As Bart as said in his previous videos, the backdoor club draw coming in would make me believe there would be a pause for him to think about an appropriate value bet. The fact it was a snap jam tends to make me believe it is more likely now that it's a bluff.
Bart, I was told by a dealer at encore tonight that they abruptly brought back free drinks as a direct response to your video. Amazing kudos to you for leadership and impactful publicity.
I would say QT clubs is a call on the flop closing the action especially with Hero's bet sizing, which goes back to the point you made about larger bet sizing on the flop.
Protip: players that raise blind have already proven they've got unnecessary gamble in their game. That usually means that they're capable of clicking buttons even in the most underbluffed spots but most people will still always have it, even these guys so be careful!
I have opponents in my game who'd take this line with the Ac,X all day. Its good to follow conversations on the table to determine if people talk about blockers and really understand them too.
It’s also less of a self-selected hand since he’s the blind raiser. I would lean more toward a suited in clubs villain if he had voluntarily put $ in, instead of blind raising. Stealing may have been the plan the entire hand and when the back door hit, perfect opportunity for villain to steal. Another likely is AcX?.
I think in the past I would have taken a similar line as Hero here. After going through some training sites, I think I would go 1/2 pot on flop and b150 on turn to set up a pot sized shove on river. In this case, it worked out anyways that stacks were able to get in.
Yeah I think all good players went through a stage where they thought playing theory was always best but you gotta take advantage of these fish to really make your win rate blow up, and live is 90% fish at least
Always remember that the villain is counting on his image to provide some additional fold equity when he makes these plays. He knows that you know that he knows.....
If he’s blind raising 6-handed and he looks down and finds a broadway hand or a suited ace, he’s going to be 3-betting that a lot. I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy had just a gutshot and a plan to bluff on scary runouts.
I didn’t hear it mentioned but wouldn’t Villain play A 10 off suite w/ Ac play this exact line?? I also would’ve called since Hero’s C bet was so small on the flop. Btw awesome hand review, Bart!
As a central coast resident I can confirm actually that the players casino is an odd mixture of a complete dump and a great view. They charge you for water too...
If hero does not call with this hand; what would he call with? The next rank of hand I can find for him as played is a queen high flush. Is that hand even a decision? And snap jams on river seem bluffy.
Im a little confused by Bart’s initial river thinking: I recall his saying the snap-jam is often a weak tell. So I wonder why he said “Yeah but in this case i’m not sure”. What makes this case an exception from the snap jam being weighted towards bluffs? I do think it’s a tough call just on an odds basis. When you have to be right 40%, that’s a tough one, unless the villain is just an OMC. But between the villain being someone who has bluffs, it being the back-door draw with villain over calling a flop bet where he didn’t *have* to defend, and the snap-jam tell, I lean to call but I sure would rather have the club blocker!
You could say the sky is blue and Bart would say "uuuhh i dont know about that, because when you add the smog and the clouds, its really a whiteish blue." He almost always disagrees
Maybe he might even say "Axchoolee...sky is really violet. We simply don't possess the necessary physiology to see its real color." Not sure how good Bart's physics game is tho. So maybe not. 😊
Agreed. The guy blind raised 20. Of course he almost calling pre flop with any decent hand. Then the hero doesn't bet a lot on the flop. Most pre flop raiser will c-bet almost any flop. Then he would pick up a flush draw on the turn with any gutter he may have had on flop. Then gets there and jams the back door which is always difficult for most player to see. Make perfect sense the way thehand played out.
It would be very rare for someone to muck a pair (a sliver of showdown value) in a 5k pot on river. More likely a hand like 109 with zero showdown value.
I agree with this. Bart is looking slat it from a skewed perspective; players in this instance look at the preflop and think "I'm closing the action"...and then on the small bet on the turn same thing, and because they can't be raised, calling $80 into a pot of $340 gives them the reason for saying "eff it I'll draw cheap".
