"Your paladin killed a rapist and is no longer lawful." "Ahh, my god was an asshole and not worth following at all. I see, you're looking to deconstruct the alignment system by applying it as stupidly as possible. So I get to switch over to the Oathbreaker sublcass or Anti-Paladin class depending on which edition of D&D this is and get to subvert the idea of a Paladin by being the kind of hero who stops rapists but has powers traditionally evil. And I oppose the kinds of gods who permit rape and unjust laws, while they have powers that are traditionally good. This is very clever, and not at all a transparent attempt to bully a player with bad rulings. It would have been good to know the theme of your campaign before making a character however."
If you can't stop one of your players from describing SAing someone elses character you shouldn't be a DM. It is the job and responsibility of any DM to ensure the wellbeing of their players. Their characters can be ripped and torn like a drunk demon at a Doomguy kegger but the players should never be harmed mentally or, Gods forbid, physically.
Yeah, seriously. The DM failed the rest of the players, and while I'm not going to say they're JUST AS MUCH at fault for what happened, I AM going to say they're damn close to that. Close enough for them to not deserve to DM ever again, anyway.
If it was my table, as soon as the pants went down: "OUT! NOW! Say one more word, and you are banned for life!" I have never and will never tolerate that BS. And anyone who does needs to take stock why
@@pippo17173There was a tabletop horror story where a player got kicked just for saying that phrase when the other players complained about their character saving NPCs over ineffectually attacking the boss. Another story had that same phrase apply to not sparing a traitorous party member just because they're a player character in a Sith campaign. Best response to "it's what my character would do" is "and this is how I respond".
a good tip for playing in character: do not say "it's what my character would do", instead say "my character did this because..." walk through the character's logic instead of using it to justify idiotic actions.
That last story; if I had a DM just sit there and allow a player to assault another player like that, and than told me he was disappointed with me, I say “Im more disappointed that my DM is either blind or lacks a pair of balls and I feel sorry his wife”
Proud of the weeb. He overstepped his boundaries, but acted like an adult when that was pointed out. Sometimes that's just the way things go. Someone lacking social awareness isn't necessarily a bad person, they just aren't used to those situations. Gods know I've been in those situations before, maybe haven't always reacted well to them. But you learn. If you don't learn fast enough, it can cost you a friend.
The thing that baffles me in the last story is WHY did they continue playing with the DM? Just because the toxic player got banned doesn't mean you can trust a DM that even allowed the rape scenario to continue past the guy taking his pants off. I wouldn't just stop playing Id stop being that dudes friend. It's his literal job to intervene on that and set the boundaries to safeguard players. Instead he just sat there and victim blamed the girl whose character was being defiled?
At least the weeb in the last story got better. The DM had zero back bone to point where I'm surprised he's still the DM, and wasn't bullied out of the chair by that other guy.
Dm in the first story got mad at OP for saying they can't do anything each turn because the DM wanted them to try and do something so he could get all smug about them still being sickened. He's pissy they denied him his chance to deny them. Like a child.
Author of “Completely Crippled” here. I’m pleasantly surprised my story got told so soon after submitting! I actually ran into that DM at a D&D meetup some years later but if he recognized me, he didn’t show it. Thanks for the inclusion! Keep up the great content and skits. ❤
Holy Patron: "Okay, so... says here you murdered, pillaged, forced yourself upon the innocent, and downloaded WinRAR without paying for it?!" Paladin: "Yeah, sorry... we were in an evil land where all of that is legal" Holy Patron: "Ah! Well, slap my wings and call me a chicken, why didn't you just say so? You can keep your powers! Good job staying lawful!"
The first story has to be the biggest parody of the alignment system. By DM's logic, the villain could bar all paladins by declaring them forbidden. It's ridiculous.
"I, the BBEG, have taken over this kingdom and made my brand of evil the law of the land!" "Phew, good thing we're all Chaotic aligned. Could you imagine if any of us were lawful?"
Yeah, I always considered lawful as being not to the letter of the law of whatever country you are in but to your own code of morals which may or may not be influenced by the laws of your culture.
@@Tzryylon5 A LG angel goes to the Abyss, gets captured, and refuses to submit to the demons. Submitting to the demons is the law of the land, therefore the angel becomes chaotic. Because what we call evil is also the law of the Abyss, the demons there are good, and the angel becomes CE for defying them. The angel is partially transformed into a demon, but remains in a quantum state. He is CE, but also cannot be transformed into a demon in the Abyss unless he submits to the rulers, but if he submits to the rules he will be LG and will remain an angel. Doubly confusing because the law in the Abyss is chaos. What a Dumdum Master.
Story 1- as many civil rights heroes have demonstrated, unjust laws should always be ignored, obstructed and defied. If a law saws 'kick puppies' then of course you need to break it and do civil unrest until its no longer a law...!!! I hope this guy is on a watch list.
@@dr3dg352 I was under the impression that the elf assault was just intended as bait for the paladin rather than DM's desire, no different than any story with SA.
Oath of Devotion Tenet: Compassion - Aid others, protect the weak, and punish those who threaten them. Show mercy to your foes, but temper it with wisdom. I'm sorry. Maybe I'm going blind...but I'm failing to see the caveat that says "Only applies if done unlawfully"
Earlier editions of D&D had the Paladin alignment locked to Lawful Good. I'm guessing the DM was "old school" in that he applied that rule to 5e because it was so much fun harassing paladin players with it in 3.5e.
@@davidtherwhanger6795 Okay, immediate you're wrong. It was defined as blind obedience to the law of the land in this very story. Now is it defined as blind obedience to the law of the land in the rules of D&D? No, of course not. But D&D still has Rule 0 which ultimately gives the DM the ability to interpret or change things as they see fit. So that's not a winning argument either. Understand I'm not defending the DM. I think he intentionally abused the power given to him by the rules of D&D to harass and bully a player. But since I'm not defending the DM I feel it's useful to note you're making the same argument he did. You're both appealing to a personal interpretation of the rules as binding to other players. Your interpretation is better for me personally, but also completely meaningless at his table. It is more productive, in this context, to argue that your interpretation is better, not that your interpretation is correct.
@@Jermbot15 Actually I am using the definitions supplied by D&D over multiple editions. Calling that MY interpretation of the rule and claiming it to be just as valid as this DM interpretation is invalid as I was using the core principle of the game available to all before game play started. And if the DM does redefine core principles of the game that must be made aware to the Players before the game starts or before any penalties are applied. Other wise the core principles stand.
The “Elves have no rights and so the 🍇 was legal” ruling implies that the will & desires of the Gods vary between municipalities and are dependent on the laws of mortals. Which makes no sense. That DM just wanted to be an asshole/wanted to roleplay a 🍇 scene and was salty that his fun got ruined. Leaving that table was definitely the right move.
Behind the Scenes Story. I heard this one a little while back. And I still can not fathom why Strahd would want an heir. Or even need one for that matter. I swear some DM's are more into showcasing their fetish than actually thinking about what their villain would actually do. I could see Strahd trying to make everyone his minion. I could see Strahd trying to make everyone his puppets, to dance to what ever tune he wants, manipulating them left and right for his own amusement. I can not see Strahd trying to make what would become his own rival.
I'm pretty sure that the book states that he wants an heir because he thinks that would let him escape barovia, I personally don't think that it would but then again, I'm not Strahd
@@chrischris2640 It says he hopes to find some one worthy to rule in his stead as he thinks the dark powers that cursed him will accept such a person as his replacement. But he ultimately decides no one is worthy to replace him. It also says he sometimes takes those that remind him of Tatyana and turns them into Vampire Spawn. But none of that speaks of him doing the deed with any of them as that absolutely will not work with undead. Also to be his equal, they would have to be able to rival his power. And therefore be a rival. Not a pawn.
I just gotta say, you have an impressive emotional maturity. The thing you said about being sympathetic to how you affect others even if you're going through something is something I don't hear often. It seems pretty common for people to justify any behavior just because of their own personal matters affecting them.
Some people *really* should not run Curse of Strahd! I feel like I was extremely lucky whenever I listen to these stories. My DM for that made clear that it was horror and there would be upsetting content, but still asked us if we had anything we specifically did not want to see. He also promised in session zero that whenever there's a particularly disturbing session, we would talk about it afterward, basically a mental health check-in for everybody, and that's how he ran it. He's a really great DM, and now he's running Descent into Avernus for our group. I do wonder about the back story from the things barb said about OP.
I think it needs to be said that Paladins and other similar classes that have a *lawful* restriction should be beholden to the laws of their deity or patron before the law of the land, unless it's specified by a subclass or similar feature to be the law of the land, like an evil paladin who draws their power from Imperial might following the laws of the evil empire their order is an arm of.
It was also an oath of devotion, which has nothing to do with the laws of the land. I know because I was picking between devotion and crown oaths before. And with oath of the crown, it's only the laws of their own lands that count. At least, afaik.
My god that last dude is every female D&D player's worst nightmare. And the fact that the DM let it get that far is VERY concerning. Good on weeb guy for redeeming himself though. Oof that story definitely shivered my timbers.
There is no bad mood in the first story, only a bad DM. And yes, the DM viscously, and I'm guessing, maliciously alter the sickened condition. Signed a 3.5 player.
@@jordanhunter3375 I'd have to check my books to know for sure, but too long in most cases. I think there is some variability depending on the source too.
Intro: got the vibe dm was gonna pull a GOTCHA on the paladin either way. At least op decided to leave right away. Incel vs. Simp: Big yikes. (Hears the rest of the story) EXTRA LARGE YIKES.
