INFJ : Character Development
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19:27 Greatest insecurity and fear of INFJs: "That they will never be understood and will always feel alone, despite being surrounded by people they care for." I'm weeping.
Unfortunately that’s true, everyday I always get so frustrated with my family because they don’t understand me and I can’t word it as I feel and know it and I just can’t make them understand for some reason which always leads often to arguments *sigh*
You will have to grow above it that's what I have understood so far....
It’s so true, I have God but I just want 1 person in this life to be understood by and myself with.
Damn, that’s so specific but rings incredibly true for me. I’ve been there and it’s such a suffocating experience
This one insecurity has appeared & reappeared through out my life.
When you said that part about INFJ’s wanting to share their innermost thoughts only to have them be treated with disdain (even rejected) hit me like ton of bricks! Its like you pulled that out of my mind. I have tried to share my very inner person with people only for them to react in a way I found uncomfortable. I no longer share my inner self with anyone, not even family. I really want to, but I don’t trust anyone. At times it’s a lonely existence
That does sound terrible and I'm sorry you've had to deal with that for so long. You try so hard to be responsible with those around you and how you interact with them, only to have your own worth called into question when you do anything that's not immediately attached to those others. I admit I struggled a lot with this video in trying to get my head wrapped around the dynamic. Everyone has these experiences, but some types, like INFJs, really, really care. I'm a type that doesn't care much--I can brush it off while simultaneously waving a middle finger, but you care and it hits you hard.
I know some other INFJs have found some benefit to understanding their own predicaments from CS Joseph's "Vice and Virtue of INFJs" video. He talks about how INFJs go about finding others who are willing to accept what you have to offer, rather than making you feel trapped in a one-way relationship. I hope it helps you, too.
@@cynthiapayne9906 thank you so much for responding and for the suggestion. I’ll look into it ❤️
Eventually you will learn not to care, bc as an INFJ you are going to want to try again lol
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And when that happens, it becomes so scary.
I guess this is the biggest curse of the us INFJs ..being able to understand everyone but no one who really understands us..
As an INFJ, I'm suddenly very grateful I was raised in a loving and morally stable home.
I know, right????? :) Thanks for watching
Literally same!!!
What's that like?🤡
@Omi Miau u Took the words outa my mouth
wish i can say the same
As an INFJ, I keep my friends circle small and think I'm the special best friend to someone, until I know that the other friends is an Extrovert and you are just happened to be in their circle because of their outgoing personality until one day you realized slowly they replaced you easily with someone else., And that hurts.
It's not so much that you are replaceable because they're an extrovert and easily interchange people due to their outgoing-ness, but more that their threshold to offer that first olive branch is a lot lower than most introverts' would be. They are more willing to go out there and meet people, but they are still looking for a return on investment for the relationship, whatever that relationship might be. If they are not getting what they need or want from the relationship then they will seek those things somewhere else. The rest is a dance and constant negotiation of time invested, emotional connection, and willingness to be vulnerable. All difficult things. It doesn't mean you weren't really friends, just that some relationships naturally come to an end more quickly than others. And that's okay.
Ouh dude, I feel you😔🙏
@@cynthiapayne9906 they are going outside and meeting everyone and called them as friends. I wonder if I was in put by them in that circle. The emotional is all great but somehow when they meet someone who is maybe more hype than me, or more outgoing, I was left behind little by little and be forgotten. When their circle is become smaller, then they started to call me and talk to me, meanwhile all these time they just left their friend there alone. As introvert, It somehow impact my trust issue and effect my social communication.
As an INFJ I always play the role of the counselor around my friends, but no matter how close we are I can't open up to them and I feel like they don't know me at all and see me as they want to see me 😔
I feel the same. When I think of speaking up, I'm just afraid no one will understand me that's why I choose to keep things and my thoughts to myself..
I had the same problem, but I was trying to take small steps, that I was uncomfortable with but not in a way that I would show so much that it would have hurt really bad if the reaction wasn't good for me. I've seen in many cases, it is not that bad - sometimes it is of course, but in genereal it was good to showing more of myself. You can start with a tiny statement, so it would not be that hurtful, if it is not heard or even dismissed. (For example: a friend of mine called me a shopper, because I chaneged my style to explore new sides of myself. And I just nodded. Next time I said, look at my room, there is barely enough to be ddictet to shopping. - She saw it.)
INFJS have an issue with vulnerability. You are not alone! ❤
As much as I agree with most of the video, the point you make about trying to fit in due to an INFJ's sensitive nature is not that accurate. Personally, I have always had an extreme need to question norms and challenge trends - questioning them and the people who follow them. The fact that we are sensitive works in a nuanced way when looking at conformity. On the one hand, the INFJ is very sensitive, however a healthy INFJ understands that not everyone can except you and so you, ultimately, must except yourself, which is one of the most powerful steps the INFJ must take before they can truly shine. Take this analogy: you put on a weird outfit that your family does not like. You explain to them why you like it and they finally understand. However, now you must go to public dressed like this, and there ought to be those that hate the way you look. An unhealthy INFJ may be prone to feel insecure because of how sensitive they are to other emotions, however a healthy INFJ would learn to block other peoples opinions as they become wiser as they can see the bigger picture of the problem. Personally, I have always been my own counsellor as I have high moral integrity and have a strong desire to fight for justice, therefore, I value my own emotions and health as I see the way things affect me and why they do. The more I grow, the better I have become with shielding my emotions, which in turn sometimes makes me look cold inside, but really, I am dealing with the hyper awareness of everyones emotions and energies. Thus, healthy INFJ's, however old they may be, can be very sure in themselves, therefore rejecting the societal norm which expects them to follow trends or feel insecure amongst others.
I really appreciate your comment and I spent some time mulling it over. I haven't done my deep dive into the INFP yet, but everything you are saying is striking me as very INFP--right down to your heavy use of Si and Fi statements and your example of fashion choices. For instance, one of the big insecurities of INFJs and something they must work to overcome is performance anxiety--the fear of not performing well, which is why they procrastinate so much. On the other hand, INFPs are usually unconcerned too much with their performance but are insecure about what others think of them and about their own reputation and working through that and learning to become more true to themselves and their beliefs is the INFPs' challenge. Like I said, I haven't done my deep research into the type yet and I'm not about to hold myself up as any kind of expert on even the ones I have--I'm just curious and figuring things out as I go--but I would be interested in hearing if you have done any research into the INFP and specifically if that type resonated with your own personality? If I'm interpreting my notes correctly, they are one of the two types prone to making... shall we say, 'quirky' fashion choices. I suspect you are actually an INFP. Again, I'm new to MBTI, but my understanding is that most tests often confuse the INFJ and INFP, so I am curious about your own personal journey there and would love to hear back from you. Thank you again so much for watching!
