warehouses. There was a big sign on one of them saying something like "Manchester Chroming". I had a classic car and needed the bumpers re-chromed so I went in to ask about it being done. To my surprise it looked more like a canteen inside. A man dressed in uniform came up and asked what I wanted. I explained about the car bumpers and he looked bemused. I said there was a sign outside saying Manchester Chroming. "Ah yes" he said. "This is actually Granada Studios and we didn't want the public coming in so we put up that sign to mislead people. We reckoned it was the least likely thing that anyone would want but you have just proved us wrong!" I should have asked for a tour but actually just left in embarrassment!
Got my coffee and crisps ready to watch **Jaques Costeau** of the sewers I.e. Martin Zero ...
I now know more about gas works and how they worked than I did before watching your videos. There were gas works in Peterborough and I think the storage facilities are still there. I used to bike about 3 miles to bring coke home for a Beeston heater. We would lay the sacks of coke across the bike's crossbar and push them home including a drag of a hill. Kids these days have no idea of what it was like 70 years ago but they would learn from watching your videos.
Nothing gets in the way of greed, I mean redevelopment.
Thats like lechwedd slate mine in wales, very good
Great updates Martin, thanks, really appreciate all the work you put into these videos 👍
Thank you Barbara
7:00 They might call it Sulphur City Gardens.
Surely you can't build this in London Docklands the Coal Tips were made to be Alps !!!
Excellent stuff! A real shame about those gasworks - I hope your great video about them, will be of use to interested people in the future.
That new Factory place; has it any connection with Tony Wilson and Alan Erasmus' record label? In your covert footage, I noticed, on a pillar, red warning markings, very similar to ones that adorned FAC 51, back in the day. The outside of the venue reminds me of those disturbingly oddly angled buildings in the 1919 movie 'The Cabinet Of Doctor Caligari'.
Sad to see Coronation Street is no more - I'm not a fan of the show, but I do remember being fascinated by it as a kid - coming from Suffolk, I never encountered people who spoke and acted the way the folk in Coronation Street did. They were so different from the people in my small world as a kid, I thought they were wonderful. However, as time went by, the people in it who could actually act, and suspend your disbelief, either died off or left. I stopped watching after Bernard Youens (Stan Ogden) died. Possibly because the scene with Jean Alexander (Hilda Ogden) breaking down after returning home after Stan had died in hospital, was just all too real.
Looking forwards to the National Mining Museum ( Caphouse Colliery) video. I hope you take notice of the 18" hight of the Trapanner coal cutting machine, this qas the first cutter i opperated when i was a mere 19 years old , back in 1979. Crawling along ,knocking th3 f out of my knees and hoping that the snaker kept the chocks in a straight line and the cable man didnt let the loop of the cable fall over a lock out button or a gap in the pan sides. Now i realise ive just come out with a lot of stuff you don't understand, but any other face worker watching will instantly understand what I'm talking about.👍🏴
The ordsall cord was a waste of money because they didnt put in the extra platforms. One train in and one out again. And this isnt the only track that even now is one train in and one train out. That line was built in the 1800's and has never been invested in but shareholders have had a field day financially. None of manchester is owned by this country either thats why it is being built on like it is as its not this country doing it.
Absolutely amazing Martin. The walk where the old coronation street set was, used to be called Grape Street. Before it was demolished and used for a set, my great grandparents owned a Boarding House there. No 4 Grape Street and also another house further down the street. A street that has disappeared like so many others. Really enjoy your videos, love local history even tho I now live in South Devon.
I walk past the old gasworks almost every day, and it's mad how quickly you forget what something looked like once its gone! You can see right through to the steep road of Lord Street now. It's so strange!
It looks like Alien3 in the chamber footage!
Because of my love for you and what you do I’ve been doing a bit of walking in a little beck we found in cottingham, found some old pottery that I’ve had dated to as early as 1830 😊
Martin, it seems that red bricks are a dime a dozen and are probably used for landfill. But are the "Dressed Stones" recycled/repurposed? A good dressed stone has a lot of labor involved.
It's interesting how recent in history the desire to preserve old buildings and structures actually is. Less than a century and a half when civilization goes back twelve thousand years, the rest of the time buildings were razed to the ground, built anew and materials reused constantly.
