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Just so you know, Crispy - "harem anime" is the very base concept behind the TTRPG "Maid". Of course, it is a comedy game, where the characters are randomly rolled and can be anything from a yakuza princess to an actual bona fide catgirl to a boy in drag - with the only proviso that they are ALL maids. They work for the "master of the mansion", and often don't even see him for whole sessions, but the fact that they're Maids (capital M) makes them literally invincible. They can do anything, they can BE anything... but mostly they can make each other's life a living hell. And that's fun. Because the game is not supposed to be taken seriously - and the Master, being just as a mysterious figure as Charlie (from Charlie's Angels) has absolutely no say on that. He might show up, he might hug a maid, he might scold another - but when push comes to shove he's an absolute and total wimp. Why else would he need a whole troop of maids that can take on Godzilla and WIN? So yeah, harem TTRPGs can be done... if they're done the right way.
Also in Maid the Master doesn't have to be a wimp however in the book (at least the pdf I got) it says that should only be with experienced DMs also you forgot the main mission of the TTRPG for the Master to get with one of the maids this leads to many hijinks cause if your character is on a date with the master they can sabotage and its pretty funny. Highlights from games of mine. 1: One maid tried to convince a gullable and Naive maid that the Master was gay and wouldn't go with her. the Naive maid then went got drunk and basically Made a death trap/conversion therapy the master which was basically the plot of a rick and morty episode. The maids had to stop it. 2: A maid had a date with the Master. The maids made a whole FAKE resturant for the master to see and to so a date there. The maids had disguises and fake names but the employees all thought it was real and kind of confused why a rotund Italian man is geeking over a bishonen. 3: Alien queen got the master as he was basically space jesus. Whole saga happened and then the master decided that he will marry everyone because he used a clone machine on board.
From what I've heard, the thing about Phoenix and Miles is that the writers "accidentally" made one of the gayest stories ever between them in the first game (to the point that there are rumors it's a copy paste from a yaoi manga, no idea whether they're true or not) and when players took notice of it, the writers then went "ooooh. that's funny. let's add material to that in every game." so anyway, between Phoenix calling Miles "daddy" at some point and them going to Phoenix's adopted daughter's shows together they're clearly meant to be shown as having a domestic life together that's hinted as being romantic but never explicitly. However it is true that Franziska and Miles are adopted siblings and never show any romantic inclination towards one another and I think the issue is more that ; it's that the guy will see a relationship hinted as being gay by the writers and nope out of it so hard he will instead go straight to incest so it's 'at least' not gay.
Of the numerous problems in the Harem Anime game I think the most interesting was the OP's lack of buy in on the concept which caused them to act like a bad player. It was explained that this would be a campaign with a central mechanic that operated off of a zero sum game where PC's competed for an NPC's affection. And they played a character who was both incapable and uninterested in engaging in those activities. I would liken this to the player who insists on being the humble librarian in a standard D&D campaign. Sure, they're a wizard, but they're a wizard who never wants to leave their library and they're describing the horror story of how the party keeps going on adventures. They didn't play the game they signed up for, but rather hoped that the DM would redirect his campaign into a different genre where they would be the chosen one.
I was thinking this too. Regardless of what you think of the campaign concept, the fact that OP joined and agreed to play, then proceeded to do everything in their power to avoid engaging with the core concept of the game, then became upset that the game didn't adjust for them is a bit ridiculous.
This. I'm sorry that they had a bad time, but I don’t advise making a character that doesn't have a reason to engage in the plot, much less one that has reasons to *avoid* the plot. It still sucks they were getting talked over. It's hard to say if, honestly, even if they played a more proactive character that they wouldn't have run jnto the same problems of being overshadowed. Edit: Also, I am glad Sydney got a chance to be fleshed out in a story - sometimes characters might not be great for rp, but are still good characters that would fit more in a novel/short story. :)
Hey I was the person you sent the story in the intro segment! I’ve been a watcher of your channel for a while now and I’m glad it was covered by you Crispy! Cheers to many more funny TTRPG horror stories!
I was the druid in the game...I was the mom of the group and oooh boy, it was....interesting being one of the healers in the group. Honestly that specific session was a whole mess.
Hi! I'm the one who sent the Harem anime one! I'm glad you liked it! As I was listening to this, I realized that... I was the only girl in this group. EVERYONE ELSE was a guy
@@ninjabluefyre3815 it's to vicariously fulfill a fantasy. It's why the mc usually has no personality or discernable features. They're a blank slate that the viewer can project themselves onto.
while Phoenix Wright was purposefully written to have gay vibes, I wouldn't say it's homophobic to claim Miles and Phoenix aren't gay (unless you're insulting people for shipping them together or something)
The Hostile DM Story. I have heard this one before. I and a few others in that comment section pointed out we have three legged cats, AND THEY CAN CLIMB!
For the griffins... Persuasion is not mind control. Even with a natural 20. A perfect persuasion roll means your character is as persuasive as they can be given the circumstances. If keeping her griffins safe is a core value of the NPC, no level of persuasion not involving magical brainwashing is going to convince her to send them into battle. ...on the other hand, the DM decides where the lines are, so if they think that coming up with flying combat mechanics on the fly is a good challenge and might lead to some epic and memorable moments for the whole table? Go for it! Maybe the griffin keeper always secretly dreamed of seeing her babies do something grand and heroic and the bard convinced her to let that win out over her protectiveness.
Or, even if the griffin breeder never wanted her pets to go to combat A) that's what they would have to do eventually anyway (they were bred specifically for combat) And/Or B) the Bard's plea was so empassioned and well-reasoned, it actually convinced them that it was the right thing to do...which can happen sometimes
The Phoenix Wright thing is more of "stop shipping incest plz" deal. And their silbings; adopted, step, or other wise. Hi, I have two adopted silblings, and yes, people have tried to force this fetish on us irl Plus, Nick and Miles just have amazing chemistry, right down to them being childhood friends. They've been a mainstay in all the games since the beginning. So you can see how so many peeps get there
@StoickTheTired okay now your point is unclear. They are based on yoai, so do you support shipping nonblood siblings or not. Because you can't say they shouldn't be shipped when they are literally based around two men in a relationship. Now I only know a bare minimum of Phoenix Wright lore, but I know a maximum of yoai tropes to know nothing based on yoai tropes isn't gay for each other. Unless it's just queen baiting which is irritating for its own sets of reasons.
@@demonheart13what do you even mean? Ppl are saying that 1, miles and franziska are adoptive siblings and should really not be shipped, and 2, Miles and Phoenix are very heavily implied and even based on yaoi. Could you maybe clarify what you mean for me?
It’s really funny, my group uses “Beach Episodes” as resting points for when we need to pause the main story and get some chill vibes in. We’ve only had 2 of these, granted, but the shenanigans that came up were absolutely worth it.
Me and a group of friends on a Westmarches did have a "Beach Episode" session. It was pretty fun, actually and we ended up fighting a bunch of crabs. The druid even summonned a giant crab for a crab-on-crab violence. It was very fun, interesting and even served for character development... I'm sure that's not the case of the story here, though.
Here's my pitch for a "harem" campaign: the vizir calls you to investigate a plot to kill the sultan under the guise of picking harem members. The sultan's in on it, the style is cloak and dagger, things stay pg16 cause the sultan is happily married and in fact annoyed being pressured into having 1000 concubines.
I love how you can hear him cracking up on the "hey guys were did we leave the book on boobie physics", because you know he had to do multiple takes on that and that was the best one where he still couldnt take the line seriously.
