Thanks for these, I probably read HG Wells too young to see any message, other than to just enjoy the stories. As I grew older, and as you mention the Star Trek (for me Next Generation) the messages were clear though. I think I need to re-read the Wells books sat before me!
Fascinating presentation, on the lighter side I really liked the yellow gremlin character in the background kind of reminds me of the “Tudors Richard iii” thank you so much for this wonderful and thoughtful presentation
Went on a frantic search the other week as I recalled your account but not the name of it!! Scrolled through my entire subscription list just to find it lmao. Well worth the effort, you’re so underrated as a creator. Thanks for the great video!!
I recently came across your channel and I'm glad I did as your content on Yorkshire ( my ancestral home on my late father's side of the family) is amazing as well as your expansion of historical subject matter and progress as a creator . I greatly admire your engaging manner, informative descriptions and perspectives along with your creative talent and sense of humor. Looking forward to your future videos! Best wishes to you and yours.
An excellent video . I could listen to an audio book of the Time Machine read by Catherine , a great voice . A brilliant bit of John Lennon brings it to a superb conclusion.Thank you
A'reyt Catherine. I really enjoyed this as the first film was a childhood favourite and this video was a good follow up to the War of the Worlds one you did.
Another brilliant analysis. The same problem here as W.O.W. Wells had something profound to say and people who read his novels (then and now) were largely intellectuals looking to explore ideas. The maker of movies have pretty much one intention: Make money. The general public has little want or desire to deal heady notions about Morality, Justice, Ethics, Human Psychology, Political Science or Historical analysis. Try pushing a movie with that kind of material and in most cases you will be going to the bank empty handed. I think the 1960's version was probably the best overall of the various film versions. At least it did deal with Warmongering. I don't think anyone in The West would dare today. There was one other thing in this movie I thought interesting and I think it was a commentary on evolving morals. The scene where the protagonist rescues the drowning girl and everyone is indifferent to her drowning and her rescue including the girl herself. They all seem to be very self centered and hedonistic and contemptuous of knowledge as when he asks about books. Anyway Keep up the great work look forward to seeing more of your insightful analysis.
Excellent video. It should be shown in schools. I read the Time Machine when I was at school along with some of H G. Wells' other books, but it is by far my favourite. I, too, feel the message has been lost in the screen adaptations and would love an adaptation to actually deal with the real themes of the novel. Wells was a socialist, as am I, but it's something that I rarely hear, mentioned even though it is important to his work.
I think I already commented this on another video, but I want to see Catherine cast as the Doctor. Her outfits are already on point. And now she's even got a time machine. In fact I am not fully convinced that she is not a powerful time travel from Gallifrey
Thank you for a thoughtful piece. As a child I watched both the original Time machine and read the book; also watched original Star Trek as re-runs in 1970's/80's Australia - all without much thought for the deeper messages or implications. The Time Machine as a novel has stood the test of time, whereas Star Trek much less so. Classic ST, while there is a theme of progress and hope, I look at it now, after much more life experience, as a piece of typical American cold-war cultural imperialism using spaceships. Strangely I have more time for ST-TNG. I think it is high time I read TTM again.
I agree, TNG is a lot clearer in its social vision. I think ST-TOS is very variable, episode to episode. DC Fontana's episodes are some of the most political and, for me, some of the very best
I'm always frustrated about the fact that the Time Machine Adaptations always exclude the far future. The closest thing to a adaptation of that is Future is Wild. Pd: LOVE your time machine!
It is very disturbing to think of our world 1000 years from now, or 10,000 years from now. It will be unimaginably different, and not for the better, I think.
Nice analysis, so many times we look at the entertainment value without consideration of the true story the author is trying to convey. there has always been a wealth gap and likely always will be however it seems to be rapidly increasing. Eventually that will have consequences. Love your time machine design, 🤣😆keep up the good work!
Having just read the book last night ' I agree there is a powerful social / economic message in it . The writing style is very similar to War Of The Worlds . I would say there is a very strong Darwinian aspect to it . His influence was very strong in the late 19th century . In deed by the Great War 20 years later ; it was obvious that working class deprivation ; had led to undernourished population not really fit to fight . This is well documented . Before that even major surveys by Booth and Chadwick in early Victorian era had uncovered the effects of poverty . In modern times we see the large increase in child poverty and associated crime and ill health . Due to austerity and massive wealth inequality . In the story the wealthy have become the almost useless Elois . In that respect it reminds of the vapid Chelsea set who have no real interests or pursuits but spend there lives in frivolous pursuit of pleasure . Buying expensive stuff ; no intellectual endeavour or worthwhile human goals quite pitiful really .
When pushed to think about it (cheers btw) it's difficult to summon to mind any popular general audience (read: 'Hollywood') film that makes any serious attempt at class analysis. ... Muppets' Christmas Carrol?