@@cynthiapayne9906 Thank you for your reply. The analogy with which I used came from the top of my head - something I thought most could relate to. However, to answer, indeed it may seem by my words that I may be an INFP, however, the only shared characteristic is that I have a strong need to stand up for my self and individuality. This however, I may argue, comes from personal experiences that have moulded such responses. In fact, an INFJ truly grows when they encounter new people and the experiences which come from them. Through this an INFJ is able to grow themselves, which is something they so often leave for others. When they realise their own value and purpose, they then understand how to support their own needs. However, the vital factor of such an INFJ is that they are healthy, meaning they grow into themselves and are able to control they sensitivity. This was a process I had to get used to at a young age. I would also say that standing up for justice (whatever matter that may be) is a quality that INFJ's share intensely, and so when they grow into their self-awareness, there is an intense need to remain integral to such morals. Personally, I realised that growth is a value I hold dear, and it would be unwise to let everyone except for myself grow. Thus, the need for self-justice arrises and is something they must work towards - not something they are particularly born with. It comes down to the type of INFJ and their experiences. I hope this makes some sense.
INFJ. I've never had an "extreme need" to deviate from the norm, however I do tend to be judgemental towards the people who are obsessed with following trends. I think this trait shows up somewhat in regards to my music taste, as I take pride in having a colorful musical palette including a variety of pretty obscure songs, and CAN NOT STAND people who are proud of listening to the most mainstream, formulaic music possible. I think, at least for me, I like to be unique, but I don't feel overly obligated to stand out or be controversial (at least in person). Question everything, of course, but it does feel nice to have the sense that you fit in somewhere. And I think that sensitivity is always there, no matter how mentally strong I become. Even if I can stand my ground and shake it off easily, there will always be that little mental "Ouch." Not to say that you aren't an INFJ-- I don't doubt you. That's just my personal experience.
Actually as an INFJ, I do support what the narrator said in the video. For as long as I could remember I have struggled to fit in even though I wanted so bad. I was very sensitive, shy and would cry easily so I ended up with no freinds for a very long period. And when I started to break a little out of my shell, I simply wasn't true to my self and I would lie and hide my true personality from the other kids at school just so that I can be seen as cool and to feed my deep desire for belonging. Yet I was never able to achieve it even after changing school. Until I decided to simply accept the way I am and that I am not like the others. It was and still is a long ass process and If I could I would do whatever I can to change myself and be able to fit in and get rid of that feeling of being an outcast cause it simply wasn't my choice to be different.
I believe the main issue here isn't much about talking about different types, instead I think we're just confusing immature and mature INFJs. Yolanda's description sounds a lot like what personal challenges an INFJ overcomes when they mature. Mature types grow and learn to live healthier with themselves and their characteristics, strength and flaws. I believe that has to do with the disconnection here, as we usually do not talk about types in their mature, balanced phases, instead we usually (as I'd say the video does) focus on more exaggerated characteristics, closer to the archetypal and the immature.
despite the fact that infjs are screwed kind of individuals, when you come to being "kind" believe me they will give you their heart if you ask politely because that is what they are here for
The vast majority of the time, there is no conflict and INFJs are gentle and kind individuals because they enjoy being kindhearted individuals, so why not? But remember the context of these videos--writing fictional characters. It is the responsibility of the writer to understand where the weaknesses and loopholes of their characters are so that the writer can exploit those weaknesses for maximum dramatic value. Without drama and conflict, there is no entertainment. INFJs offer a deliciously unique loophole to their normally kind and gentle personna, but you have to know where it is before you can use it. INFJs will give you their heart--so long as they haven't already given their heart to someone they perceive as having been hurt in *some* way by you. And an emotionally strategic as they are, their loyalties can be very difficult to read. Thanks for watching!
I just took the test and got INFJ. I never would have picked these characters as ones being similar to me, since a lot of them are seen as wise or leader types, which I cannot relate to.
However, after hearing you explain everything, it's scary how true a lot of it is.
The humor part describes me perfectly. 😅
I'm glad it made sense to you
@@cynthiapayne9906 thank you!
Ya, I always thought my humor was dry/sarcastic but it usually fits the moment that no one appreciates, unless they're your psychiatrist
Nah some well most characters I felt drawn to and didn’t know it
INFJ can go to 8 with ENTJ ... so it's scary... or can go to 7 ESPF for adventures .... but might maybe depends on the hyperactive brains. the advocate personality is 1-2 that can be cross to 7-8 for integrations and disintegrations of qualities or flaws....so you might be a true INFJ... with no cross personalities. That's my cross theory.
Y'all know when you're with people and can feel yourself being parted from the conversation and you want to talk but it's too late.. worst feeling ever
I'm a potterhead and an INFJ-T and I forgive u
PD: I saw a lot mentors here, interesting
Thank you
By now I've seen hundreds of INFJ-related videos, but this was certainly one of the most helpful ones. Kudos!
Well thank you very much
As an INFJ, I feel being a PhD in engineering is very suitable for me since I can work on finding the inner connections often work and create my own theories.
I am an INFJ Application Engineer, but I don’t have the freedom to create my own theories 😂😂 It kills me . I have to always be precise following one way of doing things.
I'm also an INFJ and a engineer :)
I am also an INFJ pursuing my Engineering degree. However, in the face of difficult tasks, I find myself questioning whether this path is right for me. After watching a video, I had an epiphany that my higher self, symbolized by Dumbledore, might be purposefully subjecting my present self, baby Harry, to these hardships for the greater good of my future. I must defeat, Voldemort, and prove wrong the doubters among my family and friends who didn't believe in me. 💪
That came out a little strong..must be an INFJ thing. But until I get my degree, I will be back for this very comment.
Sit down. Count to ten. Check phone. "Feeling like an INFJ?" No?". Then just swipe off.