The first/intro story reminds me of a somewhat sketchy DM I had for some games back when I first started playing TTRPGs in the Navy: He would have not only punished Paladin for breaking the law for stopping the thug from what he was about to do, but he would have also punished the Paladin for not doing anything (he thought he was so clever by forcing "Catch 22 situations" like that on Lawful Good characters), and said DM is why, with one exception, I have only ever played Neutral Good characters in TTRPGs for the past 24 years. Still, good on that person for just walking out on that shitty DM... There are a number of times I wish I would have done the same over the years.
The Stradt that never happened story: I suspect DM has a pregnancy fetish and was angry with OP for ruining things. Last story: DM was an utter failure for letting that stuff happen.
I haven't played in years, but I've been enjoying the channel enormously. I'm from the original edition days - the softcover blue manual of the late 70's. (Yes, I lived through that first Satanic Panic. It was wild, kids.)There were no session zeroes, no boundary discussions, young women and girls played at their own risk in a lot of ways. Bad things can still happen, sure, but it's good to see what's considered normal and what's considered toxic these days.
First DM clearly had no grasp on the alignment system at all. Dude needs to reread the PHB and maybe put his glasses on this time. (He's also just an overall POS for pretty much defending the SA of that elf. "Well, it's legal in this country, so you're wrong for stopping it.")
Interesting how the 30-something obvious neckbeard nice guy™️ wasn’t the biggest creep in the room, while the dude who was actually the victim’s age was.
Welp, while Weeb was an issue at first he definitely learned and stepped back. And pretty sure Film Club Girl got herself, and to paraphrase the Drake ll of girl boss badass energy to have a hollowed out bible with a gun in it for home security.
"What's the crossover between D&D and PUAs?" My dude, it's huge. D&D is one of the main hobbies that produce that kind of loser. White/Cis/Masc 15-25 Main hobby is mainstream but with a nerdy reputation or past That is literally the top 3 risk factors.
Intro Story: So if orcs are attacking the town, and are burning down houses, and the paladin kills them when they get to the ward where the elves live, does he lose his powers because he didn't stop them when they were burning down the human ward? What a weird world. Good on OP for leaving.
I'm guessing DM would say the orcs aren't people so killing them would be no worse than the NPC assaulting an elf. Still stupid and not worth playing with.
Second story, instead of telling OP he isn’t fit for the campaign, DM decided to play Mean Girls with OP with all this BS, going as far as planning to kill them off in the campaign. Needless to say, OP dodged a fucking bullet on this one.
"[...]has been watching the wrong kind of dating coach on RUclips[...]" implies the existence of a right kind of dating coach on RUclips, which I somehow don't believe to exist so far.
@@sussusamogus4714 lol someone doesn’t get it. Men would rather talk to a brick wall cause women will use what men say against them. So I agree, there are much better ways to catharsis then women! I’m so glad we agree
Feels important to say that Murder House is just the normal start for Strahd. Idk why they called it a stress test. More of a meat grinder if anything.
I played a good paladin who was lawful in a dystopian evil setting. My description of his alignment was that he had a strict code, an unbending view of right and wrong that he held himself to. He rejected the laws of society and followed a higher law. But also, alignment is kinda stupid and meaningless and should really only be used as guidelines for the GM to control monsters or flavor gods on the fly.
Crispy calling the Film Club Girl FCG instantly made me think of Sam’s character in Critical Role Fresh Cut Grass because he’s also called FCG for short.
CoC Oneshot? As in *that* CoC? Fenexo CoC? Because that setting isn't just asking for trouble, it's on its hands and knees in gimp gear BEGGING for trouble.
I hate knowing exactly what you're talking about, i hate it i hate it ahhhhh I hope someone knocks on your door when you're about to eat your cereals so they're all soggy when you return
0:48 If i was the player. this would’ve resulted in real world violence. At the very least, I would end up screaming and red-faced like a child throwing a tantrum.
What's funny is a world where lawful characters had to literally follow the LAW of the land, no matter what it was, or they lose their powers, would be pretty hilarious. But yeah that's not in any way how a paladin works. Their lawful code is INTERNAL!
Just gotta ask: What is it with weird dms and pregnancy? I've been hearing more about pregnancy in r/rpghorrorstories than when I was first taught the birds and the bees!
Impreganation fantasies are a fairly common trope in hentai, so it wouldn't suprise me if some people got a kink out of that, unfortunately. Of course, there's no way of knowing if that DM specifically consumes that kind of content
I don't understand it either. And as for the frequency of it, I was in the Navy and have heard about more people impregnating others with these horror stories than I did in the Navy.
Ngl, with that last story, even as a player I would immediately take that above table before that fight ended. Like, either take those clowns outside for a serious dressing down or get the other players to leave because that was not okay.
Guys who watch these Alpha male types need to ask the question? Does this guy actually have a girlfriend? Most of these types of men who are offering advice can’t hold down a real relationship which should be enough to tell you how much their advice is worth.
I have a phobia myself but I usually keep it more a veil than a line. This is because my phobia is around needles and other sharp objects under the skin. I have worked really hard on making it so this phobia doesn’t interfere with my regular day to day. I can still go get the shots I need in a timely manner, I can still do my work and training as a nursing assistant. I am a very stubborn person who doesn’t like being told no about such things (other peoples’s boundaries are not included in this stubbornness streak). So yeah, been working for many years on that. I have been very lucky that my DM’s (I play at multiple tables) and I have all been able to work out how to veil this phobia so I’m not feeling the effects of it during the game. Namely, vague descriptions is how. This was particularly important because I usually play an archer and I’ve even played a blood cleric before. I have no actual problem with gore or vivid descriptions that aren’t about sharp objects, but yeah, the small needle like things, can’t deal. Immediate hair raising up my arms and a chill down my spine and not in a fun way, the kind that comes just before you get the actual fight or flight. Now, I actually like horror (the genre) though. I’m also pretty good at it. I don’t dm but I’ve helped various DM’s and my brother construct some short campaigns and oneshots for the horror genre. I make it clear that tension and staging is the true key to good horror. Lots of “made you look” type of things. I haven’t actually gotten to play in one of the horror ones I have helped write up but I’m always told by the dm and even some of the other players if I know them, that they loved it. I know a lot of that is putting it into the right hands of the right dm, but it feels nice that I’ve not had a bad review. Now, one very big thing I construct with this is also a list of things for the dm to ask of the players before they run the game. Namely, phobias, fears, and other triggers. And I help the dm construct a rough alternative method of incorporating something so they don’t lose the horror feel but still accommodate the player’s boundaries. I very much take pride in this part and it has helped each time. So yeah. As someone who loves constructing the horror stuff, I’m at least glad that the dm Keeper, learned their lesson and now does session zero. It’s the most important session you’ll ever have.
4:39 It may have been the Nauseated condition Nauseated: Experiencing stomach distress. Nauseated creatures are unable to attack, cast spells, concentrate on spells, or do anything else requiring attention. The only action such a character can take is a single move action per turn. That still doesn't explain why they can only move half speed.
Even with the Gaming Club Guy getting banned from the store, I don't think I'd feel comfortable going back to a table run by that DM. At best he's just a dumbass who values the game itself rather than the player's safety and will let other bad stuff happen at the table bc of that, at worst he actually doesn't think what Gaming Club Guy did was as bad as it was, in which case I'd rather not associate with DM at all.
What I never understand with some of these stories, certainly the last one. Is what are these DM's doing?! Or even thinking?! Just allowing this crap to happen! Bad player and a shitty DM!
They probably think, "Guys, c'mon. Just let me play my game. It matters more to me than your stupid feelings." DMs aren't the only people at a table who can think that way.
In the last story, I seriously expected the older guy to be the worst of the two, that's how things usually turn out. On the other hand, it's very normal that teenage boys have trouble accepting that their privates aren't the centre of the universe as well as the primary object of desire for all females.
Huh. If weeb truly did change after being told off by the other player, fair play to them. Not everyone is able to actually change instead of doubling down on the problematic behaviour. Honestly hope the dude continued to change for the better.
You know how bad the incel in the last story was when the weeb simp in the story, with more than 10 years on the others, isn't the main problem of the story.
Thank God she got a home security system after that, that scene should genuinely be treated as a personal rape threat. Which is some next level DnD horror.
17:11 every time my best friend comes over, he turns on your channel to play in the background. Please, save me... I don't know how much longer I can go on like this... 😅
I think it’s funny that you didn’t get the League of legends reference in the second story Ezreal is a league Character who’s an archeologist and a marksman
whenever you find a store offering an intro game for new players and the GM is poop, it speaks volumes about the management of the store. If the GM does not make the game fun and engaging for the new people it is not creating new customers for the store. The whole point of these events is to convert curious into customers. If the store manager does not step up and run a basic game and terminate the GM who is being rude then it shows he values, A his friend the GM more than money (not a bad thing) B the GM more than new customers - a bad thing for a store, C his friend more than the Game That speaks so much about whether it want to go to that store again, clearly they are not someone who is truly about the game and wanting to introduce it to new people. They have seen the store as a way of converting a hobby into money, (a valid reason) but they have let the idea of them generating the money change their view of introducing new people to it. Meaning bad as managing, bad in running a company, bad as customer facing. Basically a bad store. Yes the GM might be terrible but the Store manager is the one who allows them to do that.
17:05 story 3: I do think the whole "bringing player fears into the game" could work if you change it to being the characters fears. possibly by having each one have a deep rooted phobia of something. then using that instead of the players deep rooted phobias.
