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Mando fans hoping for Thrawn are just as hilarious as Bad Batch fans hoping for Delta Squad to become the new villains. You guys are so desperate for cameos to somehow improve these mediocre stories.
I think that she may start to feel as though she's part of a family again, which is what's been teased for her this season. Hard to tell what she'll do regarding the Mythosaur but its possible that she may develop as a character and have a sort of change of heart
@@michaelputman6368 ever since I saw that ship design for the first time I’ve wondered if that technique could be down, and I about came in my pants watching it
Polite correction - Bo did not leave Death Watch because of Pre Vizsla's extremism. She left after Maul killed him and took his place as leader, because she was opposed to an outsider ruling Mandalore.
I don't think Bo is faking it. I think seeing the Mythosaur was a spiritual moment for her. She has commented multiple times about how the thing that bothers her the most is the fracturing of her people. The only way to bring them all together is to take the viewpoint of the most extreme faction and work toward middle ground. This is just the beginning of Bo's redemption arc.
Right I hope she rules, din isn't cut out for it, doubt he even considered it despite weilding the darksaber. Although I could see him riding the mythosuar. Hoping ppl are wrong and she doesn't challange din
@@agentnukaz1715 I don’t think she will, I think she’s still processing the info with the mythosaur, and if she wanted the darksaber she would’ve challenged for it already, but I think she has accepted her time has passed, and now she sees hope in Din. She went to rescue him without even thinking about it, she cares far more about the Mandalorian people being reunited than selfishly ruling them herself. On the contrary, Vizla has spite for her & her clan, sees her as an ages-old clan rival, and he’s envious of Din. He’s going to do something rash because he believes it’s his birthright. At some point Bo will tell Din about the mythosaur & she’ll tell him that he’s the one who needs to do it. Somebody to rule Mandalore with a clean slate, who believes in the way, and has no thirst for power. Din is the perfect pick. He’s a good man, who doesn’t seek fame/fortune/power, and he cares about his people. The darksaber came to him for a reason, and now the mythosaur has revealed itself in his presence. 100% Bo’s redemption arc
@@Midascrown5 I think she might be in shock, like all of the things that she thought were myths are unveiling in front of her eyes, she may even have some hesitation in believing what she saw herself- I think the hesitation of telling anyone primarily comes from her not knowing what to make of it yet. Like her confession will have her saying “I’m not sure but I think” or “I wasn’t sure but I am now”, as in she needed time to process
I prefer the slow pacing to the dog fights in space.. tbh I just enjoy the unknown, new characters more cos I know there isn’t a mountain of lore behind them.
Haha yup, the acting often felt stiff, and the dialog seemed corny, but I get what you mean about it feeling like something from _Andor._ Man, what a surprise that series was for me. I'm spoiled by its first season for more mature, better writing in _Star Wars._
The Jedi Temple isn't in ruins like in the EU. It was turned into the Imperial Palace where Palpatine resided. It could be now since the Empire was forced off Coruscant it's been abandoned, or turned into the location of the New Republic military operations.
@@coruscant100Which is pretty sad because that temple is a historical monument. Do they not give Luke, one of the very last Jedi around, a say on how the temple should be used?
@@FreezeFun perhaps he did get a say, and decided not to reopen the Jedi Temple...yet. He probably wants to gain more students and masters before moving into the Temple itself.
I definitely agree! Every time I see coruscant i always think about the Jedi temple. What’s it looks like, the condition of the temple. We never really got to see it when palpatine was living there but it would be nice to see more clips of the Jedi temple.
Did you notice when Bo and Din both said "This is the Way" Grogu babbled something that was in a roughly sentance-like cadence? He was likely either babbling back "This is the Way," embracing his Mandalorian side--or he was trying to warn them about the incoming attack (which happens seconds afterward), possibly because he saw it in a vision or just got a six sense about it, embracing his Jedi side.
The biscuits was the give away. How could she have gotten them without Imperial assistance, let alone still have them packaged with the Imperial logo on them. Pretty sure if you're going the distance of using mind flayers on former Imperials, you wouldn't let them see sticker icons of their old bosses.
I think Bo’s faith in the creed has been restored by the time she spends with din. Witnessed him recite the words her father and the culture taught her, seeing the mythosaur. Being embraced by fellow mandos. Idk that feeling of belonging is very powerful specially if you are feeling lost and abandoned by your kind
This episode itself felt like a Star Wars movie in general, I was GLUED to the screen. I loved how they were all accepting Bo near the end, it was beautiful
Dr. Pershing's story was so sad. He wanted to do good and got used. Then he got his memory wiped. All that medical training, wiped. Even Bix remembered the funeral song in Andor.
The doctor Pershing part gave a vibe of 1984 and how the new republic and the empire are not that different in some ways. Also, I think that Bo Katan, who was alone in an empty palace, felt a little empathy being received by the Mandalorian order. Also, I think the armorer can be the 3rd sister of Bo and Satine that gets mentioned but never shown in the Clone Wars.
Why are we assuming Bo hasn’t learned her lesson yet? After all she’s been through you’d think she’d understand she cannot do this alone. We are seeing a different side of Bo, it seems like she cares for Din, albeit in her own way.
I know Bo likely has her own agenda but I wonder if she had a sort of awakening religiously. She mocked the idea of the mines being a Mythosaur layer then saw one face to face. She is the “The Convert” here. I wonder if embracing “the way” has more to just ruling Mandalore, even though that seems like the obvious event this is leading to.
I think what could happen is, because we saw Bo handle the dark saber masterfully, she gets it from Din as he doesn't appear to be worth. But he finds out about the Mythosaur and either him or Grogu end up riding it, making it the only way for Mandalore to be together to have both ideologies joint in order to rule it in a way everyone respects it
I wouldn’t call Bo-Katan an “antagonist” but I could definitely see her using Din and the others to help herself gain support when she tries to rule Mandalore again
You are confusing antagonist with villain it seems. She is definitely in antagonist territory simply because she does stand in opposition to our protagonist Mando. Her intentions are definitely against his but I don't think they are evil by any stretch so, therefore yes an antagonist, no not a villain.
@@zakkmylde1712 That would be true if Mando actually wanted to rule. As of Book of Boba Fett he doesn't, so unless that sentiment changes we cant say she will be an antagonist. Also what if they hook up, they certainly have that chemistry
@@DeepMukherjee she's in fundamental opposition no matter what because of her feelings of the children of the watch, not because she wants to rule. There is also the fact that despite the fact that he doesn't want to rule he also holds the dark saber and that in and of itself puts her in an antagonistic position regardless of her feelings about the children.
I think the interceptors were absolutely thrawn especially after the “that’s a lot of interceptors for an imperial warlord” line (only a grand admiral could have that many)
No, this was probably the majority of the launch bays of an Imperial class Star Destroyer, or a lesser portion from a bigger ship. It was more than a light cruiser could carry. It's not neccesarily an Admiral, because the rank of the CO cannot be worked out from what was shown. It does show that whoever did this strike has at least one full sized capital ship from a major fleet as it has interceptors.
Nah it's probably Moff Gideon. Who else would go there and intentionally bomb Bo's castle? That seems awfully personal. Thrawn doesn't have bad blood with Bo or the Mandalorians. Also he's probably in the unknown regions still.
Din and Bo working together in the dogfight was bad ass. I didn’t mind the Dr. storyline but I love the Mandalorian storyline we got going on right now. Bo not telling Din about the Mythosaur wasn’t surprising. Loved the scene when Din and Bo were accepted back into the Creed. The Mandalorians are caring when following the way and glad to see the different armor colors and other Mandalorians starting to come more together! Can’t wait for rise of Mandalore.
I personally saw Bo's time with the Children of the Watch as her feeling like she has a people again since she was alone for so long and i guess felt abandoned. Now she has people who welcome her with no questions or strings attached and she's going through it
That was my read too. It really could go either way though. Honestly love how you can't see their faces so you have to speculate on their emotions from body movements alone
I love the way the title plays with both Bo Katan converting to the creed as well as Dr. Pershing converting to the New Republic. I'm also loving the dual perspective of the Republic vs. the Empire being masterfully shown, once again. I'm so glad they're exploring the gray area of that morality.
What I think they are doing is using S3 to experiment combining the more conventional Star Wars stuff with more Andor like stuff and Andor was an experiment to test that new concept in itself
At 15:26 you say that she left Pre Vizsla because she thought he was too crazy, when in reality Pre was killed by Maul and she was still loyal to his vision, not joining the new rightful leader of Mandalore: Maul. She was basically with Vizsla until his death.
Thank you in saying this because your correct 💯 yes she didn't leave just to leave or because she no longer believed in his way like you said and how it was shown visla died she didn't agree with MAUL'S ideology
Yeaa exactly like hearing that got me tight. Bo Katan never left Pre Vizsla or left deathwatch because he “was too crazy”. She was literally by his side & followed his ways & fought side by side. Maul challenged & defeated Pre Vizsla, pre Vizsla and most of his squad allowed maul to kill him because of his honor & code. Bo Katan wasn’t accepting of that (Letting an outsider rule mandalore) so she called everybody else traitors but unfortunately history did not see it that way lol & thus creating a real civil war within the mandalorians. Maul brainwashed mandalorians into thinking she was the real traitor. It deadass surprises me how maul doesn’t seem to be an important part in mandalore history knowing he was the reason why mandalorians split up & had to create different clans. Idk why he’s never mentioned nor why Paz vizsla never said anything, especially knowing that last name’s history with Bo & maul. Idk why he missed that information out because it’s literally the reason why there’re in the state that there’re in.. 🤦🏽♂️ & 3, Bo literally only joined satine & her people because she had no other choice & hated maul.
Regarding the take on Bo Katan at the end: I think she very obviously has designs to play whatever cards she can to become leader again, but I also believe the true reverence to the old ways actually charms her, as we see when Din first enters the waters. She has the same kind of stunned reaction when she’s welcomed to the Children of the Watch, even if it’s temporary.
@@Tmtrnr22 it’s a tiny detail but her helmet is unique that it has those little horns, which was a common detail amongst Mandos who were under Maul for the brief time he ruled. You did watch the video right? 😂 it’s SWT’s theory and he explains it in the video
@@Tmtrnr22 But the helmet detail, her very adamant commitment to “The Way” and the fact that she’s in some way a leader in their sect all pair really well with the idea that she was under Maul at one point. Really, we know nothing about her as an individual outside of what we’ve seen her do in the show. I’m not even sure if “The Armorer” is a name that gets used at any point in the show, seems to just be what the fans called her. Just like Baby Yoda was never a name in canon, just a name to the fans.
it’s really well done how Bo Katan seems to be detached from her ancestry and even the castle doesn’t mean much to her until after the Mythosaur is seen. It like reconnects her to the reality of her peoples deep history. And then being converted at the end was a cherry on top.
