Daenerys Targaryen: INFP or INFJ? - GAME OF THRONES (New Edit)
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- Опубликовано: 24 фев 2019
- Mother of Dragons. Breaker of chains. INFP? Or INFJ? This is the second character profile! To celebrate the upcoming release of the final season of Game of Thrones, we discuss the personality of my favorite character from the series, Daenerys Targaryen. Comment your opinions below!
I reedited this video, because I wasn't happy with the first one. I rushed the old one because I was so excited to get it out, but I felt like I didn't do justice to the character. (If you already watched the last one, the words are all the same, but I just added some video clips and music to better the quality). I hope you guys enjoy this one more!
**SPOILERS** If you haven't watched Season 7.
You explain the difference between the two better than I've heard anyone else explain it!
Thank you so much! I feel like there is a lot of confusion between these two types. So much so that a lot of INFJ stereotypes are actually INFP traits. I was thinking of making a whole video just about that, lol.
I would absolutely love it if you did make a whole separate video on it! I always get INFJ on all the multiple choice tests but then I recently did a different, simpler way of figuring it out, and I for sure got INFP on that. I am honestly so confused because they both sound so much like me!
@@checkersssss9 I will definitely do another video about the differences and similarities between the two!
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She is most definitely an infj she was the character I immediately understood and related too. She’s probably a turbulent considering that she is shown to seem like both an infp and infj by many people.
Defenetly INFJ. Her reactions to changes (her dreams of perfection vs decieving reality) is obviously soooooo bad. Burn baby burn ! They should have put svatiskas at the end to make it more obvious i guess. ^^
The fact that people did not realy knew her behind her smile ... that she had few friends (and only if they were totaly with her) ... her cold furies ... are another points.
She's a dragon. The dreamer seeing the futurs. The so said wise that can in an instant of fury destroy it all, including her own dreams. Because of a lack of trust in her power and in others (that are sooooo different). She always looked like coming from another world. Being the last of her kind. Being so alone.
A realy bad leader if on her own. Or a realy great one if listening to others feelings.
As in infp myself I think that INFJs are GONNA say it's them.....and we INFPs are GONNA say it's us. We did not right the story nor acted the part.
You're a perfect infp lol even I think that, there are some toxic people in the comments here
The thing is Daenerys’s characterization fell through in Season 8. It doesn’t follow how she was developing.
Exactly! I think that is the problem that lots of people had with her in season 8. She started acting out of character, as in, acting like a different personality type.
Because she is not INFP.
@@usernowhere4292 she is.
I think she's an infp tbh. I feel like people forget that infp's are not always the sweet moral person all of the time. When they become toxic they can destroy. I'm an infp so I know this. When I'm angry at someone I hit them deep where it hurts their core.
Yes, INFP's also have a dark side. But she is like the women version of Hitler. Than we should say Hitler is also an INFP.
She clearly got her NI in the front (Goal, her desire to be queen) and second the Fe (Gave the slaves a possibility of freedom and a free will to fight for her Ni)
Later on when she burns the city like she offers the Fe for her Ni (Ni first place) and i don't think that's a Fi think to do because Fi are strong in there own values and don't act the opposite of what they detest because that's against ther own believes (I also don't see Ne in her she got one big Ni in front her and she is trying to fight for it not matter the costs)
I think that Jon got more possibilty to be a INFP but i don't why but i think he got a stronger Te to be a INFP he also sees the Ne possibilty (trying to get daenerys with him to fight for the walkers + letting Sam go to find more information about the walkers also a lot of Te in my opinion) and stayed true to his own values (Fi) also because he didn't wanted to bow for Daenerys in the first place until she proved herself to be the queen because that was against his own believes.
But at the same tame i think that his Te is to big to be on the end but it also can be trained especially when it is badly needed and put to the test but that's how i see it.
@@IceKroontje agreed. Many of her Ni and Fe here are said to be Fi. And an obvious sign of her not being INFP is that INFP will most likely be tranquil to let things happen rather than making things happen proactively.
@@usernowhere4292 Also INFP would be more authentic and stay close to there own values and believes and i really don't see that in her, she burned a village and cost a lot of deaths when it isn't where she stand for, i think she is more single minded and determined to her vision in some ways then being authenthic what is defenitily Ni-Ti over Fi-Si also i don't see a INFP in a leader position act that way or be that kind of a leader.
