Have I forgotten HOW TO FLARE? | Duxford to Enstone in a PA28 Archer | Luton Radar ATC | Flight VLOG
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- After a great afternoon at Duxford it's time to head home to Enstone.
A fairly quick flight, with busy Luton Radar ATC. There was a problem with our coms with readability 3. A better approach at Enstone, but it seems like I have forgotten how to flare! What do you think?
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Take off from Duxford Airfield (02:52)
Luton Radar FOR BASIC SERVICE (O5:25)
TURNING FINAL and landing at Enstone runway 08 (12:47)
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What a lovely flight! Have to get to Duxford at some point. Will hopefully be visiting Enstone soon too, it looks lovely.
Thank you! Hope to see you soon!
Always enjoy your videos Adam! I only have 500hrs on the PA28 so I’m no expert, but I think you’ll find that your landings will improve if you’re a little more disciplined with your speed on approach. You really need to nail that 65kts on short final in this aircraft, otherwise you’ll end up putting it down flat and early. At flare height, gently close the throttle and squeeze back the yoke so that she lands in a nose up attitude with the stall-warner sounding. You touched down here at 70kts which is a bit fast and it could cause the aircraft to wheelbarrow on the nose-wheel. Hope this helps!! 👍🏻
That’s a great and detailed explanation. Yes I was a little fast coming in here. Thank you for taking time to write that, really appreciate it.
That's really interesting to read, IIRC in a Cessna 150/152, 65kts is 'staying alive' also. So flaring out onto the mains, with just a trickle of power on, as the speed has already been set on base to finals/finals? Is the stall warning coming on then just an occasional consequence of the flare, rather than confirmation of the flare? Tbf the landing looked a little flat, but not as if it would wheelbarrow, but on some grass strips/farm strips, keeping the nose wheel off and protecting the oleo is also key to a good landing, I think that landing could have been problematic in that scenario. I'm not an expert though nor an instructor, just time spent with and watching/listening to others.
Muso Seven The C152 feels very different in the flare. It’s huge fowler-flaps produce much more drag and the high wing interacts less with ground effect.
Great video!🙌🏻
Thank you
Thanks Adam for the video. Actually it's very helpfull for a poor french pilot trying to improvre his aeronautical english.
Hope we can come in UK soon and land as well.
Merci beaucoup Adam
Merci d'avoir regardé! Veuillez me faire savoir si vous voyagez au Royaume-Uni.
(I hope that makes sense!)
Hi Adam, great video. The gear cam as you touch down is revealing. Here's a little trick from my flight instructing bag of tricks that you might want to try. Short, or non existent, holdoffs are often an indicator that there's a little sub-conscious voice in the pilot's head that is eagerly telling the pilot to get the plane on the ground ASAP. To overcome this it may be useful to practice landing without aiming to land. I don't know how long your local runway is, but find a nice long runway for your aeroplane, for 4 seat lighties >1000m would be good. Now fly some circuits, but you are going to do go-arounds, not landings. Fly a normal circuit pattern but at around flare height set around 2100rpm (slow cruise speed power) and fly parallel to the runway--just like when you did with precautionary landings in your pilot training to enable you to inspect a field (but you won't be inspecting the field this time), Perform a go around well before the end of the runway, maybe around 1/2 way down the runway. Repeat the circuits until you are comfortable with this procedure. Once you are comfortable, then repeat but this time fly down to around 1/2 your flare height, same procedure, fly parallel to the ground at your slow cruise speed. Repeat this procedure going lower on each pass until you are overflying the runway and going around from hold off height. When you are happy with your go-arounds from holdoff height, change the procedure slightly and slowly take a little power off (maybe set around 1800-2000RPM) and set yourself the aim of flying as close to the ground as possible without actually touching the ground. I have seen pilots with problems in landings do the smoothest landings they ever did at the end of this process. Hopefully that will train your mind to be less concerned with getting the plane on the ground and rather keep flying it until it's ready to settle onto the ground. If you haven't done precautionary searches or go-arounds for a while, maybe it might be a good idea to go back and do some of those dual first.