With story 3, I would have told the game shop owner how the DM also bent the rules to let the incel attack the girl character with no backup, and then let his character RAPE HER CHARACTER!!! NO ONE THAT ALLOWS THAT SHOULD BE DM!!! Ya know, assuming there weren't already a session 0 where everyone said they were ok with it. I know people can be bad with confrontation, but with that and the fact that he said he was "disappointed" in the guys for leaving the game leads me to believe that he actually blamed the girl for ruining the game instead of the incel and the "nice guy". If he were simply bad at confrontation, he wouldn't have been to quick to make it impossible for the other guys to wake up and wouldn't have pulled that BS about being "DiSaPpOiNtEd"! Overall a disgusting display of a lack of care for the girl player. I hope that at the very least, he apologized his BUTT OFF to the gamer girl, then did everything he could to make any future games with her amazingly fun!
ONG, seemsw that some players take the DND like a full time job with some sort of commitment. When I heard about "no leniency for mental health issues, no pausing" I thought: WOW, will he be paying the psychological session afterwards for you? It is a game, it should be fun to play, otherwise why involve into something that does not bring any fun, relaxation or entertainment? Like isn't your full time job already stressful enough?
a lawful good character does not actually have to obey local laws, but rather preferres, a structured life to any other. often times, this meant that a set of codified laws need to be followed and as a paladin the laws of your god supercedes all worldly law, if it werent so you would be f'ed as soo as you stepp into the hells coz evil is law there, blindly following the law is more the "lawful neutral" schtick bad DM
@@ArcCaravan that is absolut true, they just have a propensity to follow law but they dont have to be lawful or neutral stupid, one dimensional characters...and the alignment system at large is flawed af, i only use it as a general rule of thumb than a defining metric
Hello. I enjoy your podcasts. Although I don't play TTRPGs, these stories were quite interesting to explore. And this reminded me of a horror story that I had during my Text RPGs, which was the only one in my 5 (or 7? With other words, I play since 13 y.o starting from 2011) years of roleplaying - to my fortune, but was the one that cooled down my interest entirely in collective RPGs - to my misfortune. When I heard more stories, I recalled this story and I cannot brush it off now, because the old feelings are again at my footstep. Not native English speaker, very sorry for the possible mistakes, inappropriate dramatism and length (for the last one I especially apologize). I developed the text RPGs interest myself - no friend recommended to me this genre. When I entered the 1st year university I met a girl who become my friend for the next 3 years, and invited me to that "doomed" forum. It was a Harry Potter themed forum, that my friend registered, and then she recommended it to me, because she liked it: the plot, the rules, the players, the owner, and the "DM" to which I will refer further as the Moderator. Here I need to digress and present my friend, or just Friend. She was a girl, with a very sweet personality, very kind, willing to help, fun get along with. She had this issue of getting attached to people who were kind to her and with whom she had great time. She was the person who would not expect people to be mean especially out of nowhere. And she liked roleplaying, adored HP, I would say she was the expert in the fandom. And - what is very important for her and is very appealing to me - are her posts, which were very aesthetically pleasant to read. She presented me this forum, and her excitement about it transferred to me. However, we needed to get our characters approved by the Moderator before we start playing. Now about the Moderator. The Friend started chatting with this guy about the character and the RPG topics, and with time she just got interested in him in general. I first never though of the Moderator as a problem person: he was strict, indeed, but as I thought, he was just very meticulous about the lore. I love HP, but I'm not a fan, and some lore particularities would slip my attention, so I was willing to trust him. Also I always had the idea of being respectful to other's interests no matter how less they meant to me, and I planned to be very careful so not to spoil the joy, and not to hurt the feelings of the HP fans who were plenty there. The Moderator disapproved my character first, gave me a list of recommendations, and our communication went further in social media because some info I didn't understand, and I really wanted to play the game. I was already active in the out-of-game themes, already had plans for my characters and some ideas whom to play with. With other words, I felt very hyped. The Moderator was very willing to help, and soon my character passed the "face control", although I had to change the ides of her, but I still liked the direction. I was free to play, and I was happy, until my first post. Me and the Friend developed an interaction. We started with our posts, and the first my post was commented by the Moderator, as I have done sometghing allogical from the lore perspective. He told me that the "LeviOsa not LeviosA" spell does not make people levitate, although my Friend who was also very knowlegeable about the lore told that it was not a problem. However we trusted the Moderator, I apologized and changed the writing after I listened to his recommendations how we could make it "lore-friendly". Then the next post, and here we go again, I wrote something that seemed to him wrong, I again listened to his recommendations, and corrected my post. Shave me bald and call me an opposum if I remeber what that was about - the story happened in 2017, and my brain rejects my attempts to recall what had happened at the time. But at some point I didn't feel the gameplay funny anymore, and my motivation was dropped. But there was my Friend that always raised my interest with her roleplaying stories with her character, the plot, with her communication with the Moderator. Her energy helped me to overcome my procrastination, and advance our character's stories. She invited few more friends from our previous FRPG experience, and then she crated few more characters so she could get along with everyone. Creating few more characters was not forbidden by the rules - if you can play with them and not disupt the dynamic of the gameplay then it was fine. The Friend was able to manipulate them all and timely respond with a quality post - she was more productive than me with my only character. However the owner and the Moderator in particular felt uncomfortable with her creating more charaters and asked her to not do this anymore. She could have played with the already created characters but no more new. (This will be a very long story, I am very sorry. Will continue in the first comment )
The Friend understood everything, acknowledged, and stick to her already created characters. And it was not a problem if not my tongue. Once in the out-of-game themes on that forum we and other players discussed my Friend's character in a satirical manner - nothing offensive, it was a playful interaction that my Friend liked as well. The Moderator was chatting with us as well. I joked something like: "be cautious otherwise she'll bring in a new character", meaning that she's really dedicated to the game. The moderator replied with as I thought with a comment and a laughing smile (!!!!): "Oh realy, she will?". We skipped the topic and continued the discussion, then I closed the PC and went to do my stuff. In 10 or so minutes my Friend called me and said very stressed and very disappointed: "Why did I tell the Moderator that she is going to create a new character?". She was nearly crying, saying that the Moderator scolded her very rudely because she's going to create a new character, which she never intended. But I never said that. It was a joke. I told her, invited her to see the conversation, showed her the screens of the chat - I was joking, nothing more, no other intentions. Also I didn't remeber her talking about a new character that she planned to bring, and in the end - she was forbidden from doing so, why she'd break the rules of a game she was so invested in? She told me that: "Sometimes you need to think before talk". And I broke. I had very mixed feelings, and as a very emotive person I felt myh feelings with my skin: I was feeling guilty and miserable because I caused my friend to suffer, and from other side very anger because - WTF was this? WTF wrong I did? I joked like other people, nothing offensive or suspicious, and even if so - instead of addressing me directly "Why did I said so?", or request my clarifications, the Moderator acted like nothing happened, went directly to the Friend, and - without a single question, confirmation or like anything, started scolding her and threatening her. He already was an inportant person for her at this moment, she talked about him a lot, she was more than kind to him, very friendly, very open, she asked me even to make together a video postcard for him for his birthday - and in the end this is happening, WTF!. She's not even the one who should had faced the consequences - it was me who said bulls"t and no the other way around! And me - I was already done with Moderator's constant complaints with my roleplay, but now I cannot even joke in the out-of-game themes? Am I a part of FBI or a whatever RPG forum? I just started feeling very uncomfortable with my limit of agency, and my motivation who already was hanging off the cliff like a mucus on the ogre's nose - now it crippled. I was not willing to stay there anymore. I have shared my desire too leave in the respective theme that was designed for leave-topics and break requests, I was very vague around my reason, so not to instigate any further conflict, and signed out with the intention to never come back. But the story didn't stop here. Everyone on the forum got informed immediately about my leave, since all the newcomers would register to that particular theme, so they all got the notification about my message. The Moderator contacted me immediately, asking why I decided to leave. I gave some ok explanations, politely said that posting in the game took me more real time than I intended, and that was the graduation year (if I'm not mistaken), so no time to play. He seemed to be ok with my words, wished me good luck, encouraged me to write if I want to stay in contact (no way I would have been willing)... and jumped into the private dicussion with the Friend scolding her again for "making me leave the forum". Of course I got to know about it, she called me again, crying and asking me to return, because Moderator was very mad at her, and she didn't know what to do. He gaslighted her with some random bullsh"" about how manic and manipulative she is (like what?), and that she's at fault here. I felt so sorry for her, but I said that I will not. I don't know how I formulated the answer, but I was so pissed off Moderator's behaviour that at the time I could be only more than expressive. And what was more crazy - she still cared about him after everything he told her! I tried to explain her that this guy is crazy - he behaves like a creep, he's aggressive, he's venting his anger on her for absolutely NO reason! And again, instead of asking me directly, he goes to her - and I was never the kind of person who would hide such a thing. If I am asked to give a feedback, I would be frank, if I say something I face the consequences willingly. I was never too shy to stand up for myself and never had the behaviour of a person who would need help. Like - why? Then the Owner of the forum contacted her, seemingly not aware of the situation but willing to understand what was going on under his feet (knew only the Moderator's part of the story). As the Friend told me afterwards that he scolded her too. Then he came to me, and asked me directly what happened FINALLY! So I told him everything: how I inappropriatedly joked, how Moderator behaved, my feelings, the guilt , the anger, my frustration about how he treats the Friend, and how powerless I feel in this situation, because although I am the cause, yet the Friend is the target of a bullying out of nowhere - and it was indeed a bullying. And the game meant for her so much that she was hurt - very much hurt, and she continued being attacked by people she cared without a possibility to fight back. She was just not that person. And she asked me particualrily not to go into a fight with the Moderator, what I didn't intend regardless, because I already understood that it would makie the cr{{ much worse - this guy just didn't listen and deducted whatever he pleased. The Owner listened to me, apologized and we never talked again. Not sure if any of them apologized to the Friend ever. And although this situation ended here for me, but it didn't end for her. She stayed at that forum - she still had the friends that she invited. She tried to start over the friendly interation with the Moderator, and I am not sure if they did (either she never mentioned or I forgot). However he never stopped nitpicking her in the game. He would create disadvantages to her character, laughing at him, creating almost-death conditions for him (she played a male character). I was sure he intentionally targeted her, and she... well, she was in denial. She kept telling me about the in game encounters with the Moderator, her feelings about that, and I felt guilty. I don't know if she forgave me, this topic slipped us somehow. It was too unpleasant and particularily disgusting to recall the events, and I don't remenber if I properly apologized to her besides my "I'm sorry girl, but he's a piece of (paste here your text)". This guy at that time was 27 and he was a school teacher. We and Friend were 21 or 20 yo. Thank you for your attention (and I address it to everyone who laid their eyes on this wattery piece of text). I appreciate that you made it until the end.
