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The Mandalorian Season 3 REVIEW - REAL TALK
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2023
- Here is my review of The Mandalorian Season 3
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Can't believe there wasn't any mention of Paz's sacrifice either in the last episode. Especially after they built the respect and trust between Paz and Din earlier in the season when they saved Ragnar. Who also finally got his ceremony uninterrupted at the end, but without his father. Disgraceful they completely glossed over that
I would have much rather seen a memorial for Paz and the other fallen Mandalorians who died trying to retake the planet rather than Ragnar getting baptized again.
I almost feel like KK came in and demanded Favreau’s character be killed before the end of the season
@@RandomVideo997 this is very possible lol.
He is a white male, doesnt fit the disney agenda.
You actually want a funeral scene? Really? We need to see that for a cool side character?
Biggest issue was Grogu going back to mando in BOBF. Completely changed the trajectory of season 3 imo
I know John said it was his idea, but this decision stinks of studio interference.
It added nothing to Boba Fett and took away what could have been an interesting story line of Mando trying to survive without Grogu. Instead we got the R2D2 same day delivery because we gotta sell those Grogu plushies
@@mortagon1451 i thought he said KK demanded he have Grogu in BOBF
Groku in BOBF.
Gina Carano firing.
Two+ year hiatus with nothing but absolute garbage SW content in between.
@@rector0455 don't forget whiney fans.
Gideon’s reaction of clones still kills me, Mf was watching a UAV and still acted surprised
“My clones!” 😭😂😂
"YOU DESTROYED MY CLONES WHILE I KNEW YOU WERE COMING HERE!!!!"
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
I'm convinced that Grogu was originally never meant to be in this season. Or if he was it was only going to be small appearances of him training with Luke. The ending of S2 was a massive change up in the story and for that to be undone BEFORE S3 even came out makes me wonder why. Why did we have what was essentially the first couple episodes of Mando in Book of Boba? Why did they chose to bring Grogu back so quickly? I have my guess as im sure many of us do. If you think about it. This season without Grogu would have made so much more sense and the aimless nature of it may have been excusable. It could have been played up as Din being aimless without Grogu around. The tone of the season would have felt justified but with Grogu in it, it feels aimless without good reason. Overall I'm pretty disappointed with the season. 2 years of a wait just to get this is not the way. At least Andor was amazing otherwise star wars would feel very dead to me again.
My theory is that was meant to be what happened, then Disney said “bring him back immediately, we need him for marketing” so it was all undone/changed
They only wanted him back to profit
This is not the way.
Andor isn’t true Star Wars
@@decepticonstinger3150 L take
Without a DOUBT there should have been 1 whole episode dedicated to Mando being captured. His interrogation, more Empire stuff, and the episode ending with a group coming back for him. They make him get captured for literally no reason lol. AND here we are with 3 complete seasons and no information about the Armorer. One of my favorite characters who plays a huge role in Mandos story. We don't know ANYTHING about this character still.
I wish they would take more risks and be bold with this show. Like if Din being interrogated led Gideon to attempt the mind wipe on him (for reasons), and Mando is saved right after the machine turns on but he was still affected to a lesser degree, and then use this as a way that he is cleansed from the dogma of his religion. Instead, they undid all of that character development they spent 2 years building and tied him even deeper into the cult like mentality.
I wish they did one episode of Order 66. The 24 hour perspective of Grogu surviving.
She's Din Grogu's Grandma
@@gregorypaul7898 yea what was even the point of that flashback.... honestly. Kind of a huge waste.
We needed a lot more of Mandalorian character development
You know I’m kinda pissed that the Darksaber was destroyed like that. Its survived the entire clone wars, the Empire and Vaders reign, been wielded by Maul and fought against Darth Sidious himself and "Moff Gideon" is the one that destroys it in such a simple way too. I feel some type of way.😭
I don't mind that, it's subverting expectations and means the Mandalorians now have to chose their leaders on merit instead of some weapon.
I agree. On the other hand, in Disney's version of SW, Rey rebuilt Luke's lightsaber and even "healed" the broken kyber crystal (wow, she can do anything! 🙄). So...don't rule out the return of the Darksaber. Maybe Grogu heals it. Idk.
You'll get over it.
@@Gage_Brumley subverting expectations is not always good just kinda feels like it was literally just to subvert expectations nothing more to its is what it is tho.
@@jpcoqueran Yeah like like a lot of these fanboys, you’ll forget it and they’ll jangle more keys in front of you and you will love it! Even though the story is incredibly mid 😂
I absolutely agree that it was a mistake to bring Grogu back in TBOBF. I‘ve thought about an alternate way this season could have played out with the two being separated while still adhering to the broad story:
Chapter 1: The Mines of Mandalore. More or less the Plot of Chapter 2 but without Grogu and R5. Also including the opening of Chapter 3.
Chapter 2: The tribe. Din and Bo arrive at the base of Din‘s Mando tribe. They help to defeat the big turtle. Then we get most of Chapter 4‘s plot (minus everything Grogu). At the end Bo gets accepted into the tribe and Mando and Bo leave to find Bo‘s Mando-gang to reclaim Mandalore.
Chapter 3: Guns for Hire. They find them and help them with some sort of mission and get them to join their cause. At the end we get the reveal that Gideon escaped.
Chapter 4: Return to Mandalore. This one is very similar to Chapter 7. Only difference is that their fleet is a bit smaller, Din does not get captured and after Paz sacrifices himself, the Mandos escape and basically get overpowered.
Chapter 5: Uniting the Clans. Through connections some Mandos have, they search for other clans, tell them about the lies the empire spread and about Gideon‘s presence on Mandalore. At the end, most follow them.
Chapter 6: The Plan. All the clans come together to reclaim Mandalore. They split into groups to sort of sneak into the base through different entries. Din goes with the Mando-survivors they found on Mandalore. They turn out to work for Gideon and Din gets captured but he manages to send a signal. Then we see a comlink beeping and Grogu‘s shadow.
Chapter 7: Jedi Lessons. We basically get the training episode from TBOBF, albeit it has more jumps in time, so we can better see Grogu‘s progress. In between we also get the flashback from Grogu getting rescued from Order 66. At the end we again see the comlink beeping and Grogu wanting to help Din.
Chapter 8: The Battle for Mandalore. Din gets escorted by a dozen troopers. Suddenly one gets sliced in half by a green lightsaber. A second later, another one gets attacked by a second green lightsaber. Luke and Grogu free Din. They get reunited. At some point at least some of the clones get freed and Luke can fight them. Since we have more Mandos now, we will get a bigger space battle and at last Gideon gets defeated. Din and Grogu have a hard time saying goodbye. Luke mentions that Grogu‘s basic training is over. Mando and Grogu stay together. Same ending as in the real Chapter 8…. but then we cut to an imperial Star Destroyer. Captain Pellaeon steps onto the bridge. “Grand Admiral, we just received Information that Moff Gideons efforts to hold Mandalore have failed. He died.“ The camera shows Thrawns back and we hear him speak: “His obsession with the Mandalorians was his downfall. He never understood when to let go. He never understood to see the bigger picture….“ The camera zooms toward his back, Thrawns theme intensifies and the screen turns to black. “Thrawn will return“
Wow, I spent way too much time on this.