Take your kids down the mine and leave them them there. Anything for a bit of peace and quiet.
i always enjoy martin zero videos. i do excuse your narkiness at 7:58. i grew up in an area of high density housing and saw the social problems. possibly computers and gaming might give kids more entertainment to distract them from bloody nuisance behaviour in these modern times. but i dont think so. when will the authorities ever learn? future developments might include "a 4 foot restriction on humanoid height. so they can fit twice as many in the same buillding site. they say its alright." an extract from genesis - foxtrot.
Down the road from me, there used to be an abandoned victorian farm building, but in recent years the farm is long gone and now a modern housing estate occupies the land. I really do hate these construction companies who decided to obliterate history. >:(
Sad to see it go but at least it is documented. Great as usual and the history is amazing.🙏😊👍😁
Glad to see you got across the footbridge at last! I was there a couple of weeks ago. Since I found your channel, I've been inspired to explore the city a bit more, I've walked over that bridge, around Castlefield, saw the Giants Basin, the tunnel from the Bridgewater Hall that used to be the canal... In fact, I was volunteering at a Repair Cafe event at the Gt Northern Warehouse the other day, and telling my friends there about exploring inspired by your videos. A couple of them said "Oh, I think I've seen some of those videos..." And then, while I was fixing a jacket for a lady, she was saying she lived just off Deansgate, and had explored quite a bit. She said "There's this guy does videos on RUclips...." and I said "Martin Zero!" and we had a good chat about stuff we'd been to see.
Anyway, I'm trying to catch up on your videos from the start. I'm still 4 years behind! Thank you for so much interesting content.
Also, if you haven't been, the Lancashire Mining Museum at Astley Green is a nice little museum. No underground tour, but they still have the pit head gear, and the winding engines, which are run at certain times. There are loads of old locos and machinery sitting around, a little railway that runs sometimes, and a tearoom. It's free entry, and run by very enthusiastic volunteers. Limited opening times, check their Facebook for up to date info. They run a great Steam Rally every May.
facebook.com/pages/Lancashire-Mining-Museum/360225574116064
Heyas Martin, James & crew. I seem to remember that Muriel on the Coronation St set was ment to be the mysterious Rosamund Street, often mentioned but very rarely seen. Indeed there was a (steam train?) accident on the bridge and Ena Sharples and Lucille Hewitt were the main characters involved in that story line. I seem to remember the Glad Tidings Hall, Ena's fictional home as caretaker was ruined in the smash as she was rehomed afterwards. Im sure there are better informed fans than my memory serves me 🧐😎 Cheers DougT
Well remembered mate!
@@royfearn4345 hi Roy, thanks, honest I'm not a Cstreet anorak it's just I used to watch when the plot lines were believable 😎. The modern metro tram smash was just a re-creation of that plot. Nowadays it's very, very rare I watch CS or East Ender's never mind the Emmerdale 😯😎 Cheers DougT
Have you gone to Rochdale yet and see the full lane of wooden sets on fleece st pal
Martin great vlog; can’t imagine the hours taken by you and the team do this and the next videos; a big thanks from down south. ‘That’s on the gas burner’ to come.. great catch phrase hope you add it to your style 👍 😎
Love these catch up videos, a few bricks in that gas works 🤯🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱👍🏼
I remember watching a Corrie episode where there was an accident on the railway viaduct, on a small black& white screen, could well be over 50 years ago. Guess Ken Barlow is the only one left.
Absolutely brilliant, again!!!!
Fantastic video as all easy to get toooooooo x.
Great video as always Martin. If someone was visiting Manchester for just one day, what 2 or 3 little historical things would you recommend someone go see?
I get rather confused about the timing of videos on Utube. When did you make your last film Martin? Please can you explain? It would, from my point of view be more informative if an actual date was included.
Hi Sarah, I usually put them out on a Sunday evening, this week I was a little delayed. If you go to my channel main page there is a tab that says 'Videos' if you click on that it will show the videos in order going from latest to earliest. They dont have a recording date on but will say 3 weeks ago, 2 months ago etc. Also there is a bell symbol on the main page. Ensure this is activated as it will inform you when I release a video. Finally if you look at the Playlists tab this groups similar videos together or series such as Medlock and Cornbrook. Hope that helps. Regards
They might call the flats The Gasworks - just round the corner on ludgate hill the flats there are called The Tobacco Factory in homage to the buildings former use.