Thought she is one of the easier ones to place (got more trouble with placing Jon with Game of thrones because in some ways he's really about his own values en believes Fi-Si and in other way is he about concrete information and tradition Si-Fi INFP/ISTJ)
@@IceKroontje Yes! Also her determination and that she always tries to uphold justice, even the punishment is harsh, are typical INFJs' doing. INFP does not unless for a cause inclined to their very own values/principles and that actually affect them.
I think Dany is an INFJ according to the books
I don't know how you deal with these comments. "I'm an INFJ/INFP so I know." You asked us to consider Daenerys before the action. Wouldn't she be acting less like herself while she was still a slave to her brother. It's very difficult to type a character/person under those circumstances. She also still believed her brother was a dragon and needed to build up her self-esteem. The intuition she had with the dragon eggs seemed to be introverted intuition. If it was extroverted intuition, wouldn't she have had many ideas. I don't recall her generating multiple ideas. Dominant Ni would need help from others.
I also can't ignore that she's fixated on a single vision, but who wouldn't want to be ruler of a realm or take back their birth right. Does John have goals?
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The funniest thing is, most of infps are mistyped as infjs and the opposite is true, so it becomes even more difficult to know
Jon is an infj and dany an infp in my opinion. I think it‘s clear in the very last episode (after mad queen) when john questions her how they know what‘s good and she answers „I know what‘s right“. Such a fi thing to do! Fe wouldn‘t go after their own morals that much and consider what‘s right for the people. Danaerys is completely stuck in her own ideal world.
That's the same way I felt about her decision making process!
INFJ Fi is strong too. Just because it's a shadow function doesn't mean that it's weak.
@@bigd7355 hmm I don't think INFJ's rely on it, though... never heard of that and never saw it in real life. She just doesn't feel like an infj for me.
No one in this series was INFJ. John is an ISFJ.
@@bigd7355 exactly, that's what I thought! she's like the female version of Hitler, there are a lot similarities between them.
I feel like Daeny is an INFP as well... At the end of the series, when people started abbandoning her and she feelt rejected by Jon who does not know how to deal with the fact that she is his aunt (and since she knew the Targeryen inter-family love stories it was not going against her system of values), she starts going into herself, and that's when the Te takes over.
The problem with her was that she built herself - the core of her personality on the 'queen value'. She had a strong inner feeling that being a queen - a good ruler that will 'break the weel' - is her destiny... When she realized that there might be someone else (and that it might be someone elses destiny), she started withdrawing, as if she could not understand who she is anymore. Those kinds of situations can draw any INFP to the edge of reason and feeling. And if, by chance, that INFP has a dragon he or she can ride around the city with... Well, you know the word, people...
honestly I think it's very hard typing a character. They're not real people. Their actions serves the plot a lot, characters arc are not always respected...
RIP Daenarys. I still uspset for how they ended Danny 😑
Me too!! I understand her going mad eventually. They just didn't execute it well..
Firstly, as an INFJ myself, I can't believe the NFs (INFJ and INFP)s quarrelling with each other here.. Next if I have to voice out: I used to think Daenerys could be an INFJ after being introduced to MBTI (with my limited knowledge at that time), but looking at comments here I realized everyone is either just plainly stating the type they presume or giving seemingly single dimensional refutations and also! - I am genuinely surprised there are no detailed discussions about the differences of the IP/IJ temperaments to differentiate INFP vs INFJs like how IPs usually start by inwardly judging and transitioning into openness perceiving and closing with a judging function (Te in INFPs case) while IJs are the opposite.. Although imo Daenerys didn't show much Ne throughout the series she should be preferring an unhealthy Fi-Si process like most have guessed already. Jon on the other hand in my opinion is an INFJ/ISFJ instead as we can see an effortless unconscious state of initial inner perceiving (dom Ni is my guess but he can be dom Si as well) into a conscious judging (We can all agree he actively uses Fe right..?). One thing I would like to say is perhaps we can pay more attention to how differently Daeny and Jon start their inner process - Fi vs Ni/Si effortlessly and then actively, consciously jump-start their Auxiliary function - Ne vs Fe). I'm not a professional MBTI typist yet so just throwing out my two cents, some food for thought~ instead of war. Peace guys!