Yeaa exactly like hearing that got me tight. Bo Katan never left Pre Vizsla or left deathwatch because he “was too crazy”. She was literally by his side & followed his ways & fought side by side. Maul challenged & defeated Pre Vizsla, pre Vizsla and most of his squad allowed maul to kill him because of his honor & code. Bo Katan wasn’t accepting of that (Letting an outsider rule mandalore) so she called everybody else traitors but unfortunately history did not see it that way lol & thus creating a real civil war within the mandalorians. Maul brainwashed mandalorians into thinking she was the real traitor. It deadass surprises me how maul doesn’t seem to be an important part in mandalore history knowing he was the reason why mandalorians split up & had to create different clans. Idk why he’s never mentioned nor why Paz vizsla never said anything, especially knowing that last name’s history with Bo & maul. Idk why he missed that information out because it’s literally the reason why there’re in the state that there’re in.. 🤦🏽♂️ & 3, Bo literally only joined satine & her people because she had no other choice & hated maul.
Doesn't Bo-Katan leave Death Watch when Pre Vizsla is decapitated. She obeys Pre Vizsla, and when he is killed, she looks devastated and turns against Maul.
Well she actually betrayed her people twice, betraying her sister and even Vizsla accepted that only the strongest should rule Mandalore. Maul in that fight made it as fair as possible even handicapping himself basically. She actually disobeyed Vizsla and caused civil war on Mandalore. That's why she wasn't liked in the beginning of the series when she and her squad who were known as terrorists on Mandalore acted tough infront of Boba who actually had more honor for the code than they ever had. It wouldn't have mattered who it was, a sith, a jedi, she wouldn't accept it because he or she wouldn't be a Mandalorian but that's not what the code stands for. She basically betrayed the tradition of the Mandalorians, not Maul.
I actually quite liked this episode a lot. I always love seeing the Empire’s transition after the war and all that plays into that. And I actually have a soft spot for Pershing, I feel like he’s not all bad but was more of a pawn. Kinda reminds me of Draco, or Lucious by the end of HP but less evil. It was great seeing the TIE Interceptors as well! Just wish we got a little more of the Mythosaur but I have a feeling we’ll be seeing it again soon enough.
Yeah totally agree, he really doesn't seem inherently evil, just a smart guy kinda led astray in general. Seeing that mind flayer on max power was kinda brutal
@@hidingman3578 Super brutal, especially if you know the EU Mind Flayers and what they’re capable of. And now that I’m thinking of it maybe he’s more of a Grima Wormtongue like character, a good person lead astray from they’re path by an evil antagonist.
@@ZK1.0 there are plenty of cults that deny being cults cos they're "following the Bible", but at the end of the day they're still cults. Look at what happened to Din - they took him in as an orphan and indoctrinated him into their cult cos recruiting sensible adults is impossible for them.
I think Bo is just being cautious around mentioning the Mythosaur, I think she made the right move not saying it just yet. She needs to go back there and confirm what she saw, even though she is absolutely sure what she saw and is right. The Mando parts of this episode were super interesting
One thing I’m enjoying about the story so far is that we don’t 100% know Bo’s thoughts/motivations, making it way more fun to try to interpret things. I could see her going either way
I think Bo liked being accepted and feeling like a part of the group that isn't just about the Darksaber and rule. Her arc in this episode is kind of reconnecting to the roots; visiting her home, the story of her first time at the Waters and now she bathed again, then her castle got destroyed... All suggests that she needs to abandon her ways and do things differently. It is a Bo Katan rebirth - the final step in her evolution maybe. Sure, she spotted the beast and she still wants to rule, but I feel like it's gonna be a new and improved Bo Katan this time given all that's happened in the episode.
Bo Katan finally a part of a group of Mandalorians again hit right the feels. You could tell she appreciates it in an unexpected way. I think Bo Katan is slowly starting to realise, that the old ways they follow might actually be beneficial
@@dancingvalkyrie I disagree, as a massive defender of Andor I constantly argue against people who passionatly and irrationally hate it, however you cannot say Mando is "all spectacle with no substance" when both shows masterfully delved into the SW universe in different ways.
3:00 I was the one that mentioned Thrawn in the Watch Party. What I wanted to say was that the TIE Interceptors are playing a bit too strategically to have a bait to lure Bo-Katan and ambush her with a fleet in the clouds, ready to rapid fire and take her ship down. Not only was that unusually strategic for Imperials, but this strategy of a fleet ambushing in the Clouds has happened once before in Rebels S4 E9, as Hera and her fleet entered Lothal, where they were ambushed by TIE Fighters in the clouds. This is why I believe Thrawn was behind this. It’s not only a strategic maneuver, it’s also something he’s done before.
I agree it was definitely a highly skilled strategist organizing the attack. Now the question is which ones-Thrawn or Gideon? Or are they working together?
It felt like such a thrawn foreshadowing to me. It was so unexpected when that surprise element came through. But what is the end goal and why bo katans castles and trying to lure her out to her Doom
I think her witnessing the mythosaur, shook her beliefs. She stated her original ceremony was 'for show', it wasn't serious to her. Now seeing the creature changes her perspective. Her demeanor afterwards and after the the castles destruction, is more reserved as tho She is reconsidering her entire way of life. Also the way she moved with the darksaber vs djinn, it was effortless for her while still heavy for djinn
Regarding the closing scene, I thought it was great. I loved that moment. While it makes sense that she's making calculated decisions regarding her ambitions, I really feel like she was kind of touched and caught off guard with how she was welcomed by those she had previously claimed to oppose. Thats what made the scene special imo. Despite the fact that her face was under a helmet, you could feel that it really meant something to her. Great acting and writing with brilliant subtlety!
At the end I felt more that Bo Khatan was surprised and pleased to be welcomed in such a community, hard to tell with her helmet on, but she felt very lonely and depressed at the beginning of the season, so maybe she would enjoy this potential life with Din's community and it could create a conflict inside of her, if her wanting to live by her own creed goes against the Children of the Watch beliefs, and if defeating the mythosaur doesn't align with the idea of living as bounty hunters in this community even if they were welcoming to her. Or maybe she will be honest and try to rally everyone and ask advice from the armorer on how to beat the beast
The stuff with Pershing had a lot of Andor vibes. the whole time I was tensed up because his "new life" looked VERY similar to Syril Karn's from Andor (that office the new Republic had Pershing working in looked a lot like the Bureau of Standards, and the apartment complex reminded me of Syril's apartment.) And not-so-subtle hints were placed everywhere that showed the New Republic isn't quite so "free" and "just" as it would have you believe. From the strict schedules the Amnesty Program members have to follow tom security droids EVERYWHERE telling people "tickets please" and "do not touch" to finally the reveal that the New Republic have a "repurposed" Imperial lobotomy machine that doesn't even have any safety mechanisms to prevent it from being turned up to full power (seriously, why did the machine HAVE that dial? Super red-flag-y.) It shows that the New Republic is making the exact same mistakes the Old Republic did that allowed for Palpatine to manipulate everything in his favour to form the Empire.
Both sides are flawed in their own ways, no side is the “right” one. Sometimes the new system is no different than the old one, even if they claim to be the good guys.
@@rico_fed Indeed. While the Empire was overtly cruel and authoritarian, there were still individuals living under it who are more complex and not "evil," as seen with both Syril Karn from Andor and Persher in this show. But both the old and new Republic, while founded on grounds of good intention, are corrupted by bureaucracy, economic inequality and thinly veiled prejudice. We see the New Republic deals with "the past" the same way the Empire did with regards to technology. In Andor we saw Clone Wars era Venator class Star Destroyers (which many have pointed out are much more efficient in design to Imperial class ships) being dismantled on Ferrix, and here we see all Imperial tech (except for the lobotomy machine which is SUPER suspicious) likewise being dismantled instead of salvaged and repurposed. Side note...I love how this character is named "Pen Persher"... Get it? "Pen Pusher"? Because he's a bookworm scientist?
@@LukiKruki Oh I know Star Wars is no stranger to punny names. Porkins, Selatious Crum, Elan Sleezbaggino, Sha'a Gi... Count Dooku referencing both "Doku" (the Japanese word for poison) and Count Dracula (whom Christopher Lee famously played back in the day,) and the happy accident that was "Vader" roughly translating to "Father" in Dutch. Hadn't heard about the Qui Gon one though. Most puns I hear from his name are about the hard drink "Gin." And then of course there's Obi Wan's home planet, "Stu Jon."
The scenes where Dr Pershing is talking to the robot gave me Ad Astra vibes where Bradd Pitt had to keep reporting in to talk to a robot about his feelings.
As Bo witnessed the Mythosaur, a Mandalorian who seems to lose the Dark Saber every five minutes, and some naive cultists, I can't help but think ... just 'smile and wave, boys, smile and wave.' Despite everything she had crumbling around her, Bo maintains her cool and navigates the situation until all the pieces fall into place and the truth is revealed
Personally, I feel like time with Din affected Bo a lot, as well as seeing Mythosaur, it's possible that this season we'll see a transformation in Bo, and I sincerely hope so. As for the fact that Bo didn't tell Din that she saw the Mythosaur, I don't think she really knows if what she saw is real or just a delusion, hence the questions to Din, did he see anything or is there something alive down there, a bit like you're the only one seeing something that shouldn't exist, you don't know if you saw it for real or maybe your brain is playing tricks on you and the more you think about it the more you're not sure which is the truth. It seems to me that Bo herself doesn't know what to think about all of this.
Yeah I think as an audience we’re suppose to worry about her plotting taking over but really she’s buying into the way and she really wasn’t sure she saw it but will later confess it to mando
Bo def knows what she saw and now that she has lost the saber and her followers she will try and tame the mythosaur to try and rule again It’s in her bloodline , She’s a princess Her life has no meaning to her if she isn’t a leader. As for THE MANDALORIAN I believe Bo respects Din’s “childish” views and ways and also sees it as exactly what’s needed to have mandalore rise again since the planet is actually habitable. She understands Din’s views are needed for what it takes to reinstate mandalore and so that’s how Din is now key in Bo’s plan to take what’s rightfully hers so she will work and play along by his side so she can eventually retake The throne. I see it as a Avatar 1 kinda thing where jake sully is an outsider to the Navi but since he takes the orange bird lol, he becomes toruk makto and because of the Navis ancient ways and beliefs they now seem him as their leader. Bo will try to be their toruk makto. Remember when she thought Din had shown up once again at her home she said “let’s get rid of him once and for all” She is not changing her views thanks to spending time with Din. She only understands he’s key to her being able to rule “something” again. However, she’s not THE MANDALORIAN whose legend will be told to foundlings for generations to come. Din Djarin is. Even tho Bo will try and tame mythosaur, din will end up doing it himself with help of Grogu. At the end the mandalorian will become the first of the new rise of the creed in mandalore having tamed mythosaur, wielding darksaber and by having Grogu under his wing that’s how mandalorians will once again work alongside force wielders as they once did. Since they know they can trust him. Din will be the one to bring mandalore back and Grogu will bring back the Jedi order. They’re equals in many ways.