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Omg I'm an infj and I just started realizing this pattern of first needing to make sure that people know how empathetic I am and how I always have their best interest in mind, before sharing anything controversial or speaking in a more sharp (= passionate and critical) tone or simply disagreeing - and you describe it so well! As long as other people know that I will meet their emotional needs 110%, they can't simply cancel me when I communicate an unpleasant thought or theory xD And it's not about them at all, not that I don't care because I do, but this pattern at its core is all about me building ellaborate foundations for being able to safely be myself around the people I don't want to scare away.
Dumbledore was able to do all this, but with this illogical unconditional faith/believed in Harry. He manipulates the plans, but guilds Harry with no “manipulation” directly on his development, which makes possibility of getting to desire outcome such small possibilities.
Its because Harry was the chosen one, too, by Dumbledore. Amorality but full of spirituality and empathy somehow to humanity.
I couldn’t really explain it. I was still young when I finished Harry Potter, but Dumbledore’s motive just made so much sense that I got it without giving too much thoughts into it. A very INFJ characteristic I suppose?
When INFJs believe, they believe HARD, lol! And was Harry the chosen one? Dumbledore certainly believed he was, but there were two boys who fit the prophesy and the last book gives plenty of evidence to argue the point that he wasn't. I always loved the books for giving that little bit of ambiguity and then never quite giving closure to it. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
Cynthia Payne In my perspective was Voldemort chose Harry, so his the chosen one.
But what I was saying was that, Dumbledore chose Harry as the person that could carry on with his plans, rather than just manipulate him like a tool because realistically this seems more controllable.
But yeah. No biggies. Just my view. Lets not over explain myself and get myself into that loop.
And you’re welcomed! I loved your explanation video, it was very right on the spot.
@@NaChamRu I gotcha, and yes! Dumbledore really didn't have any malicious or nefarious intent--at all--and I think that was a key factor in so many people (and readers) going along with him on what was, rationally, pure insanity. Dumbledore really was quite pure in that regards. And thank you :) I've been having so much fun with these videos and learning so much as I go along. It's so cool to get to share it and talk about it with others
he didn't have unconditional faith in harry.
He CREATED Harry, then guided him. Aside from Harry being a horcrux and having to deal with the part of Voldemort within him, Harry was everything Voldemort wasn't....they make a yin/yang sort of, like Neo and Smith in the Matrix. and like Neo in the first movie, Harry had to believe it himself. Dumbledore is like the Oracle. Harry knew what it meant to be powerless against tyrannical "parents". Harry and Voldemort weren't so different in some ways. Tom Riddle and Harry both felt isolated when being raised. Riddle sought power and greatness to compensate. Harry fought against it. He held onto an idea that Dumbledore himself pointed out: love ("Dumbledore : No, no. This kind of mark cannot be seen. It lives in your very skin. Harry : What is it? Dumbledore : Love, Harry. Love." is Dumbledore reinforcing it....“You're the one who is weak. You will never know love or friendship. And I feel sorry for you.” his patronus...he thought he saw his dad at first. that light that erupts from harry's wand to protect himself and Sirius: love, the motivation for his actions.) That's what his parents were, and why he held them so close. Dumbledore's motto may as well have been "love conquers all". Even his own death played a part. He even tried to help Voldemort. That's why he was at Hogwarts to begin with. His vision is always the bigger picture.
Flawed? depends on how you look at it. Dumbledore is certainly a very complex character, but he was likely the only person who could understand and defeat Voldemort, because that's really what this was: Dumbledore vs Voldemort. harry was just Dumbledore's queen (master chess piece). Imagine the alternative: a world ruled by death eaters is a world that eats itself (like an ouroboros). His mere return began to erode the world around him.
it wasn't empathy somehow to humanity. protecting humanity was the central goal.
Dumbledore is an ENFJ I believe a divergent Ni-Ti one however; his FeSe convergence is very apparent. It is easy to confuse the 2 types however
This is probably the most in-depth video I've ever seen on the INFJ personality. Thank you very much.
The humor bit is spot on 😆 🤣 😂! I cackled loudly because my humor scares the bejesus out of my "new" friends. If they get it...they graduate to the inner circle.
It can be a very effective litmus test, lol! Thanks for watching!
"I despise guessing games" .... yall don't even understand. We really do lol
I never thought of Scar as an infj, but I can see it now. The nihilistic worldview, the emotional manipulation, all the markers.
It's really so interesting to compare the 'good' and 'bad' versions of these types. MBTI often gets stuck in stereotypes (I'm guilty of it, too) which really limits the understanding of what's going on. Strip it down and put it into different environments and that's where the interesting happens, lol! Thanks for watching!
THAT'S DEEP, REAL DEEP.
I think this is why being a musician is the ideal job for me. In my view, music is a fantastic way of making people happy and joyful. I love the creative side too. There's nothing more than I love than brainstorming musical ideas. It's great on the social side too. 2-3 hours entertaining people is ideal for me. It's not too long to point were I'm drained, but it's long enough for me to enjoy myself
This video helped to find another missing peace in the puzzle of understanding how I function and why I do what I do. Ironically it comes naturally to me to figure out others but understanding and empathizing with myself can sometimes be quite a challenge.
Suddenly it makes so much sense...I am strongly driven by integrity and while I am a deeply empathetic person and other peoples feelings affect me too, I can still shut down all emotion as soon as I sense injustice that has to be rightened. Also I do have strong morals but morals in general appear relative to me..I don’t know if anyone else feels that way too & it’s so funny that my greatest fear truly is to never be understood and be lonely whilst being around those I love..
I'm so glad it connected with you :) You should know that the psychology in these videos is not my own work--I use CS Joseph's 4-sides framework (link in description). I just made his work pretty and applicable to one of my favorite hobbies (writing fiction). He has a huge library of INFJ videos in lecture format, so if you would like more of the same, please check out his channel. Thanks for watching!
Quite spot on. INFJ seeks a friend who gets me.
I'm so glad you liked it!
This is perfect.
Thank you!
22:20 I fear this the most, the darkness and chaos I can cause if pushed.
Yeah. INFJs make for the most deliciously interesting and dark of villains for me, but then I pull myself out of the damn book and look around at the real INFJs and I'm like, ah, damn. 😜
I really enjoy this video. From editing effects to sharing your understanding of INFJ culture. My whole life has been a journey of "being" myself and also being "acceptable and respectable".