Oh my gosh definitely an INFP. Both in the books and on the show, her way of viewing the world felt so familiar. Her character will always be near and dear to my heart.
I feel the same way!
We need to both start a VIP INFP Daenerys Club! *one of you two can host in the front I’ll be in the back of the club somewhere along the wall 🤣
@@INFPHD Hahahaha, nice Sean!
But she's an INFJ tho?
Obviously not INFP. Her words are simply misinterpreted here.
I have not read the books.
But I'm very certain that Dany is INFJ and Jon is INFP.
First of all, listening to your advisers is not Ne.
Dany has an objective view of good and bad, believing that she can "know what is good", Ni-Fe. Jon, who knows nothing, has a subjective view of good and bad, treating Dany's objective view as highly suspect after seeing what she is capable of justifying by her actions at King's Landing.
If you look at their ST attitudes, you'll notice that Dany is far more actionably mobile and comfortable with destruction (indicating Ti-Se) than Jon in an effort to bring about the ideal vision she has for a new utopian paradigm, only slowing because her Ni forecasts the relapse of the changes she has made. Without the adoring approval of the masses, she is laid bare as someone who is willing to justify cruel actions to achieve her end designs. While everything about Jon is oriented toward (Si-Te) preservation of what has worked in the past and minimization of casualties. His main struggle is to find the logistics to save humanity from destruction, shelter for the Free Folk beyond the wall, willing to work with anyone he can believe will help him in that effort, but naive in his earnestness, he sees the best in people, not cognizant of how the greater social currents are there for a reason, with an abundance of hope, ignoring that his idealism is not always shared by the people he interacts with.
I can relate to her too. She does have a 4d Fi function, but Ni is what's conscious, and she primarily understands people with Fe as groups that share homogeneous value-sets.
I do dare say good sir that I believe you have this one wrong. But being an INFP myself, I can understand if you want to hold onto it for personal comfort.
Thanks for the in depth reply. I made this video before season 8 aired. I can see her being INFJ after watching that season. And I wouldn't really want her to be INFP anymore, lol.
@@infpeople4749 Sigh of relief. I'm glad for this agreeable response.
jon in the show is a completely different character, arguably he is the most different from book to screen - unrecognizable. you can’t make blanket statements about any of them but especially not when it comes to jon. there’s a reason book readers say he’s infj and it’s bc he is one
INFJ definitely. If you read the books you see she's focused on her goal 98 percent of the time.
How focused you are on your goals doesn't necessarily mean you're a J or P type. Just like thinking types are supposedly smarter but INFPs are the third most intelligent. Everything I've done in my life is centred on one goal and the INFJs I know don't have that.
Yes as an Infp I can be very goal oriented. I have sent years writing my fantasy novel. Now it is published, and I am translating it into English to publish it again. I am Infp.
I think i relate a lot to her as an infj, seeing what should be done to make a better world or even just visioning it, being able to tolerate difficult life events and come out more powerful with a lot of faith in myself even if I've lost many and became alone, going mad and destroying everything when i get pushed to the extreme and lose everything after wanting to actually save the world i end up ruining it because it doesn't understand what i see or what could be done for better, so easily betrayed because of it, having this one goal and purpose that gives me life and without it I'm no one. I was born to do this certain thing and i know it and will do it because it's mine.
I'm an infj because i resonate with it's functions not because of an inaccurate test, i came out as an infp 4 times and infj once, but after reading about it and getting deeper i know that I'm infj, my answers were just wrong depending on my psychological state at that certain time which wasn't very good.
I’ve always said both Jon and Dany are INFP. Being an INFP myself, I felt connected to both of them and they are my favourite characters. One obvious reason they’re InFP’s is that they are value based and always trying to be the hero.
Me too! They are always the ones I identify with the most. And I could see myself reacting similarly in their situations. Besides the burning people with dragons. Lol. But metaphorically... ;)
Well Said. INFP Here!
I believe dany is INFP and Jon is an INFJ
@@Mandyn8868 are you talking about socionics infj or mbti infj ?