This guys description of the villain is hilarious: “he’s a gambling action player who plays tight preflop but also puts in blind raises and he’s a thinking player” 😂😂😂
@@supersmoo7377 I think the more important thing is that the caller has a description of how this guy plays. He's "not bad" and he plays tight preflop, then loves action during the postflop So he has a tight range...but he also loves to jam. What DOES this guy have with this range that he suddenly decides to jam so hard at the end? I'd say he was sitting on a pocket underpair and set mining...then tried to salvage it at the river
Dumb question, but how do people remember the hand history? Are people taking notes, or... Remembering the runout seems self-explanatory, but id find it hard to remember the betting action.
During a session I take notes of notable hands played and save it to my phone. You could also do a voice record off your phone for analysis with friends/forums later for review.
I would suspect the villain had the Ace or King of clubs...this is why he thought the river shove has good. I would not be surprised if he Ac 3x making two pair of the river...
People literally never fold any pair multi-way even if they should. The more callers before them the more likely they are to call. “Ooohhh the pots bigger if I hit my card i can win more money” I see guys overcall flop here with like J8 trying to make trips or 2p
What villain's image? Is he a decent player who thinks? If so, this is a call. Any thinking player would spend a few seconds to think about how to extract value from backing into a flush. I would've called.
Your video description says "Knowing your opponent's holdings is key to winning in chess..." Do you also make chess videos? Perhaps chess videos where the board is partially obstructed and becomes a game of incomplete information?
I don't think this guy called the all in. I think he folded which is why he doesn't know villains cards. Yeah he may have mucked but he wasn't happy as bart said
👍👍👍 That's a good read!! That's why he delayed his answer at direct Q: "What did you do". Also, he made a basic error: said Hero (mucked), instead of Villain...
That's a great read. Explains how unhappy he sounded. Explains his slip of the tongue when he said hero mucked. He probably got grief from his buddies about it & called it in hoping Bart would say how under bluffed this spot is.
And also you have to call this. This dude is saying he flopped top two with AcQc and rivered a backdoor... and that's the only thing he's tryna say here.
Ridiculous click bait title. Preflop is bad IMO. Not playing unsuited broadway. Flop sizing bad, as mentioned. River shove only represents busted draw, so have to call with top of range.
easy call , by your discription of the player. he would of jamed with a a x clube on turn. its gambling there is not good palyer or bad, just percentage players.
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As Bart as said in his previous videos, the backdoor club draw coming in would make me believe there would be a pause for him to think about an appropriate value bet. The fact it was a snap jam tends to make me believe it is more likely now that it's a bluff.
Bart, I was told by a dealer at encore tonight that they abruptly brought back free drinks as a direct response to your video. Amazing kudos to you for leadership and impactful publicity.
I would say QT clubs is a call on the flop closing the action especially with Hero's bet sizing, which goes back to the point you made about larger bet sizing on the flop.
Protip: players that raise blind have already proven they've got unnecessary gamble in their game. That usually means that they're capable of clicking buttons even in the most underbluffed spots but most people will still always have it, even these guys so be careful!
I have opponents in my game who'd take this line with the Ac,X all day. Its good to follow conversations on the table to determine if people talk about blockers and really understand them too.
I played at the old location several times when I was out there for a project. It was a total dump - I loved it!
The way the caller says "butt ton" 😂
listened to this while away from the computer and was thinking "this kind pronounces button weird" lol
Me walking around listening this trying to replicate it out loud 😅
It's like the titles and thumbnails are a parody of themselves at this point my god. Bart, you're a true artist.
Usually quick action especially on rivers is a bluff. When people hit they usually think about what's the best amount to get max value.
It can also indicate excitement from fishier players
@Jamster Off The Wheel true but how many of those player types are playing at that limit.
_he's like .... tight pre-flop_ WHO? Blind raiser!
It’s also less of a self-selected hand since he’s the blind raiser. I would lean more toward a suited in clubs villain if he had voluntarily put $ in, instead of blind raising. Stealing may have been the plan the entire hand and when the back door hit, perfect opportunity for villain to steal. Another likely is AcX?.
AcTx makes a lot of sense.
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I think in the past I would have taken a similar line as Hero here. After going through some training sites, I think I would go 1/2 pot on flop and b150 on turn to set up a pot sized shove on river. In this case, it worked out anyways that stacks were able to get in.