@@ArValeska if that's the way it plays out, it's going to be really boring. I mean, if any one of us random fans can predict exactly how the season will play out, then it's not good writing. Which, this season has had plenty of bad writing, so maybe you're right. Also, if we are to buy into your Avatar analogy, Jake Sully initially infiltrates the Navi for the humans, but eventually has a change of heart & joins the Navi. But you're claiming Bo-Katan is being deceitful & won't actually join the covert, so I don't really see the connection.
@@ArValeska This is certainly a possibility. Here’s an unlikely but crazy idea too: What if Bo and Din are knocked out by the mythosaur and Grogu single-handedly tames the beast? Would that make Grogu Mandalore and would Bo and Din become his guardian-advisors in that case?
@cyberpup2246 the audience dropping because of sequel connections is sweet news, for that's all the mouse really cares. So if there's anything we can really do to help, is not watching anymore.
It won’t be exact but 100% Thrawn as big bad and the resurrection of the empire or “first order” (hate that name).. remember Thrawn is doing it all for a bigger cause though, the protection of the Chiss, wouldn’t be surprised if he’s Palpatines number 1 hand
@cyberpup2246 I'd like to see that too, but if it all lead to the events of the sequels, what's the point? If we only could find a clue setting a different path, like some think about Ezra saving Ashoka, but I'm not so sure and still pretty worried.
I think Dave and John are foreshadowing Thrawn because of the line that Bo Karan said, “That’s a lot of Tie’s for an Imperial War Lord”. I think they’re Thrawns ships and everything leads up to it. I think he knows that Mando needed to go to Mandalore to be redeemed so they waited for him. Classic Thrawn with knowing the religion/practices of his enemies. Strategical genius when he used the interceptors to draw out Mando and Bo while the bombers came in and destroyed the castle. We also never saw his destroyer
@@DS9TREK but Thrawn isn’t one to hold a grudge or attack so recklessly. I do think Thrawn was in some way involved for sure, but I don’t think we have an idea of the motive yet, I am confident that he wouldn’t just randomly attack Bo seemingly out of the blue though, even if he has reason to want her gone.
@@DS9TREK maybe because he freed moff Gideon and they’re after grogu again? Not too sure but the best option would be because Gideon is working with Thrawn
I think the use of codes instead of names is established so the former Imps' identity is protected from vigilantism, blackmail or the sort, also makes them harder to find, one could imagine how many of these guys were responsible for a lot of deaths which also means they would have a lot of vengeful enemies after the war.
This is my hope too. I like the idea of an arc where she believes in the Old Ways of Mandalore again and is no longer a doubting Thomas. Episode name The Convert I hope has a double meaning Pershing and Bo
It felt really heart warming to see the mandalorians embrace the pair of apostates. You could tell there was alot of emotion under bo katans helmet almost as if you can see her expression right through
Bo was not an apostate as she had never been a part of the Children of the Watch, and she followed a different Mandalorian creed (of which there are many).
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 Paz Vizla regarded both of them as apostates when they was met outside the cave. True she wasn't part of the children of the watch but according to their beliefs "your house has fallen from the way, you are both apostates" so though she was in a different creed they considered her an apostate to the way
@Sergeant Hunter First off, sergeant, I'm a commander, not a trooper. Secondly, the good captain is probably on some backwater world trying not to lose his mind over one of General Skywalker's ludicrous plans, I'll have to ask him next time my men from the 88th and Rex's 501st are both back for shore leave on Triple Zero.
@Rattlyn Animations The Children of the Watch are a cult and almost certainly believe that any Mando'ade that doesn't follow their creed is an apostate, even if that Mando'ade is more Mandalorian than they are.
Interesting to see a completetly different opinion. The reason I disliked this episode was that it indeed felt like Andor. I loved Andor, but the Mando show should not be about societies. They shouldn't steer away THAT much from first 2 seasons.
@@FROST-ui5fr but... who cares about his side of the story, there are countless of characters like him. I just really hope this side story was actually a bridge to main plot of S3 (which we dont know yet, he bathed in the Waters, what now lol).
@@yaqbec23 I can see your criticism. But I believe this episode is very important. Jon and Dave wouldn't have created a pointless episode of this scale. I just hope they don't try and tie it into the sequels too much, since with all this cloning stuff, i feel like it's heading that way.
@@GreenFalcon926 yea it would be pretty boring if they use all this suspense and mystery just to climax with the "somehow palpatine returned" moment in ep 9 lol.
It's been a while since I have visited your channel. I was a big fan back during the days before you jumped in front of the camera. Once that happened I started to feel the channel became more about you, which for the record is totally fine. It's your channel. You built it up. It was always about your love of star wars. It makes sense to make that progression. So not hating, not at all. You're a good dude who deserves all the success. I just wanted a little more of the way it was. Anyway. Great breakdown. Super happy I came back for a visit
I think you are wrong about Bo. She is a defeated person who gave up on the throne. She wanted Din gone before she had to save him. Seeing the Mythosaur shook her to her chore. She is like han solo. He thought the force was a bunch of mystic mumbo jumbo. She is now starting to believe in their legends. Din is still the Mandalorian chosen one. Bo will help him reunite the Mandalorians.
Na i think she saw the mythosaur as an opportunity to finally Unite all factions of the Mandalorians under her rule. Her time with the children of the watch would help her get into the good graces of them.
@@ayushman3359 in rebels it looked like she was ok finding a successor because she failed already. After failing yet again i think shed rather groom din to be the next leader.
@@mathewkamioka465 then why was she mad af on din after the whole darksaber issue. She was willing to get rid of him in the last eps. remember. Also, why didn't she mention anything about the great mythosaur to din. Seems to me like she just got another way to rule the people when she saw the beast and is now biting time till she rides it.
@Mathew Kamioka, yep, you get it. She was having a “crisis of faith” she is having a hard time believing she even saw the mythasaur, I believe she asked Din because she was wondering if she imagined it. You see as she visits the living waters and Din and her discuss her father she starts to become melancholic. The idea that she wants to rule Mandalore above all else is inconsistent with her character arc from Clone Wars, and Rebels.
she left because Maul killed Vizla and he took over and she rejected his rule. she eventually started to see the error of her previous ways and how her sister was right leading to an alliance with the Jedi and Ahsoka. Also bo isn't going to be an antagonist she is up to something but that doesn't mean she's an antagonist I believe she wants Dinn to join her and help unite their people not be a vicious war lord
I agree. I thought that she didn't tell Din or anyone about it because she didn't want someone to think that she has lost her mind. The Mythosaurs are supposed to be extinct.
I kind of want to believe this, but part of me is also suspicious that she could be manipulating everyone. One thing I’m enjoying about the story so far is that we don’t 100% know Bo’s thoughts/motivations, making it way more fun to try to interpret things
I think Bo is genuinely considering following the watch because she saw the mythosaur which was just supposed to be a legend so maybe the children of the watch and their “crazy ideas” aren’t so crazy after all and she seemed to start respecting mando’s beliefs more.
@@greirattm4900 I don't know If I would say that the political stuff is boring, it's just that they set up a major cliffhanger last episode and didn't deliver with this one. Especially since the Pershing stuff is just to justify the sequels. If they were spaced out between multiple episodes or had just been condensed it would have been a lot better.
What’s interesting about the scene at the carnival on Coruscant that I think most people missed is that March of the Resistance from The Force Awakens is playing in the background the whole time
Personally I'm a bit tired of the Empire stuff. It's like Star Trek and the Borg. When they run out of story ideas...It's the Borg! The Empire is becoming that for Star Wars.
@Moabman there's so many intricatecies inside the empire. I like the deep dive to see all the cogs and how they work. It was a bit much in this episode but I know it will be important in future episodes!
@Cdubs Ya I mean I think that can be cool. But if they're going to do that then do it before episode 6. If your going to show the Empire I want the emperor and Vader. After episode 6 it kind seems pointless
@Moabman that's true. Still cool to see the transition I guess! And how the empire was still holding on. I found it interesting! Should be more Mando in upcoming episodes hopefully!
@@moabman6803 I respectfully disagree. The Thrawn storyline that took place after Ep 6 was some of the best Star Wars ever. And this show is setting that up perfectly, even if not an exact replica (for obvious reasons that would be impossible)
Bo never left cause she thought Pre Viszla was crazy. She literally supported him and was die hard for Deathwatch. She left cause Maul won in combat, and saw him as an outsider. You can go back to the episode where they had their duel and see how she was devastated when Viszla was defeated. That’s when she separated with her Nite owls and wanted to do everything possible to take Maul down. Which included helping her sister 15:40
Yeaa exactly like hearing that got me tight. Bo Katan never left Pre Vizsla or left deathwatch because he “was too crazy”. She was literally by his side & followed his ways & fought side by side. Maul challenged & defeated Pre Vizsla, pre Vizsla and most of his squad allowed maul to kill him because of his honor & code. Bo Katan wasn’t accepting of that (Letting an outsider rule mandalore) so she called everybody else traitors but unfortunately history did not see it that way lol & thus creating a real civil war within the mandalorians. Maul brainwashed mandalorians into thinking she was the real traitor. It deadass surprises me how maul doesn’t seem to be an important part in mandalore history knowing he was the reason why mandalorians split up & had to create different clans. Idk why he’s never mentioned nor why Paz vizsla never said anything, especially knowing that last name’s history with Bo & maul. Idk why he missed that information out because it’s literally the reason why there’re in the state that there’re in.. 🤦🏽♂️ & 3, Bo literally only joined satine & her people because she had no other choice & hated maul.
Wow that girl doing the poor doctor like that was some sick shit !! She was loving every minute of the trip her and Doc went on !! Can't wait to see her motives , the new republic looked pretty scary as well ! What an episode !!