I ran a game where the PCs were also doing a role-play. One of my old old characters had been ascended to godhood like 15 years ago real-time, and we had a number of characters from that era we wanted to play with again. So... here's what happened. My divine character was stressing the fuck out. She was not enjoying her divine status. The pressure was putting her in a bad mental place. She wanted to go back to the "good old days" (which in itself is humorous because during those old days she was often more frustrated with events, but rose-tinted glasses and all). So, she gathered her old friends together and put forward an idea. Everyone who be able to create avatars they would embody, starting at level 1, and go on an adventure on this other world they had no connections to. She would herself join them (as an NPC as far as I was concerned, and as a PC as far as she was concerned) with her own abilities locked down to a similar level 1 character, and everyone else could either make themselves as level 1 PCs, or she could make new characters with different classes and/or races for them. Their pick. Some of the PCs chose to go as themselves, and others created new characters for them to be. They even could create some back-stories for themselves and the god would "adjust" that world's recent history slightly to fit them in. If they died in the game, they popped back to their original bodies to either wait for a rez to get back in or create a new character and re-enter the game as someone else. It was fun. The big difference between this and the story in the video is that the characters remembered their own lives. What was funny was that sometimes the PCs who role-played different classes would go into battle forgetting they had swapped classes in the game. So you had some of them going off of "muscle memory" charging in when they weren't fighters anymore. Or you'd have the party at a locked door with one of them saying "Gee, it's a shame we don't have anybody who knows how to pick locks." They'd then look at the now-party rogue who would just nod for a few minutes before getting hit off the back of the head and had to be reminded. The comedy was fun as hell, and it was great to play with old characters in a completely new set of situations with different abilities, which made it fresh at the same time. Even though that goddess finished that campaign. The concept of "the game" in the game is still going. There have been more spins done on it. For example, a bunch of characters signed up to go in, but they did so separately, so when the game started, the PCs "in game" met, but they didn't know who they were outside of the game, and several actually knew each other - but they didn't realize that during the adventure, at least for a long while. I even had one PC of mine (from when I was a player years ago) that was hiding from powers outside of the game sneak into one game as a PC, but to keep his head low, he pretended to be an NPC in the adventure. It was only just this week that his identity was discovered by another PC in the game. That was fun, since I spent a year and a half out-of-game pretending he was literally an NPC from a pre-fab adventure, while occasionally dropping a hint or two (like when a PC died and popped out of the game briefly, the number of PCs mentioned to him being in the game was off). Another issue is that some NPCs in the world are picking up on that something is off with these adventurers coming in various places. Also former PC characters continue to live on the world after their "players" leave. One figured things out to the point of starting to hunt down her player ("wait, why did my friends often call me by a wrong name, and why for the last five months have I not called them out on it?"). There's been a ton of potential with this concept, and with real-world players that are into it, it works very well. I know some of this sounds confusing, but that's because I have three layers to describe things to you with: the real-world, the characters in the game, and the game in the game. But when you're playing it, your characters just have themselves and the game, and most of the time they're just playing the game while occasionally making what (for them) are meta comments. In practice, it really isn't confusing at all.
The Ace Attorney thing isn’t really homophobia since it’s ambiguous. But what is concerning is saying Miles should be with Fran. They’re siblings. Adopted siblings, but still very much family.
My fiance is adopted, he has told his brother in law that if he ever screws up he will take his wife (this was before we were dating), at some point I did ask how serious he was about that statement and he said he thought his sister married a guy much like herself and he was happy about that. He also said he couldn't date his sister, but his reason wasn't that it was his sister or even her looks, nope, his reason was that she was very religious and he often got in trouble in church because he was and still is a cheeky little shite. Overall, it depends on if the siblings see themselves as siblings, I suppose.
Like Miles got adopted when he was at elementary school, they refer to each other as siblings, this is weird anyway you look at it even if you want to avoid wrightworth
The best way for GMs to react in situations like "On the fly" is to cheer and celebrate along with your players for their inventiveness and awesome thinking, even if it turns your prep campain upside down.
“I know every DM is an amateur writer, but some amateurs are more amateur than the other amateurs” - this made me giggle but also you’re right & you should say it
The “harem” fantasy one was on the flat of the op he made a character that was a compleat contradicting to the campaign and from the story it sounds like that’s why the party ghosted them.
As for the Harem story I actually had to go back and relisten to the story to get my thoughts together on this, I understand that the OP was new and not very comfortable with the concept and there were definitely issues with the DM. But OP literally made a "that character" that refuses to engage with the party or what passed for an "adventure". Fish out of water characters are fine but require constant work on the part of the player actively working with the DM and other players to keep the character involved. You can't just leave it all on the DM to cater the whole story to constantly throwing out hooks to drag your character kicking and screaming back into the plot. It's honestly not fair to the other players who are actively in and out of character engaging with the story and world. I have considered playing those types of characters myself. But realized that the amount of work and emotional drain of playing the character against the story while keeping them firmly a part of it not apart from it, would kill my motivation to play the character. Glad to know though that you have stuck with it and are having fun.
Seemed less like a "that character" and more like something not built with the DM's harem game in mind. Like a standard DnD game would work better for this character instead of competing with players to seduce a DMPC.
@@ArcCaravan Exactly, it's a "that character" because the character doesn't mesh with the world/plot. Nothing is wrong with the character itself. Just like nothing is wrong when someone makes an overly edgy rogue who just can't trust the party. That's basically just Batman. But you either have to work very hard to make the character fit or use it in a more suited plot. From the given description I bet the character would be great in something like Call of Cthulhu. Just not in an anime themed harem story.
@@chaindragon886 Seems no more "that character" than the DM being "that guy" for making a game that's primarily about getting player characters to flirt with his DMPC.
@@ArcCaravan I mean I literally said there were issues with the DM and described the story as "what passed for an "adventure"" with adventure in quotes because it didn't seem like much of a well thought out plot. I was not shitting on OP, heck even Crispy made his usual comment of "just go write a story" his usual comment about "that character"
That harem anime thin really sounds like a severe case of miscomunication. Tbh, I rather see the issue there that op made a character that simply didn't fit the premise. No matter how weird one might find the premise. Though, the true fail in all that is the DM not vetoing that character right from the start and making it clear that it simply didn't fit the idea they were going for. From there, it was both sides ignoring the issue and try to force the other side to accept how they wanted things to go. How things then went down in the end was completely wrong, of course. Leaving the player just hanging and waste their time by not communicating things is just bad form. Though it fits the theme of both sides not properly talking with each other...
For the flight story, what I would have done is add some archers and ballista to the top of the base to dissuade the players from going straight to the mcguffin.
Scheduling stories hurt me to no end. I'm the kinda guy who tries to give players openings to say "hey something came up, cant make it" by making like several announcements on session days (think "session begins in X hours") on discord. So imagine the frustration of doing that and still have several situations where 2 or 3 people don't show up or mention anything before hand.
The "On The Fly" segment struck home for me. We've been nearly exclusively theater of the mind for almost four decades and I have learned to become very good at the rule of cool and making things work in such a way that the players enjoy. The "seven hour games" comment made me laugh because we've played games that long or longer. The systems were AD&D editions 1 and 2. I once DM a completely improved game that lasted 15 hours, starting at midnight. Man, I miss being young and irresponsible...