Yeah I think all good players went through a stage where they thought playing theory was always best but you gotta take advantage of these fish to really make your win rate blow up, and live is 90% fish at least
Villain was praying you had 2 pair with his jam and your tank.
Always remember that the villain is counting on his image to provide some additional fold equity when he makes these plays. He knows that you know that he knows.....
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If he’s blind raising 6-handed and he looks down and finds a broadway hand or a suited ace, he’s going to be 3-betting that a lot.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy had just a gutshot and a plan to bluff on scary runouts.
Great point
Having the Kd should make you want to bet bigger/more OTT...the double FD board usually warrants using bigger sizings as well
haven't got to results here, but I am never folding hands this good to virtually anyone and especially not to people who stick out blind raises pre
I didn’t hear it mentioned but wouldn’t Villain play A 10 off suite w/ Ac play this exact line??
I also would’ve called since Hero’s C bet was so small on the flop.
Btw awesome hand review, Bart!
As a central coast resident I can confirm actually that the players casino is an odd mixture of a complete dump and a great view. They charge you for water too...
thumbnail 😂 it’s somehow funnier to mix these things with barts on air persona
If hero does not call with this hand; what would he call with? The next rank of hand I can find for him as played is a queen high flush. Is that hand even a decision?
And snap jams on river seem bluffy.
Im a little confused by Bart’s initial river thinking:
I recall his saying the snap-jam is often a weak tell. So I wonder why he said “Yeah but in this case i’m not sure”. What makes this case an exception from the snap jam being weighted towards bluffs?
I do think it’s a tough call just on an odds basis. When you have to be right 40%, that’s a tough one, unless the villain is just an OMC. But between the villain being someone who has bluffs, it being the back-door draw with villain over calling a flop bet where he didn’t *have* to defend, and the snap-jam tell, I lean to call but I sure would rather have the club blocker!
You could say the sky is blue and Bart would say "uuuhh i dont know about that, because when you add the smog and the clouds, its really a whiteish blue." He almost always disagrees
Maybe he might even say "Axchoolee...sky is really violet. We simply don't possess the necessary physiology to see its real color." Not sure how good Bart's physics game is tho. So maybe not. 😊
@@DonTrump-sv1silmao so true
What bluffs does villain have here other than JdXd? I think they are leaning towards value here with most AcXc and possibly QcXc
all 10dXd
One of the few times I agree with the caller over Bart. Villain 100% could of had Q x of clubs here.
Agreed. The guy blind raised 20. Of course he almost calling pre flop with any decent hand. Then the hero doesn't bet a lot on the flop. Most pre flop raiser will c-bet almost any flop. Then he would pick up a flush draw on the turn with any gutter he may have had on flop. Then gets there and jams the back door which is always difficult for most player to see. Make perfect sense the way thehand played out.
It would be very rare for someone to muck a pair (a sliver of showdown value) in a 5k pot on river. More likely a hand like 109 with zero showdown value.
I agree with this. Bart is looking slat it from a skewed perspective; players in this instance look at the preflop and think "I'm closing the action"...and then on the small bet on the turn same thing, and because they can't be raised, calling $80 into a pot of $340 gives them the reason for saying "eff it I'll draw cheap".
The butt-uun lol... That pronunciation is going to be stuck in my head all night
How about 10/9 clubs? The snap jam seems like a live bluff tell tbh.
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The titles for Bart's videos are out of control at the moment!! I'm actually finding it hilarious.
I like the way this guy says "but-ton" lol
Butt-ton
I mean...you know.
Does Bart still play poker? Or does he coach mostly
He plays a few times a month, and occasionally he'll play on live streams like Hustler
I played on Sunday... u want some of this?? HU for rollz?
@@CrushlivePoker the things I would do to make this happen if it were a real offer lol
This guys description of the villain is hilarious: “he’s a gambling action player who plays tight preflop but also puts in blind raises and he’s a thinking player” 😂😂😂
Dont know results but im never folding.
I think caller is right about the snap jam leaning towards a bluff. In my experience live, in low stakes, the snap decisions lean towards weakness.