Fun fact: that square with the mountain is actually where Satine met up with Obi wan when she was framed for murder. They sat on the circular bit around the peak
That snippet of "Palpatine's teachings" feels like 100% Dave Filoni reminding Favreau and Ludwig Göransson (composer of the show) about how it's important to reference this all leads to palpatine and snoke, and that for better or (definitely 😅) worse, to ep 9.
I really doubt Bo is going to break bad. She saw the mythosaur which made her second guess her beliefs that it's all just superstition. She gets accepted into the watch, and mind you now she is homeless, so I think she's going to work with them. Idk what to tell people who didn't like the Pershing story. I hate to question someone's fandom but this is like literally what legends was - filling in the gaps and answering the questions that people wonder about. And even if you need all pew pew, the episode starts with an unbelievably epic dogfight. 8/10 for me on this one.
A cool little detail, the lady officer when they were fleeing the skip actually called file with her hand ( this is a military hand sign formation, which means get one behind the other)
Andor writers went crazy with this one 😂😂 All jokes aside I liked the episode other than the courescant stuff dragging on for like 10 mins too many and 10 Mins too little of mando. Excited to see where this goes though I think the imperial officer lady is still working for the empire, and she knows the Empire/Gideon needs the cloning equipment, so she used him to get it, and then framed him
I figured she has either an agenda to someone else or she is dead set of flaying her past away making up for what she did, but Dr. Pershing though I didn’t trust him it was a jaw dropping moment too see her do that too him, made me feel bad for him
@@ShayanGivehchian they were not allowed to leave the area they were housed and work in. If they tried to buy a ticket, theh would have been flagged and caught
That scene with Mando just falling into the pool was supposed to be terrifying but it was really hilarious to me(I don’t know if that was intentional or not). He just drops like a rock 😂. Also thanks for the breakdown Theory. 👍🏼
I'm pretty sure she thinks this will help her take charge later on, but I definitely also think that she now understands how important having everyone stand behind a single culture can help unify Mandalorians in the first place.
Great vid SWT. I felt bad for Pershing when he realized he was set up. It was really cool to see Coruscant post-Empire, I kept scanning the skylne for the Jedi Temple, couldn't find though.
My sense is that Bo may well be weighing her future options, given her secret knowledge of the mythosaur and her sudden inclusion in a new faction she has previously mocked, but I do NOT think she is all cynical calculation and ridicule in her head at this point. The acting since the sighting of the mythosaur, and even at the moment of Bo’s sudden, full acceptance into a new group, suggests to me that she is reeling from these new events, sifting through her former feelings and possibly rethinking them.
Although I may not understand it immediately, or at all over time, I always have to remember that everything is intentional. Every little detail is important in some way, to the story
I know the middle part may have felt sort of slow to some but I loved this episode! Even the middle! It showed us even more of Coruscant, I also still love the parallels between Mando and Bad Batch. Mando is really now showing the transition from Empire to New Republic in a way we haven’t explored and I think it’s intriguing to see ways in which corruption is obviously already a problem in the new Republic and show how once again the republic is just like the empire in being willing to unethically do things to erase the past regime.
anyone else noticed when din bo and grogu were on the bo's ship and they sayed "this is the way" and grogu tries to say it too i only heard the last sentence of his saying " Way"
If memory suits me right Bo Katan didn’t leave Pre Vizsla’s Death Watch. She left when Darth Maul beheaded Pre Vizsla stating “Mandalore will never be ruled by an outsider!” Despite their way being that ‘the strongest shall rule’. Bo Katan is a major hypocrite.
what did you think about the Plagueis theme? Do you think the Ties were loyal to Thrawn??
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Well it wasn’t a random attack, whoever it was new they were both there.
It was Snoke’s theme. The same theme was played in S2 episode 4 when Mando found the cloned test subjects.
@@jangomango66 hmm
sound good
Mando fans hoping for Thrawn are just as hilarious as Bad Batch fans hoping for Delta Squad to become the new villains. You guys are so desperate for cameos to somehow improve these mediocre stories.
Anyone else find it kinda wholesome how the other Mandalorians were so welcoming of not only Din but also Bo-Katan when they were redeemed
No because theyre religious extremists who'll kick you ot for taking off your helmet
Yeah it was sweet
I think that she may start to feel as though she's part of a family again, which is what's been teased for her this season. Hard to tell what she'll do regarding the Mythosaur but its possible that she may develop as a character and have a sort of change of heart
It was nice
@@KabutoSolo3yea with everything she’s been saying so far in the past episode I agree with ur take
The dogfight at the start of the episode was one of the best on-planet battles I've ever seen in Star Wars.
Oh yeah, that TIE interceptor CGI was top tier.
Bo’s move to finish off one of those last ties before the other squadron came in was one of the best moves I’ve ever seen 🔥
Agreed. Watching an N1 Naboo star fight take out tie interceptors was amazing.
@@michaelputman6368 ever since I saw that ship design for the first time I’ve wondered if that technique could be down, and I about came in my pants watching it
Production quality top notch
Polite correction - Bo did not leave Death Watch because of Pre Vizsla's extremism. She left after Maul killed him and took his place as leader, because she was opposed to an outsider ruling Mandalore.
Actually wild that he missed this…
Exactly, filthy racist. A xenophobe. Doesn't sound like she would make a good leader....
Facts
Yep
I'm actually shocked he missed that part. Thank you!
I don't think Bo is faking it. I think seeing the Mythosaur was a spiritual moment for her. She has commented multiple times about how the thing that bothers her the most is the fracturing of her people. The only way to bring them all together is to take the viewpoint of the most extreme faction and work toward middle ground. This is just the beginning of Bo's redemption arc.
Right I hope she rules, din isn't cut out for it, doubt he even considered it despite weilding the darksaber. Although I could see him riding the mythosuar. Hoping ppl are wrong and she doesn't challange din
you are right
@@agentnukaz1715 I don’t think she will, I think she’s still processing the info with the mythosaur, and if she wanted the darksaber she would’ve challenged for it already, but I think she has accepted her time has passed, and now she sees hope in Din. She went to rescue him without even thinking about it, she cares far more about the Mandalorian people being reunited than selfishly ruling them herself. On the contrary, Vizla has spite for her & her clan, sees her as an ages-old clan rival, and he’s envious of Din. He’s going to do something rash because he believes it’s his birthright. At some point Bo will tell Din about the mythosaur & she’ll tell him that he’s the one who needs to do it. Somebody to rule Mandalore with a clean slate, who believes in the way, and has no thirst for power. Din is the perfect pick. He’s a good man, who doesn’t seek fame/fortune/power, and he cares about his people. The darksaber came to him for a reason, and now the mythosaur has revealed itself in his presence.
100% Bo’s redemption arc
@@pilzner1118 but why hide that she saw it?...the only thing that puzzles me.
@@Midascrown5 I think she might be in shock, like all of the things that she thought were myths are unveiling in front of her eyes, she may even have some hesitation in believing what she saw herself-
I think the hesitation of telling anyone primarily comes from her not knowing what to make of it yet. Like her confession will have her saying “I’m not sure but I think” or “I wasn’t sure but I am now”, as in she needed time to process
Dr. Pershing telling the Mon Calamari that "it was a trap" was too funny, even in that tense moment. hahaha
For me, the whole Dr. Pershing piece, felt like an episode out of Andor.
Eh, the acting and dialogue was more stale than a rusted graham cracker, but the plot was somewhat similar
I prefer the slow pacing to the dog fights in space.. tbh I just enjoy the unknown, new characters more cos I know there isn’t a mountain of lore behind them.
Haha yup, the acting often felt stiff, and the dialog seemed corny, but I get what you mean about it feeling like something from _Andor._ Man, what a surprise that series was for me. I'm spoiled by its first season for more mature, better writing in _Star Wars._
Some of the sets really clashed with adjacent scenes. Small room to sound stage to full cg.
I felt some of that from Andor too.
@@JohnKerbaugh Andor was mostly filmed on location.
Coruscant live action again was beautiful. Would love to see a fly by of the Jedi Temple
The Jedi Temple isn't in ruins like in the EU. It was turned into the Imperial Palace where Palpatine resided. It could be now since the Empire was forced off Coruscant it's been abandoned, or turned into the location of the New Republic military operations.
A fly by 🔫🔫
@@coruscant100Which is pretty sad because that temple is a historical monument. Do they not give Luke, one of the very last Jedi around, a say on how the temple should be used?
@@FreezeFun perhaps he did get a say, and decided not to reopen the Jedi Temple...yet. He probably wants to gain more students and masters before moving into the Temple itself.
I definitely agree! Every time I see coruscant i always think about the Jedi temple. What’s it looks like, the condition of the temple. We never really got to see it when palpatine was living there but it would be nice to see more clips of the Jedi temple.
It's pretty impressive how the actors are able to express emotion despite wearing masks
It’s easier since we can picture exactly what we want to see when their helms are on.
Never watched RVB
That Vizla dude was staring daggers pissed.
@@anglishbookcraft1516 Yeah I'd say that gives us our way of interpreting how they look and feel inside
Haha I see what you did there. They literally should've watched The Mandalorian before coming to that assumption
Did you notice when Bo and Din both said "This is the Way" Grogu babbled something that was in a roughly sentance-like cadence? He was likely either babbling back "This is the Way," embracing his Mandalorian side--or he was trying to warn them about the incoming attack (which happens seconds afterward), possibly because he saw it in a vision or just got a six sense about it, embracing his Jedi side.
This is the way
I totally thought he was about to say his first words. Bo-Katan and Din definitely jolted their heads over at Grogu.
I definitely heard "This is the Way" in a babbly way. This-is-the-Way the stops and lenght is like that.
I think he was just trying to mimic them and they are just hinting at him finally saying his first words
I heard "Mmm, the way this is."
Bo Katan is really shining so far in this season
Felt bad for Dr. Pershing being betrayed and tortured by someone he trusted
I saw it coming from a mile away but I hoped that maybe she had changed
@@daltondee5666 since the first scene she appeared she seemed suspicious but I still couldn’t believe it when she betrayed him lol
The biscuits was the give away. How could she have gotten them without Imperial assistance, let alone still have them packaged with the Imperial logo on them.
Pretty sure if you're going the distance of using mind flayers on former Imperials, you wouldn't let them see sticker icons of their old bosses.
He kinda deserves it taking that much up of an episode
@@warherojango936 true i thought he was going to get assasinated when they rang his door
Her forces abandoned her without a second thought. The Watch accepted her without hesitation, despite past differences.
She was redeemed. This is the Way.
@@LorenzoCanon91 This is the way.
@@LorenzoCanon91 This is the way
This is the way!
This is the way
Bo-Katan never betrayed Pre-Vizla, she just sided with Satine after Maul killed Vizla because she hated Maul.