Thats true, maybe then
Great update Martin. Is that bumblebee t-shirt related to River Medlock sign? Where can we get one. Do you have any merch?
The Bee T shirt is from the Manchester shop on Oldham Street
The mining museum is a great day out. Well worth the visit. Love you videos. I just wish someone do some across the pennines in Sheffield.
Have a word with Marcus
Why do we neglect the past Gone forever it's crazy.
Loving an update down Manchester way. Those stables for the old station were incredible. I didn't realise that the area where the Coronation St set was ,was still there. Interesting, but like you Martin haven't watched it for many years , it has no relevance to me or the Manchester I used to know now.
Hasn't the name changed from Factory International to something else ?? It doesn't seem to have any identity and i think many Mancunians would wonder what exactly it's for 🤔
The Collyhurst area will be changing very soon Martin so if there's any updates to be done best do them soon. The Northern Gateway I believe.
Thanks for all you do Martin.
I'm from Romania and I feel like I know a lot more about Manchester than my own country 😊I love these vids and appreciate the effort and research going into them.
Thank you and regards to you watching in Romania 👍
Hello, id like to know what song is playing in the intro and outro :) Great video!
Its a Piece of music my mate did for me. I use it for the Cornbrook.
Brilliant video Martin, yes, will always be G-Mex
Cheers thank you
enjoy these chats , going back i loved the informal nostalgic walk back into your youth,you did a while back. i went to school in Stockport and would love to know what happened to say "Adswood brickworks " ect. recently visited my old workplace in Edgerley ( steam shed 9b ) to find a housing estate. the roads around Buxton road all changed from the 60s and found it difficult to get my bearings . so i appreciate your task is not always easy and i thank you for the memories you invoke.
I'm still angry they cut the MOSI off from the main line.
Yeah an absolute travesty they shoudl have done some kind of work around so you could get engines and rolling stock on and off the site. Also the run they have now is way too short if they are using it at all!
Yeah that was a shame
So glad you got to film the gasworks before they destroyed it. I get that, there's probably no practical use for it, but breaks my heart to see all that hardwork and engineering lost forever.
Famous at last :D
I was watching the BE AMAZED channel and you appeared on "Strangest Trap Doors Ever Found" ;)
I'd imagine that if the gasworks land is still contaminated and the new apartments see any issues from that, I'm sure there will be lawsuits.
Sniff that sulphur 👍
Here in Sydney Australia there was an old gasworks where the land was supposedly remediated. The local council then allowed a developer to build townhouses with underground parking. A few years after, the residents started to notice strong odours in the carpark and the groundwater seepage in the drains was black. I was working at the government laboratories at that time. We received a number of groundwater samples from the site and all of them were heavily contaminated with hydrocarbons, heavy metals and sulphur compounds. Going by what I am seeing in Martin's videos, lawsuits from future occupants of the apartments is inevitable.
I think the majority of us haven’t watch corrie since the 90s 😂 great video as always Martin 👍🏻
Has Hilda left ?
@@MartinZero 😂 Hilda & Stan back when it was proper haha
Historical vandalism is unfortunately only too true 😢
Its a shame but I suppose the Gasworks were an eyesore
Gmex.... Manchester Central Station. 😅
Am I showing my age??
Warhol
I don't mind if you edited me out of the video 😂😂
No you'll be in it
Another heads up for the national coal mining museum... fantastic museum.
WHAT! They have pulled down Granada studios! I remember go there on a school trip
You'll never find those unicorns with the golden vaginas procrastinating over the Corn Brook, Martin.
Give my love to Ollie. 😉👍
One does so hope the nouveau-riche inhabitants of the apartments to be built on the old gasworks' contaminated ground will enjoy their luxury, doesn't one? Of course. Ah, capitalism...!
I could be (wrong Martin, but I could be right) isn't that ena sharples at 1minute 36 seconds in ? Only joking.