You know, I learned early on when I took up dnd as a hobby to insist that my fellow players and dm run the session without me. So long as my character wasn’t at the center of the current events (like their own arc is in progress) or it wasn’t something that we desperately needed everyone to participate in, I really pushed for making sure a session went on anyway and handed over my character for the dm, or some other trusted player, to run. And yes, I would trust another person with my character in the event my character and their skills and magic was needed. I tend to build my characters very solidly into a niche the party tends to need so this is something that means my character needs to be run anyway, regardless of me being there. Honestly the only time this was an issue was when I handed my cleric over to the dm and….he forgot I never gave my character guidance….and he let the entire party use guidance during the session I wasn’t there. Honestly it was more hilarious than anything. I turn up the next session and someone asks me for guidance and I was like “…what are you talking about? I don’t have that cantrip.” And this is when I learn what the dm did. He was pretty embarrassed because he is a very experienced dm and I did clear all of my spell list and choices by him. I get it though. It’s pretty routine to take that cantrip but I had chosen a different one for flavor reasons and so, with all the spinning plates he has to run in a session, he fell back on the idea of what is “normal” to take for a cleric. Anyway! Usually my DM’s prefer I not miss a session and I get it. While I am the chaotic one who always has some mischief up my sleeves, I’m also the one who adds some sanity to the group, keeps things from going too crazy and off the rails, and am the main note taker. Sure, I have my schemes but I tend to have them well laid out that the dm isn’t scrambling and other players have their reminders to, oh I don’t know, remember they have high insight or perception and get prodded into asking for a check? Or that they have this or that spell? I don’t run anyone else’s character ever but I’m usually the one who offers up knowledge on command. Uh…this is because I’m adhd and I tend to deep dive into my hobbies so…know them pretty thoroughly and…um…😅 also I can memorize pretty much anything I read? It doesn’t always work perfectly because adhd but you would probably be surprised but how much I still retain and can recall on command. And since more of the rule book is reading (I say most because there is also that unspoken rules aspect to playing) and I take good notes and pretty much memorize how my DMs tend to prefer to lean in their rulings, well…yeah, I’m used as a resource more often than not. Honestly, the one time I missed an entire week of sessions (I play at multiple tables a week, yes I know how insane I sound) I returned to absolute mayhem for every single one. I did eavesdrop on a few but I wasn’t really able to jump online for any beyond that (spending time out and about with someone in public who was visiting so I would use headphones while I would wait or stuff like that, times where I wasn’t needed for full attention). Anyway, one of the craziest was probably the group who just…stumbled straight into combat because they leapt before they looked. My dm luckily knows how to run my character so they took the brunt of it but I came back to my fighter without his action surge and second wind, and missing some fighting spirits and a good chunk of health. And considering I heard later about tanking some major crits because I was covering for the cleric, that was pretty good. Exactly how the character is meant to be run in combat. But yeah, I may have had a talk to the player who did that to clarify he could easily have had me return to a totally dead character which seems to have stuck with him as we are both legacy players of this campaign and are around level 9 now (almost 10) and he really adores my character both in combat and rp. He seems to have taken to heart to be more careful. I did play off, in character, that my character chased his around for a bit before grappling him for a noogie in revenge for the lack of caution which seems to have shown him no hard feelings. And there isn’t. I just worry when I’m gone because I’m usually the insightful and high perception person and have an irl 6th sense about storybeats that slip past others but my dm’s tend to rely on for me to use for the party. Anyway, enough babble from me.
The 7 hour long sessions feel like a very German thing to do. Like. If we play, we might as well play for the whole day. I've actually started with The Dark Eye, we played Saturdays and some sessions could go up to 12 hours. One of the players fell asleep regularly (we let him sleep, he's in IT). That was when we were all in our 20s and still all living close-by. My group is playing sessions of around 7-9 hours for the Strahd campaign rn (with breaks). It's probably so we don't have to cut the story up too much, but we also have one player who cooks for us every time. So it's a lot like a nice get-together. With me trying not to brutally slaughter my players.
I think The first story premise, with the futuristic and fantasy version concept, was kinda based on isekai stories and the "Media Transmigration" trope. or at least that is what i think Many isekai's are involve character traveling to a game like world. the most similar example i can think of is Sword Art Online, a quite.. lets say... Infamous anime, where the characters are actually playing a videogame, but the game is kinda done with this futuristic vr machine, that allows you to basically manipulates your brain to let you experience the game, also if you die in the game you die in real life. Think like the matrix, but if it was a mmorpg. it seemed they tried to emulate that, but didn't know how to make it work, and honestly it doesn't work that well for dnd. it's kinda like playing a character that in game plays dungeons and dragons, it's kinda weird and adds another layer between you and your character. Maybe you can do it, but like you said it's complicated, and difficult to do well.
I laughed so hard at the rant at the end of the video about the seven hour sessions. Because I was like damn yeah that's sooo long... then I realised our group (5 players 1 DM) plays round about 2 times a month something like 7-10 hour (sometimes even more) sessions in an on going campaign 😂 If someone can't come we will play one shots (mostly in the absolut fantastic Homebrew world of our DM, she is absolutely amazing!)
Are we calling The Odysseus Theorem (yeet the child off the wall or suffer future consequences) Blue Eyed Samurai Rules now? Cause I'm here for it lmao
Phoenix Wright x Miles Edgeworth is so popular, the developers released a cute couple photo of them together for Valentines day. Their ship name in Japanese sounds similar to a specific day/month combination, so they are celebrated as a couple on that day Insisting theres no possibility of them being gay is head in sand behavior, because the subtext of gayness is strong in the source material
on 7 hour sessions, they can work well, when I was a student I ran sessions that long regularly we'd meet up midday on a sunday and keep playing until we got to a good stopping point. More difficult now though shorter attention spans and bussier lives, generally only get 5hour max sessions now.
We edgy girlies gotta stick together! 💜 PS: I'm attempting to romance Astarion in my first BG3 playthrough (4 player with my wife and best friends). Wish me luck! 🥰
If memory serves, giants like to keep Roc’s (massive eagle-like birds) as pets. Easy fix would just be to put a flock of them around the tower to keep the party from simply doing what they want.
I'm not an expert in Ace Attorney, but I know enough to say that thing is mostly just a shipping thing due to how close both characters are and their dynamics/interactions, so yes, not cannon, I'm even kind of positive they were both straight so it might not make sense (Don't take my word on that though), but it's a popular ship nonetheless, and it doesn't harm anyone unless they take it a little too serious, but the fact that they preferred the pseudo incest one over the one of two grown adults with an interesting dynamic is..... not telling necessarily, due to Fran being one of the most popular female characters in the franchise, and also being one of the more suggestive characters (Her exaggerated poses, plus her whip, plus she looks really nice), but to be in favor of the pseudo incest one with characters that to my knowledge don't show much besides a sibling bond, and also bad mouthing the other one is just kind of weird is all (Specially cause it sounds like they hate it for being gay, while they're ok with the other for being straight even though it's incest, so....)
Some people would argue Edgeworth's family history overrules Franziska being an adopted sibling due to them being siblings just being a side effect of Manfred's convoluted revenge scheme involving adoption. And all three characters in this shipping conflict are grown adults capable of legal consent.
@@emberfist8347 Does it? All that proves is Pheonix can be attracted to women, which simply rules out homosexuality and asexuality. It's not impossible for him to be pansexual or bisexual.
@@emberfist8347 You just gave proof of at least heterosexuality (I assume you meant "don't hint at anything BUT heterosexuality" rather than "AT heterosexuality" but I had to make the joke). Unless Phoenix explicitly says something along the lines of "I'm not interested in men that way", there is a chance at bisexuality (even if it's incredibly small and inconsequential). Just trying to be fair to both sides.
Beach episode! I think I should definitely have a beach episode in my campaign, sometime before the PCs head to the Abyss to kill the evil deity pestering them since the second adventure of the campaign.
4:03 "Um, actually" (but not quite) As far as I know, Frankenstein's monster wasn't evil in itself, but people around him were extremely hostile- Like whole point of story was "humans so afraid of unknown that they're willing to ruin it without checking if it's a threat", no?
New subscriber here, been listening to several of these horror stories videos. Couple of things: 1) You're a good storyteller; even as someone who is a total novice at TTRPG, im still engaged in listening to the stories. 2) The main themes I'm seeing across most of these are a) people using the game to play God/Jesus/Master Storyteller, and b) people using the game to indulge their fetishes.
I continue to be surprised that so many people have problems with longer ttrpg sessions. I grew up with 5-6 hrs being the norm, and have had a 5-8 hr game near weekly. It's just a matter of what you want to prioritize on your weekends.
Honestly, while people are saying the girl from the harem story wasn't being cooperative. I feel like she found a pretty good compromise. It doesn't seem to be any other plot so it looked like it was mainly just the player character is flirting with the DM with random s*** going on. Having each character with a backstory that has to be explored for them to interact with this dmpc is more believable than having them all just randomly chased him.