I enjoyed reading that more than watching this last season
Having Luke come and save the day again wouldn't have been the best thing imo
This is 🔥🔥
@@ale14zoppi it’s because of the force sensitive clones. And the threat they represent. Plus Luke wasn’t taking the spot light. He was there to only help and take on the clones. Even one clone can harm non force users. Which is why the guy added Luke. Plus Luke is already part of this story. It’s not really out of place for him.
I think the 2 Mando episodes in Book of Boba diluted the Mando series and they wasted a great opportunity to have a climatic ending in season 3. If Season 3 started with those 2 Mando episodes, and Grogu actually choose to train with Luke, that could of been the basis of season 3 where we go between the 2 stories of Grogu's training and the Mandalore story, with Grogu turning up in the last episode to rescue Din, similar to the decision Luke had to make at the end of Empire where he chooses friends over his training. Now that would have been an epic season 3.
this would have been very interesting indeed
John came out and said he wanted to extend the season but Disney wanted him to get it out. He ideally wanted 10 to 12 episodes it's a eye opening interview.
Which interview
^
Either it’s a recent interview or it’s a non existent review that he heard about reported in a Mike Zeroh video
Why though...? Half the season was poorly planned filler.
@@ArnoldSquashaNigga hahahahahahah
I think Favreau recently said that he’s writing seasons 4 and up. The only good thing that I can see for this ending is that it allows for a Timeskip; I can see 5-10 years passing. One thing that the ending really missed was the conclusion between Din, Bo, and Grogu. Like they just leave and they don’t say anything to each other even after everything they went through. Bo Katan never thanked Din for staying with her and never abandoning her even though everyone else had left her at that point. it really showed how loyal he is and how much respect he has for her. Din should have told Bo that he was going to go out into the galaxy and destroy the rest of the Imperial Remnants so that Mandalore could be safe. Bo could’ve offered to join him but Din tells her that her role is to be on Mandalore, guiding their people as Duchess. That would’ve been much better than the final Rebel Pilot bar scene imo. She could’ve possibly even given Grogu the Kyber Crystal from the Darksaber, so that he could at some point build his own lightsaber!
hopefully Din and Bo meet up again in the future and their relationship is further explored whether it be platonically or even Romantically. I mean you can’t see the end scene with Grogu saving the two of them as not being a total Mando family moment.
Totally agree with you 💪🏼
Baller ending...they should have called you first😂. This would have been wayyyy better.
Until I read this, I had completely forgotten that Mando wasn't there at the forge ceremony and there was no 'farewell' or parting scene. Just wasn't at all addressed in any way. And why WOULDN'T Mando settle on Mandalore when they're in and out of their adventures? Why back to Navarro? That's not much of an adventure to go sit in a cabin.
Maybe not a huge timeskip like that i would rather be at least 1 year but love that idea.
The whole season stank of Executive Meddling to me.
The entire scene where Moff Gideon was like "I'll handle this myself" and walks towards the door when the camera was rolling and then makes a U-turn off camera made me laugh so hard. When Din was trying to sabotage the clones, I was sure Gideon would show up in some kind of sneak attack. Instead we get a successful sabotage after a clone opens their eyes and Gideon waiting on a platform that makes it seem like he was plotting an escape. Turns out he is sad that Din just blew up his precious clones even though he could have maybe walked the correct way to get to Din before he made it to the room in the first place. Like how stupid is this version of Gideon? He better be a clone or I'd have to say that was some of the poorest script writing for an antagonist I've seen in a while. Probably tied with Palps somehow coming back to life.
I had the same thoughts. Made no sense to me really
Yes, I was expecting Gideon to set a trap since he was following him on the sensors. Then when we acted all surprised I was like "Dude you knew where he was going! Idiot!" Very weak episode. The series ended for me on the previous episode.
As he cloned himself he put a piece of his very own mind into every clone, so he just has no brains left...
@@mitch4672 lol!
its a star wars TV show... A TV SHOW with only 8 episodes and 35 mins per or less.... you need to cut them some slack or start complaining about the real issue. These episodes need more running time and we need more episodes something more like 12-16 and less time between seasons if we want a quality product thats deep and makes sense.
I really feel mando season 1 excelled so well because of how intimate that project was. It really felt that the creators of the show had a really good aesthetic in visuals and story telling and was a really good tv show with just cool quirky adventures such as the ep where they broke into the prisoner ship which i think is the coolest ep as all the characters were just very well played and felt like real original characters. It was great how it brought star wars back to a higher level and brought all of this new attention to it. However from this it just became a pure cash grab. Like i feel they must of added a bunch more people that just screwed with all the ideas and really i feel completely changed the original direction for the show. Like they really have just tried to make it as much lore based as possible. they have just jammed a bunch of elements of star wars into one. Like jedis, cloning, cloning with the force, order 66, darksaber, complex mandalorian lore that seems to be ever changing rapidly and is now kinda hard to fully keep track on, , zev, thrawn like its all getting a bit too much. like the inspo for he show was like a western movie and season 1 felt like that, it had its own story in the star wars universe. now its just like a fan fiction series that is now kinda dumb and cringey with only a few parts that feel somewhat close to the first season.
I would add that season 2 (while being kinda too cameo-filled) was still pretty much a great adventure of the week type of show, with each episode being very entertaining and different from the others. 3rd season became much more serialized and the writing got significantly worst (if my entire family and not just me is calling out the dumb stuff constantly, something definitely changed)
@@Gabi-ub8md they got too carried away and thought cameos were good
@@KingShibe yeah, but imo the cameos were actually handled very well, since each returning character was treated as a new character. For example, you didn't need to watch The Clone Wars and Rebels to understand who Bo-katan was, she was presented as a new character that worked perfectly for the story and the development of Mando. But this great type of treatment got absolutely lost with TBOBF, where you had to watch The Clone Wars, The Bad Batch and know about some unfinished never-made episode of TCW to barely get any idea of why a showdown between Cad Bane and Boba Fett would be cool. Mandalorian S3 didn't have the cameo problem at least, but failed in many other aspects that S2 didn't.
This season was a roller coaster of “what is even happening??”
"OH, Look A Wild Jack Black Pretending He's Not Playing Jack Black in Empire Cloths! So, wild, So Whacky WOWOWOWOWOW!"
Agree. Felt like they simply made this season to make $$. Nothing really that interesting going on. Grogu and the cameos of famous people felt like they turning star wars into just corporate stuff. It kinda sucks. I’m hear for Star Wars not cute baby yoda and his friend Din
“When are they going to get to the firework factory 😠😩😭”
@@lordvader_0668 Imagine paying Lizzo and Jack black millions to do aa 6 minute cameo that ruins the entire vibe of the entire series. Also, Lizzo released porn (Nudes) the day after the Episode aired. What a great CASDTING!!!!!
@@refugeehugsforfree4151 thank you Disney
When this season ended I was like that’s it? Nothing happened?!?
Exactly 😂
Agreed! It was kinda underwhelming ending. Idk if the real gus fring is dead. 🫠
@@jebsonloteyro6741 He might still be alive but he’s waaay overstayed his welcome. I’d rather be done with it
Yup, nothing happened.
Forget about the Mandalorians finally reuniting and reclaiming their home world. Which has been a regular topic since season 1, multiple episodes of The Clone Wars, Rebels.