Muppets' Christmas Carol = Best Christmas Carol. I agree, Hollywood's treatment of class systems is pretty minimal compared to that of the UK film and TV industry, and when the Hollywood establishment does recognise and acclaim such themes it is often a film which comes from outside the USA, thinking of films like Parasite in 2019, Everything Everywhere All At Once in 2022, Mad Max:Fury Road in 2015 and District 9 in 2008 . However I don't think it's a theme entirely missing from popular US cinema. Arguably The Hunger Games is a class critique, and that did well.
In the future, the far distance future, we'll be able to spin Christmas tinsel around and around and around... 😁🚴 Great video, lots of interesting points, I've never read the book, but I can see all the references to modern social conditions are gone in the film... BUT I've always thought there seem to be a lot of 'problems' with the film as a 'Capitalism is Bad' point of view. The underground Warlocks have all the power and are living off the lives of the Eloi (literally), yet the Warlocks are the one's operating the machines and working in terrible conditions. The Warlocks are extremely basic and seem to not value self-fulfilment art / culture / leisure, but instead, they actively get down & dirty with the daily brutality. They are more like the evil man employed to run the Victorian Factory for slightly more money than the Workers, rather than the Capitalism Factory Owners / millionaires, who can just turn a blind eye to unfair practices by employing other to do the dirty work. The Eloi live a shorter life with a sudden ending, BUT live a happy life of privilege and never work a day in thier lives! All said, I'd rather be an Eloi every time!! 😎 Fun Times.
Well you got me to relook at War Of The Worlds ; so maybe I might look out the Time Machine >the fact the " working class " keep returning ; Tory governments has shown how far they have come from the 40s idealism ; of a fairer more inclusive society . I have definitely seen the 60s film and have the second film on DVD , not sure if I ever watched it or maybe it was so poor it didn't make any impression on me
Nice analysis.
Excellent. Informative, thoughtful and very well presented. Thank you Catherine.
Thanks for these, I probably read HG Wells too young to see any message, other than to just enjoy the stories. As I grew older, and as you mention the Star Trek (for me Next Generation) the messages were clear though. I think I need to re-read the Wells books sat before me!
Excellent video. Reminds me of that Alan Kay quotte, 'The best way to predict the future is to invent it.' Thank you for posting.
Thank you great synopsis of HG Wells the Time Machine
communitarian northern values and reciprocity.. a great lens Catherine. Scholarly witty . excellent history interpretations
Another excellent video! It refreshing to see the still relevant class issues being discussed.
First (Always wanted to say that!)
Edit: Excellent video!
Fascinating presentation, on the lighter side I really liked the yellow gremlin character in the background kind of reminds me of the “Tudors Richard iii” thank you so much for this wonderful and thoughtful presentation
Well done lass, keep up the good work 👍👍
Went on a frantic search the other week as I recalled your account but not the name of it!! Scrolled through my entire subscription list just to find it lmao. Well worth the effort, you’re so underrated as a creator. Thanks for the great video!!
I recently came across your channel and I'm glad I did as your content on Yorkshire ( my ancestral home on my late father's side of the family) is amazing as well as your expansion of historical subject matter and progress as a creator . I greatly admire your engaging manner, informative descriptions and perspectives along with your creative talent and sense of humor. Looking forward to your future videos! Best wishes to you and yours.
Fun fact HG Wells is my distinct relative
An excellent video . I could listen to an audio book of the Time Machine read by Catherine , a great voice . A brilliant bit of John Lennon brings it to a superb conclusion.Thank you
Brilliantly put 👏 . I've read the book and completely agree 👍
A'reyt Catherine. I really enjoyed this as the first film was a childhood favourite and this video was a good follow up to the War of the Worlds one you did.
Mr Warr should get that Time Machine design on the market
Wow! Brilliant analysis, fair play to you.😎
Great stuff, Catherine! Very timely.
Great stuff as always
Another brilliant analysis. The same problem here as W.O.W. Wells had something profound to say and people who read his novels (then and now) were largely intellectuals looking to explore ideas. The maker of movies have pretty much one intention: Make money. The general public has little want or desire to deal heady notions about Morality, Justice, Ethics, Human Psychology, Political Science or Historical analysis. Try pushing a movie with that kind of material and in most cases you will be going to the bank empty handed. I think the 1960's version was probably the best overall of the various film versions. At least it did deal with Warmongering. I don't think anyone in The West would dare today. There was one other thing in this movie I thought interesting and I think it was a commentary on evolving morals. The scene where the protagonist rescues the drowning girl and everyone is indifferent to her drowning and her rescue including the girl herself. They all seem to be very self centered and hedonistic and contemptuous of knowledge as when he asks about books. Anyway Keep up the great work look forward to seeing more of your insightful analysis.
Excellent video. It should be shown in schools.
I read the Time Machine when I was at school along with some of H G. Wells' other books, but it is by far my favourite.