12:00 as for an ace attorney thing the two of them are just legit written like former lovers in the "listen we cant say that they dated.... but they dated" way hence the ace attorney Fandom going Phoenix and Edgeworth are husbands your honor
Players throw you for a loop and head straight for the end of the dungeon? Flip it upside down and make “secret lair” underneath the secret lair that they now have to go backwards through to find
The Scheduling story hit me hard I had a similar problem with a small group and we played I think just three sessions on one campaign including session 0 another campaign had two sessions and another had two sessions. I have three characters is limbo...(or death since busy guy just would rather do random stuff with his friend on the only day that is free.) One guy left due to family problems, another was studying (the forever DM) we had a new guy join and the other guy was too busy...even on weekends. I gave up I doubt I'll ever get to play, since I'm still a newbie)
I searched "can a three-legged cat climb," and found multiple videos immediately. That DM is talking out the back of his neck. And the last season of _Voltron_ was an unholy mess even if we ignore the 'shippers.
I'm actually gonna agree with the three-legged cat ruling. But I'm pretty sure a 3-legged cat with the intelligence of a PC and experience of a 5th level character can climb a tree. Actually I think any given cat who loses a leg but still has all 15 other claws can climb a tree once it gets used to it.
5:55 - +2 Rapier that does 2d8 fire damage? Bro that outdoes a Wakened Dragon’s Wrath Rapier, and that’s a Very Rare Weapon that costs attunement, what a DM lmao
I feel like the Avatar idea could work, but you have to integrate it better. I have ideas for a setting called Paradisio, who's thing is that its a VR MMO similar to the World from .Hack// (or I guess Sword Art Online, but I prefer .Hack//), which would work on similar rules of characters controlling Avatars in a game, but I'd want to integrate the two worlds much better than this. The tactical strike at the top of the highest point of the tower reminds me a bit of a moment from the Actual Play show Forge of Lore, only the big boss was actually at the top as he was the target. Steve, the DM, scrambled to get as many enemies up there as quickly as they could, until a certain viewer (okay, it was me) used a chat feature that could literally call in one of the Norse Gods to help the party, so Thor showed up and started fighting off the enemies on the lower floors, completely ruining Steve's plans... great guy, we all had a bit of a chuckle about it afterwards, and more enemies wound up coming in next session anyway. I swear I had something snarky to say, but I can't remember what it was.
Now you got me thinking out how to play/write a story about an MMO. Like maybe have the "real" world be a simulation genre section where the human earns money to augment their in-game avatars or look up hints/strategies to the game online. Time management could also be a factor like balancing how much players "play" without penalties of during the "game".
@@ArcCaravan Huh that's more than I was thinking, I just thought of having a secondary set of skills/knowledge system that's built off your "real" character. To use an example from SA:O (Yes, yes I know) like a character having better reaction time with swords because they're trained in kendo. Though obviously not the OP bullshit in SA:O just like a bonus of some kind.
@@shadenox8164 That makes me think of Log Horizon with how players needed both in-game cooking skills and actual culinary knowledge to make food that tastes good.
God, I hate the "I want to play a unique character" and the "I want to give you debuffs for playing that character." Granted, I as the DM will outline what I'm comfortable with, but it's never OK to just debuff or punish a player even if it "realistic." I have a thing for eyepatches and battle scarred veterans/pirates. Should they all be unable to participate in the adventure? One DM suggested I should have *disadvantage* on all attack rolls and skill checks because I'm missing an eye and I was like "Dude, I might have limited depth perception, but I'm not *blinded*. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be narratively apropriate, I didn't make a one-eyed character who's power is that he can see better than everyone else. Just let the fantastic fantasy be playable or at least give me something cool to make up for that which you mechanically punish on character creation. Fuggin', I even had one DM say that because I described my greatsword as "Worn, chipped and scratched from various battles with beasts of all sizes" that I should get a -1 to all attack rolls with it! I think that was the same guy I mentioned before. It's just thtat neither of those were mentioned until *after* we started session 1.
Second story reminds me of the board game T.I.M.E. Stories. It's a great game where you play futuristic time cops that go through time fixing temporal rifts by taking control of people close to the problem with usefull skills. This could have lead to a multi system campaign letting the futuristic people solve different related problem through spacetime :D Well, it could have been if the DM had treated his players fairly. Hope they learn and get better games. ^^
...... I used to run 6+ hr sessions w/ my sessions. For 4 years total (5 w/ a year long DM burnout year) Lvl 1-20 multistory campaign. Is that not normal? Edit to add// started weekly 8-10hr with 3 players as a newbie 3.x e DM, then shifted after the first year to every other week due to one of my players (my brother) wanting to DM his own 5e campaign and me wanting to try it. 3rd year, shifted to 1 month of my campaign weekly then a month of my brother's then back to mine. 4th year was my burnout year because i was in 4 games total (DM: mine, Player: my brother's, my brother's bestie, and friend of brother's bestie) 5th year, dropped from 8hr sessions to 6hr ones, every other week. Had my epilogue in the first month of what would've been year 6. Ended with 7 players total. And this is still with an odd 12 hr session every other year, sickness/covid, rescheduling or hyperfocused character(s) time (half the party had to be present), or 1 on 1 side stories.
CRISPY You should play Phoenix Wright. I also didn’t care about it until this year. But someone got a hook in me and I binged the first four games plus one spin-off in about two months. (Would have been like two weeks but I tried to only play when I could do a whole case in one sitting.) There’s no reason I think you would like it except it’s good, I like it, and I like a lot of the same things you seem to like.
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Just so you know, Crispy - "harem anime" is the very base concept behind the TTRPG "Maid". Of course, it is a comedy game, where the characters are randomly rolled and can be anything from a yakuza princess to an actual bona fide catgirl to a boy in drag - with the only proviso that they are ALL maids. They work for the "master of the mansion", and often don't even see him for whole sessions, but the fact that they're Maids (capital M) makes them literally invincible. They can do anything, they can BE anything... but mostly they can make each other's life a living hell. And that's fun.
Because the game is not supposed to be taken seriously - and the Master, being just as a mysterious figure as Charlie (from Charlie's Angels) has absolutely no say on that. He might show up, he might hug a maid, he might scold another - but when push comes to shove he's an absolute and total wimp. Why else would he need a whole troop of maids that can take on Godzilla and WIN?
So yeah, harem TTRPGs can be done... if they're done the right way.
I m down with a femboy cat maid that can shoot LAZERBEAMS from his 4head
Also in Maid the Master doesn't have to be a wimp however in the book (at least the pdf I got) it says that should only be with experienced DMs also you forgot the main mission of the TTRPG for the Master to get with one of the maids this leads to many hijinks cause if your character is on a date with the master they can sabotage and its pretty funny.
Highlights from games of mine.
1: One maid tried to convince a gullable and Naive maid that the Master was gay and wouldn't go with her. the Naive maid then went got drunk and basically Made a death trap/conversion therapy the master which was basically the plot of a rick and morty episode. The maids had to stop it.
2: A maid had a date with the Master. The maids made a whole FAKE resturant for the master to see and to so a date there. The maids had disguises and fake names but the employees all thought it was real and kind of confused why a rotund Italian man is geeking over a bishonen.
3: Alien queen got the master as he was basically space jesus. Whole saga happened and then the master decided that he will marry everyone because he used a clone machine on board.
best maid anime is Kamen no maid guy
@@nardopolo7407 100% and a half agree. Nobody beats Kogarashi, not even Kogarashi.
From what I've heard, the thing about Phoenix and Miles is that the writers "accidentally" made one of the gayest stories ever between them in the first game (to the point that there are rumors it's a copy paste from a yaoi manga, no idea whether they're true or not) and when players took notice of it, the writers then went "ooooh. that's funny. let's add material to that in every game." so anyway, between Phoenix calling Miles "daddy" at some point and them going to Phoenix's adopted daughter's shows together they're clearly meant to be shown as having a domestic life together that's hinted as being romantic but never explicitly.
However it is true that Franziska and Miles are adopted siblings and never show any romantic inclination towards one another and I think the issue is more that ; it's that the guy will see a relationship hinted as being gay by the writers and nope out of it so hard he will instead go straight to incest so it's 'at least' not gay.
Of the numerous problems in the Harem Anime game I think the most interesting was the OP's lack of buy in on the concept which caused them to act like a bad player.