We got a great setup for Thrawn in Ahsoka, a Zeb teaser, we finally saw a fricken Mythosaur, multiple starfighter dogfight moments, the Darksaber used in combat in multiple episodes, a (brief) Order 66 flashback, and more easter eggs than you can count on 2 hands per episode.
What the hell else do you want? While I agree, the story overall didn't go as I IMAGINED it would...to sit there and say nothing happened is comical.
In George Lucas' own words, "The films were designed for 12-year-olds. I said that right from the very, very beginning and the very first interviews I did for A New Hope."
I’m just sad that they didn’t give Paz Vizsla some kind of commemoration after his great sacrifice. He dies and he’s never mentioned again, we don’t get to see his son vow for revenge or any kind of memorial service or funeral or anything AND the dark saber is destroyed. I feel like they could’ve done a hell of a lot more with this and you’re right it felt like it was a whole season of nothing fluff. I was super excited for this season and I kept catching myself getting distracted while watching which never happens especially when watching an episode I haven’t seen yet and I always go back and watch the episodes three or four times again before the next episode so I can pick up on things I missed and really get a full understand but I didn’t do that once for any episode, not even the finale. Just….meh.
Man up dude. They’re a warrior race, and they were at war. Some of them were going to die. They aren’t going to sit around crying about it. Paz made his choice.
Why would his son ‘vow revenge’? For what? Against who? He should be proud his father died a warriors death.
@@vaporwave4880 it’s a tv show dude. They should’ve expanded on his sons arc at the very least. It’s not real life it’s Star Wars, just a reminder that’s it’s not real and it exists for our entertainment. They could’ve showed something of anything regarding his death other than “ok red guys kill him, then that’s it for Paz moving on”
@@Danny___Riot that’s exactly how it should have been. Paz is no more important than any other mandalorian soldier, except to the audience. He went down fighting and that’s good enough. No need for fanfare & funerals.
This is the way
I personally didn't think Paz Vizsla should've died; he definitely could've survived that situation & retreated safely with the rest of the other Mandalorians. I also feel like the story around Moff Gideon's force sensitive clone project was too rushed when it was finally introduced. I feel like the way they were setting it up in the first 2 seasons was somewhat well paced, and then everything ended right away at the "climax of the plot" (the reason Moff Gideon was so focused on capturing Grogu); personally I feel like they could've shown this in season 2. Lastly, I didn't really like the way the dark saber was destroyed and basically how fast it was forgotten about in a way. I personally rank the seasons in the order they came out with season 1 being the best season for being so good without the cameos of other popular characters and doing a good job introducing a new and interesting story, then season 2 for the progression of Mando taking Grogu in his care & choosing to show his face in the end of the season to the child he developed a father/son relationship with. Also, Grogu's story progressing; although I didn't really like the season 2 was somewhat used to more or less introduce new shows instead of just focusing one progressing the actual story of the Mando show. However, it was still good. Season 3 I personally wasn't crazy about it considering the bigger impacts and introduction the previous seasons had. The ending also felt like the ending to the Boba Fett show where it's a happily ever after story. Not to say that there always has to be conflict, but it just felt like it was a Disney princess story ending in my opinion.
How did the Darksaber get destroyed if it was built with pure beskar?
Even if others can argue that his mechanical suit has the power to crush it, the sheer force would have utterly destroyed Bo's hand. Her hand would never be able to ever be used again.
It can be bent with enough pressure plus its the crystal that makes it the dark saber.
beskar hydraulics mixed with inconel alloy
Great question!! I had to rewind that part 5 times, because I couldn’t understand what the hell had just happened!!
Y’all realise it’s literally a trash season? Literally everything makes no sense
There’s just no topping that moment with Luke at the end of season 2. They diluted the impact of that finale by having Grogu go back to Mando so quick and therefore made it feel not as serious that it didn’t even happen in the Mandalorian but in the lack luster Boba Fett show. This season was very mid and all over the place. Hopefully season 4 is more focused on there adventures and not as much of the bigger story.
I hope Disney reads these comments and make some serious changes!!
@@toddroy9558 I very much doubt it as long as Shitty Kathleen Kennedy sits at the Top and has the Final say whether she approves it or not and where the story should go. 😮💨
@@toddroy9558 You're joking right?
@@ToneRetroGaming no, companies need to listen to their costumers or they won’t have any
@@nolan.. Listen to star wars fans that are always unhappy? Idk about that one.
I 100% agree with you Theory. Every point you made was spot on. It was a very safe and easy season that didnt take any risk. It felt like they were just checking boxes this sesson and rushed the writing. Great video!
Called cheap ass Disney 😂😂😂😂
I believe that Season 4 should take place after the events of Ahoska. It would make so much sense. Ezra would come back into play so would Thrawn. Ezra hypothetically could train Grogu and all the events could lead into Dave’s Movie.
The biggest problem I have with Season 3 is that we see Grogu becoming more independent, but not using his Force powers as much as you would expect. After meeting Ahsoka and spending time with Luke, he still looks to Din to tell him it's ok to use them. Then, after having seen him Force choke Cara Dune and later two stormtroopers, while simultaneously throwing them around the room, all he did when the Praetorian guards were attacking him was Force jump to evade them. I think he could have easily Force pushed two of them off that platform and threw the other on against the wall before anyone knew what was happening. I was sure he was really going to let them have it when I heard him cry in such distress over them attacking Din. But he just backed away from them insetad of using the Force. Now, because of his lack of experience fighting, he may have just been stunned when he fell. Ok, I can give him a pass on that, but it just doesn't set right with me that they seem to have "dumbed down" his Force powers now. I don't know if there was meddling by KK, or any Disney people, or what, but it didn't make much sense to me. Even if he just backed away so Bo Katan could have her fight with Gideon, ok, but at least have the kid really use his Force powers when HE is being attacked! Yoda did say that that a Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never attack. So, that's what they should have let him do.
Other than that, I think the first two episodes could have had tighter writing. The first one just felt like wasted time there. Also, I think with some rewriting, they could have switched the Plazir 15 episode with the pirate episode.
All that said, the whole season did feel like a reset. I hear rumors and can only guess whether or not they are true based on what I see on the screen. TBOBF seemed to be going along fine until the kids with the fancy bikes came into the picture, and then it felt like the Mandalorian episodes came out of left field. It really did feel like someone messed up and someone else tried to patch it up. So, because of that mess the thing with Gina, and Grogu suddenly returning to Din, and probably other nonsense going on behind the scenes we don't even know about, I can see why Favreau would really want to wrap up this story, move on, and start fresh next season. He said he's already written Season 4, so all we can do now is wait and see. If there is no Season 4, and/or Favreau walks, well, we got a happy ending. And honestly, it was pretty much the life I envisioned for Din and Grogu since the end of Season 2. I could tell that all he really wanted was to earn a living and be with Grogu.
Well said
I agree he did more against those cave monsters on mandalore. He lifted a mud horn it would've been better if grogu took out the praetorian guards alone. I feel like they are kind of trying to avoid having grogu kill anyone specifically
@@77mpickett Well, as sweet and wholesome as Disney may think that is, the reality is that he can't stay a baby forever. He's going to have to learn to fight and defend himself. All the other characters can kill people but Grogu can't is just ridiculous. Even Luke told him that the galaxy is a dangerous place and he would teach him to defend himself. Sometimes defending yourself comes down to killing someone who is trying to kill you.