It's a crying shame that all old history is buried in the name of supposed development. I think the world is so messed up now.
Seeing all the brick work in these videos just beggars belief. How many bricks have been made?? Currently, 1.3 trillion are produced every year. Where were all the bricks produced for all these fabulous structures you show us in your videos?
If you want harrowing mining stories just listen to 'The Testimony of [17-year-old] Patience Kershaw' interpreted by the Unthanks. Slavery was bad, evil obviously, but I'm not sure that working in the mines was very much better.
We also had a LOT of
Polychronated BiPhenol
PCB
I remember seeing a dozen tanker cars of Meryl Cloride
And another dozen tankers of Phenol
Every day going to G. E.
Do you know when Wet Earth Colliery will be completed? Really looking forward to seeing it.
1m 37s into the video I am convinced that lady standing on the balcony overlooking the street was Elsie Tanner out of Coronation Street. Am I correct in my assumption?
Hi Martin, great update video, always enjoy a visit to the HQ!!
Looking forward to Cornbrook 3, the second of series is one of my favourites. I too haven't watched Corrie for about 30 years, I did come across a spoof called buggernation street though.
I think James must have looked to the sky and found an elephant's eye looking at him from a bubblegum tree but all that he knew was the hole in his welly was letting in water😅😅
At long last that bridge is open roll on the Stephenson statue (I hope).
Have a great week
Thanks for the update Martin. Keep up the hard work cobber. Looking forward to Cornbrook 3 and all the rest upcoming. Cheers mate.
Thank you
Really enjoyed that thanks. Shame when history goes, worse when it is toxic. Thanks for share. Please take care
That was a great plug for the national mining museum, I'm already planning a weekend visit to go there, ta for that and another informative post, oh love the Halifax brick at the gas works, you took that home didn't you so I can collect it from you,😂
Sad to see the heavy labour of Craftsmen, labourers and women demolished at the gasworks so easily, well done for recording.
We have done the National Coal Mining museum and underground tour, really interesting and well worth it. Staff were mostly ex workers from the pit when we visited.
A crime that is is a museum and not still a working pit.
Excellent again - cornbrook 4&5 hmm ? I remember the cornbrook running free at the top of Chapman street near to Cornwall street and ran parallel to the railway. I also worked at the museum of science & Industry (workshop was based at Gaythorn gas works) as an apprentice & watched them filming coronation street from the top floor (shown in your video across from where the real rovers used to be) keep up the excellent work.
Am the guy who messaged you and thought it was the gore brook originally.
Ahh hello, thats interesting about Coronation st
Yer, as an apprentice I installed the 1830 Haydock beam engine in the power house (1981) - they were still developing the mill on the other side of the little railway there and you could get to the loading bay of the top floor and watch any street filming (I watched Mike baldwins jag from above)
I remember when the cornbrook ran open near railway street and would be interested to know when it was actually culverted (am guessing in the 70s)
Love your channel - I remember so many areas that you point out (am 58) brilliant stuff pal.
A few years ago I was coach driving driving into Manchester with a school on we passed the sign for some of the apartments there.A teacher commented "Oh Angel meadow how nice that sounds." I looked at her and she must of seen a frown on my face as she quizzed me as to why .I proceeded to give her a potted history of the area including St Michaels field. It didn't sound so appetizing after that. I had done a couple guided tour around on a coach .It does help my father coming from New Cross and mum from Colliery st Bradford.
Well if you are looking for something interesting.. Finish off the Bolton-Bury Canal.. Darcy Lever has some fascinating stuff.. a lovely old road bridge and then the site of an aqueduct.. and at the end of Higher Darcy St the ghostly remains of the lock basins and a railway station.... Then you can follow the towpath stones all the way to almost Bolton town center. (avoid the dystopian nuclear wasteland that has become.. very sad)
I wandered around there about 33 years ago, I saw Bet Lynn getting out of a Rolls Royce, Mike Baldwin, Johnny Briggs and a couple of others, there was some tram tracks near the Rovers Return
Martin the old bank at mumps is currently accessible again if you fancy a mooch, I went in yesterday some developers bought it filled a couple of skips but seem to have abandoned it I think they or the council are hoping kids get in & burn it down as it's grade 2 listed. Well worth a visit the old vaults still in there & safes plus a massive diesel tank for an old generator. Lots of fantastic marble & wooden features old fire places ect. I also believe there is bricked up tunnel which used to lead to the old bus depot apparently they used to send the money straight into the bank. I would love to see a quality video & some more info on it's history by you & your team. Anyway looking forward to your upcoming videos 👍🏻
Have you been over to the site of Manchester Racecourse near to Salford Crescent railway station and explored the loop on the River . Not much in the way of history bar it's closure story. Can you expand on this?