It was explained that this would be a campaign with a central mechanic that operated off of a zero sum game where PC's competed for an NPC's affection. And they played a character who was both incapable and uninterested in engaging in those activities. I would liken this to the player who insists on being the humble librarian in a standard D&D campaign. Sure, they're a wizard, but they're a wizard who never wants to leave their library and they're describing the horror story of how the party keeps going on adventures. They didn't play the game they signed up for, but rather hoped that the DM would redirect his campaign into a different genre where they would be the chosen one.
I was thinking this too. Regardless of what you think of the campaign concept, the fact that OP joined and agreed to play, then proceeded to do everything in their power to avoid engaging with the core concept of the game, then became upset that the game didn't adjust for them is a bit ridiculous.
This. I'm sorry that they had a bad time, but I don’t advise making a character that doesn't have a reason to engage in the plot, much less one that has reasons to *avoid* the plot.
It still sucks they were getting talked over. It's hard to say if, honestly, even if they played a more proactive character that they wouldn't have run jnto the same problems of being overshadowed.
Edit: Also, I am glad Sydney got a chance to be fleshed out in a story - sometimes characters might not be great for rp, but are still good characters that would fit more in a novel/short story. :)
Hey I was the person you sent the story in the intro segment! I’ve been a watcher of your channel for a while now and I’m glad it was covered by you Crispy! Cheers to many more funny TTRPG horror stories!
That story was hilarious.
I was the druid in the game...I was the mom of the group and oooh boy, it was....interesting being one of the healers in the group.
Honestly that specific session was a whole mess.
Hi! I'm the one who sent the Harem anime one! I'm glad you liked it! As I was listening to this, I realized that... I was the only girl in this group. EVERYONE ELSE was a guy
I've never understood harem anime.
@@ninjabluefyre3815 it's to vicariously fulfill a fantasy. It's why the mc usually has no personality or discernable features. They're a blank slate that the viewer can project themselves onto.
Hey, any chance you can direct us where to find that story you said you were making? I'm a suckered for some dark stories.
Yeah, I kinda wanna read the story, it seems very compelling. Where can we read it?
@@jaytgodby-schwab715 Yeah! It's actually on AO3 under the name Changeling's Rise by Millicent Dagworth. Sydeny is apart of the sequel
while Phoenix Wright was purposefully written to have gay vibes, I wouldn't say it's homophobic to claim Miles and Phoenix aren't gay (unless you're insulting people for shipping them together or something)
Yeah but saying Miles should end up with his sister is weird.
@@genericname2747 honestly it's a common ship among the more... perverse side of the fandom
@@miraculousabridged2857 oh no
@@genericname2747 it gets worse even, put simply Ace Attorney is amazing, but stay away from the toxic parts of the fandom
@@miraculousabridged2857 Sounds like all fandoms.
"Miles Edgeworth should not be gay he should marry his sister instead!" That's some high tier banjo playing y'allqaeda stuff right there.
Man probably does S-Support with Camilla in Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest..
If you know, you know.
Was not expecting a Voltron shipping war jumpscare in this video ngl
The Hostile DM Story. I have heard this one before. I and a few others in that comment section pointed out we have three legged cats, AND THEY CAN CLIMB!
The concept the DM was trying to implement screams Assassin's Creed to me. 95% of each game has nothing to do with the "real" person in the Animus.
@@MogamiKyoko13 Could be that or MMORPG isekais.
For the griffins...
Persuasion is not mind control. Even with a natural 20. A perfect persuasion roll means your character is as persuasive as they can be given the circumstances. If keeping her griffins safe is a core value of the NPC, no level of persuasion not involving magical brainwashing is going to convince her to send them into battle.
...on the other hand, the DM decides where the lines are, so if they think that coming up with flying combat mechanics on the fly is a good challenge and might lead to some epic and memorable moments for the whole table? Go for it! Maybe the griffin keeper always secretly dreamed of seeing her babies do something grand and heroic and the bard convinced her to let that win out over her protectiveness.
Or, even if the griffin breeder never wanted her pets to go to combat
A) that's what they would have to do eventually anyway (they were bred specifically for combat)
And/Or
B) the Bard's plea was so empassioned and well-reasoned, it actually convinced them that it was the right thing to do...which can happen sometimes
The Phoenix Wright thing is more of "stop shipping incest plz" deal. And their silbings; adopted, step, or other wise.
Hi, I have two adopted silblings, and yes, people have tried to force this fetish on us irl
Plus, Nick and Miles just have amazing chemistry, right down to them being childhood friends. They've been a mainstay in all the games since the beginning. So you can see how so many peeps get there
their relationship in the game (original trilogy) is also literally based on yaoi manga...
@@renab.7390 exactly!
@StoickTheTired okay now your point is unclear. They are based on yoai, so do you support shipping nonblood siblings or not. Because you can't say they shouldn't be shipped when they are literally based around two men in a relationship. Now I only know a bare minimum of Phoenix Wright lore, but I know a maximum of yoai tropes to know nothing based on yoai tropes isn't gay for each other. Unless it's just queen baiting which is irritating for its own sets of reasons.
@@demonheart13what do you even mean? Ppl are saying that 1, miles and franziska are adoptive siblings and should really not be shipped, and 2, Miles and Phoenix are very heavily implied and even based on yaoi. Could you maybe clarify what you mean for me?
Miles and Phoenix are amazing
“CW: Egregious Scheduling” 😂😂😂
It’s really funny, my group uses “Beach Episodes” as resting points for when we need to pause the main story and get some chill vibes in. We’ve only had 2 of these, granted, but the shenanigans that came up were absolutely worth it.
Me and a group of friends on a Westmarches did have a "Beach Episode" session. It was pretty fun, actually and we ended up fighting a bunch of crabs. The druid even summonned a giant crab for a crab-on-crab violence. It was very fun, interesting and even served for character development...
I'm sure that's not the case of the story here, though.
Beach episodes can be a lotta fun, but you gotta have the whole squad willing to get in on it.
A fighter with an intelligence of 3? When the minimum intelligence required for sapience is 4. Wonder how that went....
I think it mgith a giant from Skyrim.
Here's my pitch for a "harem" campaign: the vizir calls you to investigate a plot to kill the sultan under the guise of picking harem members. The sultan's in on it, the style is cloak and dagger, things stay pg16 cause the sultan is happily married and in fact annoyed being pressured into having 1000 concubines.
I love how you can hear him cracking up on the "hey guys were did we leave the book on boobie physics", because you know he had to do multiple takes on that and that was the best one where he still couldnt take the line seriously.
Scheduling is the OG horror story.
I ran a game where the PCs were also doing a role-play. One of my old old characters had been ascended to godhood like 15 years ago real-time, and we had a number of characters from that era we wanted to play with again. So... here's what happened.
My divine character was stressing the fuck out. She was not enjoying her divine status. The pressure was putting her in a bad mental place. She wanted to go back to the "good old days" (which in itself is humorous because during those old days she was often more frustrated with events, but rose-tinted glasses and all). So, she gathered her old friends together and put forward an idea. Everyone who be able to create avatars they would embody, starting at level 1, and go on an adventure on this other world they had no connections to. She would herself join them (as an NPC as far as I was concerned, and as a PC as far as she was concerned) with her own abilities locked down to a similar level 1 character, and everyone else could either make themselves as level 1 PCs, or she could make new characters with different classes and/or races for them. Their pick. Some of the PCs chose to go as themselves, and others created new characters for them to be. They even could create some back-stories for themselves and the god would "adjust" that world's recent history slightly to fit them in. If they died in the game, they popped back to their original bodies to either wait for a rez to get back in or create a new character and re-enter the game as someone else.
It was fun. The big difference between this and the story in the video is that the characters remembered their own lives. What was funny was that sometimes the PCs who role-played different classes would go into battle forgetting they had swapped classes in the game. So you had some of them going off of "muscle memory" charging in when they weren't fighters anymore. Or you'd have the party at a locked door with one of them saying "Gee, it's a shame we don't have anybody who knows how to pick locks." They'd then look at the now-party rogue who would just nod for a few minutes before getting hit off the back of the head and had to be reminded. The comedy was fun as hell, and it was great to play with old characters in a completely new set of situations with different abilities, which made it fresh at the same time.