Hey George thank you so much for your comment. Sounds like a fantastic idea. I’ll defiantly give that a go. I’ve never practiced low inspection go arounds before, so I can see what you mean, and understand what you mean about the subconscious voice!
@@PrivatePilotFlightVlogs Did you not do precautionary searches as part of you private pilot license?
I can’t recall doing them...that was 10 years ago
@@PrivatePilotFlightVlogs Since you can't recall having done precautionary searches in your training, I would suggest going back and doing it dual. It was mandated in Australia when I was teaching. There's a good writeup here: www.studyflight.com/precautionary-landing (there's lots of other sites as well) The main concern I have if you haven't done this before is speed control when you are near the ground. I used to use the low pass technique for teaching landings with students, but I would control the power while the trainee focused on controlling height. I wouldn't want to see a video where you try this for the first time and it goes wrong. If you are current with precautionary searches then you should be able to do it on your own, otherwise I suggest you get some dual practice first.
I’ve got some time with my CFI next week so will bring it up with her and rest it out. Thank you for suggesting, much appreciated.
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You get all the good weather!! ☀️😭
True...but the worst landings...which would you have? 🤪
Lovely video - very jealous of your perfect flying weather!
Well it was good luck I guess! Tables have turned now 😢
Another good one Adam. As I said in the comment on the last one, I am sorry my plans had to change and I was not able to meet you there. Great place to visit and a great day to fly on. Well done and thanks for posting. 😎👍
Thanks Tim! We just need another good day! Keep in touch! Thank you for commenting. 👍👍😎
THANK YOU so much for watching. Please leave me a comment and hit the thumbs up button if you like. Adam :)
Nice one Adam! Some more happy passengers, safely back home after a great day out! 😀✈️
Thank you buddy appreciate that 👍
Nice.....need to get that radio sorted.......
💯 - awful isn’t it.
Looks like a lovely day out and Duxford is such a great place to visit. Landing's definitely getting better and I look forward to my next trip with you.
Thanks Bob, getting there!👍👍
Second half of a great day. Thanks again Martin and Di
Thank you both - let’s go again soon! 👍👍
Brilliant video! Looked a perfect day for flying and enjoying those views
Thank you Sophie 🙏👍
Another great video Adam. Really enjoyed this one. Did you find out if the radio interference was a problem with the radio unit or was it something else. I’ve heard a number of people mention that when trying to transmit, some microphones on certain headsets don’t play ball with face masks. Did you try the P2 mic too, I once had what I thought was a radio failure which turned out to be an issue with the P1 transmit button.
With the flare, my instructor back at Biggin Hill always told me “forget about the flare, that’s for airliners .. if you keep your eyes on the end of the runway and your speed is correct you will flare naturally”.
Thanks Joe 👍👍 I didn’t find out to be honest, just logged it. I should have tried com2, which someone has pointed out. I don’t think the face mask was the issue as it’s been fine in other aircraft.
Yes you are probably right about the flare, I need to nail the speeds too. Catch you soon.
Nice fly along, Adam! 👍🏻 Did you figure out the problem with COMS?
Thanks Jolmner! No I logged it but didn’t hear after that.
@@PrivatePilotFlightVlogs Ah ok. Hopefully it's fixed next time 😉
Love listening to Luton Radar.. great video.. and... a good landing buddy. Nicely done Adam.. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you, not quite like Heathrow but interesting with a mix of commercial and private! We shd make a video soon!
@@PrivatePilotFlightVlogs absolutely.. what a great idea.
Another great video, keep them coming Adam! 😁
Thanks Pilot Dan appreciate that
Great video as always Adam!
Thank you 👍
adam, sometimes we can "over think" things, just relax and it will come as second nature....as a "non pilot" it all looked fine to me...
Appreciate the comment Pete 👍
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Cheers dude!
Love it!✈️
Thank you!