The first DM I ever had was a stickler for rules, even when he interpreted them wrong He was also overtly sexual, session 0 he had us split into girl group and guy group, ran separate sessions The guys had a normal start, us girls encountered a giant.... naked. He went into detail about how his D was hard from just waking up and went into detail about how it waved around and stuff. We ended up just chasing the giant away Later in a different game most of our team got captured and we had to make new characters, I asked what was gunna happen to the old ones, I was expecting a jail break session or smth along those lines But no. He informed me that my blue tiefling girl was now a sxx slave and that she was a "rich lords favorite because she had wings" and the other characters were all assumed dead except the cat girl, she was also a slave There was a lot of little things that kept happening that made a few of us uncomfortable but we put up with it because it was our first time around and didn't know any other DMs He even ERPd one session instead of fading to black despite everyone else trying to stop him (except the one person who was oddly into all of this shit and fueled it more)
Allow me to play Devil's advocate for the first DM's concept... The idea of an area essentially flipping the alignment system on its head and making certain characters lose their powers is an interesting concept. This could lead to very interesting role-playing. For example... 1. The paladin swears to stick my their morals despite the awful circumstances. 2. The paladin is able to trick an evil god into letting them borrow some power so that they can fight back evil whilst trying to remain morally righteous. 3. The paladin damns themselves and harnesses the powers of a dark god to bring vengeance and death upon evil. This in no way is an attempt to excuse what the DM was trying to do. I just thought the idea was kinda cool.
True facts I think when I do DM my first campaign, part of the player consent form will be the understanding that The DM Will Not Allow Players To Commit Intimiate Assault On Other Players Or NPCs. I Do Not Consent To Participating In That Kind Of Content, And It Is Not Welcome At My Table. Figure putting it right up front makes enforcement easier.
The one thing that always gets me is your pronounciation of some words, like "hweird" instead of "weird" xd Great stories though, or, well, I guess, not great stories? Props to weeb guy in the last story though, to a degree. Yeah, he was weird and creepy, but once told off, he owned it and behaved properly. Probably does have to do with his age though, no matter how weird you are, you still have some maturity at that age. Though sad it had to come to that in the first place, but you gotta see the good in the bad at least somewhere I guess.
Regarding the paladin alignment story from the beginning. Having the DM ruling alignment that way takes away so much of the fun of the game. At least in 5E, alignment is mostly there to enhance role play. It doesn't really have much effect on game mechanics. That being said, here are my thoughts on alignment. Good vs Evil. How much is the character focused on the needs of others vs themselves. Extreme Good would take care of random others even if it means harm to themselves. Extreme Evil only cares about themselves. They may help other, but only when they also benefit. Lawful vs Chaotic isn't following one specific country's laws. Does the character have a set of moral laws? Do they treat others the same regardless of situation. Extreme lawful follows the book to the letter. Ot doesn't matter if they made up the rules or if someone else did. They will follow those rules with no wiggle room. Extreme chaotic evaluates each situation individually. What they do one day may be complete opposite the next day. There are a lot of factors and no one really knows why. Earlier in the year, I thought through the US political candidates and tried to determine their alignment. Full disclosure: I am rather liberal. Mike Pence, I believe, is Lawful Neutral to Lawful Good. He has a clear set of rules that he will follow not matter what. I personally don't like his decisions, but he follows these laws because he wants to do the most good for others. Donald Trump on the other hand is Chaotic Evil. His laws change on the day and situation. And his focus is on himself and he can get, or what is happening to him.
The Intro Story would only work if there is a Oath of Law and Order Paladin and/or God of Laws that governs over all Laws in the Mortal World and is obsessively about Laws and punish Lawbreakers that includes his Paladins.
Story 2: if the other organizer came up to me and tried to make excuses for that DM I'd let him know, that the DM is a jerk, your just a big of a jerk for trying to apologize for him, and until he gets rid of DM any event he runs is gonna flop
A horror story is kind of developing in the Strahd game I'm in. We were supposed to be 5 players, with a group of Dragonborn Fighter, Elf Oathbreaker Paladin, Human Necromancer, Human Warlock and & Cleric (Exorcist). But that player had to drop out due to scheduling. And now I. The Oathbreaker, who I built to be damaged focused, have to ache and groan every session as the ONLY. SOURCE. OF. HEALING! With the fighter having been a DICK ABOUT IT at least once. I don't wanna be the primary healer of the party, but we really do need a healer and I think I need to talk with the DM of a way to make things easier for me on the battlefield, so I can focus on what I made my character to be fun at doing, rather than hemm and haw at every fight, be it started by the enemy or the boistrous fighter (which almost happened last session)
I would have been fine with the first DM if he had simply told the player beforehand about how the oath works and said “I want to make a complex morality system where you have to decide what’s the best course of action and accept the consequences.” This would be an interesting campaign if the DM was intentional and transparent and not just misinterpreting the rules and then being an ass about it.
Once a dm i had dissolved our game because he wanted to run it for my ex girlfriend, whom he'd started dating after her falling out with rest of the friend group lol. It caused sort of chain reaction that saw a bunch of people getting cut off- the ones who sided with him left and the ones with me stayed. Funnily enough he was also my ex at one point lol
It’s not a sin to not use safety tools. They are pretty lame too. How about if you play with strangers, restrain yourself from using your really weird fetishes in the game?
Girl in the last one should have reported him to the school and cops if they had to up home security that means there was a probability if threats take screen shots and wellnmaybe help fix that guys life cause if he keeps that up all he is going to do is hurt people
"Your paladin killed a rapist and is no longer lawful."
"Ahh, my god was an asshole and not worth following at all. I see, you're looking to deconstruct the alignment system by applying it as stupidly as possible. So I get to switch over to the Oathbreaker sublcass or Anti-Paladin class depending on which edition of D&D this is and get to subvert the idea of a Paladin by being the kind of hero who stops rapists but has powers traditionally evil. And I oppose the kinds of gods who permit rape and unjust laws, while they have powers that are traditionally good. This is very clever, and not at all a transparent attempt to bully a player with bad rulings. It would have been good to know the theme of your campaign before making a character however."
Brilliant!
That's lawful neutral not lawful good.
@@kylemendoza8860 Perfect justice is the exclusive realm of God's and the divine.
The rest of us do the best we can.
If you can't stop one of your players from describing SAing someone elses character you shouldn't be a DM. It is the job and responsibility of any DM to ensure the wellbeing of their players. Their characters can be ripped and torn like a drunk demon at a Doomguy kegger but the players should never be harmed mentally or, Gods forbid, physically.
Yeah, seriously. The DM failed the rest of the players, and while I'm not going to say they're JUST AS MUCH at fault for what happened, I AM going to say they're damn close to that. Close enough for them to not deserve to DM ever again, anyway.
If it was my table, as soon as the pants went down: "OUT! NOW! Say one more word, and you are banned for life!"
I have never and will never tolerate that BS. And anyone who does needs to take stock why
There is no freaking way this was just negligence , the DM was another sicko . He stopped the party . Wanna bet they planned before the session?
@@bouncycomixum.. the DM was the one who made the thug.
Story 1: It's refreshing to see a player get up and leave from a situation that they don't like rather than sitting around and being unhappy about it.
Leaving and not dealing with nonsense, you love to see it 💪
Less desperate attachment.
"No dnd is still better than bad dnd"
- Someone, I guess
Reminded me of the story a short while back in which the girl playing a cleric just left after being pestered into becoming a god's bride way too much
@@Nyx685something tells me that the role of "god's bride" in that situation was a lot darker than just a symbolic title...
The problem with that first DM is simple.
He read Lawful Good, and forgot that half of that equation requires being *Good.*
It was a catch 22. Intervene, oops! Not lawful! Don’t intervene. Not good.
yep, real "no matter what you do you lose" vibes
Nah! DM is just piece of trash who needed his ass kicked.
And believing that by being "lawful" a paladin is only required to follow the local laws rather than the rules of his order.
It’s an absolute paradox of morality. If he intervenes it’s “unlawful” if he doesn’t it’s evil aka NOT good. Makes no sense.
Remember. "It's what my character would do" is not a valid excuse for toxic behavior.
Should be a instant kick the moment its used.
@@pippo17173There was a tabletop horror story where a player got kicked just for saying that phrase when the other players complained about their character saving NPCs over ineffectually attacking the boss. Another story had that same phrase apply to not sparing a traitorous party member just because they're a player character in a Sith campaign.
Best response to "it's what my character would do" is "and this is how I respond".
"Its what my character would do."
Then you shouldnt have made the character that way to begin with.
a good tip for playing in character: do not say "it's what my character would do", instead say "my character did this because..."
walk through the character's logic instead of using it to justify idiotic actions.