Let's face it. It would have been really cool to see one of those guards suddenly fly into the air and go over the edge of the platform and then have the camera turn to see IG-12 and Grogu cry in distress and say, "No. No. No. No." The other two can go after him and shut the door. Bo Katan could have her moment with Gideon and Din could enter the room to find Grogu thowing the other two around. Din can still kill them with Grogu's help.
I wanted to see Grogu tap into the dark side a bit to rescue Din
@@KingShibe I agree. I don't know how much of an effect it would have on him. Lucas has said that the Darkside doesn't effect children the way it does adults. My guess is that's because children are still learning to control their emotions and let go easily because they forget that they were mad at someone for whatever reason. So if Grogu did tap into it to save himself and Din, he would likely just let it go and move on, happily playing with the frogs in the pond near his new home.
But maybe not tapping into the Darkside is supposed to show growth in him. Even so, I think they could have let him do a lot more and still keep him on the Lightside.
I agree with you Theory. Something seemed off this season. I wonder how long Dave’s movie has been in the works, because if it had been a while maybe it pulled him away from being able to really iron out Season 3’s story. I hope they’re able to bring back some of the magic of the first two seasons in the future. At least we have Ahsoka!
According to the credits, Dave didn't write most of the episodes. He was involved in writing episode 4 and 7 together with Jon Favreau. The rest are written by Jon Favreau on his own (episode 3 was Favreau + Noah Kloor)
Pretty sure the movie has barely started if at all really. It's years away.
Jetpacks cannot fly into space from ground level, established in canon and previous episodes ( fuel/power limitations being one of them )
The darksaber was a one of a kind special weapon, Din himself reacted to how pure the beskar quality was, impossible to break I don't care how powerful Gideons suit was
We clearly saw Din and Grogu get separated and that was the thing we were all fearing for, then Grogu randomly pops up right next to him just "because", suddenly R5 was there on the surface aswell
The clones in the vats meant nothing and changed nothing in the end, we've been building that up since season 1
They FINALLY repair IG 11 and get him back, they show nothing of his repairs or his reunitement with Grogu or Din whatsoever
Huge disappointment and weak episode, weak season all around
As always with disney star wars, they build up things for no reason and they keep changing or breaking already established lore
So your saying Feloni made mistakes?
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Why is that what you took away from the show
My problem with jet packs and the dark saber is the fact that Bo wields it with ease while flying. It was treated as very heavy in the show so it should have changed her trajectory. I also got scared of it being woke when Bo said there was more than one Mandalorian but the story had a good focus on both of them imo. I really liked it and I especially liked “YES YES YES”.
I felt that they also abandoned a ton of build up in the first two seasons. Grogu with Luke and his development. And then there was din jarin who was learning that maybe his creed isn’t all it promised it was. Not to mention that the darksaber in the book of boba fett. It showed an internal conflict that din had. Some say that he didn’t really care about using it but that doesn’t make sense since he fights to keep it from Paz vizla, and he trains to use it better. He sees it’s value but I. This season he just treats it as an after thought. I thought one of his huge motivations and the huge quest of din was gonna be finding the mines to be cleansed only to discover along the way that the children of the watch are not 100% correct, but intstead they dragged us on a wild goose chase. I wanted din to rise as “THE MANDOLORIAN” since that’s kinda been his thing. I wanted to see him become the leader or at least a very prominent figure on his way to leadership by the end of this season. Instead the retracted his internal conflicts they retracted his character growth and gave us what was largely a pointless season.
There are two things about this season that I’m convinced of which is
A. The retaking of Mandalore was originally a 5-6 episode arc but due to an 8 episode mandate they had to stretch it out (which would explain the filler)
B. Grogu wasn’t supposed to return until the end of this season or next season but BOBF changed that
The retaking of Mandalore should’ve happened in season 4
The reason this season was "all over the place" might have to do with Kathleen being back. Chapek took her back in charge during BoB. She brought in the scooters and she has probably been messing around with this as well. Rumor is that Favreau sacrificed this season to show the higher-ups what happens when Kathleen is involved
Tinfoil hat
It's hilarious the hoops people jump through rather than just admit Favreau is a hack and not who we thought he was
Favreau and Filoni have put out mediocre garbage in every live action show they have touched. Filoni only did good shows when Lucas was still involved.
These guys aren't going to save Star Wars. They are just as infected with left wing ideology as every other person at lucasfilm.
@@teddyjones3652 theres literally a inside source at Lucasfilm who is leaking what internal struggles going on, nothing new.
No different than the “doomcock” guy who leaked EVERYTHING about Rise of Skywalker.
Lucasfilm at one point was literally dishing out fake news to catch leakers within the company.
Only person jumping through hula hoops is you, stop jumping & start researching before you comment on anything.
Or favrue and filoni are just bad directers
I think if Kathleen hadn't forced them to re-unite them in BOBF, we'd likely have seen Grogu come back in Ep 7 or 8
Most definitely, I wouldn't be surprised if book of bobba originally was supposed to have been maybe a 1 hour special or possibly a way shorter season that got turned into something where they forced Mando in for ratings.
It’s nice to finally see a comment thread where people actually understand what happened this season.
Darth Kennedy had more influence on Season 3. She got rid of Gina for retweeting something that the Auschwitz Memorial tweeted years earlier. Obviously, two episodes of season 3 were shipped to Book of Boba to try to save that show. They forced Grogu into this season. Jon Favereau literally killed his voice in an episode which may or may not have a hidden meaning. I'm done with Star Wars. I have my novels (and pre-ordered the rest of the Omnibus of Legends Universe) and my hard copies of the movies to cherish and revisit.
Na, we got Andor
I'm so upset that Mando was sidelined in his own show. BOBF set up the idea that Din would master the Darksaber and rise up to the responsibility of leading Mandalore. But they just gave up on that story and gave it all to Bo Katan.
Though I do like how their stories ended: Bo Katan leads Mandalore once again and Din becomes a Lone Wolf once more
The show was confused about what story it was even trying to tell. Was it about Grogu? Was it about Din? Was it about Bo? Who knows. Either way, a very disappointing and lackluster season.
They don't know how to write good stories... plain and simple
@@botekate They don't. Too many side missions and convolutedness
it was definitely more about Bo Katan
All great comments. One thing that bugged me was that for a season that was about reuniting Mandolore, they failed to 1) actually describe the tension and fighting and how it contributed to the purge, and 2) actually show the two tribes find common ground regarding what Mandolore is about, rather than just a common enemy.
