CANON R5C INITIAL THOUGHTS (From A Sony User)
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Hey everyone! I'm a Sony user and I just got my hands on the new Canon R5C. Here are my initial thoughts after playing around with it for a bit. Hope you enjoy!
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I got my R5c coming friday. Have an R5 now. Rented a A7s3. Sony has better Dynamic range. That's the biggest thing i miss about the sony. Everyone knows the A7s3 has better lowlight. But what noone talks about is that the R5 ISO looks better at 3200 & 6400 than the A7s3 and i never go over iso 6400 on any camera. Noone shoots at 25,000 iso.
So far I’ve noticed Sony is light years ahead in low light (no surprise), and it’s better autofocus. But yes, the second base iso at 3200 is better looking than the second base iso of 12800 in a Sony.
@@RyanWebber i mean 6400 iso vs 6400 iso. Please compare those.
R5C is incredibile in low light performance for a 45 MP sensor! Try to shot 8K RAW and than set Canon log 2 in Da Vinci; you can appreciate better dynamic range than canon log3, even if you can’t set canon log 2 in camera before recording.
Great video!
Man this video colors look crisp!!!
Great video. I saw in another video that turning off sensor cleaning shortens the time between changing between photo/video modes.
That’s what someone else mentioned. I’ll have to give it a try.
Great review!
I appreciate it!
Just turn off sensor cleaning and it will shorten the time greatly when switching between video and photo.
Didn't know that...good tip
Thank you for the tip… what bot battery life having and tip here? How do you use external batteries? 🙏🏾
there is an xlr unit for the r5C and all other canon with multi interface shue, the tascam xlr ca-xlr2-d whuch is not that much pricier than the sony xlr-k3m ( the same as the fx3 but not with the handle thingy )
... It just doesn't come with the camer but with same options, 24bit audio 4 channels, phantom power, 2 xlr and a jack etc
You gonna love the 28-70 man. It’s a hell of a lens quality off the charts.
I have a buddy down the road that does wedding photography and told me he doesn’t take it off his camera. I can’t wait for it to come in!
@@RyanWebber same here I got it 4 weeks ago I’ve done 4 weddings stayed on my R5. It took me 2 months to find it lol. But it was worth the wait lol. You will love it.
@@RyanWebber 28-70/2 looks awesome, I am really thinking about 28-70 +R5C combo, but 1)what about weight,seems to me heavy to f.e. do wedding or just something longer time?:-(2.with R5C , this lens has no IS, so do you think electronic stab. in R5C could be enough for 4K video?!3.what do you think about details in 4K video R5C vs FX3/FX6?THanks a lot for your opinion!
Lighting and color of your set and the video is Mui Bueno!
Thanks bro
R5C for XLr needs Tascam CA-XLR2d-C to install on the hot shoe. R5c dont have IS built in so lens only have IS , ND filters are with Ef to Rf drop in ND - only EF lenses
I have an R5c and 2 C70's. Really happy. The battery life on the R5c is a bit rough. Funny how the table and mic bounced around when those big mitts just lightly touched the table. Nice work.
battery life is the main reason i dont think i want to get it.
The battery life is really rough, but a USBC power bank is a good solution. It just makes it a bulkier setup. Can't complain with the image quality though!
Please test iso 1600, 3200 & 6400 on the R5c vs Fx3.
This shot here is clean
Appreciate it!
In photo mode can you shoot in similar crops modes to the video mode?
FX3 Vs R5C- Please !!!
The video will be fantastic
I hope you make this video as soon as possible
I am proud to subscribe to your channel and look forward to your next videos
It's coming very soon! I have it on the agenda for next week!
Good video bro. Waiting on my R5C to get here! You should look into getting the Angelbird cf type b card it’s a 512gb for 179. And canon has a tascam xlr adapter that goes straight onto the camera that would solve the audio problem.
Thanks! Had no idea about the Tascam so I’ll have to check it out. I got lucky by just calling a local camera shop out of the blue and they had one in stock…wasn’t even looking at getting one now I love it
@@RyanWebber Man your lucky lol. I called a few camera stores but none in stock. I also have one on preorder at adorama and one at a camera store. The adapter called Tascam CA-XLR2d-C XLR Microphone Adapter Kit for Canon Cameras. Keep the content coming bro!
@@iamvelour I appreciate ya. Checking it out now.
Nice video! For the 8k 50p you'll be needing external power via usb-c. Something like a 45w PD powerbank. Cheers!
@@vitorquental3628 good to know as well. I obviously haven’t done a ton of research, just kind of grabbed it and started shooting.
Has anyone else shot hybrid sports with this? What do you think of lack of IBIS? Can't believe my R5 overheated this summer several times when shooting 4k midday.
Nice review, FYI it's CFEXPRESS Type B cards and would've recommended RF 24-70 2.8 because it has IS
I've had the RF 24-70 f2.8 before and it is indeed a great lens. This will be a photo first camera for us so the 28-70 is a better fit.