It is however a valid excuse for when the one player that will fight but will always try persuasion first, tries to persuade the BBEG from being evil
That last story; if I had a DM just sit there and allow a player to assault another player like that, and than told me he was disappointed with me, I say “Im more disappointed that my DM is either blind or lacks a pair of balls and I feel sorry his wife”
The DM in the last story was a such a big enabler that he’s villain number 2 of that story.
Second worst, third chronologically.
The last story's DM was beyond incompetent
So many scummy players let off the hook by DM's and players who feel the game is more important than the victim(s).
That's not incompetent. At that point, it was straight up enabling!!!
Proud of the weeb. He overstepped his boundaries, but acted like an adult when that was pointed out. Sometimes that's just the way things go. Someone lacking social awareness isn't necessarily a bad person, they just aren't used to those situations. Gods know I've been in those situations before, maybe haven't always reacted well to them. But you learn. If you don't learn fast enough, it can cost you a friend.
Everyone has made bad choices in social situations, as long as you learn and improve (and apologise if it is needed), all's well.
The thing that baffles me in the last story is WHY did they continue playing with the DM? Just because the toxic player got banned doesn't mean you can trust a DM that even allowed the rape scenario to continue past the guy taking his pants off. I wouldn't just stop playing Id stop being that dudes friend. It's his literal job to intervene on that and set the boundaries to safeguard players. Instead he just sat there and victim blamed the girl whose character was being defiled?
At least the weeb in the last story got better. The DM had zero back bone to point where I'm surprised he's still the DM, and wasn't bullied out of the chair by that other guy.
Probably wasn't attacked by incel because of the enabling. Definitely the type who prioritizes the game as it was over anyone getting harassed.
@@ArcCaravanHe is one of the attackers. the weird check tells me he wanted to happen
Dm in the first story got mad at OP for saying they can't do anything each turn because the DM wanted them to try and do something so he could get all smug about them still being sickened. He's pissy they denied him his chance to deny them. Like a child.
Weeb handled that like a regular human being who had a crush but their attraction isn't reciprocated. gamer club guy is why women pick the bear.
Author of “Completely Crippled” here. I’m pleasantly surprised my story got told so soon after submitting! I actually ran into that DM at a D&D meetup some years later but if he recognized me, he didn’t show it. Thanks for the inclusion! Keep up the great content and skits. ❤
Holy Patron: "Okay, so... says here you murdered, pillaged, forced yourself upon the innocent, and downloaded WinRAR without paying for it?!"
Paladin: "Yeah, sorry... we were in an evil land where all of that is legal"
Holy Patron: "Ah! Well, slap my wings and call me a chicken, why didn't you just say so? You can keep your powers! Good job staying lawful!"
Who knew holy patrons (generally gods) would bend the knee to whatever legal body is nearby.
@@ArcCaravan oh absolutely, by this DM's logic, the laws made by mortals supercede all divine commandments on the material plane.
Paladin in Menzoberranzam going on a murder spree cuz when in Rome....
The first story has to be the biggest parody of the alignment system. By DM's logic, the villain could bar all paladins by declaring them forbidden.
It's ridiculous.
"I, the BBEG, have taken over this kingdom and made my brand of evil the law of the land!"
"Phew, good thing we're all Chaotic aligned. Could you imagine if any of us were lawful?"
Yeah, I always considered lawful as being not to the letter of the law of whatever country you are in but to your own code of morals which may or may not be influenced by the laws of your culture.
Rain World PFP spotted
@@Tzryylon5
A LG angel goes to the Abyss, gets captured, and refuses to submit to the demons. Submitting to the demons is the law of the land, therefore the angel becomes chaotic. Because what we call evil is also the law of the Abyss, the demons there are good, and the angel becomes CE for defying them. The angel is partially transformed into a demon, but remains in a quantum state. He is CE, but also cannot be transformed into a demon in the Abyss unless he submits to the rulers, but if he submits to the rules he will be LG and will remain an angel. Doubly confusing because the law in the Abyss is chaos. What a Dumdum Master.
@@metagames.errata7777 call that "Schrodinger's Alignment"
Story 1- as many civil rights heroes have demonstrated, unjust laws should always be ignored, obstructed and defied. If a law saws 'kick puppies' then of course you need to break it and do civil unrest until its no longer a law...!!! I hope this guy is on a watch list.
Watch list for a smug "gotcha" DM sounds like overkill.
@@ArcCaravan Fair, but I think the "watch list" thing may be referring to the DM describing the legal SA of an elf.
@@dr3dg352 I was under the impression that the elf assault was just intended as bait for the paladin rather than DM's desire, no different than any story with SA.
Oath of Devotion Tenet: Compassion - Aid others, protect the weak, and punish those who threaten them. Show mercy to your foes, but temper it with wisdom.
I'm sorry. Maybe I'm going blind...but I'm failing to see the caveat that says "Only applies if done unlawfully"
Heard this one before. DM was straight up looking for a "Gotcha" moment. And like 99% of those moments, it makes no sense what so ever.
Earlier editions of D&D had the Paladin alignment locked to Lawful Good.
I'm guessing the DM was "old school" in that he applied that rule to 5e because it was so much fun harassing paladin players with it in 3.5e.
@@Jermbot15 But that is not how Lawful Good has been defined. It has never been defined as blind obedience to the law of the land.
@@davidtherwhanger6795 Okay, immediate you're wrong. It was defined as blind obedience to the law of the land in this very story.
Now is it defined as blind obedience to the law of the land in the rules of D&D? No, of course not. But D&D still has Rule 0 which ultimately gives the DM the ability to interpret or change things as they see fit. So that's not a winning argument either.
Understand I'm not defending the DM. I think he intentionally abused the power given to him by the rules of D&D to harass and bully a player. But since I'm not defending the DM I feel it's useful to note you're making the same argument he did. You're both appealing to a personal interpretation of the rules as binding to other players. Your interpretation is better for me personally, but also completely meaningless at his table.
It is more productive, in this context, to argue that your interpretation is better, not that your interpretation is correct.
@@Jermbot15 Actually I am using the definitions supplied by D&D over multiple editions. Calling that MY interpretation of the rule and claiming it to be just as valid as this DM interpretation is invalid as I was using the core principle of the game available to all before game play started.
And if the DM does redefine core principles of the game that must be made aware to the Players before the game starts or before any penalties are applied. Other wise the core principles stand.
We love to see stories about people realizing they were a problem and then becoming better
The “Elves have no rights and so the 🍇 was legal” ruling implies that the will & desires of the Gods vary between municipalities and are dependent on the laws of mortals. Which makes no sense.
That DM just wanted to be an asshole/wanted to roleplay a 🍇 scene and was salty that his fun got ruined. Leaving that table was definitely the right move.
Behind the Scenes Story. I heard this one a little while back. And I still can not fathom why Strahd would want an heir. Or even need one for that matter. I swear some DM's are more into showcasing their fetish than actually thinking about what their villain would actually do. I could see Strahd trying to make everyone his minion. I could see Strahd trying to make everyone his puppets, to dance to what ever tune he wants, manipulating them left and right for his own amusement. I can not see Strahd trying to make what would become his own rival.
I'm pretty sure that the book states that he wants an heir because he thinks that would let him escape barovia, I personally don't think that it would but then again, I'm not Strahd
@@chrischris2640 It says he hopes to find some one worthy to rule in his stead as he thinks the dark powers that cursed him will accept such a person as his replacement. But he ultimately decides no one is worthy to replace him.
It also says he sometimes takes those that remind him of Tatyana and turns them into Vampire Spawn.
But none of that speaks of him doing the deed with any of them as that absolutely will not work with undead.
Also to be his equal, they would have to be able to rival his power. And therefore be a rival. Not a pawn.
I just gotta say, you have an impressive emotional maturity. The thing you said about being sympathetic to how you affect others even if you're going through something is something I don't hear often. It seems pretty common for people to justify any behavior just because of their own personal matters affecting them.
Some people *really* should not run Curse of Strahd! I feel like I was extremely lucky whenever I listen to these stories. My DM for that made clear that it was horror and there would be upsetting content, but still asked us if we had anything we specifically did not want to see. He also promised in session zero that whenever there's a particularly disturbing session, we would talk about it afterward, basically a mental health check-in for everybody, and that's how he ran it. He's a really great DM, and now he's running Descent into Avernus for our group.
I do wonder about the back story from the things barb said about OP.
I think it needs to be said that Paladins and other similar classes that have a *lawful* restriction should be beholden to the laws of their deity or patron before the law of the land, unless it's specified by a subclass or similar feature to be the law of the land, like an evil paladin who draws their power from Imperial might following the laws of the evil empire their order is an arm of.
It was also an oath of devotion, which has nothing to do with the laws of the land. I know because I was picking between devotion and crown oaths before. And with oath of the crown, it's only the laws of their own lands that count. At least, afaik.
My god that last dude is every female D&D player's worst nightmare. And the fact that the DM let it get that far is VERY concerning. Good on weeb guy for redeeming himself though. Oof that story definitely shivered my timbers.
There is no bad mood in the first story, only a bad DM.
And yes, the DM viscously, and I'm guessing, maliciously alter the sickened condition. Signed a 3.5 player.
So how long does the Sickened condition usually last?
@@jordanhunter3375 I'd have to check my books to know for sure, but too long in most cases.
I think there is some variability depending on the source too.
Intro: got the vibe dm was gonna pull a GOTCHA on the paladin either way. At least op decided to leave right away.
Incel vs. Simp: Big yikes. (Hears the rest of the story) EXTRA LARGE YIKES.