I was asking John Something in Season 3 and Season 4 I think the 2 Mando episodes in Book of Boba diluted the Mando series and they wasted a great opportunity to have a climatic ending in Season 3. If Season 3 started with those 2 Mando episodes, and Grogu actually chooses to train with Luke, that could have been the basis of Season 3 where we go between the 2 stories of Grogu's training and the Mandalore story, with Grogu turning up in the last episode to rescue Din, similar to the decision Luke had to make at the end of Empire where he chooses friends over his training. Now that would have been an epic season 3. I personally didn't think Paz Vizsla should've died; he definitely could've survived that situation & retreated safely with the rest of the other Mandalorians. I also feel like the story around Moff Gideon's force-sensitive clone project was too rushed when it was finally introduced. I feel like the way they were setting it up in the first 2 seasons was somewhat well-paced, and then everything ended right away at the "climax of the plot" (the reason Moff Gideon was so focused on capturing Grogu); personally I feel like they could've shown this in season 2. Lastly, I didn't really like the way the dark saber was destroyed and basically how fast it was forgotten about in a way. I personally rank the seasons in the order they came out with season 1 being the best season for being so good without the cameos of other popular characters and doing a good job introducing a new and interesting story, then season 2 for the progression of Mando taking Grogu in his care & choosing to show his face at the end of the season to the child he developed a father/son relationship with. Also, Grogu's story progressing; although I didn't really like season 2 was somewhat used to more or less introducing new shows instead of just focusing on progressing the actual story of the Mando show. However, it was still good. Season 3 I personally wasn't crazy about it considering the bigger impacts and introduction the previous seasons had. The ending also felt like the ending to the Boba Fett show where it's a happily ever after story. Not to say that there always has to be conflict, but it just felt like it was a Disney princess story ending in my opinion. I 100% agree with your Theory. Every point you made was spot on. It was a very safe and easy season that didn't take any risks. It felt like they were just checking boxes this season and rushed the writing. Great video! I am not posting in Season 4 I can tell you during my birthday on Thursday 17 to tell you soon in next week, okay thanks do not post it in the comments yet you are too kind and nice to me is not funny really real things that about me be nice on the Comments thanks in 50 minutes.
The worst thing to happen to mando was losing the razorcrest and replacing it with a hotrod n1... makes no sense and ruins the expedition elements of captaining a ship.
Yeah that’s right
Season 1:
- Teases Din riding the Mythosaur
- Ends on an emotional sacrifice of IG-11
Season 2:
- Din receives the Dark Saber
- Shows the comparison between Mandalorian factions and that the Children of the Watch are "The Way" compared to the Nite Owls
- Ends on an emotional separation Din and Grogu
BOBF:
- IMMEDIATELY ruins the emotional ending of Season 2 of Mandalorian
Season 3:
- Din is sidelined for Bo Katan
- Din willingly gives up the Dark Saber on a technicality
- Bo Katan becomes leader
- Every tease for Din's future is undermined
- Undo the emotional sacrifice of IG-11 at the very end and just bring him back in 100% working order
This is Disney Star Wars in a nutshell. None of us should be surprised.
that IG11 idk if it’s even the same one that died in season 1. but ya i was disappointed with the teases for Mandalorian (getting darksaber) just to end so casually. And ya there was less focus on him this season.
I also feel there was NO buildup for season 4 or the future of mando at all
One thing that has always worried me, especially when Mando was at its peak was knowing what it will eventually have to tie into. No matter what great things it does it will have the sequels hanging over it. May not be something that worries others but I really didn't enjoy the sequels and knowing this show that I love will eventually have to lead onto them is frustrating. Even with this season, we saw Mandalore be reunited but yet there's no reference at all to them in the sequels so it just makes me think that all these big things that happen just get undone for the sake of it. Really wish we could see Mando and the likes of Ashoka lead into a new future.
Curious about your thoughts regarding two things.
1. Why do you think when Din and Grogu show up on the map there is one green dot and one red dot? Wouldn't they be the same color cuz they are both intruders? Is Grogu or Din the spy?
2. In the intro to every episode they have the helmets in red or blue depending on if they are good or bad. They never closed the loop on the last helmet which is a red Mandalorian helmet. It doesn't have any closure to the episode theme of spies also. Let me know your thoughts thanks for what you do.
In season 1, Bill Burr got an entire episode. In season 2, he also got an entire episode and a really touching monologue, and it was all great! In this season Dr. Pershing gets a full hour episode. They should have replaced Dr.Pershings episode with an episode dedicated to where Bill Burr has been and I would have preferred that more.
YES
Cool, would be if Bill Burr was the one that found out that Mandalor was not contaminated and you can breathe on the planet. Then he was the guy who sold that piece of writing on glass to the Javas and they gave it to Din... That would of been a lot better than Dr. Pershing getting fried after a hr. of air time.
Bill Burr at least was with mando during his episode. Maybe if Mando was with Pershing it be better.
Season 2 was the best, that intro to Ashoka when we see her lightsaber just blew my mind. Literally shouting “what!” And we get to see mando interact with Ashoka and get a new weapon to face Gideon. Then he fights Gideon and gets an upgrade the damn dark saber. Then on top of that we get to see Luke at the end. It was just awesome after awesome with season 2. Season 3 just felt like the Bo show, mando gets his ass kicked often, grogu just goos and gaas and occasionally flips around. Looks like kenobi, and Bo ba fet rubbed off on season 3
Am I the only one that hated season 2? Season one all day, season 2 sucked, season three had many flaws, and I understand the critics, but what did you all see in season 2 that I didn't?
@@oddfellow8366 what I said, good story. Great live action character introductions. Season 1 was good to
@@Jtb1122own Fair enough 😄 I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy.
Hope we get to see more Boba Fett his family bloodline was fairly important in mandalorian history. Next season should be interesting Gina is also supposed to be back
Source?
Pretty sure Gina got fired because of the controversial stuff she said back in 2020/2021. That's why the New republic series got cancelled as a whole too
I had a theory a while back that the Darksaber would be destroyed at some point and then Grogu would aquire the crystal from the ruins of the the Darksaber and forge his own lightsaber around that.
So, yes, I am hoping for a little Din Grogu sized Darksaber in future seasons.
Jon Favreau said in February that he had already written Season 4, and there has been reporting this week that Season 4 starts production in October. It seems safe to say that the series will continue, and the ending of Chapter 24 strikes me as a reset/ending of a story arc cementing Djarin (which, apparently, is his given name?) and Grogu as a family (clan of two).
It’s our job as fans to hold Star Wars to the highest of standards in order to prevent our beloved franchise into Turning into just another tv. Tired of the saying “ just be thankful we are getting this” The mando season felt very off. Like it was an off brand of mando or something. I noticed flaw after flaw that make it all seem very fake. 1. Wth happend to the tie fighters? They just get destroyed by a burning capital ship? 2. Moff Gideon taking a dump while din destroyed his clones? Grogu jumping looks so bad. The whole Pershing episode really was for the lady to inform Gideon about the pirates 💀. They made a whole episode about these big ahh birds that they coudnt chase due to low fuel. Yet they seem to have plenty. Looking back at the season we spent 8 episodes to wind up finding out that the mandalorians returned on mandalore and the empire had a base. The stormtroopers suck and Disney has made them go from a level 3 to 1. Kenobi they got knocked out due to a palm. In the finale Gideon sends two incompetent storm troopers. Geee I wonder how he’s gonna escape 😐. It’s getting old honestly. This season just felt like they didn’t really know what to do. And they just got their way through it. Considering it took 2 years. I consider this once again ANOTHER FAILED STAR WARS PROJECT. Anyone considering maybe star wars isn’t for tv ? Idk the way it looks cheap and feels felt off to me. Thanks theory for giving ur take. Always call them out. We need exceptional content not “mid”
@@ZaWardo151 Bruh no one made George sell Star Wars you do frickin realise the clone wars was being made before he sold it and we all loved it?
Exactly ! Sick and tired of people saying “meh it’s good” when literally nothing made sense this entire season it’s like people have only seen something as good as power rangers as a show 😂😂 it’s like they’ve never seen good writing before.
your job? No one owes you anything you snob. You and the others are so negative. No wonder people hate star wars fans.