Even though that goddess finished that campaign. The concept of "the game" in the game is still going. There have been more spins done on it. For example, a bunch of characters signed up to go in, but they did so separately, so when the game started, the PCs "in game" met, but they didn't know who they were outside of the game, and several actually knew each other - but they didn't realize that during the adventure, at least for a long while. I even had one PC of mine (from when I was a player years ago) that was hiding from powers outside of the game sneak into one game as a PC, but to keep his head low, he pretended to be an NPC in the adventure. It was only just this week that his identity was discovered by another PC in the game. That was fun, since I spent a year and a half out-of-game pretending he was literally an NPC from a pre-fab adventure, while occasionally dropping a hint or two (like when a PC died and popped out of the game briefly, the number of PCs mentioned to him being in the game was off). Another issue is that some NPCs in the world are picking up on that something is off with these adventurers coming in various places. Also former PC characters continue to live on the world after their "players" leave. One figured things out to the point of starting to hunt down her player ("wait, why did my friends often call me by a wrong name, and why for the last five months have I not called them out on it?"). There's been a ton of potential with this concept, and with real-world players that are into it, it works very well.
I know some of this sounds confusing, but that's because I have three layers to describe things to you with: the real-world, the characters in the game, and the game in the game. But when you're playing it, your characters just have themselves and the game, and most of the time they're just playing the game while occasionally making what (for them) are meta comments. In practice, it really isn't confusing at all.
The Ace Attorney thing isn’t really homophobia since it’s ambiguous. But what is concerning is saying Miles should be with Fran. They’re siblings. Adopted siblings, but still very much family.
My fiance is adopted, he has told his brother in law that if he ever screws up he will take his wife (this was before we were dating), at some point I did ask how serious he was about that statement and he said he thought his sister married a guy much like herself and he was happy about that. He also said he couldn't date his sister, but his reason wasn't that it was his sister or even her looks, nope, his reason was that she was very religious and he often got in trouble in church because he was and still is a cheeky little shite. Overall, it depends on if the siblings see themselves as siblings, I suppose.
They see themselves as siblings in this scenario.
Like Miles got adopted when he was at elementary school, they refer to each other as siblings, this is weird anyway you look at it even if you want to avoid wrightworth
Ambigious? Two Words Dalia Hawthorne
@@emberfist8347 That doesn't really mean anything. All that means is that Pheonix had a girlfriend once.
The best way for GMs to react in situations like "On the fly" is to cheer and celebrate along with your players for their inventiveness and awesome thinking, even if it turns your prep campain upside down.
“I know every DM is an amateur writer, but some amateurs are more amateur than the other amateurs” - this made me giggle but also you’re right & you should say it
He stares at you with his button-like eyes, saying nothing
All together now: *If you bully your players, soon you will have no players*
I felt that Helldivers comment.
Poor Eruptor. My beloved has been nerfed accidentally when they were trying to buff it.
Part of the harem story just kinda sounds like the player didn’t make an appropriate character for the setting
Seeing those Call of Cthulhu clips in the beach episode skit makes me want to break out the Xbox One again.
"CW : Egregious Scheduling"
Me : PTSD flashback meme imagery
The “harem” fantasy one was on the flat of the op he made a character that was a compleat contradicting to the campaign and from the story it sounds like that’s why the party ghosted them.
As for the Harem story I actually had to go back and relisten to the story to get my thoughts together on this, I understand that the OP was new and not very comfortable with the concept and there were definitely issues with the DM. But OP literally made a "that character" that refuses to engage with the party or what passed for an "adventure".
Fish out of water characters are fine but require constant work on the part of the player actively working with the DM and other players to keep the character involved. You can't just leave it all on the DM to cater the whole story to constantly throwing out hooks to drag your character kicking and screaming back into the plot. It's honestly not fair to the other players who are actively in and out of character engaging with the story and world.
I have considered playing those types of characters myself. But realized that the amount of work and emotional drain of playing the character against the story while keeping them firmly a part of it not apart from it, would kill my motivation to play the character.
Glad to know though that you have stuck with it and are having fun.
Seemed less like a "that character" and more like something not built with the DM's harem game in mind. Like a standard DnD game would work better for this character instead of competing with players to seduce a DMPC.
@@ArcCaravan Exactly, it's a "that character" because the character doesn't mesh with the world/plot. Nothing is wrong with the character itself.
Just like nothing is wrong when someone makes an overly edgy rogue who just can't trust the party. That's basically just Batman. But you either have to work very hard to make the character fit or use it in a more suited plot.
From the given description I bet the character would be great in something like Call of Cthulhu. Just not in an anime themed harem story.
@@chaindragon886 Seems no more "that character" than the DM being "that guy" for making a game that's primarily about getting player characters to flirt with his DMPC.
@@ArcCaravan I mean I literally said there were issues with the DM and described the story as "what passed for an "adventure"" with adventure in quotes because it didn't seem like much of a well thought out plot. I was not shitting on OP, heck even Crispy made his usual comment of "just go write a story" his usual comment about "that character"
There is a whole game about playing a Harem series, where the PCs fan over the GMs protagonist.
It's called "MAID RPG" ^^;
That harem anime thin really sounds like a severe case of miscomunication. Tbh, I rather see the issue there that op made a character that simply didn't fit the premise. No matter how weird one might find the premise. Though, the true fail in all that is the DM not vetoing that character right from the start and making it clear that it simply didn't fit the idea they were going for. From there, it was both sides ignoring the issue and try to force the other side to accept how they wanted things to go. How things then went down in the end was completely wrong, of course. Leaving the player just hanging and waste their time by not communicating things is just bad form. Though it fits the theme of both sides not properly talking with each other...
For the flight story, what I would have done is add some archers and ballista to the top of the base to dissuade the players from going straight to the mcguffin.
Cats can literally climb with three legs. They are VERY adaptable animals. Even if they DID wild-shape into a 3-legged cat, they could for sure do it.
PLEAAASSEEE I WAS NOT EXPECTING THE VOLTRON JUMPSCARE
I took psychic damage from that reference to Wings of Redemption.
Scheduling stories hurt me to no end. I'm the kinda guy who tries to give players openings to say "hey something came up, cant make it" by making like several announcements on session days (think "session begins in X hours") on discord. So imagine the frustration of doing that and still have several situations where 2 or 3 people don't show up or mention anything before hand.
Harem is easily served by taking notes and making side quests on days the normal game is canceled or concludes early
I prefer Nuxanor's take on your Blue Eyes Samurai bit. "End the bloodline."
the "on the fly" story is FULLY how it is with the group that I play with and occasionally DM for its usually fun that they keep me on my toes
The "On The Fly" segment struck home for me. We've been nearly exclusively theater of the mind for almost four decades and I have learned to become very good at the rule of cool and making things work in such a way that the players enjoy.
The "seven hour games" comment made me laugh because we've played games that long or longer. The systems were AD&D editions 1 and 2. I once DM a completely improved game that lasted 15 hours, starting at midnight. Man, I miss being young and irresponsible...