@@RyanWebber I get it, The weight of the 28-70 and lack of IS made it tough to consider as I would rather have the RF70-200 f/2.8 IS which is lighter or just adding the EF 85 1.4/IS to the bag ... As long as it work for you though
Hi Ryan! Look for the Zitay CFexpress to SSD (M2) adaptor, you can have 2tb for around 300$! Anyway the Cfexpress type B are much less expensive than the type A... check around for Angelbird cards. Have a good day... I am subcribed now!
Nice! Thanks for the recommendation.
Isn’t there an xlr thing that you can attach to it?
R5c vs fx3 video!!! Please!!!
Good video. The R5c has the same audio hot shoe ability as the fx3 using the Tascam.
That’s what a few others said. Already in my shopping cart because that was the biggest negative to me.
@@RyanWebber So the fact the R5c is missing IBIS hasn't been a problem? Are you using the Digital Stabilization? Do you think the Stabilization of the R5c is comparable to the Fx3? That's a concern of mine when i sell my R5 next week.
@@presise the lens stabilization on the RF lenses is better than the in body of the FX3. I have the digital IS turned off, but the lens on…I’m having to try pretty hard to make the footage “look” handheld with the lens stabilization on. Going to do a stabilization and image quality test tomorrow because I’ve been very interested as well.
@@RyanWebber Thanks bro. Makes me feel better. I worry about 30 minute battery life in 4k 60, lack of IBIS and the bulkiness of the fan.
@@presise yeah man. The size isn’t an issue, but definitely bad battery life. Hopefully a firmware update may help a little, but a power bank may be the best solution.
Holy blown out highlight rolloff 😬
Definitely look into the Angelbird Cards. I just bought a 1TB CFExpress for $500. Best bang for buck memory cards out right now! Before this one I bought a Sandisk 256GB for $330 🤦🏾♂️
I wanna give the R5C a chance but might just stick with the R5 for now
Good tip! I feel like the R5 to R5c isn’t going to be a huge change, but it’s been so long since I had the R5 I can’t remember. Having the cinema camera menu is definitely a plus.
@@RyanWebber yea for sure! I’m looking into a C70 as my main shooter
@@ShotByCurt built in ND and XLR built in even it it is a smaller XLR. I’ve had one for about 6 months. Solid camera and great image.
@@RyanWebber Nice! And thanks can’t wait
@@RyanWebber There's also a new Angelbird 512Gb Pro SE card out, it's only $180 and works great in the 5C. There are some real good value options out now for CFExpress cards. No longer an issue :)
Cfexpress type b cards aren't much more expensive per GB. The new angel birds are actually cheaper. The cfexpress come in much larger capacities and have much faster clearing and transfer speeds compared to your v90 cards.
Yeah, I’m just fully invested in v90 128gm Sony tough cards. I’ll end up getting an angelbird down the road, it’s just another expense I didn’t think about since the Sonys both only use SD cards
@@RyanWebber Angelbird Cfexpress type B SE for 179$...
How is the dynamic range in comparison?
Better than the R5 but slightly less than the FX3. I've used it on a few more shoots now and I can say the photo capabilities are amazing. I love the colors and how easy it is to get a good image out of video, but I still prefer the FX3 for video focused projects. Anything that is a true hybrid 50/50 project, this is my new go-to.
Good video
Appreciate it
What’s your opinion on the battery life? Took it out for a shoot, shooting 4K 24/60 and it was just eating the rough batteries every 30+ minutes
Really bad battery life haha. Photos it’s not quite as bad, but man it eats through them. I bought an extra when I picked the camera up because I heard it was bad, but yeah it’s real bad. I’m going to probably look into a usbc power bank if I decide to use it on long talking heads.
@@RyanWebber oh man, I thought I was doing something wrong, this is coming from Sony.
@@BLKCreativeStudio nope, I think I shot for about 45min at the spring game and was down to 10% battery. I usually do pretty good at turning off my camera when I’m not using it too.
@@RyanWebber, using the Anker powerbank or you have the v-mount batteries base from
Anton Bauer Titon base or Core SWX Powerbase Edge (they have new Edge Link that’s stackable and I think hot swapable). Both are 70W and have many ports to plug in camera and other accessories. I like them because when shooting handheld, it removes the micro jitters with the weight distributed to the bottom and you still have access to the screen.
As always, there are some cons but the pros outweighs it.
I also shoot both Sony and Canon and find myself going back and forth depending on the jobs and use cases. Both are good and nothing to complain about with so many options these days. And there is more parity than before.
Correction: The card slot is CFexpress Type B, not CFast. Theses are very different cards.
Can you can record video to both cards simultaneously?
it should, even the R5 does this.
C70 can do it just work here too is the same Interface…
Yes you can
Or you could get the tascam xlr adapter that goes in the smart shoe and boom no cables and you got your xlr inputs.
is it possible to run a shotgun while also running a lav into this at the same time?
@@regnismada4936 I’m not sure, I can’t test it because I don’t have the tascam unit at the moment.