I don't know if you have a COM2 radio in that plane, but it's always worth giving it a try if you do. The aerial for the Arrow I fly is on the top for COM1 and bottom for COM2 - can make all the difference sometimes.
Yes we do, I didn’t think to try it to be honest. Good idea for next time.
Another great vid 💙🛩💙
Thank you much appreciated!
@@PrivatePilotFlightVlogs nb atol man your a really really sound guy answering all my questions with amazing detail 💙🛩
Another excellent video 👍
Thank you that’s very kind
It sounded like you have a problem with your PTT switch or wiring as it was poor audio on the side tone, so not a TX or RX problem.
As for your landings, don't think of it as a flare but as a hold off (you appear to be flying into the ground with too much vertical speed), if you find you are floating a long way down the runway then that would indicate you have too much speed at the numbers. I am not an instructor but a instructor pointed that out as a comon error for trike UC pilots, that us Tail Draggers can not do and not bounce (his reason for thinking TD pilots take off and land better). He may have a point as I have made a few rubbish landings in a tri-gear and got away with it!
Thank you, I didn’t find out what happened but you may be right. A few people have suggested I fly some TDs to understand the landing process better.
Don't think of it as a flare...just think of it as leveling off with no power. The flare will happen automatically.
Nice - thank you
Nice ,have you been flying lately since restrictions have been lifted anyway I wish you well.
No I need a mee medical as I had eye surgery on both eyes. Just need to book it it though.
@@PrivatePilotFlightVlogs oh dear.Good luck ,hope you can fly soon and hope the eyes feel better!!
Are all the center stripes / runways offset to the right, as in your landing?
Hey no not normally in my experience. I’m not entirely sure why it is like that. I will try and find out.
Hello Adam .
I am back here again. How are you doing ? I remember you saying you had some struggles if i remember correctly, i hope that they are resolved now. Its a tricky time now it really is. You know more than me probably.
Have you been flying lately?
In case you forgot, I fly a c152 from enstone flying club.
I remember you saying that you needed a medical done as you had an operation. But that was AGES ago.
Regards,
Simon
That was a beautiful day for flying. Shame I didn’t run into you at DX! 😊
It was amazing...your arrival was slightly more impressive in a Spitfire. My departure was better than yours though!! 😜
Private Pilot Vlogs better than being driven to the station by Charlie Brown in his battered Renault Clio? 🤔😆
Absolutely! 🤪
Probably a weird question but do your ears pop on them aircraft or that height or is it only commercial jets thanks
Good question...generally mine don’t pop, but if we descend super quick they can sometimes do that.
@@PrivatePilotFlightVlogs ohhh actually never thought of that lol thanks a million man 💙🛩
A lovely trip there and back - surprisingly quick too.
Can I ask, when calling up Enstone Traffic? Should calls start with 'Enstone Traffic' and end with 'Enstone Traffic', is the American protocol adopted in the UK now? I was trying to hear where the other 1-2 aircraft joining Enstone were. Or is it the way that the film is edited that left out the 'Enstone Traffic' part?
Hey Muso
Super quick, in real time it was 35 mins.
I believe it’s an US protocol to say “Enstone Traffic” at the end of a radio call, we do not adopt that in the UK. I did cut the video quite a lot as I approached the circuit so apologies if it didn’t make sense.
Appreciate your comment 👍
Hi Adam, thanks, no worries, I was trying to fathom what the correct procedure was :-) :-)
Hey I fly from EGTN ,its a great little airport.Tell me if you know G BODO the c152.
Yes it’s great! I don’t know it I’m afraid.
@@PrivatePilotFlightVlogs well great video anyway,such a shame we cannot go up at this given time....
Thank you ☺️ I know. My medical has lapsed so I won’t be back till Easter now. I’ve not flown in a 152 so let me know if you want to take me up for a circuit!
@@PrivatePilotFlightVlogs Oh I am sadly still in training but hopefully one day ,itd be my pleasure...
Good luck 👍👍
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Thank you!