I hate to say it but Star Wars has become the definition insanity, doing the same thing over and over again expecting things to change.
@@ZaWardo151 Why do you Disney shills keep pushing this narrative like it is true. Lucas sold to Disney and has said the reason 1000 times and it isn't because of your ridiculous tOxIc fAnBaSe, Disney approved narrative.
Luke showing up was the culmination of a 2 season arc. Compared to season 2 season 1 is very tame with much lower stakes. I think this season of Mando is a way of "landing the plane" so they can move in a brand new direction without any loose ends to nag them. They obviously pivoted from their original plan at some point, while unfortunate I think they did a great job setting up a blank slate for season 4.
I also believe we will be seeing both Mando and grogu in shows like Ahsoka or BoBF. Favreau and filoni are master story tellers and they know where this is going and the story is obviously worth telling. We just need to be patient.
Season 2 put the bar so high there was no way they would (or in my opinion should) shoot for something as meaningful and amazing. It would cheapen the magic that was season 2 and if they had made a deliberate attempt and failed we'd all lose our minds lol. I believe we have some great star wars content on the horizon but unfortunately it won't always be here how we want it and when we want it. We just gotta trust that the content we're experiencing leads us to more amazing season 2 moments! But hold the line my friend! There will be amazing things in the future.
As usual thank you for your passion and knowledge on all things star wars!
Like the positive view!! 💯
In my best Obi-Wan voice:"That was SOME shortcut, Gideon..They went COMPLETELY the other way. "
I hope Pedro signs on for more seasons, and they can expand on Grogus powers. The whole baby grogu thing is over, I wanna hear him speak and I want a little green light saber flying around.
I mean it’s not he’s in the suit. He’s just voicing acting.
I wouldn't be surprised if Pedro quits unless he gets to take his helmet off. Katee Sackhoff gets to take it off but he doesn't? Why because now she 'walks both worlds'. Real reason - KK pushing for female lead for season 3. Din Djarin got relegated to backup/supporting character role instead.
No, just no. Grogu sells merch, his story is pointless.
I totally agree with you I just felt as if it's just going nowhere, there's no "plan" sort of like MCU going into infinity wars & endgame. Disney most likely pushed them to have Grogu in s3 and the story was a lot less concrete than something like Andor for reasons I still don't understand. Mando season 3 just in general left me with more questions than answers and that was the main problem
But it's like even if Grogu was forced into season 3, they still dropped the ball on doing anything meaningful with his character. The writers didn'T hardly do anything with the cards they were dealt.
The lead pirate looked like the swamp thing. Lol
I feel like, clearly something went drastically wrong after the first 2 seasons. The first 2 seasons were obviously planned out, there was a clear outline, a clear plan. I feel like after the explosive reception of the season 2 finale, KK had enough and put a quick end to it. I feel like during the production of the Boba series, it was the beginning of the end. There was a clear turning point. The Gina Carano fiasco, the rumors of Jon having to step in and course correct, the jammed in Mandalorian episodes, the questionable jumbled plot lines since the end of season 2... I feel like Jon and Dave did their best to bring Star Wars back and were under cut and met with resistance the entire way. The way this season ended, I feel like it's Jon's way of doing his best to try and wrap up what he started and get the hell out. That's just my personal opinion.
The best thing about Mando s3... The subscription allowed me to start watching Andor, which I seriously underestimated. Very good so far.
Nice
funny i'm about to do the same thing
Oh I’m rewatching Andor now.😂
It’s boring
@@jj2059 If you have severe ADHD, sure. Maybe you could put it side by side with some Fortnite gameplay.
At this point I look forward more to the watch party's than the actual episodes themselves, just such a great time. Keep up the great work Theory!
Yes, this exactly! They are so much fun.
That seems a bit messed up.
@@achaudhari101 how so? It's a lot of fun 😊
@@koryaiine7393 Chats are cancer first of all. Second Theory is stone dead face a lot of the time so it’s not like he reacts with surprise a lot of the time.
@@achaudhari101 oh c'mon it's not that bad! I think his reactions are totally regular and feels very natural when watching simultaneously. The chat is like any chat, they're always cancer and I'm all for it lmao. I guess it's simply just not for everybody, heh.
I think you are on point, but still play it safe. For most of season 3 I was not invested and the ending made me quite mad. Last episode is being praised by many and I'm surprised because it shows that public prefers action and explosions over a plot. Last episode - like you've said - reset the show. And it's go deep. Before this series we saw no Gideon, Mandalore was ruled by Bo Katan who was trying to rebuild a broken society, Empire was crushed and Republic was slowly rebuilding. After this season Gideon and his plans are gone, Imperial base on Mandalore and Pershing's research is gone (it was established that Pershing was pulled from Quiet council to do staff for Gideon in secret) and Bo Katan once more rules Mandalore trying to rebuild broken society.
To be honest, in span of this 3.5 seasons only thing that is changed is that Din found Grogu, Darksaber is gone, Empire has some spygirl in Coursant and that what's left of the Empire is even weaker as it has lost brilliant scientist and access to beskar - which makes rise of the First Order even more absurd (I know that there is a difference, but let's be honest).
With one episode they removed potential of Pershing research leading to Snoke and supplying Empire with so unique resources, which could explain their rise. I really do not like sequels, however thanks to Mandalorians' threads like this I was starting to accept that First Order had indeed chance to grow to size we meet it as.
I see no point of so many threads. Yes, there was a few of episodes which change nothing and we were bother by it - Jack Black one, Frozen Egg Cave one - however I feel like now whole threads are equally pointless. What was the point of showing us the clones if it was stated to the camera that they were all destroyed? What was the point of bringing Gideon back for season 3?
I really feel like season 3 was already done having a big continuation in mind, however something changed when it was too late and Grogu had to be added and ending itself was changed. I see no other explanation, as this two things really stand out from this season.
I’m starting to notice a thread possibility this season which,if I’m right, is a very gutsy and possibly genius story telling move on Fav-loni’s part, especially going forward.
They could use the Dins as our view into major Galactic events from the viewpoint, not of the “main” character (Bo, Ahsoka, the Skywalkers, etc.) but rather from the eyes of a pair of extremely competent “support” characters who come in, help the “heroes” resolve their conflict, and then ride off into the sunset and the next adventure.
That way they can “cross paths” with, say, Sabine or Boba, or even Po or Ray, help them, and move on.
In season four of “their” show I can see them taking various missions that lead to them uncovering information leading up to the Thrawn movie. They will also come across things needed for their own growth like a Holicron for Grogu’s training as an example.
The possibilities are endless.
I liked Moff Gideon cloning himself because it reminds us that they’re all narcissists in the end and only serve the “emperor” as a means to serve themselves.
I think they used this season to set up the movie.
Bruh how are you only figuring this out when Star Wars has been around since the 70’s 💀💀 they literally blew up a planet in the first movie of course they are narcissists and only care about themselves 💀
@@117MasterSpartan Blowing up a planet doesn't make you a narcissist, it makes you a psychopath sure but not necessarily a narcissist.
@@117MasterSpartan would you kindly copypaste the part out of his comment where he said that he only figured it out now (which would be totally fine anyway, not everyone has to know everything about SW)? Or do you just like to sound stupid?