Looks like you need the XLR module to solve your 'audio issue'.
True, just more money to dish out haha
Heads up. Your negative that R5C takes CFEpress cards, type B is cheaper & faster than Sony Type A. Type B Angelbird 512gb 2000mbs is only £150 vs £400 for Sony 160gb 1000mbs. As for audio just use the Tascam with all the ports in the multi function shoe.
You have ignored the hotshoe and the ability to add the Tascam audio adapter, which will give you 4 channel in-body recording, of which 2 channels are XLR !
I had no idea! Already looking into it
@@RyanWebber trust me: the R5C has a few more surprises for you, as you do your research. For me, I've been waiting for this for over 6 years. I shoot in Panasonic GH (because Canon was no good at video) and Canon for stills. So my wallet is empty, but I'm now rocking a Panasonic Lumix GH6 and a Canon EOS R5C (instead of previously a GH5 + a 5D Mk3)
@@EmeraldAudiovisual that’s exciting. I’ve shot a little more with it the past few days and I’ve been liking it more and more.
@@RyanWebber Here's another one, which you may not be aware of: can you hotswap the battery on your Sony cams ? You can on the R5C.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual 🙌🙌🙌
It's not cfast, it's cfexpress type B which is probably even more expensive. :)
Either way...not an SD
Cfexpress are cheaper than SDcards and faster. I shoot in R3 and c70 but shot on the R5 and the A7S3.
Angelbird Pro SE is an CFExpress card with 512gb storage. It has 850MBps write and 1785MBps read for $175 bucks.
To put that into perspective, that is almost 3 times faster then the fastest as card. And a whole bunch faster read.
Also to put that into perspective, how much is the fastest 512gb SD card? 400-500 bucks minimum?
$179.99 for the angel bird.
Oh yeah one more thing, 800MB is fast enough for any setting on the Canon R5 and R5C. Why? Because you times the bit by the byte… by 8.
So Canons max data rate is under the 850MBps of the Angelbird SE card.
I just don't feel like buying more cards, then I need a card reader, then I'm bringing more gear which is opposite of the reason I bought this camera. I already have 4 Sony tough 128gb v90 cards so I'm just sticking with those.
Not sure that the 28-70 will look sharper. The 24-105 is a heck of a great lens and razor sharp. The 28-70 will have more bokeh of course, but sharper…not likely for video, and hard to tell in photo even.
That’s interesting. I’ve been REALLY impressed with the 24-105. They gave me a demo while the 28-70 gets here but I’ll probably pick one up for run and gun stuff.
They crippled the camera by not including 2 cfexpress slots, no ibis, and a micro hdmi slot. The Z9 for $1000 more is a steal.
its not crippled. it is basically an r5 hence the name. I dont know why peopela re expecting some radicile redesign when its just an old mirrorless camera with a fan added and a video os.
@@RayValdezPhotography can't dual record video and no ibis is terrible.
@@kifley19 the ibis is cool for events but on commercial work it is too wobbly on wide lenses. i cant see why it cant dual record. where did u see that,
I wouldnt say crippled. The crippling feature is the battery life......and NIkons = shooting on a potato
@@RayValdezPhotography It can dual record
The R5c doesn't have ibis. At all.
It has digital stabilization, which was not on. Just the lens stabilization
Me watching the foot ball video thinking wow this is so shaky and jarring.
"It's really really smooth, as good looking as shooting on a gimbal"
🧐 What??
I know it's more stable than the fx3, but that was terrible handheld footage lol.
🤣🤣🤣
To people saying A7S3 has better DR. It does and doesn’t. I own the R3 and c70. I owned the A7S3 and R5.
Did not like the A7S3’s color science or picture. Liked the R5. Now the R5 has worse DR than a7S3. But the R5C’s DR IS NOT THE SAME as R5’s. Check out Gerald Undones review about it posted yesterday. It is much closer to an R5C. It being the A7S3.
Basically, Canons 14 stops versus Sonys 15 stops? But Canon has better highlight recovery at the same time as better exposure. Also better image. Better everything. Shutter angle? Yup. Internal Cinema RAW? Got that to!
Why? Because Sony in all its glory was stupid. They made a cinema camera, IE FX3. Without cinema features….
Having both of the cameras, I like using the FX3 for video still. The autofocus is stickier, the buttons are more convenient, and if does have a little better DR. I do like the image and colors I get out of the canon better, but I find myself struggling to get the shot more on the Canon. Just my thoughts on using them both.
THIS IS WHAT I DONT LIKE ABOUT THE CAMERA INDUSTRY.... THEY KNOW THEY ARE GONNA UPGRADE SO THEY GIVE YOU THE 1ST EDITION AND THEN THEY MAKE YOU BUY THE NEXT LEVEL....COME OUT WITH THAT SHIT 1ST....
If this was the original R5, I never would have used Sony for the past year and a half.
@@RyanWebber i dont see the point of going from canon to sony. Unless a person is rich, stickign with one system make sense as there are no huge advantages if any in switching.