And also that more often than not I can be wrong in my assumptions and deductions. Especially when not wanting to interact with the outside world enough to build a concrete understanding.
And that even if I am correct in my insights, it may unfortunately be of no benefit or not received well. And being corrected or taught is not an offense but a reconstruction or just a lesson in being tactful and more environmentally "aware".
Thank you. Great content.
These videos have been fun and informative. Not only is it helping with character creation, I have also gained insight into the cognitive processes of people in my circle. I have an acquaintance that says she is an INFJ but she never struck me as being particularly empathetic. The way the empathy process works as described in this video leads me to believe that she may be intensely empathetic but since she doesn’t have experience mirroring a large group of people, she has only her own personal reactions to measure people against. So if they do not react in the same way she thinks she would if she lived in their circumstances, then she has no sympathy for them. Even if her assumption about how she would respond in someone else’s circumstances is statistically less likely.
This is so cool, thank you! It's critical for NFJs to have a well-rounded emotional education or it really handicaps them in life. They rely so much on logic and so little on rationale that they need that strong emotional mirroring muscle to help them understand the world in a healthy way. Thanks for watching!
Thanks this vid is so educational, I really appreciate it!🥰
I love your series on character development through the different types. I would love to see one on ENFPs in the future, if you ever feel inspired to make one. Thank you so much for all your hard work. ❤
Thanks for pointing out my flaws, not just glorifying, so that I have things to work on.
I'm so excited for the rest of this series! This was amazingly thought out and well-presented.
Thank you! It's going to take a while unless they figure out how to add more hours to the day, but I do so love making these videos!
This is the best breakdown.
Thank you
Neat! I'm amazed at how well boiled down the INFJ is here - at least how well I relate to and understand the core concepts. I love this and I'm sharing it with my psychology buddies.
Awesome, thank you! And thanks for watching.
Thank you Cynthia Payne
You are welcome
This video is beyond informative
Wow. I have never thought about how I will instinctively think about how one part can equal to the whole. I do this constantly in my writing. I ask, 'how can this one piece fit into this plot, and how can this new story idea tie into the whole story?' The video was truly insightful. Thank you.
You are very welcome, thank you for watching
great videos, can't wait for the INFP analysis! 😀
Thank you! INFP is next :)
I make so much sense now. you just literally describe me in this 29.32 -minute video. Good and bad both of my aspects.
I'm so glad you found it helpful :) If you are interested in more of the same, then you should know that the psychology in these videos is based on the 4-sides system headed by CS. Joseph (link in description). He has a huge library of INFJ videos. Thanks for watching :)
This was the most accurate video description of an INFJ ive seen! Well done! Please do ENTP next!
Thank you! I've added your vote to the tally :)
wow what a great video!!! I would LOVE to watch the INFP one!!
Thank you, and I have added your vote to the tally. It may be at a snail's pace, but we will get there ;)
This video is quite well done.
13:14 perception of the world. Yo, I forget when thanksgiving, Christmas, and other holidays dates. I literally don't care to keep up with human holidays cause it's repetitive.
Uncreative....I do my own in my own way
I forgot my own birthday last year 🤣🤣🤣
Loved it ♥️
Best INFJ character breakdown I have ever seen (and I have watched a lot!!) Very indepth and very accuate. Can you do one on ISTP please?
Thank you! I'm afraid I cannot take the credit for the psychology--for that I recommend checking out CS Joseph's channel (link in description). The approach is all his, I just made it pretty and applicable to my favorite hobby (writing fiction), but he's got a huge library on the 4-sides dynamic. And I will add your vote to the tally. I've been hoping to get more votes for ISTP, lol!
Perfect! As an INFJ this makes all the sense!
Thank you! That is always good to hear :)
I feel like I have such big shoes to fill being an INFJ. Especially seeing how morally right these characters and some other INFJ’s are.
It's not a bad standard to strive for
Its explains alot. Im an Infj who is uncomfortable with large groups but have meaningful relationships one on one
True of any introvert :) And of many of us less outgoing extroverts, lol!
@@cynthiapayne9906 It took my friends forever to understand that. I would go mute
wow, so accurate 😲
mind blowing~
Lol! Thank you, I try :) If you are interested in this sort of approach, then while I will take full credit for the presentation, the info used here (99+%) comes from C.S. Joseph's channel. So if you are interested in more of this way of looking at the types, his channel is linked in the description. Thanks for watching!
@@cynthiapayne9906 absolutely loved it~
thank you~ ❤️
The dumbledoor part is a good example of “for the greater good”. except for the fact that the safest place for Harry WAS with the Dursley’s bc of his mothers spell. The moment he turned 18 the protection lifted. That’s why he left the Dursley’s only in the last book. If Harry was placed anywhere else he probably would have died. Love the video!!
Love this. Would love to see ENFJ characters.
If you found all these clips yourself, you are quite analytical. all those dots connecting.
I did, thanks for noticing :) Your comment made me quite irrationally happy this morning, lol! 😎
@@cynthiapayne9906 I'm happy to hear that 🙂, watching this video made me realise I love to connect the dots too. It's cool how you did it with movie scenes. I imagine it took a while unless you just had a sudden woah moment connect all of these simultaneously. possibly far fetched but I don't know maybe you're some type of genius. Good starter video on my route for more information.
@@bugsy7878 I'm so glad it helped you connect some dots, too :) And yes, these videos do take a while--I'm good but I'm not that good, lol! If you are looking for more MBTI info then I'd like to direct you to CS Joseph's channel (link in description). His system is what my videos are based on, I just made them pretty, but the info on the psychology is his. Hope that helps. Thanks again!
This made me quiet and just listen. Speechless, I don't even need to say anything. This is a great video.
Yes, I don't really care how close we are. My mouth would be sealed closed about my thought process or feelings. Unless you proved to me that you can keep up with how I am thinking or 'understand' where I am coming from. And what's the meaning behind my words, it's like a test but also not really. I am misunderstood so so so many times in my 20 years of life, so much so that I promised to keep my mouth shut and that there's no point of proving myself since I've already see it's no use for my future.
I'm 24/7 hyper aware, never really relaxed once. Maybe, but it's only when I'm alone and have time to collect my thoughts.