I like it better than snoke. I hope they don’t go down that road
@@117MasterSpartan he said "reminds us" not "told us for the first time". Goofy ass
Utter disappointment. At least two episodes were a waste. The coroscant episode and the episode with the droids. Like you said, it’s one thing if it was for a 16 episode season but there were only 8 episodes.
I could watch a whole episode of Moff Gideon talking, with his theme playing honestly
You're right, the force was absent. When Din Grogu pushed back one of the guards with the force, I at first thought a Jedi or another force user had showed up. lol. I think my favourite part was Paz sacrificing himself.
You were to nice I think. For me personally, this season was total garbage... 2/10. It was all over the place. Gideon's death was also extremely underwhelming. Din and Gideon should have had a much more bad ass fight. I also think that Grogu needed to stay with Luke this season. They should have been training together and Luke teaching Grogu about the force and jedi knowledge. Mando should have been alone at first. You know, going to the mines of mandalore to redeem himself and so on. Then we would follow Bo and Din's story about them trying to rebuild mandalore. At the end Din would be captured by Gideon and Grogu would have sensed that his father is in dager. Giving Grogu a difficult choice of either completing his Jedi training with Luke, or go save his father (similar to what happened when Luke needed to decide to either finish the training with Yoda or go save his friends on Cloud City). Then they would be reunited once again! It just seems so forced to have Grogu reunite with Din so early.... especially when we had such an emotional ending to the previous season. I have almost lost all hopes of Disney making good SW content. Almost everything that they make is extremely mediocre. Maybe even bad at times. The only good content that Disney has made is mando s1&2, first 2 episodes of boba fett, rebels, cw s7, Bad Batch and tales of the jedi. I am very skeptical to Ahsoka aswell. I mean, we all thought that the Obi Wan show would be amazing. I mean obi and vader/anakin are so EXTREMELY important characters, it was impossible for Disney to ruin that. Yet, we got a show that focused on a forgettable and bad written inquisitor, goofy chase scenes and very few emotional or good ones... I just hope that something like that does not happen to Ahsoka. I just do not understand what Disney is doing.. They have EVERYTHING that they need on a golden plate. I mean for f**k sakes remaster or remake the amazing games like clone commando or KOTOR. Reintroduce these amaaaazing stories with modern technology... Go back to old star wars novels and comics. Make moves/shows out of them!!!!!!! But no, Disney want to make their own star wars universe. A universe that has no soul or good storytelling. Just one that makes money and one that they can milk and milk and milk for alt that it has....
sorry for the rant
I really liked the season. My favorite was 2, then 1, then this season. But I still had a blast watching every week with my wife and talking theories throughout the week with my dad.
Jon and Dave have proven to me that they understand what George was all about, so I fully trust them with Star Wars. I think this season was about buttoning up loose ends and stories that had to be told for the greater story going forward. Can’t wait for Ahsoka!
I've only read a few of the comments, but one thing that I didn't see mentioned was the degree of impact Cara Dune's absence may well have played in reshaping the course of the season, aside from how it played a role in delaying its rollout, simply due to scripts having to be rewritten, or at least, reconceptualized.
Perhaps this issue has already been examined extensively here; it certainly has been on some other channels.
OK here’s my pet theory
The original plan was either to end the Mandalorian at the end of the second season, or at least and the grogu part of it. I really think if they had their way we wouldn’t see baby Yoda again except maybe decades afterwards.
But then money concerns took over and the creators were told they had to put Mando back with baby Yoda.
I have heard rumors that Jon Favreau is kind of checked out, creatively. I think that might be why
And I think it’s mostly Filoni running the show. And he generally has pretty good instincts but they aren’t perfect. When you think about it this season is a lot like book of Boba Fett. A lot of it is kind of meandering and I don’t know where it’s going. There are times where the title character is completely sidelined. But it ends with a spectacular battle which goes a long way toward redeeming it. I mean I don’t care who you are the last battle in the book of Boba Fett was pretty sick. And I actually liked the final battle in Mandalorian season three.
And I think part of the decision was that they didn’t really want to do a Mandalorian season so they turned it into season one of the Bo katan show. Which I enjoyed but if you were hoping for more baby Yoda and Mando, you weren’t getting a lot on that subject, until the end
That’s my theory
Also it’s really not making a lot of sense the baby Yoda can’t talk at all. He understands what yes and no means so why can’t he say it?
I personally think that the next season or how many seasons to come, it'll involve the old traditional adventures from season 1 and 2. I even think Grogu will be the one to rebuild the dark saber just like Tarre Vizsla.
I honestly hope they don’t even explore the snoke clone route. Would rather they just not go into the sequels at all. Hopefully they changed that.
I hope so too but with KK at the helm of Lucasfilms. It’s probably going to connect eventually.
I feel that 1. This season was going to be a transition season for the show regardless, they needed to put to bed the mando restoration to bed and get Din and groggy to a place where they can organically get roped into the bigger thrawn story and 2. With the cancellation of rangers of the new republic they had bits of story that were important to the whole overarching story that needed to be there leading to the thrawn movie and they needed to shoehorn it into this season. It was definitely not the best but it did what it needed to because even tho there were slow parts to this season I’m primed to see what comes next
You know what? I have faith in the fans. Your fan film, Tukk Tales, all of these fun projects mean more to me than Disney Star Wars
It was fine. Nothing will top lukes appearance
Definitely a very jarring, odd, yet interesting season.
Indeed, Definitely din jarring…
@@sovkhan4359 british friend
Bruh it was not interesting in any way. Literally so many things didn’t make sense, like what happened to the tie fighters at the end? Why did he say he’s taking din to the debriefing room and then want to kill him then change his mind not to?
Yeah it's so hard to describe the season just because of how inconsistent and all over the place it was.
do you think the clan will change their way now they are all together as one and maybe not do the "cant take your helmet off" thing anymore? or make it optional? I'd like to see Pedro's face more by now
I think you're spot on to say 5/10. It was safe, there wasn't much at stake, and we really didn't see Mando or Grogu (the main characters of the show) progress as characters much
I felt we got what a Disney product is today...it's for kids and the management team took over the hot product and turned it into a commercial cash outlet. Once the first season was done and hotter than a newly minted coin, we were doomed 😢
Yep it felt shallow like the heart and soul somehow wasn’t in it when they wrote it
This whole season was so upsetting. My mind raced with possibilities for season 3 when Luke showed up at the end of season 2. The season could have been amazing and I was looking forward to seeing Luke after return of the Jedi. They set it up so well at the end of season 2 but it seems like they had no clue where they were going with it.
But the mandalorain isn't about luke....
Is the show called the mandalorian or the Skywalker?
Luke wasn’t implied or even hinted at in this season. You’re a victim of your own foolish expectations.
@@vaporwave4880definitely so but at the same time having Luke rescue the day at the end of season 2 naturally raised the expectations of this season, and it failed to meet them majorly.