I, too, feel the message has been lost in the screen adaptations and would love an adaptation to actually deal with the real themes of the novel.
Wells was a socialist, as am I, but it's something that I rarely hear, mentioned even though it is important to his work.
I think I already commented this on another video, but I want to see Catherine cast as the Doctor. Her outfits are already on point. And now she's even got a time machine. In fact I am not fully convinced that she is not a powerful time travel from Gallifrey
that orange and brown scarf needs to be aired again
Very good video Catherine .
Thank you for a thoughtful piece. As a child I watched both the original Time machine and read the book; also watched original Star Trek as re-runs in 1970's/80's Australia - all without much thought for the deeper messages or implications. The Time Machine as a novel has stood the test of time, whereas Star Trek much less so. Classic ST, while there is a theme of progress and hope, I look at it now, after much more life experience, as a piece of typical American cold-war cultural imperialism using spaceships. Strangely I have more time for ST-TNG. I think it is high time I read TTM again.
I agree, TNG is a lot clearer in its social vision. I think ST-TOS is very variable, episode to episode. DC Fontana's episodes are some of the most political and, for me, some of the very best
Great video!
I'm always frustrated about the fact that the Time Machine Adaptations always exclude the far future. The closest thing to a adaptation of that is Future is Wild.
Pd: LOVE your time machine!
The Future Is Wild is a new one for me. I see it's available here on RUclips so will check it out
It is very disturbing to think of our world 1000 years from now, or 10,000 years from now. It will be unimaginably different, and not for the better, I think.
Nice analysis, so many times we look at the entertainment value without consideration of the true story the author is trying to convey. there has always been a wealth gap and likely always will be however it seems to be rapidly increasing. Eventually that will have consequences.
Love your time machine design,
🤣😆keep up the good work!
Having just read the book last night ' I agree there is a powerful social / economic message in it . The writing style is very similar to War Of The Worlds . I would say there is a very strong Darwinian aspect to it . His influence was very strong in the late 19th century . In deed by the Great War 20 years later ; it was obvious that working class deprivation ; had led to undernourished population not really fit to fight . This is well documented . Before that even major surveys by Booth and Chadwick in early Victorian era had uncovered the effects of poverty . In modern times we see the large increase in child poverty and associated crime and ill health . Due to austerity and massive wealth inequality . In the story the wealthy have become the almost useless Elois . In that respect it reminds of the vapid Chelsea set who have no real interests or pursuits but spend there lives in frivolous pursuit of pleasure . Buying expensive stuff ; no intellectual endeavour or worthwhile human goals quite pitiful really .
Second!!! i'm always that!!!!
When pushed to think about it (cheers btw) it's difficult to summon to mind any popular general audience (read: 'Hollywood') film that makes any serious attempt at class analysis.
...
Muppets' Christmas Carrol?
Muppets' Christmas Carol = Best Christmas Carol.
I agree, Hollywood's treatment of class systems is pretty minimal compared to that of the UK film and TV industry, and when the Hollywood establishment does recognise and acclaim such themes it is often a film which comes from outside the USA, thinking of films like Parasite in 2019, Everything Everywhere All At Once in 2022, Mad Max:Fury Road in 2015 and District 9 in 2008 . However I don't think it's a theme entirely missing from popular US cinema. Arguably The Hunger Games is a class critique, and that did well.
In the future, the far distance future, we'll be able to spin Christmas tinsel around and around and around... 😁🚴
Great video, lots of interesting points, I've never read the book, but I can see all the references to modern social conditions are gone in the film... BUT I've always thought there seem to be a lot of 'problems' with the film as a 'Capitalism is Bad' point of view.
The underground Warlocks have all the power and are living off the lives of the Eloi (literally), yet the Warlocks are the one's operating the machines and working in terrible conditions.
The Warlocks are extremely basic and seem to not value self-fulfilment art / culture / leisure, but instead, they actively get down & dirty with the daily brutality. They are more like the evil man employed to run the Victorian Factory for slightly more money than the Workers, rather than the Capitalism Factory Owners / millionaires, who can just turn a blind eye to unfair practices by employing other to do the dirty work.
The Eloi live a shorter life with a sudden ending, BUT live a happy life of privilege and never work a day in thier lives! All said, I'd rather be an Eloi every time!! 😎 Fun Times.
Good points! The implicit economics of the Eloi / Worlock binary society are not terribly well thought through by Wells
@@harryspeakup8452 Nice to know at least one person read my post - thank you! 😄👍
Well you got me to relook at War Of The Worlds ; so maybe I might look out the Time Machine >the fact the " working class " keep returning ; Tory governments has shown how far they have come from the 40s idealism ; of a fairer more inclusive society . I have definitely seen the 60s film and have the second film on DVD , not sure if I ever watched it or maybe it was so poor it didn't make any impression on me