I honestly think I'm stuck between and healthy and an unhealthy INFJ, but slightly leaning towards unhealthy. But I have my reasons, I don't do things just because of something. Unless someone made me feel safe and secure enough to completely let go care free. Then I'll throw away those thoughts haha
Thank you for the video
You are very welcome, and thank you for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it
YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT FOX MULDER IS AN INFJ????!!!!! I HAVE MADE IT IN LIFE MSJSKS
Lol! I had the biggest crush on Mulder when I was a teen. It was fun to get to spend a few hours staring at his face while editing this, lol!
No they got him worng hes actually an INFP
I think it's pretty close - he's an ISTP in my humble opinion
This was so cool. Thanks so much! I hope method acting won't be too dangerous..I suspect I am an INFJ all the more now, as well.
Edit: I'm interested even more in the ISTJ, ESTP, and ENFP types. Can't wait to see what comes out tomorrow! This is an awesome channel.
You are very welcome and thank you so much! I will move your requests up on the schedule. I've moved my schedule around starting this week--I've been working on these videos for several months and had a backlog ready to post, but now I am caught up and will be posting this series as I get them done on my normal Tuesday schedule, so it will be a few weeks before the next one but we will get there :) Right now I'm working on the ENTJ video and then, since you were so kind to request them, I will work on your requests :) Thank you again!
@@cynthiapayne9906 Great! I'm sure people will take notice of this, I also notice some of the channels in the description were referenced. Can't wait.
@@swampy2008 I'm so excited to have you here with me! I've been learning a lot as I do these videos, but they're more a way for me to problem-solve a writing issue I'm having. It's so cool to think others are enjoying it :)
I found your channel through the INTP video when I was trying to understand myself better, and I'm so grateful to you for all the time and effort you've put into this series.
This video in particular has helped me understand my best friend, and it feels like you've provided the foundation for me to make a thought structure through which I can facilitate highly effective communication with her.
Edit: I showed her this comment and asked her to translate my INTP ramblings into English, and she said, "Thanks for teaching me how to connect with people better." 😂
Thank you so much for your comment, it made me smile.
If you've enjoyed the foundational info structure of my videos, then I'd encourage you to check out CS Joseph's channel (link in description). All the character typing and the presentation here is my own, but the actual information and system is his.
And I completely understand your 'ramblings' lol! I've been using these videos as a way to more systematically develop characters in my fictional stories, but I'm finding it's helping me to "speak people" a lot better, too :) Thanks so much for watching.
@@cynthiapayne9906 Yeah i've been watching his videos after finding them through your channel, and I had a little nerdgasm when I saw all the complexity I could sink my teeth into 😂
His stuff is great for all the details, but the way you look at each type through the lens of character development is really effective at expressing the point to a broader audience, regardless of what function they're using to gather information. My ESFP brother really appreciated being able to see examples instead of listening to CS Joseph's explanation of the theory behind it.
@@BeinIan Thank you! I describe his system as "not a rabbit hole, but a colony of rabbit holes" to others and it really is. It's always nice to hear that my interpretation/presentation is useful in and of itself rather than just nicely dressed plagiarism, so thank you for that.
And I am so stealing 'nerdgasm' and am going to impatiently wait for any flimsy excuse to use it, lol!
@@cynthiapayne9906 Let's call it a trade, cuz i'm totally stealing that "colony of rabbit holes" analogy!
I can tell that there's a lot of editing to do for these videos, so if you want to outsource any of that work for the rest of the series I'd be happy to help! I find this stuff super interesting so I'm probably going to start making videos on this topic too, once I have a more complete understanding of the subject.
@@BeinIan Subscribed! Will love to see what you come up with! And that is super nice of you, but the editing is the part I like the most, lol! Thanks anyway :)
Interesting video, thank you 💛🙏🏻 I really would like to see, what characters you will analyze as INFP or ENFJ!
Me too! I generally keep a tentative list of characters I think fit the types as I go, but I don't finalize the examples until I've written the script and recorded it (unless the script involves a particular character example, like Dumbledore). I'm still learning as I go, so my typing skills are still in their infancy. Glad you enjoyed it!
Obviously I'm super late on this video and hopefully nobody has made this point before (tried to read as many comments as possible to make sure) but Dumbledore did have a stronger reason to give Harry to the Dursleys than the whole fame thing. There was a blood charm that protected Harry so long as he was around his mother's kin frequently enough. There's a lot of stipulations to this and I think JK might've just tacked it on so people would stop asking why Dumbledore let Harry live with these horrible people, but still, it's a valid enough reason.
Couldn't help but nitpick that one thing but I loved the video as a whole. Very helpful in developing my INFJ character. Also good to see some villainous INFJ characters instead of the usual endless barrage of cinnamon roll sweethearts (because all feelers are obviously good and all thinkers are obviously evil)
Thank you! And thanks for knit picking--it keeps me honest ;)
That blood charm is so problematic and supposed to be so powerful while also being kind of useless. I think it's a case of something making way more sense to the author than it makes to anyone else. The charm works to protect Harry from Voldy while in proximity to his aunt's house so long as he is underage and calls his aunt's house "home". This could only be done because of the protection Lily gave Harry when she died to protect him, versus the zero protection James gave Harry when he died to protect Lilly and Harry (another problematic spell rule, but I digress), so it had to be a blood relative of Lily's. Even buying all of that, the Death Eaters knew the general location of the Dursley's home and only had to wait around for them to pop off the the mall to be out of the sphere of protection, and the abuse Harry suffered was bad enough that he popped off himself several times on-page just to get away, so how many times did he go off on his own off-page? It's a big hole. Pretty sure it wasn't the charm that protected Harry for 15 years--it was the fact that the Death Eaters believed Voldy to be dead and so went about their own lives instead of continuing his work. This is pretty much spelled out in Goblet of Fire when Voldy bitches out all his Death Eaters for abandoning him. Harry wasn't kept alive because of Dumbledore's charm, he was kept alive because no one was trying to kill him. I can see an argument for leaving the child in the Dursley's care until it's clear this is the case, maybe even a year with no Voldy activity, but why inflict the rest of the abuse on the kid?