You know, I learned early on when I took up dnd as a hobby to insist that my fellow players and dm run the session without me. So long as my character wasn’t at the center of the current events (like their own arc is in progress) or it wasn’t something that we desperately needed everyone to participate in, I really pushed for making sure a session went on anyway and handed over my character for the dm, or some other trusted player, to run. And yes, I would trust another person with my character in the event my character and their skills and magic was needed. I tend to build my characters very solidly into a niche the party tends to need so this is something that means my character needs to be run anyway, regardless of me being there. Honestly the only time this was an issue was when I handed my cleric over to the dm and….he forgot I never gave my character guidance….and he let the entire party use guidance during the session I wasn’t there. Honestly it was more hilarious than anything. I turn up the next session and someone asks me for guidance and I was like “…what are you talking about? I don’t have that cantrip.” And this is when I learn what the dm did. He was pretty embarrassed because he is a very experienced dm and I did clear all of my spell list and choices by him. I get it though. It’s pretty routine to take that cantrip but I had chosen a different one for flavor reasons and so, with all the spinning plates he has to run in a session, he fell back on the idea of what is “normal” to take for a cleric. Anyway! Usually my DM’s prefer I not miss a session and I get it. While I am the chaotic one who always has some mischief up my sleeves, I’m also the one who adds some sanity to the group, keeps things from going too crazy and off the rails, and am the main note taker. Sure, I have my schemes but I tend to have them well laid out that the dm isn’t scrambling and other players have their reminders to, oh I don’t know, remember they have high insight or perception and get prodded into asking for a check? Or that they have this or that spell? I don’t run anyone else’s character ever but I’m usually the one who offers up knowledge on command. Uh…this is because I’m adhd and I tend to deep dive into my hobbies so…know them pretty thoroughly and…um…😅 also I can memorize pretty much anything I read? It doesn’t always work perfectly because adhd but you would probably be surprised but how much I still retain and can recall on command. And since more of the rule book is reading (I say most because there is also that unspoken rules aspect to playing) and I take good notes and pretty much memorize how my DMs tend to prefer to lean in their rulings, well…yeah, I’m used as a resource more often than not. Honestly, the one time I missed an entire week of sessions (I play at multiple tables a week, yes I know how insane I sound) I returned to absolute mayhem for every single one. I did eavesdrop on a few but I wasn’t really able to jump online for any beyond that (spending time out and about with someone in public who was visiting so I would use headphones while I would wait or stuff like that, times where I wasn’t needed for full attention). Anyway, one of the craziest was probably the group who just…stumbled straight into combat because they leapt before they looked. My dm luckily knows how to run my character so they took the brunt of it but I came back to my fighter without his action surge and second wind, and missing some fighting spirits and a good chunk of health. And considering I heard later about tanking some major crits because I was covering for the cleric, that was pretty good. Exactly how the character is meant to be run in combat. But yeah, I may have had a talk to the player who did that to clarify he could easily have had me return to a totally dead character which seems to have stuck with him as we are both legacy players of this campaign and are around level 9 now (almost 10) and he really adores my character both in combat and rp. He seems to have taken to heart to be more careful. I did play off, in character, that my character chased his around for a bit before grappling him for a noogie in revenge for the lack of caution which seems to have shown him no hard feelings. And there isn’t. I just worry when I’m gone because I’m usually the insightful and high perception person and have an irl 6th sense about storybeats that slip past others but my dm’s tend to rely on for me to use for the party. Anyway, enough babble from me.
Looking forward to the new AP! Also a fan of Flower Crown Crispy variant. 😊
The 7 hour long sessions feel like a very German thing to do. Like. If we play, we might as well play for the whole day.
I've actually started with The Dark Eye, we played Saturdays and some sessions could go up to 12 hours. One of the players fell asleep regularly (we let him sleep, he's in IT). That was when we were all in our 20s and still all living close-by.
My group is playing sessions of around 7-9 hours for the Strahd campaign rn (with breaks). It's probably so we don't have to cut the story up too much, but we also have one player who cooks for us every time. So it's a lot like a nice get-together. With me trying not to brutally slaughter my players.
I need more people in my life to have watched Blue Eye Samurai.
I think The first story premise, with the futuristic and fantasy version concept, was kinda based on isekai stories and the "Media Transmigration" trope. or at least that is what i think
Many isekai's are involve character traveling to a game like world. the most similar example i can think of is Sword Art Online, a quite.. lets say... Infamous anime, where the characters are actually playing a videogame, but the game is kinda done with this futuristic vr machine, that allows you to basically manipulates your brain to let you experience the game, also if you die in the game you die in real life.
Think like the matrix, but if it was a mmorpg.
it seemed they tried to emulate that, but didn't know how to make it work, and honestly it doesn't work that well for dnd. it's kinda like playing a character that in game plays dungeons and dragons, it's kinda weird and adds another layer between you and your character. Maybe you can do it, but like you said it's complicated, and difficult to do well.
Honestly might steal the "One low stat for a feat" thing that's kinda clever.
I laughed so hard at the rant at the end of the video about the seven hour sessions. Because I was like damn yeah that's sooo long... then I realised our group (5 players 1 DM) plays round about 2 times a month something like 7-10 hour (sometimes even more) sessions in an on going campaign 😂
If someone can't come we will play one shots (mostly in the absolut fantastic Homebrew world of our DM, she is absolutely amazing!)
The mute conflict line should have led to the party living in the wild like monsters but looking like normal folks
Yay! Another campaign! I'm excited! 😃
Are we calling The Odysseus Theorem (yeet the child off the wall or suffer future consequences) Blue Eyed Samurai Rules now? Cause I'm here for it lmao
Phoenix Wright x Miles Edgeworth is so popular, the developers released a cute couple photo of them together for Valentines day. Their ship name in Japanese sounds similar to a specific day/month combination, so they are celebrated as a couple on that day
Insisting theres no possibility of them being gay is head in sand behavior, because the subtext of gayness is strong in the source material
on 7 hour sessions, they can work well, when I was a student I ran sessions that long regularly we'd meet up midday on a sunday and keep playing until we got to a good stopping point.
More difficult now though shorter attention spans and bussier lives, generally only get 5hour max sessions now.
Soooo excited for Wednesday!
This is some real band kid editing right here
We edgy girlies gotta stick together! 💜
PS: I'm attempting to romance Astarion in my first BG3 playthrough (4 player with my wife and best friends). Wish me luck! 🥰
If memory serves, giants like to keep Roc’s (massive eagle-like birds) as pets. Easy fix would just be to put a flock of them around the tower to keep the party from simply doing what they want.
Thumbs up for Blue-Eyed Samurai love!
I'm not an expert in Ace Attorney, but I know enough to say that thing is mostly just a shipping thing due to how close both characters are and their dynamics/interactions, so yes, not cannon, I'm even kind of positive they were both straight so it might not make sense (Don't take my word on that though), but it's a popular ship nonetheless, and it doesn't harm anyone unless they take it a little too serious, but the fact that they preferred the pseudo incest one over the one of two grown adults with an interesting dynamic is..... not telling necessarily, due to Fran being one of the most popular female characters in the franchise, and also being one of the more suggestive characters (Her exaggerated poses, plus her whip, plus she looks really nice), but to be in favor of the pseudo incest one with characters that to my knowledge don't show much besides a sibling bond, and also bad mouthing the other one is just kind of weird is all (Specially cause it sounds like they hate it for being gay, while they're ok with the other for being straight even though it's incest, so....)
Some people would argue Edgeworth's family history overrules Franziska being an adopted sibling due to them being siblings just being a side effect of Manfred's convoluted revenge scheme involving adoption. And all three characters in this shipping conflict are grown adults capable of legal consent.
It does however go against the established lore that Pheonix dated Dalia
@@emberfist8347 Does it? All that proves is Pheonix can be attracted to women, which simply rules out homosexuality and asexuality. It's not impossible for him to be pansexual or bisexual.
@@ArcCaravan The decade+ of stories which don't hint at anything at heterosexuality say otherwise.
@@emberfist8347 You just gave proof of at least heterosexuality (I assume you meant "don't hint at anything BUT heterosexuality" rather than "AT heterosexuality" but I had to make the joke). Unless Phoenix explicitly says something along the lines of "I'm not interested in men that way", there is a chance at bisexuality (even if it's incredibly small and inconsequential). Just trying to be fair to both sides.
Love the blue eye samurai joke
I run games ranging from 4to16 hours personally. Depends on the group and their desires.
Beach episode! I think I should definitely have a beach episode in my campaign, sometime before the PCs head to the Abyss to kill the evil deity pestering them since the second adventure of the campaign.
That last story would INFURIATE me so much...