Exactly! Crazy how they keep getting this insanely wrong
was looking for this comment.
Lol I was like uhh this ain’t right
Thank you!
Thank god you typed this. I was perplexed when he said the history lesson wrong
Focusing on a Calamari and saying "it's a trap" is probably one of the best moment in this episode. Well what should I expect from bricks and screws.
Honestly, all this guy does is bitch and moan about SW. Enjoy what you enjoy, don't let others get you down.
I also remember that Grogu tried to reply the "this is the way" quote, or al least that is what I think he tried to say.
You're way to easy to please then. It was a terrible, unfunny scene.
@@crossfire34 Humor is subjective.
Why are you so mad about someone enjoying something??
@@d_rod3 Because terrible references like that treat the audience like we're babies.
I think Bo’s faith in the creed has been restored by the time she spends with din. Witnessed him recite the words her father and the culture taught her, seeing the mythosaur. Being embraced by fellow mandos. Idk that feeling of belonging is very powerful specially if you are feeling lost and abandoned by your kind
I think so too, I think it’s premature to say she is only cynical.
@@moocorp4574 Agreed.
This episode itself felt like a Star Wars movie in general, I was GLUED to the screen. I loved how they were all accepting Bo near the end, it was beautiful
Because they're a cult and cults will take anyone they can get.
Every episode should be hour-long.
@DS9TREK exactly. Take a dip in shallow water, you're in. Remove your helmet, you're out. What's beautiful about that?
@@DS9TREK one of us, one of us, one of us
@@repticare101 Andor is great.
That 180 Bo Katan did with her ship finishing off the last Tie fighter was sick
A testament to her skills as a pilot.
It was great. Two 180 moves in a single episode - a single battle in fact, two minutes apart! Even better because I hate waiting.
Absolutely, also that Gauntlet fighter is BIG. It might be fast but it's heavy so turning will requires a lot of skill! What a powerhouse Bo Katan is!
Dr. Pershing's story was so sad. He wanted to do good and got used. Then he got his memory wiped. All that medical training, wiped. Even Bix remembered the funeral song in Andor.
Agreed, the New Republic is looking pretty morally questionable right now instead of being better than the Empire...
@@webbedshadow2601 you can't judge a whole nation state by a few individuals.
@@DS9TREKin real life sure, in a story we’re shown individuals for a reason and it’s the only way we can judge a group; by their representatives
@@DS9TREK This is the fucking capital tf.
would that have happened had the imperial not messed with the dials???
or was that just to fatally kill him?
The doctor Pershing part gave a vibe of 1984 and how the new republic and the empire are not that different in some ways. Also, I think that Bo Katan, who was alone in an empty palace, felt a little empathy being received by the Mandalorian order. Also, I think the armorer can be the 3rd sister of Bo and Satine that gets mentioned but never shown in the Clone Wars.
I was thinking the same thing about 1984
Why are we assuming Bo hasn’t learned her lesson yet? After all she’s been through you’d think she’d understand she cannot do this alone. We are seeing a different side of Bo, it seems like she cares for Din, albeit in her own way.
Plot twist, they both ride the mythosuar and make mado babies with their helmets on 😂
@@agentnukaz1715 More like Plot fulfilled. This is the way.
@@Belltf yea Bo is def gonna get her plot hole filled 😏
I'm assuming they're going to hook up at some point. It'll be weird if they can't take their helmets off lol.
@@Memnon45 that’s called role play my friend 😎
I know Bo likely has her own agenda but I wonder if she had a sort of awakening religiously. She mocked the idea of the mines being a Mythosaur layer then saw one face to face. She is the “The Convert” here. I wonder if embracing “the way” has more to just ruling Mandalore, even though that seems like the obvious event this is leading to.
Agreed...she also said "This is the way" again this episode but this time she was serious about it.
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3 seasons in and we still don't know what "The Way" is lol
I could not agree with this take more!
Not a fan of " This is the way " not at all. Far to much control
I truly felt bad for the doctor…
He is but a pawn in the master plan...
She did him so dirty
Same thought they did the episode really well but dang did it suck to see that happen to him 😭
She made Kathleen proud.
Certainly no Walter White.
Mando jumping out of the ship to switch ships was dope
I felt really bad for Pershing. It wasn’t too long. Andor has hopefully taught some of us that patience and thorough storytelling will pay off!
I think what could happen is, because we saw Bo handle the dark saber masterfully, she gets it from Din as he doesn't appear to be worth. But he finds out about the Mythosaur and either him or Grogu end up riding it, making it the only way for Mandalore to be together to have both ideologies joint in order to rule it in a way everyone respects it
I wouldn’t call Bo-Katan an “antagonist” but I could definitely see her using Din and the others to help herself gain support when she tries to rule Mandalore again
gotta rise through those Ranks
You are confusing antagonist with villain it seems. She is definitely in antagonist territory simply because she does stand in opposition to our protagonist Mando. Her intentions are definitely against his but I don't think they are evil by any stretch so, therefore yes an antagonist, no not a villain.
@@zakkmylde1712 That would be true if Mando actually wanted to rule. As of Book of Boba Fett he doesn't, so unless that sentiment changes we cant say she will be an antagonist. Also what if they hook up, they certainly have that chemistry
@@DeepMukherjee she's in fundamental opposition no matter what because of her feelings of the children of the watch, not because she wants to rule. There is also the fact that despite the fact that he doesn't want to rule he also holds the dark saber and that in and of itself puts her in an antagonistic position regardless of her feelings about the children.
@@zakkmylde1712 She saved Din's life twice. So I think she falls more in the neutral to good category.
I think the interceptors were absolutely thrawn especially after the “that’s a lot of interceptors for an imperial warlord” line (only a grand admiral could have that many)
Agreed! Especially with the purrgils in ep1.
@@thetrollingmaster5385 couldn't he be interested in putting his hands on Grogu too?
@@nilvenet1346 doesn’t thrawn know Bo Katan from Sabine? From rebels. Been a long time since I watched it but pretty sure he has beef with Bo Karan
No, this was probably the majority of the launch bays of an Imperial class Star Destroyer, or a lesser portion from a bigger ship. It was more than a light cruiser could carry. It's not neccesarily an Admiral, because the rank of the CO cannot be worked out from what was shown. It does show that whoever did this strike has at least one full sized capital ship from a major fleet as it has interceptors.
Nah it's probably Moff Gideon. Who else would go there and intentionally bomb Bo's castle? That seems awfully personal. Thrawn doesn't have bad blood with Bo or the Mandalorians. Also he's probably in the unknown regions still.
Din and Bo working together in the dogfight was bad ass. I didn’t mind the Dr. storyline but I love the Mandalorian storyline we got going on right now. Bo not telling Din about the Mythosaur wasn’t surprising. Loved the scene when Din and Bo were accepted back into the Creed. The Mandalorians are caring when following the way and glad to see the different armor colors and other Mandalorians starting to come more together! Can’t wait for rise of Mandalore.
I felt bad for the doctor but feel like the episode spent to long on him but I didn’t mind I love to see Coruscant more
I personally saw Bo's time with the Children of the Watch as her feeling like she has a people again since she was alone for so long and i guess felt abandoned. Now she has people who welcome her with no questions or strings attached and she's going through it
That was my read too. It really could go either way though. Honestly love how you can't see their faces so you have to speculate on their emotions from body movements alone
I thought the same. Especially after the TIE Bombers blew up her castle, she found a new home in the covert.
I noticed that Grogu sensed the tie fighters before the ship caught them on radar, just cool to see how force sensitive he has become
I love the way the title plays with both Bo Katan converting to the creed as well as Dr. Pershing converting to the New Republic. I'm also loving the dual perspective of the Republic vs. the Empire being masterfully shown, once again. I'm so glad they're exploring the gray area of that morality.
Good points and it also throws shade as to who exactly IS The Mandalorian of the show's title - Din, Grogu...or Bo?
What I think they are doing is using S3 to experiment combining the more conventional Star Wars stuff with more Andor like stuff and Andor was an experiment to test that new concept in itself
Grogu saying "this is the way" was adorable
At 15:26 you say that she left Pre Vizsla because she thought he was too crazy, when in reality Pre was killed by Maul and she was still loyal to his vision, not joining the new rightful leader of Mandalore: Maul.
She was basically with Vizsla until his death.
Thank you in saying this because your correct 💯 yes she didn't leave just to leave or because she no longer believed in his way like you said and how it was shown visla died she didn't agree with MAUL'S ideology
Wow theory not knowing star wars history, my shock.
Ya she was with him until death
right? she literally told Maul upfront that she refused to accept an outsider as leader and Jetted outta there with a few members.
Yeaa exactly like hearing that got me tight. Bo Katan never left Pre Vizsla or left deathwatch because he “was too crazy”. She was literally by his side & followed his ways & fought side by side. Maul challenged & defeated Pre Vizsla, pre Vizsla and most of his squad allowed maul to kill him because of his honor & code. Bo Katan wasn’t accepting of that (Letting an outsider rule mandalore) so she called everybody else traitors but unfortunately history did not see it that way lol & thus creating a real civil war within the mandalorians. Maul brainwashed mandalorians into thinking she was the real traitor.
It deadass surprises me how maul doesn’t seem to be an important part in mandalore history knowing he was the reason why mandalorians split up & had to create different clans. Idk why he’s never mentioned nor why Paz vizsla never said anything, especially knowing that last name’s history with Bo & maul.
Idk why he missed that information out because it’s literally the reason why there’re in the state that there’re in.. 🤦🏽♂️
& 3, Bo literally only joined satine & her people because she had no other choice & hated maul.
"Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Dath Plagueis the Wise?"
-Grogu's first words.
Regarding the take on Bo Katan at the end: I think she very obviously has designs to play whatever cards she can to become leader again, but I also believe the true reverence to the old ways actually charms her, as we see when Din first enters the waters. She has the same kind of stunned reaction when she’s welcomed to the Children of the Watch, even if it’s temporary.
The idea that the armorer could’ve been a maul-dalorian actually makes a decent amount of sense. That’d be crazy
What does mauldalorian stand for? Mandalorians that worked for Maul in the Siege of Mandalore?
@@Tmtrnr22 yes
Ok and how do you get the idea that the armorer worked for maul?
@@Tmtrnr22 it’s a tiny detail but her helmet is unique that it has those little horns, which was a common detail amongst Mandos who were under Maul for the brief time he ruled.