I'm pretty sure that this situation was brought about from narrative necessity--your protagonist in this sort of story HAS to be a normal kid your audience can identify with and who experiences this new, fantastical world right along with your readers. So, for the world of Harry Potter, Harry HAD to grow up in a Muggle home. And for the sake of later plot points, he HAD to have no real allegiance or loyalty to the Muggle world. So, that means Harry HAD to be from an abusive, loveless home he would easily leave behind. But, of course, this causes all kinds of problems. Now, obviously, in a pass-fail test this charm spell passes with flying colors--the fact we're talking about it more than 20 years after it was published proves that. A lot of holes pop up in the narrative making sure Harry grows up in a Muggle home, and all of them cast Dumbledore in a poor light, but it all does fit well with an INFJ character. It's not the only time it happens. I'm real suspicious about his treatment of Sirius and Dumbledore giving evidence of him being the secret-keeper on the spell Dumpledore cast to put him in prison for 12 years. (This was, apparently, cleared up in a single conversation 12 years later???) Sirius was Harry's legal guardian. And Dumbledore had Harry on the Dursley's doorstep hours after the attack and with full knowledge *somehow* of how Harry had survived. If I were not so convinced it was narrative necessity that put Harry in a Muggle home, I'd be convinced Dumbledore had some other motive for getting Harry to the Dursleys besides protecting him. Thanks for watching!
Ive taken the test twice and gotten both INFJ and INFP and I feel i fit both types at diffrent parts of my life. I fall more into INFP when I was under great stress and in an abusive sitation but as I gained confidence I become more of an INFJ
INFJ and INFPs are notoriously typed as the other. It's a big problem and leads to a lot of confusion. If you'd like, I'd suggest checking out CS Joseph's online test. You have to give an email but it's free and it's the sort of test that you can skip around on and only answer the questions you're sure about. It figures out the rest from there. Thanks for watching!
look up the cognitive functions
This is literally my exact same situation!!!
ISFP is worth looking into as well. I'd recommend checking out Cognitive Personality Theory
that was a good informative entertaining video, i liked it.
I have learned to share my plans more, i am now learning how to show boundaries better and be honest about them sooner. A lot of times people do not understand my boundaries even if i directly communicate what those boundaries are, they simply dont see it nor understand it even if i explain. I do have quite some friends and i do have good connections with them, but i only know 2 people at most who truly understand me, cause they can speak my doctor who special language of multilayered speech in 1 word and one of them will most probs leave my life soon, which saddens me deeply, but i know she needs to move on.
My dark side or my "demonic" side is comparable with Sans in undertale at the end of the genocide route and a bad time starts to happen. I have broken a lot of people that way multiple times after they crossed boundaries so far that even telling them my boundaries and them ignoring it brought the worst outside of me. After that though i am down for months and very depressed and sad at those moments. (men and women) People are still surprised about the fact that i know things about them even without them telling me those deep layered secrets.
I also have shut doors with a lot of people in the past, i am learning better now how to deal with a lot of those situations, but its a path that keeps going. I do have my own morality, but it does most of the time go against the morality of the group, reason is the bigger picture (which is true).
I make big plans for a lot of people and create jobs of them, even am giving rise to the polar opposite of this days top down economy, i am with a group of people busy making a bottom up style economy that is local scaled. Its the polar opposite of this days globalistic idea, which i do not agree with. When i feel my job is done with this though, i will simply write fuck tons of books about many things. I love helping people, but i have learned that taking care of myself is such a difficult and time consuming job that it takes up most of my time when i grow more into it.
There's so much clean and helpfully woven into this video, that it would be sad to pick at the lint. And, I would guess that those braving such content are sure to face the worst in us as we claim "that character is not an INFJ!" So, with those apologetic beginnings, I am commenting to wonder why Daenerys (based on visual series as I've never read Martin) might be a good representation of INFJ. It's true she sometimes displays like one, but even more often I suspect she may be on the Fi/Te axis ...and that a ruler as INFJ might have a more dynamic, delegated, interactive and collaborative admin/council team? No assertions here - just questions - and thanks for the video.
A perfectly reasonable critique and I thank you for taking the time to comment! You are lovely.
I did consider Fi/Te for Dany, and she does occasionally make an argument for it, but she makes an argument for Fe/Ti far, far more often. Her primary way of solving problems is to utilize the people around her, not by recognizing their objective strengths and appealing to those directly, but by leveraging their loyalties and emotions. It's as easy to her as breathing. The woman knows how to work a crowd and she does it often.
Her sense of morals and ethics is entirely based on the empathy she feels for those who have been victimized by a particular crime--her sense of morality and ethics is not objective, it's subjective. Now, this can manifest as Fi in a very immature individual, but Dany is not immature despite being so young. The only two things she seems to draw a strong moral line in the sand against is rape and slavery--two things she experienced intimately and has continually reinforced to her through those around her. Her first handmaids are former brothel slaves. Everything else is fair game so long as it's not against "good people." For instance, Dany does not believe that it's wrong to nail people to posts and let them slowly die of exposure and dehydration, because she does exactly that as retribution against those who nailed people to posts and let them die slowly of exposure and dehydration. She does not believe it is wrong to feed people to her dragons for nonviolent crimes. She does not believe it is wrong to burn people alive for striking back against those who raped and enslaved them--she just believes it's wrong to do these things to "certain people" i.e, to people she cares about; to people she is capable of empathizing with. Some of this is a reflection of the brutality of the environment she's in, but it's still there. She lacks a sufficiently emotionally well-rounded education for her to be able to empathize from both sides--something INFJs need to be able to do to be able to make sense of the larger picture.
I have no doubt she will get there in time, but she is very young and just hasn't had that time.
As for her leadership style, I'd argue she does have a pretty good sized cabinet going. Remember--her rise to power is incredibly fast. She collects advisors as she goes and this number swells the more time that goes by, it's just not a whole lot of time has gone by (roughly five years for the first seven seasons). We do see her delegate entire cities to her trustees when she decides to go cross the sea and she delegates a lot of authority to her Hand.
Add into that equation that INFJs can be quite paranoid about the intentions of others and are reluctant to trust them, and I'd argue she's doing pretty good for a woman in her early 20s (they aged her up for the show. In the books she starts out being 13, in the show 17).
Anyway, that's the thought process I went through, but I'm always up to hear other perspectives if you have a different thought process. I'm learning as I go and that's the whole point of these videos for me :)
Please do an ENFJ one next!!