Jon is infp and dany infj
Ugh the writing was soooo bad. Did everyone forget that Rob beheaded 2 "traitors" that were his own family against his mothers pleas? His he mad? Ugh. The inconsistencies are just too glaring.
I never noticed how she says "I'm not here to put them in chains", yet uses the fear of rejection, pain, or death to bind them in their own psychological chains. She becomes another slaver herself.
What if she used to be an Infp and then turned Infj? Because there's definitely a huge change in her ideals
might be the character arc that has been twisted yes
You can’t change your mbti, your different cognitive functions just develop overtime making u seem different
Here is why I think she is not an INFJ. She is, indeed, a very idealistic and revolutionary person just like an INFJ , and she sees an issue and want to radically solve it just like an INFJ. However, she only focusses on one issue (slavery) and forget that everything else has to do with it like poverty and uneducation and she does not try to fix these as well, and so she fails to look at an issue in all its forms and see all sides in order to block the issue from happening ever again (Lack of Ti or Ni-Ti). She only focusses on radically solving the issue of slavery because she was herself victim of it, not because it just feels fair to do so for the people victims of it. She patronizes only with those she can relate to(Presence of Fi). She is very forceful, cute and polite, but forceful and get very triggered when things do not go her way. Sometimes, she even acts first and then think(Presence of Te). She lacks directions, leadership and purposes. Remember when she freed the slaves in that one palace, what happened? She literally almost lsot control of it, and the palace became miserable since she did not have another better system to institutionalize in order to keep these people safe and satisfied. So, she could very much see how she would free slaves from around the world, but her mind only stays on this little part and does not go further into the future and start to plan "What I will do after I do this? What will I do to maintain what I have caused?" (Lack of Ni). I would also genuinely say that I do NOT see Ne in her. She uses a lot of Fi, Si, Te, but I don't know for the rest. Lmao, funny how you said the same as me. I wrote this as I was watching this video.
Sorry, I saw this late. Thanks for the in depth comment! I agree with a lot of that. Maybe, since she's unhealthy, she's stuck in an Fi-Si loop? So that's why we don't see her Ne as much as we should.
@@infpeople4749 Oh, yeah, that would explain a lot because even if she shows a lot of Fi-Se-Te moments, she also seems to have some Si in her and is too idealistic to be a sensor.
Indeed, there was no INFJ in this series.
She focuses more on being queen than slavery though and people with infj often try to get to that position for the good. Even when there doing bad they feel like its genuinely for the good of the world.
I am in borderline between infj n infp.
I am INFP. She is INFP
The NJs intuition (INFJs, INTJs) has nothing in common with other types intuition. She's an unhealty INFJ, no doubt.
she's ENFJ, a Protagonist lol
She may switch between the 2?
I am INFP but have been typed as INFJ depending on what is going on in my life...
The mbti is supposed to be inherent from when you're born, how you reflect those traits changes as you mature throughout your life. An unhealthy INFJ would be reflected in Hitler, while a healthy INFJ would be reflected in MLK or Ghandi.
Keep dreaming, INFPs. She's one of ours.
Hahahahaha, you can have her after season 8...
I’m not so sure we want her. After that speech in season 8 😂
@@infpeople4749 and that's exactly why she's INFJ. Cause a part of us think she was right to do what she did. We do not reject her. We understand her feelings. So i think we're donne here. ^^ The choice is made obviously.
And yes basicaly beeing INFJ is god's bad character writing. Lol
So you have pride on having a character by yourself and think it's a perfect reason to put down infps? I'm pretty sure the nice infjs don't need you hun
She is enfj lmao
The comment section is filled with bickering... 🙄 But one thing's clear she is my fav. ~INFP
this is embarrassing. she’s an ENFJ, she’s very much extrovert but has a few people in her mist
Lol, you must not have read the books....
I believe Dany is an INFJ and Jon is an ISFP (at least in the show). I like the way you explained your points, though, i think we just interpret her character in a different way (but she's one of my favorites too).