You did watch the video right? 😂 it’s SWT’s theory and he explains it in the video
@@Tmtrnr22 But the helmet detail, her very adamant commitment to “The Way” and the fact that she’s in some way a leader in their sect all pair really well with the idea that she was under Maul at one point. Really, we know nothing about her as an individual outside of what we’ve seen her do in the show. I’m not even sure if “The Armorer” is a name that gets used at any point in the show, seems to just be what the fans called her. Just like Baby Yoda was never a name in canon, just a name to the fans.
it’s really well done how Bo Katan seems to be detached from her ancestry and even the castle doesn’t mean much to her until after the Mythosaur is seen. It like reconnects her to the reality of her peoples deep history. And then being converted at the end was a cherry on top.
I think it would nicer if she wasnt such an antagonist and more just really ambitious to lead
Again she didn’t leave Death Watch because she thought Pre Vizsla was crazy, she left because Maul took over.
Right like is theory crazy or sum??🥲🤨
@@Knight2007_ No, he gets a few things wrong now and then. Probably too much on his mind with all the content he makes.
@@mintedcow yeah my bad, I feel like crazy is a really huge overstatement
@@mintedcow he gets lots of things wrong to be honest, i think he just has some bad takes honestly
Yeaa exactly like hearing that got me tight. Bo Katan never left Pre Vizsla or left deathwatch because he “was too crazy”. She was literally by his side & followed his ways & fought side by side. Maul challenged & defeated Pre Vizsla, pre Vizsla and most of his squad allowed maul to kill him because of his honor & code. Bo Katan wasn’t accepting of that (Letting an outsider rule mandalore) so she called everybody else traitors but unfortunately history did not see it that way lol & thus creating a real civil war within the mandalorians. Maul brainwashed mandalorians into thinking she was the real traitor.
It deadass surprises me how maul doesn’t seem to be an important part in mandalore history knowing he was the reason why mandalorians split up & had to create different clans. Idk why he’s never mentioned nor why Paz vizsla never said anything, especially knowing that last name’s history with Bo & maul.
Idk why he missed that information out because it’s literally the reason why there’re in the state that there’re in.. 🤦🏽♂️
& 3, Bo literally only joined satine & her people because she had no other choice & hated maul.
Doesn't Bo-Katan leave Death Watch when Pre Vizsla is decapitated. She obeys Pre Vizsla, and when he is killed, she looks devastated and turns against Maul.
Yah that’s what I thought too. It was more so that she refused to serve a sith rather than a Mandolorian.
Well she actually betrayed her people twice, betraying her sister and even Vizsla accepted that only the strongest should rule Mandalore. Maul in that fight made it as fair as possible even handicapping himself basically. She actually disobeyed Vizsla and caused civil war on Mandalore. That's why she wasn't liked in the beginning of the series when she and her squad who were known as terrorists on Mandalore acted tough infront of Boba who actually had more honor for the code than they ever had. It wouldn't have mattered who it was, a sith, a jedi, she wouldn't accept it because he or she wouldn't be a Mandalorian but that's not what the code stands for. She basically betrayed the tradition of the Mandalorians, not Maul.
Yeah THEORY complete got that wrong
Yep, theory mixed something up here ^^
Exactly
I actually quite liked this episode a lot. I always love seeing the Empire’s transition after the war and all that plays into that. And I actually have a soft spot for Pershing, I feel like he’s not all bad but was more of a pawn. Kinda reminds me of Draco, or Lucious by the end of HP but less evil. It was great seeing the TIE Interceptors as well! Just wish we got a little more of the Mythosaur but I have a feeling we’ll be seeing it again soon enough.
Yeah totally agree, he really doesn't seem inherently evil, just a smart guy kinda led astray in general. Seeing that mind flayer on max power was kinda brutal
@@hidingman3578 Super brutal, especially if you know the EU Mind Flayers and what they’re capable of. And now that I’m thinking of it maybe he’s more of a Grima Wormtongue like character, a good person lead astray from they’re path by an evil antagonist.
It was interesting to watch Bo Katan interact with Mando’s cult
Sect not cult
@@austinbevis4266 it’s a cult lmao
@@alextsvetkov3211 not really they follow the ways of Mandalore just like Canderous Ordo in kotor 2
@@ZK1.0 there are plenty of cults that deny being cults cos they're "following the Bible", but at the end of the day they're still cults. Look at what happened to Din - they took him in as an orphan and indoctrinated him into their cult cos recruiting sensible adults is impossible for them.
I think Bo is just being cautious around mentioning the Mythosaur, I think she made the right move not saying it just yet. She needs to go back there and confirm what she saw, even though she is absolutely sure what she saw and is right. The Mando parts of this episode were super interesting
She looked at it right in the eyes you can't confirm it more than that lol
One thing I’m enjoying about the story so far is that we don’t 100% know Bo’s thoughts/motivations, making it way more fun to try to interpret things. I could see her going either way
Maybe she doubted she would be believed, even by the faithful, and bringing it up would've invited doubt into her testimony regarding Din's baptism.
I think Bo liked being accepted and feeling like a part of the group that isn't just about the Darksaber and rule. Her arc in this episode is kind of reconnecting to the roots; visiting her home, the story of her first time at the Waters and now she bathed again, then her castle got destroyed... All suggests that she needs to abandon her ways and do things differently.
It is a Bo Katan rebirth - the final step in her evolution maybe.
Sure, she spotted the beast and she still wants to rule, but I feel like it's gonna be a new and improved Bo Katan this time given all that's happened in the episode.
*I was more invested in the Amnesty Program* than Mando, Bo and Grogu’s story.
Eh it dragged on too long
Ok cmon stop capping😂
Bo Katan finally a part of a group of Mandalorians again hit right the feels. You could tell she appreciates it in an unexpected way. I think Bo Katan is slowly starting to realise, that the old ways they follow might actually be beneficial
There’s definitely a chance this changes her for good, but I still feel a little wary she might try to manipulate them all into following her
I really appreciate that Mandalorian is able to capture the essence of star wars so well unlike some past projects of Disney
I think it's so well directed. You get a big fight or chase scene in every episode, cool settings and mandalorian interactions. It's so satisfying
Exactly
When it comes to live action shows yes but Star wars animation shows have BEEN capturing the essence of Star Wars
Andor is a better show anyways. The Mandalorian is all spectacle with no substance
@@dancingvalkyrie I disagree, as a massive defender of Andor I constantly argue against people who passionatly and irrationally hate it, however you cannot say Mando is "all spectacle with no substance" when both shows masterfully delved into the SW universe in different ways.
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I was the one that mentioned Thrawn in the Watch Party. What I wanted to say was that the TIE Interceptors are playing a bit too strategically to have a bait to lure Bo-Katan and ambush her with a fleet in the clouds, ready to rapid fire and take her ship down. Not only was that unusually strategic for Imperials, but this strategy of a fleet ambushing in the Clouds has happened once before in Rebels S4 E9, as Hera and her fleet entered Lothal, where they were ambushed by TIE Fighters in the clouds. This is why I believe Thrawn was behind this. It’s not only a strategic maneuver, it’s also something he’s done before.
I just don't think it fits for any potential Thrawn stories. I think its Gideon.
I agree it was definitely a highly skilled strategist organizing the attack. Now the question is which ones-Thrawn or Gideon? Or are they working together?
It felt like such a thrawn foreshadowing to me. It was so unexpected when that surprise element came through. But what is the end goal and why bo katans castles and trying to lure her out to her Doom
Ultimate neek
I think her witnessing the mythosaur, shook her beliefs. She stated her original ceremony was 'for show', it wasn't serious to her. Now seeing the creature changes her perspective. Her demeanor afterwards and after the the castles destruction, is more reserved as tho She is reconsidering her entire way of life. Also the way she moved with the darksaber vs djinn, it was effortless for her while still heavy for djinn
Regarding the closing scene, I thought it was great. I loved that moment. While it makes sense that she's making calculated decisions regarding her ambitions, I really feel like she was kind of touched and caught off guard with how she was welcomed by those she had previously claimed to oppose. Thats what made the scene special imo. Despite the fact that her face was under a helmet, you could feel that it really meant something to her. Great acting and writing with brilliant subtlety!
At the end I felt more that Bo Khatan was surprised and pleased to be welcomed in such a community, hard to tell with her helmet on, but she felt very lonely and depressed at the beginning of the season, so maybe she would enjoy this potential life with Din's community and it could create a conflict inside of her, if her wanting to live by her own creed goes against the Children of the Watch beliefs, and if defeating the mythosaur doesn't align with the idea of living as bounty hunters in this community even if they were welcoming to her. Or maybe she will be honest and try to rally everyone and ask advice from the armorer on how to beat the beast
Well she seemingly had no one and was just tied down to her castle, but now the castle is on.
They aren't all bounty hunters. Only Din has been confirmed to have been one.
@@adventwolfbane Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, but then what do they do in their life, except for enrolling kids?
Well, she did keep the mythosaur a secret...
"Yes I did bathe in the Living Waters; however, also swallowed about a gallon of it..."
The stuff with Pershing had a lot of Andor vibes. the whole time I was tensed up because his "new life" looked VERY similar to Syril Karn's from Andor (that office the new Republic had Pershing working in looked a lot like the Bureau of Standards, and the apartment complex reminded me of Syril's apartment.) And not-so-subtle hints were placed everywhere that showed the New Republic isn't quite so "free" and "just" as it would have you believe. From the strict schedules the Amnesty Program members have to follow tom security droids EVERYWHERE telling people "tickets please" and "do not touch" to finally the reveal that the New Republic have a "repurposed" Imperial lobotomy machine that doesn't even have any safety mechanisms to prevent it from being turned up to full power (seriously, why did the machine HAVE that dial? Super red-flag-y.) It shows that the New Republic is making the exact same mistakes the Old Republic did that allowed for Palpatine to manipulate everything in his favour to form the Empire.
Both sides are flawed in their own ways, no side is the “right” one. Sometimes the new system is no different than the old one, even if they claim to be the good guys.
@@rico_fed Indeed. While the Empire was overtly cruel and authoritarian, there were still individuals living under it who are more complex and not "evil," as seen with both Syril Karn from Andor and Persher in this show. But both the old and new Republic, while founded on grounds of good intention, are corrupted by bureaucracy, economic inequality and thinly veiled prejudice. We see the New Republic deals with "the past" the same way the Empire did with regards to technology. In Andor we saw Clone Wars era Venator class Star Destroyers (which many have pointed out are much more efficient in design to Imperial class ships) being dismantled on Ferrix, and here we see all Imperial tech (except for the lobotomy machine which is SUPER suspicious) likewise being dismantled instead of salvaged and repurposed.