You're on the list! There are a few ahead of you, but you're on there! Thanks for watching :)
Most confrontational video i've ever heard
Very well done video! Could you please do an ENFP one? I’d love to hear your insights on that type.
I've added your vote to the tally! Thanks for watching :)
well this was a great self learning experience
I'm so glad you enjoyed it :)
The dark night of the soul comes just before revelation. When everything is lost, and all seems darkness, then comes the new life and all that is needed.
Please do an INTJ Character Development. This should be good
I love it
Thank you!
Communication is creative...
straight heading to the plug,
whether plug or unplug the situation...wow feel like God...no just kidding is just counsellor style
4:46 this drives me crazy!! I have to say to myself, that's enough STOP!!😂
I feel a little disoriented because i had been mistyped for several years and until recently i realized i was actually an INFJ and thats why i was so miserable when i was trying to “better myself” as another type.
This makes much more sense to me but now i need to develop myself the right way. Its gonna be a long journey
Edit: if anyone cares, this is how i found out;
So when i first took the test 4 years ago, i took the not-too-accurate 16personalities test and got INFP and i was like “hmm ok?”
And I forgot about it. But about a year ago, i wanted to better myself because i was dealing with a lot of mental illness (still am) and i checked out the same test and got INFP again and accepted it. I spent a lot of time researching INFP and trying to better myself but something always felt off.
One day i was on a character personality type site reading about my favorite character who i related more than any other character ive had the pleasure of experiencing and someone commented that he wasnt INFP but rather INFJ. And i answered that person justifying why i thought he was actually INFP. But after talking back and forth she told me more about how the cognitive functions worked. But the thing that snapped the final gear in place was that she said its impossible for a type to have such an undeveloped dominant function (Fi in this case) and thats when it hit me. My “Fi” was terribly ‘undeveloped’. I took the test again on different sites that actually checked for cognitive functions and got INFJ. Yikes lol
Im thinking that a possible reason why INFJs are so rare is because they might be mistyped
INFJ and INFPs tend to get mistyped as the other quite often. It's a big problem and it leads to a lot of confusion on both a type level and an individual level. I'm sorry you've had to deal with that.
If this video seemed to fit for you, then I'd recommend checking out CS Joseph's channel (link in description). This series is based off of his work and he has a huge library of INFJ material, including how to laser in on how you can grow as an INFJ. He also has his own test (csjoseph.life) based on his 4-sides system. Best of luck and thanks for watching!
@@cynthiapayne9906 thank you! I appreciate it :)
I'd highly recommend checking out Cognitive Personality Theory. Many, many people mistype as INFJ based off invalid online tests and inaccurate type descriptions who are in fact ISFPs for the most part. CPT is a highly fluid multidimensional take on Jungs original work plus Harry who developed it is an INFJ which will give you an idea as to whether you have a similar cognition or not
My husband and sister are INFJ, my brother INTP. I f*ing feel like I'm the only one open about my emotions and I'm a god damn INTJ. The world we live in ladies and gentlemen ~flips table.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
I really like these Videos.. I ope to see ENFP soon
My people takes my inner thoughts/secret/wounds in a casual way when I'm trying to share,like they are nothing and like I'm being dramatic. yeah i guess i'm being dramatic for having late night mental breakdown!!
This makes me want to watch the X-files, amazon prime should pay you for the plug :D
Watching the X-files is always a good idea ;)
Wow I never related so much, even the hard truths
Oh my goodness…the part about INFJs declaring the blunt truths through humor…I feel terribly exposed. I thought I was the only one who did that…🙈
6:25
I don't know much but that is a more intj thing than an infj
But yes when we do that we certainly try hard to make up to the wrongs we did
22:55 that's is actually very very true...
All the things about Dumbledore was very relatable and actually true....
That was a really interesting video~ thank you for doing these! Could you do INFP?
(Also, I saw another user make a comment about wanting the videos shorter... Well, I personally love your long in-depth analysis of the characters, so it's totally fine imo. Just randomly adding that^^;)
Well thank you so much! What a nice comment to wake up to :) I think you're the second person to request INFP, so it's definitely getting moved up, lol! I'm working on the ISTJ, then I'll do another extrovert, and unless there is some mass voting spree, I'll be starting on that one :) I think they're just going to end up being longer than I'd anticipated--even when I try to keep them down it's like they have other ideas, lol! But I'm glad you enjoy the longer format. Thanks again!
@@cynthiapayne9906 No worries~ do what you think is personally best :) And, Thank You. I look forward to your future videos of the other types.
I agree I love these in depth lots of short ones elsewhere.
Mulder is INFP (Fi Ne Si Te). Chris Carter, X Files' producter is INFJ (Ni Fe Ti Se)
I am sorry to hear this. I am an infj- you can share with me 😂💕
6:21 wow i have never heard ppl discussing that aspect of infj.
it is true. i will be very intrested in discussing innerworkings of something widely acceptable as much as of something that is taboo... it feels like a part of the world is blocked by humanity and it seems sad to me, like a lost opportunity to understand. but at the same time i press myself to be okay with it, because maybe i'm wrong and taboos are actually a good evolutionary tool for stability in a population, like, to prevent horrific ideas from coming to others and spreading or something.
but, seriously, i strongly believe that if i in my lifetime would come across and had to talk to people that hold amorality or convictions that are clearly shit close to their heart, i would be able to not be phased by it (depends on how threatened i am at the moment, but still). i had the experience of talking to some with shit convictions about said shit convictions. i can say i felt stable and okay (and i was certain i was safe), just frustrated a bit at them internaly, because they refuse to see objective reality (it was about homophobia, misoginy and transphobia - the baseline of it that they denied to be true) and just continue to rely on things they've learned.
but. it's a lil' bit dangerous because these things can get into your head. like, as a teen for a time i had a phase of "please can you explain why the strong should help the weak if evolution doesn't like the weak? are we sabotaging ourselves?" i understood that there was something wrong with it, but couldn't get what exactly for a long. time. AND i had to figure it out MYSELF because who the fuck are you gonna talk about it with? no one in my social circle at the time, 100%.
i am still so "accepting" that sometimes on topics i see discussed on the internet i can get behind the wrong thing. i am not educated in a lot of things and it's scary not to be.