I think she doesn't have a major focus on her feelings and personal preferences. I think she focus on a vision of a new, idealized world, that she could save all people in the world as an ultimate goal. I don't think she questions her own actions morally, there's an episode she says like "let the priests argue over good and evil, slavery is real and i will end it" and in the final episode (which i hated btw) Jon (Fi-dom) is the one focusing on goodness/morality, which she kind of doesn't care that much saying she knows what's good for the whole world (unhealthy Fe users tend to impose their views on others thinking they know what's good for them). I see she kind of "disconsideres" other possibilities in order to reach the one that would result in a bigger probability of the big picture idealized vision (Ni>Ne). When she says "i need to be more than that" i also interpreted it as a sign she doesn't care that much about her personal identity of "Queen", she cares about being accepted as such by others and her people (Fe). She tried to be liked by Sansa and was also worried about what people of Winterfell would think about her claim. Jon as an Fi dom didn't consider what others could think, since he focus on his passions and desires (he doesn't want to be king even with his people wanting him to be, he wants dany to be queen because of his passion for her).
English isn't my mother language, so sorry if i misspell something here.
Also, could you make a video explaining why you see Emilia as an ENFJ? I was kinda on the fence about whether she is an ENFJ or ESFJ
Thanks for watching! Very good points! I can definitely see where you're coming from, especially in the show. I made this video before season 8 started, and from the very beginning of the season I didn't like what they were doing with her character. Then episode 5 happened and I thought I might have an existential crisis, hahaha (just kidding, sort of). But after finishing season 8, do think a stronger argument can be made for her being INFJ. At least in the show. Thanks again for watching!! And for your respectful, in depth comment!! I really appreciate your take on her character!!
That could be an interesting video! I mostly see her typed as an ENFJ online. I'd have to do some more research to see whether I think she's ENFJ or ESFJ. But now that you say that, I could see her as an ESFJ also. But yeah, that could be interesting!
@@infpeople4749 hey, your reply is like intj
Disagree. Around minutes 10, he explains Te in INFP. (talking about show Dany since the book hasn't finished yet. Although I see INFP in both version). INFP who starts as a healthy to very unhealthy one.
"(unhealthy Fe users tend to impose their views on others thinking they know what's good for them). I see she kind of "disconsideres" other possibilities in order to reach the one that would result in a bigger probability of the big picture idealized vision (Ni>Ne)" --> This is Te. However, Te is her 4th function, therefore it takes the worst characteristics of Te: bossy, rigid, power hungry, etc. And mind you, at that point in the stories she was under so much stress, which factors in for her excessive use of Te and lost Fi and Ne.
And one more thing, "unhealthy Fe users tend to impose their views on others thinking they know what's good for them". --> Fe usually do this in a more manipulative way like guilt-tripping, passive-aggressive. More like Margaery-style. Abrasive move (roasting a city) is not Fe style. This is again evidence of a very unhealthy Te.
"she cares about being accepted as such by others and her people (Fe). She tried to be liked by Sansa and was also worried about what people of Winterfell would think about her claim" --> Te is an extroverted function, therefore it also needs validation from outside. In Essos she had her validation by people called her "mother", being her army, basically admire her and give her the validation she wanted.
She's an INFP and Jon is an INFJ
I'm infp and my brother is infj.
Although I'm the puppy of the house and he's the tiger. But I can definitely say that daenerys is truly infp.
Agreed! 😊
Probably both
Wow I think this it’s so true. I wasn’t shure that she is an INFP till I see the video. It remainds me to the escene with the eggs of dragon. This is very INFP. I’m an INFP also and I could be a sweetheart, calm or seen as insecure but when it’s about my values and something I really believe in I could be strong and kind of strict because are few general things that I take beacuse experiences and are good for all. It’s all about that. It’s a new mental journey when I try to change them.
I haven’t seen the show yet but I’ve read all the books,,,, and in the books she’s definitely INFP, with extremely strong Fi and developed Te
Agreed! 😁
INFJ no doubt.
She is ENFJ xD
Daenerys is INFP while Jon Snow is INFJ
INFJ, in my opinion :]
The writers kinda forgot she is an INFP haha
Daenerys is like the reason you shouldn't piss off a infp lol
She seems ISFP to me. Like she stubborn and impulsive af and she has strong values. Like as an ISFP myself i can tell u we can be damn bossy and demanding at times.