@@supersmoo7377 Yep. Classic "strong = weak" tell.
When he said that the villain jammed immediately, I suspected a bluff.
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@@supersmoo7377 I think the more important thing is that the caller has a description of how this guy plays. He's "not bad" and he plays tight preflop, then loves action during the postflop
So he has a tight range...but he also loves to jam. What DOES this guy have with this range that he suddenly decides to jam so hard at the end?
I'd say he was sitting on a pocket underpair and set mining...then tried to salvage it at the river
I call and muck 😂
Dumb question, but how do people remember the hand history? Are people taking notes, or...
Remembering the runout seems self-explanatory, but id find it hard to remember the betting action.
During a session I take notes of notable hands played and save it to my phone. You could also do a voice record off your phone for analysis with friends/forums later for review.
I would suspect the villain had the Ace or King of clubs...this is why he thought the river shove has good. I would not be surprised if he Ac 3x making two pair of the river...
Why would he muck 2 pair on a call without a reveal?
I'm calling against someone who will overbet bluff (like caller said V would). Sometimes losing, obviously.
2 thumbs up
Thats for the thumb nail 😂
AA and AA are 2 of my favorite hands .
People literally never fold any pair multi-way even if they should. The more callers before them the more likely they are to call. “Ooohhh the pots bigger if I hit my card i can win more money” I see guys overcall flop here with like J8 trying to make trips or 2p
J 10 of diamonds ?
What villain's image? Is he a decent player who thinks? If so, this is a call. Any thinking player would spend a few seconds to think about how to extract value from backing into a flush. I would've called.
Remember he only bet 80 Bart
I thought he was going to haveAQ of clubs
Just got to the river this is almost never a fold..
If villain had the flush wouldn’t he want to give hero a price like half pot to call and make money. That’s what I would do.
It’s dependent on what villain thinks of hero’s range and tendencies
Did you outsource video titles to India?
I am of the thinking this decison of making badness for CLP.
lol
10-9d
Caller is lying. He called it off and lost or folded and got showed a bluff
Evidence?
troll comment 😂😂
Ace of clubs bluff easy
Your video description says "Knowing your opponent's holdings is key to winning in chess..." Do you also make chess videos? Perhaps chess videos where the board is partially obstructed and becomes a game of incomplete information?
How about T 8 clubs?
Am i the only one that gets a Tucker Carlson vibe? 🤔
I don't think this guy called the all in. I think he folded which is why he doesn't know villains cards. Yeah he may have mucked but he wasn't happy as bart said
wtf are you talking about🤣
👍👍👍 That's a good read!!
That's why he delayed his answer at direct Q: "What did you do". Also, he made a basic error: said Hero (mucked), instead of Villain...
That's a great read. Explains how unhappy he sounded. Explains his slip of the tongue when he said hero mucked. He probably got grief from his buddies about it & called it in hoping Bart would say how under bluffed this spot is.
J-10d. I think that’s one of the only hands the villain could have
That makes sense! Good call.
Or... maybe he had K10?
And also you have to call this. This dude is saying he flopped top two with AcQc and rivered a backdoor... and that's the only thing he's tryna say here.
Ridiculous click bait title. Preflop is bad IMO. Not playing unsuited broadway. Flop sizing bad, as mentioned. River shove only represents busted draw, so have to call with top of range.
straight call. never trusted nor liked backdoors
if the guy is loose, you callon the river, fk your hand.
he can have a set of jj and no flush his jamming
Plenty of players call with QcXc on the flop. It was a small bet.
Agreed. I think Bart is a little off-base here with his opinion. They think “well I’m getting good pot odds with my pair and backdoor draw”.
Yes if it’s heads up. The big point your missing here is there OVER CALL
What do you drink?😂
easy call , by your discription of the player.
he would of jamed with a a x clube on turn.
its gambling there is not good palyer or bad, just percentage players.
qt of clubs for the price yes,
or he has aq of clubs and slow playing him.
80/20 not 50/50,
A lot of time it's Ace, x of clubs with x being a weak kicker, and a lot of bluffs. 🫣 Coin flip call.