18:09 on some level - yeah. i definitely want to be that way.
if you are writing infj character, the communication style can be influenced by other things, like prior long-term relationship history, be it of a partner or parent and they tent to overwrite the base communication style.
20:10 YES. 100%
example: if a peer gives me answers to a test and there is a certainty/high or medium risk that i will have to explain it to the teacher, i will never just learn the words to repeat them. i will have to understand them and tuck them neatly in my mind so that i can manuever them as if i did the task without help.
25:52 omg okay i see what you mean and i see how incredibly infj this kinda thing is
and i am horrified but excited at the sheer potential of the characters like that in the stories! but like! holy shit. omfg. some very misguided version of me could do some version of this. and it's surreal to understand, it feels like barfing after stepping through the looking-glass
In many ways we are or become the main characters of the stories. When we are evolved ones we are good & the un-evolved ones for not so good...just as "any" other personalities types too. Every personality types has the good ones & the bad ones, it all depends how much work they have put on themselves.
So it's just a matter of which one when people encounter an Infj person, it's actually dealing with after all....and that people have to learn to discern themselves in which btw...it takes time & efforts 👌 😉😘
Thank uuu
You're welcome!
I'm grateful for this because now I feel like I understand myself a little more
Well that's just the best comment ever. Thank you so much :D
Been struggling with morality and erasing the idea of God and bad. Dumbledore was the perfect example
At least this for the use of story telling. It's always just a little off when non-INFJ explains what an INFJ is. There's alot of understanding here, but alot missing also. There's alot of validity and integrity in this information so I respect it for story telling perception purposes. But if a human tried to approach an INFJ with this outlook they'd probably be in for a battle they didn't know they signed up for ;)
How about an INFP? Love these I am an INFJ married to an ESFP our daughters are INFP and INTJ they have all been very accurate.
Awesome! I will add your vote to the tally. I'm glad your family has been enjoying them :)
u made my day 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm so glad :)
I am in a relationship with an entj and i am a intj , there ate some things after seven years I realize I cant tell my partner cause he feels the need to share it with everyone even those closest to him, so I do understand what it means to keep a secret cause I like to close off the possibility if something going wrong happens.
19:33 so true
That humor section is exactly why as a black woman, random strangers assume I’m a mean girl. And I’m like 🤨
Finally someone called out Dumbledore 🤧
Ok we don't just analyze ideas..we have to see if the ideas are real by seeing how people are reacting to the invisible construct upon which they act and react. In this way we have to pay attention to the real world.
Like words
Words don't mean much to us.
Im writing a story of a group of friends with supernatural abilities trying to adapt to a post apocalyptic world. They are an enfp,isfj,entj and a intp what do you think about that dynamic and what would you say about it?
Sounds like a ton of fun :) I sense a love triangle happening with the entj, intp, and isfj. Also, lots of fun what-the-f-is-wrong-with-you conflict between the intp and enfp
@@cynthiapayne9906 wow thank you so much!
Son's of anarchy - Jax
cliff longlands ,yes I agree that true INFJ boys must be brought up in a home that abuses them , I can say this from experience ,Ha Ha . It leads to a suspicious and independent and analytical character .thanks cliff
I really wish Jon Snow stopped getting overshadowed by Daenerys as an INFJ. Jon is absolutely the real deal, whereas many have typed Dany as an ENFJ? Love this video though. Great job!
Thank you, and thanks for watching! To me, Dany is just way too good at rolling with the punches to be an ENFJ. She doesn't try to shape her environment to her ideal so much as she uses what is presented to her and does the best she can with it, if that makes any sense. Dany never seems to feel insecure that she's wrong or that she's not smart enough, but she does worry that she's not doing enough for her people (Se inferior). I'm learning as I go with these, though, so I could certainly be wrong with some of my typings :) And I do love John Snow (he is the bomb), but I've got him in my notes as an INFP. I haven't done his full typing yet, but that man just seems way too loyal to not have Si/Ne. Dany does things because she wants to do them (Ni), while John does things because he should do them (Si). He wants to join the Night's Watch (in my interpretation) because he is insecure about what others think of him and he sees it as a way to earn a reputation in an honorable way (see his face in season 1 every time someone refers to him as "Bastard"). Once he's there, someone has to point out to him that he's not making any friends by being the best at swordplay. He's the best and he wants others to see him as the best, but someone has to point out to him that those around him are not seeing the situation like that. An INFJ, with high Fe, would instinctually understand the interpersonal dynamics at play there. The results are the same--John decides to help his colleagues learn to be better swordfighters and thus gains allies, but that little dynamic had to be pointed out to him. He was expecting others to respect him and think highly of him because of his obvious skill alone--not because of what he chose to do with them. Does that make sense? And I'd love to hear your thoughts, if you still disagree :)
@@cynthiapayne9906 good thoughts, thank you! I'm wondering if the difference between Jon and Dany might be that Dany is INFJ-A and Jon is INFJ-T? I still think that Jon is an INFJ and perhaps it's the environmental factors of how they were raised that makes their approach seem different.
@@cynthiapayne9906 P.S. im worried that in my original comment, my critical point overshadowed how much i love this video. It's one of the best ive watched on my personality type, and for once I actually watched the whole thing from start to end :)
Oh, not at all--I am fully aware of my newness to all of this and went into this series knowing I'd make mistakes. I'm here to learn, just like you, so if I made a mistake I'd like to know about it, lol! The enneagrams are admittedly something I know zero about, so I can't offer anything there. I know that in the MBTI community there is a lot of controversy about INFPs/INFJs, something about the test often identifying one type as another and vice versa. I would encourage you to watch CS Joseph's (link in description) INFJs Compare to INFPs video. His 4-sides system is what my videos are based on (I just made the info pretty) and hopefully that will better explain why I see these two characters as completely different types. Thanks again and I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
@@cynthiapayne9906 awesome thanks! The majority of people close to me are INFP so this will be interesting!
I can take any person or subject anything and bring how it could go negative.in one way or the other.. that all you are doing so you what kind of person does that.because i am some of those negatives very few and some ,some of the time.the way you put your thoughts out there.and all those negative you mention can be anyone.. but not every one cares about people like empatnhs ,such as narcisists ..witch I bet you are.
INFJs are Ni-Ti convergents, they're primarily abstract rationalists; they're logically not emotionally predictive and hence aren't empaths.