The CHOOSE TO BE BETTER story had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
"Unbelievable. Pulling that in this action economy" underrated comment
The first/intro story reminds me of a somewhat sketchy DM I had for some games back when I first started playing TTRPGs in the Navy: He would have not only punished Paladin for breaking the law for stopping the thug from what he was about to do, but he would have also punished the Paladin for not doing anything (he thought he was so clever by forcing "Catch 22 situations" like that on Lawful Good characters), and said DM is why, with one exception, I have only ever played Neutral Good characters in TTRPGs for the past 24 years.
Still, good on that person for just walking out on that shitty DM... There are a number of times I wish I would have done the same over the years.
The Stradt that never happened story: I suspect DM has a pregnancy fetish and was angry with OP for ruining things.
Last story: DM was an utter failure for letting that stuff happen.
I haven't played in years, but I've been enjoying the channel enormously. I'm from the original edition days - the softcover blue manual of the late 70's. (Yes, I lived through that first Satanic Panic. It was wild, kids.)There were no session zeroes, no boundary discussions, young women and girls played at their own risk in a lot of ways. Bad things can still happen, sure, but it's good to see what's considered normal and what's considered toxic these days.
First DM clearly had no grasp on the alignment system at all. Dude needs to reread the PHB and maybe put his glasses on this time.
(He's also just an overall POS for pretty much defending the SA of that elf. "Well, it's legal in this country, so you're wrong for stopping it.")
Oh no, he has a greenscreen now… Crispy is too dangerous!
He has control of the greenscreen and the skits.
He's too dangerous to be left alive!
Interesting how the 30-something obvious neckbeard nice guy™️ wasn’t the biggest creep in the room, while the dude who was actually the victim’s age was.
Welp, while Weeb was an issue at first he definitely learned and stepped back. And pretty sure Film Club Girl got herself, and to paraphrase the Drake ll of girl boss badass energy to have a hollowed out bible with a gun in it for home security.
"What's the crossover between D&D and PUAs?" My dude, it's huge. D&D is one of the main hobbies that produce that kind of loser.
White/Cis/Masc
15-25
Main hobby is mainstream but with a nerdy reputation or past
That is literally the top 3 risk factors.
Oh no, the Curse of Curse of Strahd has extended to include people who are merely planning on playing it! It’s reaching critical mass!
Intro Story: So if orcs are attacking the town, and are burning down houses, and the paladin kills them when they get to the ward where the elves live, does he lose his powers because he didn't stop them when they were burning down the human ward? What a weird world. Good on OP for leaving.
I'm guessing DM would say the orcs aren't people so killing them would be no worse than the NPC assaulting an elf. Still stupid and not worth playing with.
My comment seems to have vanished. I expect the DM could say elves and orcs fall under "no rights".
Second story, instead of telling OP he isn’t fit for the campaign, DM decided to play Mean Girls with OP with all this BS, going as far as planning to kill them off in the campaign.
Needless to say, OP dodged a fucking bullet on this one.
"[...]has been watching the wrong kind of dating coach on RUclips[...]" implies the existence of a right kind of dating coach on RUclips, which I somehow don't believe to exist so far.
I hope film club girl has a smiley day
Was that because her nickname as FCG also stands for Fresh Cut Grass? 👈😎👈
Love Crispy doing the video game “we are fighting now” back and forth bounce in the skit. ❤
"I said stay still!"
"THIS IS AS _STILL!_ AS I CAN _STAY!"_
Why in the hell is the DM in the last story still allowed to run games?
Stories like that last one are the reason women are choosing the -druid- bear.
Does that mean there's a femcel story making men do the same?
@@ArcCaravanyes of course there is this isn’t the GOTCHA you think it is.
@@ArcCaravanIt’s called “would you rather tell your feelings to a woman or a brick wall”
@@brendanheald9067there are better paths for catharsis than forcing random women to listen to your feelings, just saying.
@@sussusamogus4714 lol someone doesn’t get it. Men would rather talk to a brick wall cause women will use what men say against them. So I agree, there are much better ways to catharsis then women! I’m so glad we agree
Feels important to say that Murder House is just the normal start for Strahd. Idk why they called it a stress test. More of a meat grinder if anything.
I played a good paladin who was lawful in a dystopian evil setting. My description of his alignment was that he had a strict code, an unbending view of right and wrong that he held himself to. He rejected the laws of society and followed a higher law. But also, alignment is kinda stupid and meaningless and should really only be used as guidelines for the GM to control monsters or flavor gods on the fly.
Crispy calling the Film Club Girl FCG instantly made me think of Sam’s character in Critical Role Fresh Cut Grass because he’s also called FCG for short.
Two redemption arcs in one video! We love to see it.
the incel vs simp story just gave me the ick
I don't know if you ever plan on merch, but I would buy so many Crispy's Tavern shot glasses
Incel vs Simp.
Who won?
Who's next?
YOU DECIDE!
Winning at being the worst? Incel.
Ok this got me real good 😂
CoC Oneshot? As in *that* CoC? Fenexo CoC? Because that setting isn't just asking for trouble, it's on its hands and knees in gimp gear BEGGING for trouble.
I hate knowing exactly what you're talking about, i hate it i hate it ahhhhh
I hope someone knocks on your door when you're about to eat your cereals so they're all soggy when you return
0:48 If i was the player. this would’ve resulted in real world violence. At the very least, I would end up screaming and red-faced like a child throwing a tantrum.
What's funny is a world where lawful characters had to literally follow the LAW of the land, no matter what it was, or they lose their powers, would be pretty hilarious.
But yeah that's not in any way how a paladin works. Their lawful code is INTERNAL!
Just gotta ask: What is it with weird dms and pregnancy? I've been hearing more about pregnancy in r/rpghorrorstories than when I was first taught the birds and the bees!
Impreganation fantasies are a fairly common trope in hentai, so it wouldn't suprise me if some people got a kink out of that, unfortunately. Of course, there's no way of knowing if that DM specifically consumes that kind of content
I don't understand it either. And as for the frequency of it, I was in the Navy and have heard about more people impregnating others with these horror stories than I did in the Navy.
Probably just gets the attention of whatever OP submits the story more than other topics.
"Tonight's Episode: The DMs Barely Disguised Fetish"
@@Nyx685 They keep using that on this show.
Ngl, with that last story, even as a player I would immediately take that above table before that fight ended. Like, either take those clowns outside for a serious dressing down or get the other players to leave because that was not okay.
Guys who watch these Alpha male types need to ask the question? Does this guy actually have a girlfriend? Most of these types of men who are offering advice can’t hold down a real relationship which should be enough to tell you how much their advice is worth.
I have a phobia myself but I usually keep it more a veil than a line. This is because my phobia is around needles and other sharp objects under the skin. I have worked really hard on making it so this phobia doesn’t interfere with my regular day to day. I can still go get the shots I need in a timely manner, I can still do my work and training as a nursing assistant. I am a very stubborn person who doesn’t like being told no about such things (other peoples’s boundaries are not included in this stubbornness streak). So yeah, been working for many years on that. I have been very lucky that my DM’s (I play at multiple tables) and I have all been able to work out how to veil this phobia so I’m not feeling the effects of it during the game. Namely, vague descriptions is how. This was particularly important because I usually play an archer and I’ve even played a blood cleric before. I have no actual problem with gore or vivid descriptions that aren’t about sharp objects, but yeah, the small needle like things, can’t deal. Immediate hair raising up my arms and a chill down my spine and not in a fun way, the kind that comes just before you get the actual fight or flight.
Now, I actually like horror (the genre) though. I’m also pretty good at it. I don’t dm but I’ve helped various DM’s and my brother construct some short campaigns and oneshots for the horror genre. I make it clear that tension and staging is the true key to good horror. Lots of “made you look” type of things. I haven’t actually gotten to play in one of the horror ones I have helped write up but I’m always told by the dm and even some of the other players if I know them, that they loved it. I know a lot of that is putting it into the right hands of the right dm, but it feels nice that I’ve not had a bad review. Now, one very big thing I construct with this is also a list of things for the dm to ask of the players before they run the game. Namely, phobias, fears, and other triggers. And I help the dm construct a rough alternative method of incorporating something so they don’t lose the horror feel but still accommodate the player’s boundaries. I very much take pride in this part and it has helped each time. So yeah. As someone who loves constructing the horror stuff, I’m at least glad that the dm Keeper, learned their lesson and now does session zero. It’s the most important session you’ll ever have.
4:39 It may have been the Nauseated condition
Nauseated: Experiencing stomach distress. Nauseated creatures are unable to attack, cast spells, concentrate on spells, or do anything else requiring attention. The only action such a character can take is a single move action per turn.
That still doesn't explain why they can only move half speed.
Even with the Gaming Club Guy getting banned from the store, I don't think I'd feel comfortable going back to a table run by that DM. At best he's just a dumbass who values the game itself rather than the player's safety and will let other bad stuff happen at the table bc of that, at worst he actually doesn't think what Gaming Club Guy did was as bad as it was, in which case I'd rather not associate with DM at all.
What I never understand with some of these stories, certainly the last one. Is what are these DM's doing?! Or even thinking?! Just allowing this crap to happen!
Bad player and a shitty DM!
They probably think, "Guys, c'mon. Just let me play my game. It matters more to me than your stupid feelings." DMs aren't the only people at a table who can think that way.
@@ArcCaravan I mean like guys, Come on!
" this is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!"
In the last story, I seriously expected the older guy to be the worst of the two, that's how things usually turn out. On the other hand, it's very normal that teenage boys have trouble accepting that their privates aren't the centre of the universe as well as the primary object of desire for all females.
Generally incels tend to be worse with simps usually being annoying, accomplices, or also incels.
Story 1: I’d just ask “do you think slavery is lawful good then because it was within the law of the land?”