Side note...I love how this character is named "Pen Persher"... Get it? "Pen Pusher"? Because he's a bookworm scientist?
@@AceSpadeThePikachu His name is nothing new. Qui-Gon Jinn esencially means a wise mentor from lower ranks who died quite fast.
@@LukiKruki Oh I know Star Wars is no stranger to punny names. Porkins, Selatious Crum, Elan Sleezbaggino, Sha'a Gi...
Count Dooku referencing both "Doku" (the Japanese word for poison) and Count Dracula (whom Christopher Lee famously played back in the day,) and the happy accident that was "Vader" roughly translating to "Father" in Dutch.
Hadn't heard about the Qui Gon one though. Most puns I hear from his name are about the hard drink "Gin."
And then of course there's Obi Wan's home planet, "Stu Jon."
@@LukiKruki Wait what??? this is new to me, I never heard about Qui-Gon Jinn's name having a meaning
The scenes where Dr Pershing is talking to the robot gave me Ad Astra vibes where Bradd Pitt had to keep reporting in to talk to a robot about his feelings.
As Bo witnessed the Mythosaur, a Mandalorian who seems to lose the Dark Saber every five minutes, and some naive cultists, I can't help but think ... just 'smile and wave, boys, smile and wave.' Despite everything she had crumbling around her, Bo maintains her cool and navigates the situation until all the pieces fall into place and the truth is revealed
Personally, I feel like time with Din affected Bo a lot, as well as seeing Mythosaur, it's possible that this season we'll see a transformation in Bo, and I sincerely hope so. As for the fact that Bo didn't tell Din that she saw the Mythosaur, I don't think she really knows if what she saw is real or just a delusion, hence the questions to Din, did he see anything or is there something alive down there, a bit like you're the only one seeing something that shouldn't exist, you don't know if you saw it for real or maybe your brain is playing tricks on you and the more you think about it the more you're not sure which is the truth. It seems to me that Bo herself doesn't know what to think about all of this.
One thing I’m enjoying about the story so far is that we don’t 100% know Bo’s thoughts/motivations, making it way more fun to try to interpret things
Yeah I think as an audience we’re suppose to worry about her plotting taking over but really she’s buying into the way and she really wasn’t sure she saw it but will later confess it to mando
Bo def knows what she saw and now that she has lost the saber and her followers she will try and tame the mythosaur to try and rule again
It’s in her bloodline , She’s a princess
Her life has no meaning to her if she isn’t a leader.
As for THE MANDALORIAN I believe Bo respects Din’s “childish” views and ways and also sees it as exactly what’s needed to have mandalore rise again since the planet is actually habitable. She understands Din’s views are needed for what it takes to reinstate mandalore and so that’s how Din is now key in Bo’s plan to take what’s rightfully hers so she will work and play along by his side so she can eventually retake The throne.
I see it as a Avatar 1 kinda thing where jake sully is an outsider to the Navi but since he takes the orange bird lol, he becomes toruk makto and because of the Navis ancient ways and beliefs they now seem him as their leader. Bo will try to be their toruk makto.
Remember when she thought Din had shown up once again at her home she said “let’s get rid of him once and for all”
She is not changing her views thanks to spending time with Din. She only understands he’s key to her being able to rule “something” again.
However, she’s not THE MANDALORIAN whose legend will be told to foundlings for generations to come. Din Djarin is. Even tho Bo will try and tame mythosaur, din will end up doing it himself with help of Grogu. At the end the mandalorian will become the first of the new rise of the creed in mandalore having tamed mythosaur, wielding darksaber and by having Grogu under his wing that’s how mandalorians will once again work alongside force wielders as they once did. Since they know they can trust him. Din will be the one to bring mandalore back and Grogu will bring back the Jedi order. They’re equals in many ways.
@@ArValeska if that's the way it plays out, it's going to be really boring. I mean, if any one of us random fans can predict exactly how the season will play out, then it's not good writing. Which, this season has had plenty of bad writing, so maybe you're right.
Also, if we are to buy into your Avatar analogy, Jake Sully initially infiltrates the Navi for the humans, but eventually has a change of heart & joins the Navi. But you're claiming Bo-Katan is being deceitful & won't actually join the covert, so I don't really see the connection.
@@ArValeska This is certainly a possibility. Here’s an unlikely but crazy idea too: What if Bo and Din are knocked out by the mythosaur and Grogu single-handedly tames the beast? Would that make Grogu Mandalore and would Bo and Din become his guardian-advisors in that case?
This episode was so good!!! Seeing Coruscant again was so cool. Poor Dr. Pershing. Also this season just makes me love Bo more and more ❤
I love that cake
They definitely setting up Heir to The Empire storyline, it's all lining up perfectly.
Hope you're right
@cyberpup2246 the audience dropping because of sequel connections is sweet news, for that's all the mouse really cares. So if there's anything we can really do to help, is not watching anymore.
It won’t be exact but 100% Thrawn as big bad and the resurrection of the empire or “first order” (hate that name).. remember Thrawn is doing it all for a bigger cause though, the protection of the Chiss, wouldn’t be surprised if he’s Palpatines number 1 hand
@cyberpup2246 I'd like to see that too, but if it all lead to the events of the sequels, what's the point? If we only could find a clue setting a different path, like some think about Ezra saving Ashoka, but I'm not so sure and still pretty worried.
@CyberPup 22 you do realize that Heir to the Empire storyline will be explored during The Mandalorian Season 3 and Ahsoka right?
But I get it
I think Dave and John are foreshadowing Thrawn because of the line that Bo Karan said, “That’s a lot of Tie’s for an Imperial War Lord”. I think they’re Thrawns ships and everything leads up to it. I think he knows that Mando needed to go to Mandalore to be redeemed so they waited for him. Classic Thrawn with knowing the religion/practices of his enemies. Strategical genius when he used the interceptors to draw out Mando and Bo while the bombers came in and destroyed the castle. We also never saw his destroyer
And Thrawn is interested in Din why? The attack was most likely aimed at Bo-Katan cos she attacks Imps so often.
@@DS9TREK but Thrawn isn’t one to hold a grudge or attack so recklessly. I do think Thrawn was in some way involved for sure, but I don’t think we have an idea of the motive yet, I am confident that he wouldn’t just randomly attack Bo seemingly out of the blue though, even if he has reason to want her gone.
@@DS9TREK maybe because he freed moff Gideon and they’re after grogu again? Not too sure but the best option would be because Gideon is working with Thrawn
I think the use of codes instead of names is established so the former Imps' identity is protected from vigilantism, blackmail or the sort, also makes them harder to find, one could imagine how many of these guys were responsible for a lot of deaths which also means they would have a lot of vengeful enemies after the war.
Honestly I think Bo is just happy to belong somewhere and have a purpose once again
Hehe 🎉🎉
@Last Renegade Glorius purpose?
This is my hope too. I like the idea of an arc where she believes in the Old Ways of Mandalore again and is no longer a doubting Thomas. Episode name The Convert I hope has a double meaning Pershing and Bo
same. she is just glad to have something to believe in
She's there because now she can show them the mythosaur and make them realise their creed is this strict for nothing.
It felt really heart warming to see the mandalorians embrace the pair of apostates. You could tell there was alot of emotion under bo katans helmet almost as if you can see her expression right through
Bo was not an apostate as she had never been a part of the Children of the Watch, and she followed a different Mandalorian creed (of which there are many).
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 hey trooper do you know where ct 7567 is captain rex
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 Paz Vizla regarded both of them as apostates when they was met outside the cave. True she wasn't part of the children of the watch but according to their beliefs "your house has fallen from the way, you are both apostates" so though she was in a different creed they considered her an apostate to the way
@Sergeant Hunter First off, sergeant, I'm a commander, not a trooper. Secondly, the good captain is probably on some backwater world trying not to lose his mind over one of General Skywalker's ludicrous plans, I'll have to ask him next time my men from the 88th and Rex's 501st are both back for shore leave on Triple Zero.
@Rattlyn Animations The Children of the Watch are a cult and almost certainly believe that any Mando'ade that doesn't follow their creed is an apostate, even if that Mando'ade is more Mandalorian than they are.
Loved this episode. Getting to see post-ep6 world building was amazing. It also felt a bit like Andor and The Expanse.
where did you watch it brother?
Interesting to see a completetly different opinion. The reason I disliked this episode was that it indeed felt like Andor. I loved Andor, but the Mando show should not be about societies. They shouldn't steer away THAT much from first 2 seasons.
@@FROST-ui5fr but... who cares about his side of the story, there are countless of characters like him. I just really hope this side story was actually a bridge to main plot of S3 (which we dont know yet, he bathed in the Waters, what now lol).
@@yaqbec23 I can see your criticism. But I believe this episode is very important. Jon and Dave wouldn't have created a pointless episode of this scale. I just hope they don't try and tie it into the sequels too much, since with all this cloning stuff, i feel like it's heading that way.
@@GreenFalcon926 yea it would be pretty boring if they use all this suspense and mystery just to climax with the "somehow palpatine returned" moment in ep 9 lol.
It's been a while since I have visited your channel. I was a big fan back during the days before you jumped in front of the camera. Once that happened I started to feel the channel became more about you, which for the record is totally fine. It's your channel. You built it up. It was always about your love of star wars. It makes sense to make that progression. So not hating, not at all. You're a good dude who deserves all the success. I just wanted a little more of the way it was. Anyway.
Great breakdown. Super happy I came back for a visit
I honestly am confused on how Kane even lived. I mean, I always thought she was shot down when Cara, Fennac, Bo, and Koosha stormed the bridge.
"No one's ever really gone." -Disney _Star Wars_
First rule of Star Wars: no body, no death.
Somehow Kane returned ….
I think you are wrong about Bo. She is a defeated person who gave up on the throne. She wanted Din gone before she had to save him. Seeing the Mythosaur shook her to her chore. She is like han solo. He thought the force was a bunch of mystic mumbo jumbo. She is now starting to believe in their legends. Din is still the Mandalorian chosen one. Bo will help him reunite the Mandalorians.
Wonder why she wouldn't tell him she saw it tho? It's like the whole basis of their religion
Na i think she saw the mythosaur as an opportunity to finally Unite all factions of the Mandalorians under her rule. Her time with the children of the watch would help her get into the good graces of them.
@@ayushman3359 in rebels it looked like she was ok finding a successor because she failed already. After failing yet again i think shed rather groom din to be the next leader.
@@mathewkamioka465 then why was she mad af on din after the whole darksaber issue. She was willing to get rid of him in the last eps. remember. Also, why didn't she mention anything about the great mythosaur to din. Seems to me like she just got another way to rule the people when she saw the beast and is now biting time till she rides it.