4:03
"Um, actually" (but not quite)
As far as I know, Frankenstein's monster wasn't evil in itself, but people around him were extremely hostile-
Like whole point of story was "humans so afraid of unknown that they're willing to ruin it without checking if it's a threat", no?
why is the new robotic mouse constantly angry and creepy
ive never seen a home brew death knight build I liked for dnd
New subscriber here, been listening to several of these horror stories videos. Couple of things:
1) You're a good storyteller; even as someone who is a total novice at TTRPG, im still engaged in listening to the stories.
2) The main themes I'm seeing across most of these are a) people using the game to play God/Jesus/Master Storyteller, and b) people using the game to indulge their fetishes.
I continue to be surprised that so many people have problems with longer ttrpg sessions. I grew up with 5-6 hrs being the norm, and have had a 5-8 hr game near weekly. It's just a matter of what you want to prioritize on your weekends.
Beach episode! Another good video Crispy :)
oh dude i'm so HYPED for the new actual play
I absolutely loved Shadow over Kerkonos
Honestly, while people are saying the girl from the harem story wasn't being cooperative. I feel like she found a pretty good compromise. It doesn't seem to be any other plot so it looked like it was mainly just the player character is flirting with the DM with random s*** going on.
Having each character with a backstory that has to be explored for them to interact with this dmpc is more believable than having them all just randomly chased him.
Keeps them on their shoes? Are we not allowed to say toes anymore?
So the first story is clearly someone who watched Ready player one.
12:00 as for an ace attorney thing the two of them are just legit written like former lovers in the "listen we cant say that they dated.... but they dated" way hence the ace attorney Fandom going Phoenix and Edgeworth are husbands your honor
No deep friendships, only romance!
Objection: Dalia Hawthrone and Phoenix were a couple in the games.
@@emberfist8347 Counter Breaker: bisexuals exist.
Players throw you for a loop and head straight for the end of the dungeon? Flip it upside down and make “secret lair” underneath the secret lair that they now have to go backwards through to find
Player: wants to make the gardener robot from Castle in the Sky.
That Guy GM: "robotphobic fascist society campaign it is".
The Scheduling story hit me hard I had a similar problem with a small group and we played I think just three sessions on one campaign including session 0 another campaign had two sessions and another had two sessions. I have three characters is limbo...(or death since busy guy just would rather do random stuff with his friend on the only day that is free.) One guy left due to family problems, another was studying (the forever DM) we had a new guy join and the other guy was too busy...even on weekends. I gave up I doubt I'll ever get to play, since I'm still a newbie)
I searched "can a three-legged cat climb," and found multiple videos immediately. That DM is talking out the back of his neck.
And the last season of _Voltron_ was an unholy mess even if we ignore the 'shippers.
I'm actually gonna agree with the three-legged cat ruling. But I'm pretty sure a 3-legged cat with the intelligence of a PC and experience of a 5th level character can climb a tree. Actually I think any given cat who loses a leg but still has all 15 other claws can climb a tree once it gets used to it.
5:55 - +2 Rapier that does 2d8 fire damage? Bro that outdoes a Wakened Dragon’s Wrath Rapier, and that’s a Very Rare Weapon that costs attunement, what a DM lmao
I feel like the Avatar idea could work, but you have to integrate it better. I have ideas for a setting called Paradisio, who's thing is that its a VR MMO similar to the World from .Hack// (or I guess Sword Art Online, but I prefer .Hack//), which would work on similar rules of characters controlling Avatars in a game, but I'd want to integrate the two worlds much better than this.
The tactical strike at the top of the highest point of the tower reminds me a bit of a moment from the Actual Play show Forge of Lore, only the big boss was actually at the top as he was the target. Steve, the DM, scrambled to get as many enemies up there as quickly as they could, until a certain viewer (okay, it was me) used a chat feature that could literally call in one of the Norse Gods to help the party, so Thor showed up and started fighting off the enemies on the lower floors, completely ruining Steve's plans... great guy, we all had a bit of a chuckle about it afterwards, and more enemies wound up coming in next session anyway.
I swear I had something snarky to say, but I can't remember what it was.
Now you got me thinking out how to play/write a story about an MMO. Like maybe have the "real" world be a simulation genre section where the human earns money to augment their in-game avatars or look up hints/strategies to the game online. Time management could also be a factor like balancing how much players "play" without penalties of during the "game".
@@ArcCaravan Huh that's more than I was thinking, I just thought of having a secondary set of skills/knowledge system that's built off your "real" character.
To use an example from SA:O (Yes, yes I know) like a character having better reaction time with swords because they're trained in kendo. Though obviously not the OP bullshit in SA:O just like a bonus of some kind.
@@shadenox8164 That makes me think of Log Horizon with how players needed both in-game cooking skills and actual culinary knowledge to make food that tastes good.
God, I hate the "I want to play a unique character" and the "I want to give you debuffs for playing that character."
Granted, I as the DM will outline what I'm comfortable with, but it's never OK to just debuff or punish a player even if it "realistic." I have a thing for eyepatches and battle scarred veterans/pirates. Should they all be unable to participate in the adventure? One DM suggested I should have *disadvantage* on all attack rolls and skill checks because I'm missing an eye and I was like "Dude, I might have limited depth perception, but I'm not *blinded*. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be narratively apropriate, I didn't make a one-eyed character who's power is that he can see better than everyone else. Just let the fantastic fantasy be playable or at least give me something cool to make up for that which you mechanically punish on character creation.
Fuggin', I even had one DM say that because I described my greatsword as "Worn, chipped and scratched from various battles with beasts of all sizes" that I should get a -1 to all attack rolls with it! I think that was the same guy I mentioned before. It's just thtat neither of those were mentioned until *after* we started session 1.
Second story reminds me of the board game T.I.M.E. Stories. It's a great game where you play futuristic time cops that go through time fixing temporal rifts by taking control of people close to the problem with usefull skills.
This could have lead to a multi system campaign letting the futuristic people solve different related problem through spacetime :D
Well, it could have been if the DM had treated his players fairly. Hope they learn and get better games. ^^
@CrispysTavern what one shots do you recommend for the OP in the last story? I plan on learning how to DM games with a focus on running oneshots.
i mean she did duck out on the beach episode
......
I used to run 6+ hr sessions w/ my sessions. For 4 years total (5 w/ a year long DM burnout year) Lvl 1-20 multistory campaign.
Is that not normal?
Edit to add// started weekly 8-10hr with 3 players as a newbie 3.x e DM, then shifted after the first year to every other week due to one of my players (my brother) wanting to DM his own 5e campaign and me wanting to try it. 3rd year, shifted to 1 month of my campaign weekly then a month of my brother's then back to mine. 4th year was my burnout year because i was in 4 games total (DM: mine, Player: my brother's, my brother's bestie, and friend of brother's bestie)
5th year, dropped from 8hr sessions to 6hr ones, every other week. Had my epilogue in the first month of what would've been year 6. Ended with 7 players total.
And this is still with an odd 12 hr session every other year, sickness/covid, rescheduling or hyperfocused character(s) time (half the party had to be present), or 1 on 1 side stories.
Three legged cats can absolutely climb
Instead of spending several sessions walking how about we just use the gryphons, insert lotr reference
I have TotSH.
It's a great campaign, but 22/24 the subclasses are hotdog water.
The other 2 are as broken as the American healthcare system.
CRISPY
You should play Phoenix Wright.
I also didn’t care about it until this year. But someone got a hook in me and I binged the first four games plus one spin-off in about two months. (Would have been like two weeks but I tried to only play when I could do a whole case in one sitting.) There’s no reason I think you would like it except it’s good, I like it, and I like a lot of the same things you seem to like.
Is nobody going to mention how Crispy just has an Azura book somehow. What mirror dimension did he get it from.
Beach episode, babeyyyy
NAH BRO HOW DO YOU HAVE THE GOOD WITCH AZULA BOOK
RE: Harem fantasy story... The poster wanted main character status in a game where the GMPC was already the main character...
No beaches!
Was the look listen a wings of redemption reference?
LOOK HERE LOOK LISTEN. APPEARING OFFLINE DOES NOT - bla bla bla I don't remember the rest
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Beach Episode!?
they nerfed the erupter twice....twice