Huh. If weeb truly did change after being told off by the other player, fair play to them. Not everyone is able to actually change instead of doubling down on the problematic behaviour.
Honestly hope the dude continued to change for the better.
You know how bad the incel in the last story was when the weeb simp in the story, with more than 10 years on the others, isn't the main problem of the story.
Thank God she got a home security system after that, that scene should genuinely be treated as a personal rape threat. Which is some next level DnD horror.
17:11 every time my best friend comes over, he turns on your channel to play in the background. Please, save me... I don't know how much longer I can go on like this... 😅
Incel vs simp. THEIR BATTLE WILL BE.... LEGENDARY! 😂
I think it’s funny that you didn’t get the League of legends reference in the second story Ezreal is a league Character who’s an archeologist and a marksman
whenever you find a store offering an intro game for new players and the GM is poop, it speaks volumes about the management of the store. If the GM does not make the game fun and engaging for the new people it is not creating new customers for the store. The whole point of these events is to convert curious into customers. If the store manager does not step up and run a basic game and terminate the GM who is being rude then it shows he values, A his friend the GM more than money (not a bad thing) B the GM more than new customers - a bad thing for a store, C his friend more than the Game
That speaks so much about whether it want to go to that store again, clearly they are not someone who is truly about the game and wanting to introduce it to new people. They have seen the store as a way of converting a hobby into money, (a valid reason) but they have let the idea of them generating the money change their view of introducing new people to it.
Meaning bad as managing, bad in running a company, bad as customer facing. Basically a bad store. Yes the GM might be terrible but the Store manager is the one who allows them to do that.
Aaaw yeah, fresh Crispy
17:05 story 3: I do think the whole "bringing player fears into the game" could work if you change it to being the characters fears. possibly by having each one have a deep rooted phobia of something. then using that instead of the players deep rooted phobias.
at least the weeb stopped entirely
Crispy clone death count: 5
With story 3, I would have told the game shop owner how the DM also bent the rules to let the incel attack the girl character with no backup, and then let his character RAPE HER CHARACTER!!! NO ONE THAT ALLOWS THAT SHOULD BE DM!!! Ya know, assuming there weren't already a session 0 where everyone said they were ok with it. I know people can be bad with confrontation, but with that and the fact that he said he was "disappointed" in the guys for leaving the game leads me to believe that he actually blamed the girl for ruining the game instead of the incel and the "nice guy". If he were simply bad at confrontation, he wouldn't have been to quick to make it impossible for the other guys to wake up and wouldn't have pulled that BS about being "DiSaPpOiNtEd"! Overall a disgusting display of a lack of care for the girl player. I hope that at the very least, he apologized his BUTT OFF to the gamer girl, then did everything he could to make any future games with her amazingly fun!
Ezreal Jones.... Someone played League.
ONG, seemsw that some players take the DND like a full time job with some sort of commitment. When I heard about "no leniency for mental health issues, no pausing" I thought: WOW, will he be paying the psychological session afterwards for you? It is a game, it should be fun to play, otherwise why involve into something that does not bring any fun, relaxation or entertainment? Like isn't your full time job already stressful enough?
a lawful good character does not actually have to obey local laws, but rather preferres, a structured life to any other. often times, this meant that a set of codified laws need to be followed
and as a paladin the laws of your god supercedes all worldly law, if it werent so you would be f'ed as soo as you stepp into the hells coz evil is law there, blindly following the law is more the "lawful neutral" schtick
bad DM
Not even lawful neutral is obligated to follow sny society's rules since they can also prioritize a personal code or familial tradition.
@@ArcCaravan that is absolut true, they just have a propensity to follow law but they dont have to be lawful or neutral stupid, one dimensional characters...and the alignment system at large is flawed af, i only use it as a general rule of thumb than a defining metric
Hello. I enjoy your podcasts. Although I don't play TTRPGs, these stories were quite interesting to explore. And this reminded me of a horror story that I had during my Text RPGs, which was the only one in my 5 (or 7? With other words, I play since 13 y.o starting from 2011) years of roleplaying - to my fortune, but was the one that cooled down my interest entirely in collective RPGs - to my misfortune. When I heard more stories, I recalled this story and I cannot brush it off now, because the old feelings are again at my footstep. Not native English speaker, very sorry for the possible mistakes, inappropriate dramatism and length (for the last one I especially apologize).
I developed the text RPGs interest myself - no friend recommended to me this genre. When I entered the 1st year university I met a girl who become my friend for the next 3 years, and invited me to that "doomed" forum. It was a Harry Potter themed forum, that my friend registered, and then she recommended it to me, because she liked it: the plot, the rules, the players, the owner, and the "DM" to which I will refer further as the Moderator.
Here I need to digress and present my friend, or just Friend. She was a girl, with a very sweet personality, very kind, willing to help, fun get along with. She had this issue of getting attached to people who were kind to her and with whom she had great time. She was the person who would not expect people to be mean especially out of nowhere. And she liked roleplaying, adored HP, I would say she was the expert in the fandom. And - what is very important for her and is very appealing to me - are her posts, which were very aesthetically pleasant to read.
She presented me this forum, and her excitement about it transferred to me. However, we needed to get our characters approved by the Moderator before we start playing.
Now about the Moderator. The Friend started chatting with this guy about the character and the RPG topics, and with time she just got interested in him in general. I first never though of the Moderator as a problem person: he was strict, indeed, but as I thought, he was just very meticulous about the lore. I love HP, but I'm not a fan, and some lore particularities would slip my attention, so I was willing to trust him. Also I always had the idea of being respectful to other's interests no matter how less they meant to me, and I planned to be very careful so not to spoil the joy, and not to hurt the feelings of the HP fans who were plenty there. The Moderator disapproved my character first, gave me a list of recommendations, and our communication went further in social media because some info I didn't understand, and I really wanted to play the game. I was already active in the out-of-game themes, already had plans for my characters and some ideas whom to play with. With other words, I felt very hyped.
The Moderator was very willing to help, and soon my character passed the "face control", although I had to change the ides of her, but I still liked the direction. I was free to play, and I was happy, until my first post. Me and the Friend developed an interaction. We started with our posts, and the first my post was commented by the Moderator, as I have done sometghing allogical from the lore perspective. He told me that the "LeviOsa not LeviosA" spell does not make people levitate, although my Friend who was also very knowlegeable about the lore told that it was not a problem. However we trusted the Moderator, I apologized and changed the writing after I listened to his recommendations how we could make it "lore-friendly". Then the next post, and here we go again, I wrote something that seemed to him wrong, I again listened to his recommendations, and corrected my post. Shave me bald and call me an opposum if I remeber what that was about - the story happened in 2017, and my brain rejects my attempts to recall what had happened at the time. But at some point I didn't feel the gameplay funny anymore, and my motivation was dropped. But there was my Friend that always raised my interest with her roleplaying stories with her character, the plot, with her communication with the Moderator. Her energy helped me to overcome my procrastination, and advance our character's stories.
She invited few more friends from our previous FRPG experience, and then she crated few more characters so she could get along with everyone. Creating few more characters was not forbidden by the rules - if you can play with them and not disupt the dynamic of the gameplay then it was fine. The Friend was able to manipulate them all and timely respond with a quality post - she was more productive than me with my only character. However the owner and the Moderator in particular felt uncomfortable with her creating more charaters and asked her to not do this anymore. She could have played with the already created characters but no more new.
(This will be a very long story, I am very sorry. Will continue in the first comment )
The Friend understood everything, acknowledged, and stick to her already created characters. And it was not a problem if not my tongue. Once in the out-of-game themes on that forum we and other players discussed my Friend's character in a satirical manner - nothing offensive, it was a playful interaction that my Friend liked as well. The Moderator was chatting with us as well. I joked something like: "be cautious otherwise she'll bring in a new character", meaning that she's really dedicated to the game. The moderator replied with as I thought with a comment and a laughing smile (!!!!): "Oh realy, she will?".
We skipped the topic and continued the discussion, then I closed the PC and went to do my stuff. In 10 or so minutes my Friend called me and said very stressed and very disappointed: "Why did I tell the Moderator that she is going to create a new character?".
She was nearly crying, saying that the Moderator scolded her very rudely because she's going to create a new character, which she never intended. But I never said that. It was a joke. I told her, invited her to see the conversation, showed her the screens of the chat - I was joking, nothing more, no other intentions. Also I didn't remeber her talking about a new character that she planned to bring, and in the end - she was forbidden from doing so, why she'd break the rules of a game she was so invested in?
She told me that: "Sometimes you need to think before talk".
And I broke. I had very mixed feelings, and as a very emotive person I felt myh feelings with my skin: I was feeling guilty and miserable because I caused my friend to suffer, and from other side very anger because - WTF was this? WTF wrong I did? I joked like other people, nothing offensive or suspicious, and even if so - instead of addressing me directly "Why did I said so?", or request my clarifications, the Moderator acted like nothing happened, went directly to the Friend, and - without a single question, confirmation or like anything, started scolding her and threatening her. He already was an inportant person for her at this moment, she talked about him a lot, she was more than kind to him, very friendly, very open, she asked me even to make together a video postcard for him for his birthday - and in the end this is happening, WTF!. She's not even the one who should had faced the consequences - it was me who said bulls"t and no the other way around!
And me - I was already done with Moderator's constant complaints with my roleplay, but now I cannot even joke in the out-of-game themes? Am I a part of FBI or a whatever RPG forum? I just started feeling very uncomfortable with my limit of agency, and my motivation who already was hanging off the cliff like a mucus on the ogre's nose - now it crippled. I was not willing to stay there anymore. I have shared my desire too leave in the respective theme that was designed for leave-topics and break requests, I was very vague around my reason, so not to instigate any further conflict, and signed out with the intention to never come back.