Wow, gutted about the Gasworks. I should of gotten off my arse to visit that place 😢 Yeah, more apartments hey, just what we need
And the final Medlock video?
5 4 3 2 👍
Great video Martin. I used to know someone who worked in the sets department at Granada and he gave me a private tour one afternoon. Think the bonded warehouse was the set for Sherlock Holmes and I got a sneaky peak at the old Coronation Street set. How it has changed!
Back in the 80's an uncle's neighbour worked on the Granada sets, me and my wife were visiting one day and whilst discussing various things I mentioned I needed to buy some plywood to make a rabbit hutch. So he says I got some plywood you can have and produced the old weather map which was used on Granada Reports, when they used magnetic clouds and things. So it became part of the rabbits hutch minus the steel plate on the back of it.
Amazingly the rabbit became very good at forecasting the weather 😄😄
OMG Martin feel like I've been waiting on the Cornbrook for ever 😄 can't wait for it👍
When are you going back to the interesting videos, the weekly ones? As I find those more interesting than these. PS. Where is James???😢
Nothing beats getting out in the field , 🙌🏼🐻
Too right
Another fab video 📹 Martin, cheers mate. More please
Another great video mate, shame our heritage is being erased. Any chance of you and James doing another eating video, like the Korean one you did, very entertaining mate.
As my father and uncles all worked down the pits in stoke on trent when i was a kid i always had a intrest in pits and railways, the last pit closed in 1998 Kents Lane silverdale . in Apedale in Newcastle Staffordshire , there is or was not sure at this time as its been a few years since I been a drift coal mine and a ex miner as a guide . It wasn't a lot of money either. A bit of a museum and a steam train , if you are passing well worth a look
Did you see the mine water treatment scheme when you were at Caphouse? It is up near the Hope shaft and helps keep the mine dry.
Martin and his lads are doing something unique - and doing it in a way that is superb (research, historic context, respectful stie visits, terrific editing and video production). Why hasn't BBC signed these lads for a series?
Excellent update. Great information.
What about a bit of Lower Moseley street bus station was quite a busy area back in the day, Martin
For some reason the Granada video came in to my mind recently… wasn’t there some talk about about getting in the basement to see some ancient culvert or brook?
Has Urbis still got the TV studio? Mining Museum underground tour is very interesting. Used to be free but £5 isn't a lot.
Martin, did you ever complete the wet earth collieries series?
Great update. Next time you’re in the area of Granada studios, would love to know if anything’s changed around the Manchester Salford junction canal. It would also give you the opportunity to lay a wreath in memory of the lost drone. 😂
All things must and will change. Even we change on a daily basis. Does anyone here look like they did on the day they were born? But lots of us have photos of ourselves as babies, and that's why it's so important that you do what you do Martin. We can't preserve all of our old architecture and utility buildings. But you're giving us high quality records for the future of the memorable features of our past. (Shouldn't that Coronation Street set wall have had a muriel, not a mural?) 🤣 Fans of the late Jean Alexander, (Hilda Ogden), will know what I mean.
I thought that too! 😊
@@perrystalsis55 Ah the good old days when Coronation Street was warm and funny! 😊👍
@@missmerrily4830 and not depressing! 😊
Have you ever visited the Portland basin museum it’s really good
Missed James! Otherwise interesting Martin. Cheers
Mural? or Murial? . . . ;)
Muriels Mural
More apartments... for the rich. 🙄
Urbis was good when it opened up before it became a football museum its had loads of new things to see there
did i not hear a few weeks ago video every week from now on or the likes what happend
I haven’t watched Coronation Street since the early 1970’s. But I love the characters. Very cool to see part of the set!