@Mathew Kamioka, yep, you get it. She was having a “crisis of faith” she is having a hard time believing she even saw the mythasaur, I believe she asked Din because she was wondering if she imagined it. You see as she visits the living waters and Din and her discuss her father she starts to become melancholic. The idea that she wants to rule Mandalore above all else is inconsistent with her character arc from Clone Wars, and Rebels.
she left because Maul killed Vizla and he took over and she rejected his rule. she eventually started to see the error of her previous ways and how her sister was right leading to an alliance with the Jedi and Ahsoka. Also bo isn't going to be an antagonist she is up to something but that doesn't mean she's an antagonist I believe she wants Dinn to join her and help unite their people not be a vicious war lord
I think that Bo-Katan was just unsure of what she saw! I don't think she's purposefully hiding it, she just doesn't want to seem crazy!
I agree. I thought that she didn't tell Din or anyone about it because she didn't want someone to think that she has lost her mind. The Mythosaurs are supposed to be extinct.
I really hope that's the case.
I agree. I think she still can’t be fully trusted as of now but she is slowly developing into something better.
I kind of want to believe this, but part of me is also suspicious that she could be manipulating everyone. One thing I’m enjoying about the story so far is that we don’t 100% know Bo’s thoughts/motivations, making it way more fun to try to interpret things
Also, just because she saw one, just because she may believe it really was there, she might not have the hubris to believe she could actually tame it.
I think Bo is genuinely considering following the watch because she saw the mythosaur which was just supposed to be a legend so maybe the children of the watch and their “crazy ideas” aren’t so crazy after all and she seemed to start respecting mando’s beliefs more.
I love the attention to detail in this show. You can even see the chunk of Pershing’s ear that’s missing from when Cara shot the imperial pilot
This episode sucked ass
Literally just ended the episode and this is perfect timing your the best
This episode was amazing. Seriously loved it.
So much bad said about this episode, but I loved it too. Wonderful world building and really well done that it was book marked by bo and mando
@@meetsintaverns5330 I think it complimented Andor really well too, interesting to see what’s changed since then, but also what is the same
it was insanely boring,nobody watches star wars for the political stuff
@@greirattm4900 Star "Wars", last time I checked- Wars come with politics unfortunately. Wake up to reality.
@@greirattm4900 I don't know If I would say that the political stuff is boring, it's just that they set up a major cliffhanger last episode and didn't deliver with this one. Especially since the Pershing stuff is just to justify the sequels. If they were spaced out between multiple episodes or had just been condensed it would have been a lot better.
I loved seeing Coruscant it is so beautiful, imagine the peak of Mt Everest being a tourist attraction in some future megacity
What’s interesting about the scene at the carnival on Coruscant that I think most people missed is that March of the Resistance from The Force Awakens is playing in the background the whole time
"It's a trap" had me laughing uncontrollably
I enjoyed the episode. Set up for an amazing next episode in my opinion.
Personally I'm a bit tired of the Empire stuff. It's like Star Trek and the Borg. When they run out of story ideas...It's the Borg! The Empire is becoming that for Star Wars.
@Moabman there's so many intricatecies inside the empire. I like the deep dive to see all the cogs and how they work. It was a bit much in this episode but I know it will be important in future episodes!
@Cdubs Ya I mean I think that can be cool. But if they're going to do that then do it before episode 6. If your going to show the Empire I want the emperor and Vader. After episode 6 it kind seems pointless
@Moabman that's true. Still cool to see the transition I guess! And how the empire was still holding on. I found it interesting! Should be more Mando in upcoming episodes hopefully!
@@moabman6803 I respectfully disagree. The Thrawn storyline that took place after Ep 6 was some of the best Star Wars ever. And this show is setting that up perfectly, even if not an exact replica (for obvious reasons that would be impossible)
Can't wait for the Bad Batch breakdown
Was the new episode good?
@@blazeroosterYT I thought it was fun, very different and the animation was incredible
There was an earthquake, and that's it - doesn't require a breakdown
@@blazeroosterYT eh
Bo never left cause she thought Pre Viszla was crazy. She literally supported him and was die hard for Deathwatch. She left cause Maul won in combat, and saw him as an outsider. You can go back to the episode where they had their duel and see how she was devastated when Viszla was defeated. That’s when she separated with her Nite owls and wanted to do everything possible to take Maul down. Which included helping her sister 15:40
Yeaa exactly like hearing that got me tight. Bo Katan never left Pre Vizsla or left deathwatch because he “was too crazy”. She was literally by his side & followed his ways & fought side by side. Maul challenged & defeated Pre Vizsla, pre Vizsla and most of his squad allowed maul to kill him because of his honor & code. Bo Katan wasn’t accepting of that (Letting an outsider rule mandalore) so she called everybody else traitors but unfortunately history did not see it that way lol & thus creating a real civil war within the mandalorians. Maul brainwashed mandalorians into thinking she was the real traitor.
It deadass surprises me how maul doesn’t seem to be an important part in mandalore history knowing he was the reason why mandalorians split up & had to create different clans. Idk why he’s never mentioned nor why Paz vizsla never said anything, especially knowing that last name’s history with Bo & maul.
Idk why he missed that information out because it’s literally the reason why there’re in the state that there’re in.. 🤦🏽♂️
& 3, Bo literally only joined satine & her people because she had no other choice & hated maul.
Bro SWT doesn’t know what he is talking about half the time
Thought I was trippin for a bit but then I remembered how devastated she was when she saw maul kill viszla. Surprised theory left that in the vid
Wow that girl doing the poor doctor like that was some sick shit !! She was loving every minute of the trip her and Doc went on !! Can't wait to see her motives , the new republic looked pretty scary as well ! What an episode !!
Yea that was cold eating that biscuit. She must've been done wrong by the scientist and wants revenge
Fun fact: that square with the mountain is actually where Satine met up with Obi wan when she was framed for murder. They sat on the circular bit around the peak
The first 10 minutes once again had BEAUTIFUL cinematography--same with the moving shots of Coruscant.
That snippet of "Palpatine's teachings" feels like 100% Dave Filoni reminding Favreau and Ludwig Göransson (composer of the show) about how it's important to reference this all leads to palpatine and snoke, and that for better or (definitely 😅) worse, to ep 9.
Yeah, I’m worried more now….
I think Bo was stunned at how together the children of the watch were compared to her fation.
I really doubt Bo is going to break bad. She saw the mythosaur which made her second guess her beliefs that it's all just superstition. She gets accepted into the watch, and mind you now she is homeless, so I think she's going to work with them.
Idk what to tell people who didn't like the Pershing story. I hate to question someone's fandom but this is like literally what legends was - filling in the gaps and answering the questions that people wonder about.
And even if you need all pew pew, the episode starts with an unbelievably epic dogfight. 8/10 for me on this one.
Bro that shi was long and dragged on. Ion wanna watch people do their desk job and eat ice cream
A cool little detail, the lady officer when they were fleeing the skip actually called file with her hand ( this is a military hand sign formation, which means get one behind the other)
Brilliant episode! I really hope you are right about Plagueis and I also hope it does not lead straight into the sequels!
Andor writers went crazy with this one 😂😂 All jokes aside I liked the episode other than the courescant stuff dragging on for like 10 mins too many and 10 Mins too little of mando. Excited to see where this goes though I think the imperial officer lady is still working for the empire, and she knows the Empire/Gideon needs the cloning equipment, so she used him to get it, and then framed him
I figured she has either an agenda to someone else or she is dead set of flaying her past away making up for what she did, but Dr. Pershing though I didn’t trust him it was a jaw dropping moment too see her do that too him, made me feel bad for him
The whole train scene was pointless. Just buy tickets ? And the thrill was not really believable and super slow paced
@@ShayanGivehchian they were not allowed to leave the area they were housed and work in. If they tried to buy a ticket, theh would have been flagged and caught
@@ShayanGivehchian they wouldn’t be able to buy tickets, they aren’t even allowed to walk out of a certain perimeter.
Mandor
That scene with Mando just falling into the pool was supposed to be terrifying but it was really hilarious to me(I don’t know if that was intentional or not). He just drops like a rock 😂. Also thanks for the breakdown Theory. 👍🏼
Same, I laughed
i laughed, too
I think we're used to Mando being both badass and clumsy at the same time by now that's why 😂
My brother was like “ he didn’t know there wasn’t another step” 😂
I'm pretty sure she thinks this will help her take charge later on, but I definitely also think that she now understands how important having everyone stand behind a single culture can help unify Mandalorians in the first place.
Great vid SWT. I felt bad for Pershing when he realized he was set up. It was really cool to see Coruscant post-Empire, I kept scanning the skylne for the Jedi Temple, couldn't find though.
anyone notice how her name sounds like a - lier ?? If that's not a hint idk what is
My sense is that Bo may well be weighing her future options, given her secret knowledge of the mythosaur and her sudden inclusion in a new faction she has previously mocked, but I do NOT think she is all cynical calculation and ridicule in her head at this point. The acting since the sighting of the mythosaur, and even at the moment of Bo’s sudden, full acceptance into a new group, suggests to me that she is reeling from these new events, sifting through her former feelings and possibly rethinking them.
Although I may not understand it immediately, or at all over time, I always have to remember that everything is intentional. Every little detail is important in some way, to the story
love the plagueis/snoke theme in this episode. was so chilling. feel like no one else is talking about that.
I know the middle part may have felt sort of slow to some but I loved this episode! Even the middle! It showed us even more of Coruscant, I also still love the parallels between Mando and Bad Batch. Mando is really now showing the transition from Empire to New Republic in a way we haven’t explored and I think it’s intriguing to see ways in which corruption is obviously already a problem in the new Republic and show how once again the republic is just like the empire in being willing to unethically do things to erase the past regime.
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Didn’t Bo Katan and the nite owls dip because Pre Vizla was killed by maul? Or have they gone and changed the lore again
They dipped because they didn't see Maul as worthy of the saber or of being the leader of the planet regardless of him winning the saber.
anyone else noticed when din bo and grogu were on the bo's ship and they sayed "this is the way" and grogu tries to say it too i only heard the last sentence of his saying " Way"
I KNOWWWWWW
Good to see coruscsnt again in live action
If memory suits me right Bo Katan didn’t leave Pre Vizsla’s Death Watch. She left when Darth Maul beheaded Pre Vizsla stating “Mandalore will never be ruled by an outsider!” Despite their way being that ‘the strongest shall rule’. Bo Katan is a major hypocrite.
It was another great episode. I found it very nice that all the Mandalorians were there and welcomed back Din and Bo like that.