But the story didn't stop here. Everyone on the forum got informed immediately about my leave, since all the newcomers would register to that particular theme, so they all got the notification about my message. The Moderator contacted me immediately, asking why I decided to leave. I gave some ok explanations, politely said that posting in the game took me more real time than I intended, and that was the graduation year (if I'm not mistaken), so no time to play. He seemed to be ok with my words, wished me good luck, encouraged me to write if I want to stay in contact (no way I would have been willing)... and jumped into the private dicussion with the Friend scolding her again for "making me leave the forum".
Of course I got to know about it, she called me again, crying and asking me to return, because Moderator was very mad at her, and she didn't know what to do. He gaslighted her with some random bullsh"" about how manic and manipulative she is (like what?), and that she's at fault here. I felt so sorry for her, but I said that I will not. I don't know how I formulated the answer, but I was so pissed off Moderator's behaviour that at the time I could be only more than expressive. And what was more crazy - she still cared about him after everything he told her! I tried to explain her that this guy is crazy - he behaves like a creep, he's aggressive, he's venting his anger on her for absolutely NO reason! And again, instead of asking me directly, he goes to her - and I was never the kind of person who would hide such a thing. If I am asked to give a feedback, I would be frank, if I say something I face the consequences willingly. I was never too shy to stand up for myself and never had the behaviour of a person who would need help. Like - why?
Then the Owner of the forum contacted her, seemingly not aware of the situation but willing to understand what was going on under his feet (knew only the Moderator's part of the story). As the Friend told me afterwards that he scolded her too. Then he came to me, and asked me directly what happened FINALLY! So I told him everything: how I inappropriatedly joked, how Moderator behaved, my feelings, the guilt , the anger, my frustration about how he treats the Friend, and how powerless I feel in this situation, because although I am the cause, yet the Friend is the target of a bullying out of nowhere - and it was indeed a bullying. And the game meant for her so much that she was hurt - very much hurt, and she continued being attacked by people she cared without a possibility to fight back. She was just not that person. And she asked me particualrily not to go into a fight with the Moderator, what I didn't intend regardless, because I already understood that it would makie the cr{{ much worse - this guy just didn't listen and deducted whatever he pleased. The Owner listened to me, apologized and we never talked again. Not sure if any of them apologized to the Friend ever.
And although this situation ended here for me, but it didn't end for her. She stayed at that forum - she still had the friends that she invited. She tried to start over the friendly interation with the Moderator, and I am not sure if they did (either she never mentioned or I forgot). However he never stopped nitpicking her in the game. He would create disadvantages to her character, laughing at him, creating almost-death conditions for him (she played a male character). I was sure he intentionally targeted her, and she... well, she was in denial. She kept telling me about the in game encounters with the Moderator, her feelings about that, and I felt guilty. I don't know if she forgave me, this topic slipped us somehow. It was too unpleasant and particularily disgusting to recall the events, and I don't remenber if I properly apologized to her besides my "I'm sorry girl, but he's a piece of (paste here your text)". This guy at that time was 27 and he was a school teacher. We and Friend were 21 or 20 yo.
Thank you for your attention (and I address it to everyone who laid their eyes on this wattery piece of text). I appreciate that you made it until the end.
The first DM I ever had was a stickler for rules, even when he interpreted them wrong
He was also overtly sexual, session 0 he had us split into girl group and guy group, ran separate sessions
The guys had a normal start, us girls encountered a giant.... naked. He went into detail about how his D was hard from just waking up and went into detail about how it waved around and stuff. We ended up just chasing the giant away
Later in a different game most of our team got captured and we had to make new characters, I asked what was gunna happen to the old ones, I was expecting a jail break session or smth along those lines
But no. He informed me that my blue tiefling girl was now a sxx slave and that she was a "rich lords favorite because she had wings" and the other characters were all assumed dead except the cat girl, she was also a slave
There was a lot of little things that kept happening that made a few of us uncomfortable but we put up with it because it was our first time around and didn't know any other DMs
He even ERPd one session instead of fading to black despite everyone else trying to stop him (except the one person who was oddly into all of this shit and fueled it more)
Allow me to play Devil's advocate for the first DM's concept...
The idea of an area essentially flipping the alignment system on its head and making certain characters lose their powers is an interesting concept.
This could lead to very interesting role-playing. For example...
1. The paladin swears to stick my their morals despite the awful circumstances.
2. The paladin is able to trick an evil god into letting them borrow some power so that they can fight back evil whilst trying to remain morally righteous.
3. The paladin damns themselves and harnesses the powers of a dark god to bring vengeance and death upon evil.
This in no way is an attempt to excuse what the DM was trying to do. I just thought the idea was kinda cool.
YOOO CRISPY GOT GREENSCREEN
True facts I think when I do DM my first campaign, part of the player consent form will be the understanding that The DM Will Not Allow Players To Commit Intimiate Assault On Other Players Or NPCs. I Do Not Consent To Participating In That Kind Of Content, And It Is Not Welcome At My Table.
Figure putting it right up front makes enforcement easier.
The one thing that always gets me is your pronounciation of some words, like "hweird" instead of "weird" xd
Great stories though, or, well, I guess, not great stories?
Props to weeb guy in the last story though, to a degree. Yeah, he was weird and creepy, but once told off, he owned it and behaved properly. Probably does have to do with his age though, no matter how weird you are, you still have some maturity at that age. Though sad it had to come to that in the first place, but you gotta see the good in the bad at least somewhere I guess.
Regarding the paladin alignment story from the beginning. Having the DM ruling alignment that way takes away so much of the fun of the game.
At least in 5E, alignment is mostly there to enhance role play. It doesn't really have much effect on game mechanics.
That being said, here are my thoughts on alignment.
Good vs Evil. How much is the character focused on the needs of others vs themselves. Extreme Good would take care of random others even if it means harm to themselves. Extreme Evil only cares about themselves. They may help other, but only when they also benefit.
Lawful vs Chaotic isn't following one specific country's laws. Does the character have a set of moral laws? Do they treat others the same regardless of situation.
Extreme lawful follows the book to the letter. Ot doesn't matter if they made up the rules or if someone else did. They will follow those rules with no wiggle room.
Extreme chaotic evaluates each situation individually. What they do one day may be complete opposite the next day. There are a lot of factors and no one really knows why.
Earlier in the year, I thought through the US political candidates and tried to determine their alignment.
Full disclosure: I am rather liberal.
Mike Pence, I believe, is Lawful Neutral to Lawful Good. He has a clear set of rules that he will follow not matter what. I personally don't like his decisions, but he follows these laws because he wants to do the most good for others.
Donald Trump on the other hand is Chaotic Evil. His laws change on the day and situation. And his focus is on himself and he can get, or what is happening to him.
“Mr. Age Gap.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Said the Not-So-Nice Guy
I was referring to GCG in the story, btw, just to clarify
The Intro Story would only work if there is a Oath of Law and Order Paladin and/or God of Laws that governs over all Laws in the Mortal World and is obsessively about Laws and punish Lawbreakers that includes his Paladins.
Story 2: if the other organizer came up to me and tried to make excuses for that DM I'd let him know, that the DM is a jerk, your just a big of a jerk for trying to apologize for him, and until he gets rid of DM any event he runs is gonna flop
Today was the day of shitty DMs. Sweet jeebus, they all were terrible.
Incel dnd stories are always my favorites.
A horror story is kind of developing in the Strahd game I'm in. We were supposed to be 5 players, with a group of Dragonborn Fighter, Elf Oathbreaker Paladin, Human Necromancer, Human Warlock and & Cleric (Exorcist). But that player had to drop out due to scheduling. And now I. The Oathbreaker, who I built to be damaged focused, have to ache and groan every session as the ONLY. SOURCE. OF. HEALING! With the fighter having been a DICK ABOUT IT at least once. I don't wanna be the primary healer of the party, but we really do need a healer and I think I need to talk with the DM of a way to make things easier for me on the battlefield, so I can focus on what I made my character to be fun at doing, rather than hemm and haw at every fight, be it started by the enemy or the boistrous fighter (which almost happened last session)
I would have been fine with the first DM if he had simply told the player beforehand about how the oath works and said “I want to make a complex morality system where you have to decide what’s the best course of action and accept the consequences.” This would be an interesting campaign if the DM was intentional and transparent and not just misinterpreting the rules and then being an ass about it.
"INCEL vs. SIMP."
Godzilla vs. Kong?
Nah, I was rooting for both Godzilla AND Kong, in that story 😆
Once a dm i had dissolved our game because he wanted to run it for my ex girlfriend, whom he'd started dating after her falling out with rest of the friend group lol. It caused sort of chain reaction that saw a bunch of people getting cut off- the ones who sided with him left and the ones with me stayed. Funnily enough he was also my ex at one point lol
It’s not a sin to not use safety tools. They are pretty lame too. How about if you play with strangers, restrain yourself from using your really weird fetishes in the game?
Probably best not to force weird fetish stuff on friends either.
Incel vs SIMP
Girl in the last one should have reported him to the school and cops if they had to up home security that means there was a probability if threats take screen shots and wellnmaybe help fix that guys life cause if he keeps that up all he is going to do is hurt people
You can be a killer and be lawful remember up until like the 1800's it was legal to avenge your family members who were killed by bandits
Also your d&d character isn't lawful if you don't pay taxes to the state lord
At some point in the 1900 if a star of David wasn't worn you could be shot on site
RUclips won't let me write how in the 1900's in Germany it was legal to kill "someone"
Imagine sorry man you lost all your paladin abilities because you forgot to pay your taxes
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