@@shore-cityfilms exactly I had no expectations of seeing Luke, I thought they were gonna move forward with him to try and save their mistakes with the sequels
I felt like we were given so much hype when the dark saber came into play. And then when we saw din take it I couldn’t wait to see some bad ass scenes of him using it. But then we got bobf where he couldn’t figure out how to use it and then between the events of bobf and S3 he still hasn’t tried to figure it out he’s still struggling with using it. And I’d say that a huge disappointment considering him having it was one of the things they were promoting prior to the shows releases. Some how then he gives it back to bo on a technicality that I felt like could have happened 3 episodes prior. And then while fighting moff Gideon it gets destroyed. Which just the episode prior he was talking about wanting it back. IMO the dark saber in the mando series has just been a big disappointment and was overhyped
"like a john wayne type of guy"...
literally his grandson
This season really just makes me kind of sad and disappointed the same way I got after seeing the sequels. Like there is so much potential to do something amazing, they really proved that with season 1 and 2, and I’m just confused as to what’s actually happening back at Disney. They could really have pulled off something amazing with season 3, but it felt so lazy. Same thing with the sequels, I mean the potential of three new modern Star Wars movies taking place after the original 6. Now that chance is kind of lost.
I honestly couldn't remember most of the earlier season (not a good sign) so thanks for the recap! The "guest star" ep was the main one I remember, although for the world building of the droid life more than anything else. Totally agree about "what SW is about", which is why I'm not as crazy about Andor as the rest of the fandom seems to be (although I do see it as being very well-made).
Didn't like the Darksaber being destroyed and was really hoping Grogu would summon the Mythosaur Up From The Depths to fight for the Mandos! Seemed like they were going for that, but maybe changed it as it may have been too much like the climax of Boba Fett, and they wanted to stay away from that, since the fans didn't like that show, maybe? Given the mustache thing, it's reasonable to assume that Moff G is just playing everyone, and may even have been lying about the Force clones, we'll just have to see, I guess.
On the whole, this didn't strike me as aggressively "bad", I think maybe we've just reached the saturation point where new SW tv just isn't a "special" thing, anymore. Not "SW fatigue", just "Ok, here's another series", if you get what I mean. Hopefully, they'll step it up a bit whatever they do with it next.
Yeah like the previous two seasons I can think back to a random episode and generally remember what happened in it. But this season, even though the episodes are more recent, I struggle to remember what happened because not a whole lot did happen compared to previous seasons.
So TRUE, everyone had so many different theory’s for this season and we were all disappointed the answers to are questions were disappointing
My overall rating for the season is 4.3/10. It just feels all over the place, it doesn't know who to focus on, the lizzo episode felt very out of place and just.. odd. The only point the Pershing episode served was to show us the cloning stuff he was doing + the spy. We were led to believe it'd be a big grand emotional finale, being told to have out tissues ready and etc, just for it to essentially be "The Mandolorians fight the empire on Mandalore and win oh also the dark saber is broken now"
and the fact Gideon left his clones unguarded, unprotected, with the computer that ANYONE could use RIGHT NOW to destroy them because it doesn't require any verification whatsoever, is just stupid. Like he KNEW they'd be going into that room because it leads to where he is, he SAW they were in there because WE saw he had a map that showed him WHERE they were the entire time and he either decided to stop looking at the worst time or just didn't care. It's HIS fault his clones were smOthErEd. They made him a complete imbecile.
You hit this one on the head!! 5/10 is accurate. A few cool moments, but not great continuity to the overall story or even where the story is going!! I kept waiting for Luke to come back and save the day again…final line is Luke saying, “I think it’s time for you to come back and finish your training, Grogu!” It’s also possible that there are too many stories all trying to coordinate, so this story got watered down, in order to avoid conflicts with the other shows that are in the works.
I think overall, the season was good but definitely could've been better. I think this season also suffers the same issue as some movies (first Spiderman trilogy, dark knight trilogy). The first one was good with so much potential. The second one was spectacular because we could see the full extent of the show/movie and even more potential for what could come of it in the future, but when 3 releases it has so much to live up to because the second one was so good that no matter what happens if one thing is slightly off or doesn't feel right it basically kills the entire possibility of being better than the second. Regardless, I'm excited for the future of this show and the return to bounty hunting and small adventures/missions throughout the galaxy. Can't wait for season 4!
That might be true. But Season 2 of The Mandalorian had so much plot points which could've been progressed in the next season which The Dark Knight for example didn't. The Dark Knight could've been the end of the Trilogy but TDKR suffered by lack of direction and character development and also felt kinda forced.
Mando season 2 may also felt like the end of the DIn & Grogu story but lead to the DIn & Bo Story (which I initially thought contains them being enemies) so John could've done that way better imo.
So I think season 3 maybe didn't have the chance to live up to season 2, but this wasn't the main problem of it being bad or "just another simple starwars story", at least for me
as a whole i thought the season was just, okay, with some really great action scenes and visuals. but again, as a whole... i thought it was a let down
It looks like Grogu is being written to be the next Tarre Vizsla. He’s going the way of Mandalore. Him force sensing the mythosaur is foreshadowing this even further. If they repair the dark saber at this point, it’s probably to save it for Grogu later as it’ll be his when he leads the Mandalorians. Mandalorian is Grogu’s story.
Id say this was definitely the most peaceful and laid back season but despite that I think this was still a good season
I told my buddies this felt like a transition season into other stories for the mandoverse movie.
I feel like this season had and still has a lot of huge potential, with some areas not fully explored yet such as the doctor Pershing plotline and what’s going on at the New Republic and this chaotic state of the galaxy. It’s however unfortunate the season as a whole felt very safe and disjointed with seemingly no focal point.
I hope shows like Ahsoka and the movie that got anounced about the mando verse time period will give us some answers and hopefully make more sense of it all. For now….disappointing finale but i feel there is hope.
This has become the mantra of star wars fans unfortunately. "Well that was complete garbage, I hope (insert name of Kathleen's next announcement) will be good.
Forget this hope if you don't want to get dissapointed even more! It's disney! They wont ever change! And you do know this.
@@zibilacoste5 i think you are bang on, alot of these episodes don't hold any weight. there was alot of potential but they were not able to make it as engaging like the first 2 seasons. i do think that there is room to make things right with future projects so they have to make a assement on what does and doesn't work.
Also, Gideon simply saying, "I was cloning myself to have the Force!" is the definition of telling instead of showing. The writers are *telling* us about a threat that never even manifests. That's anti-climactic. If that's what Gideon was doing, and this is Gideon's last stand -- his last appearance -- then we should have seen a Force-sensitive Gideon in the flesh, and we should have had a Force-powered Gideon fight against Grogu and the others. The build-up was for nothing.
ya it’s like they had to make gideon explain his goal because his plan was 100% foiled 😂😂😂😂. And if that was his true death, then ya they wanted him to explain his goal
before his final appearance.
Definitely agree with your assessment of the season. Mando is really the only show kinda keeping me in canon Star Wars right now, and it seems to be on the downturn. I also just turned it off on the Jack Black episode. It just was so bad.
I want to give Disney the benefit of the doubt, but man.... my hopes are dwindling here.
Your review spot on and the same score I would give it. I think this season lost the average viewer which will hurt the show overall. Its a shame it kinda lost its way this season. It can easily turn things around and be great again but don't know if it will reach its heights from season 1 and 2.
I have a theory! With the rumoured controversy of Pedro Pascal behind the scenes, will Din Djarin now follow the story of the cancelled Rangers Of The New Republic show? At the same time, will Bo-Katan replace Din Djarin's original plot for the Mandalorian? It kinda makes sense, especially after the conclusion of this finale.
I think they realized after Season 2 that they had to unite the Mandalorians and get them and Grogu to Mandalore in S3 before Ahsoka's show, and everything in this season was about interpolating what happens between these things; how do we get the pieces on the board from where they are to where they need to be for Ahsoka's show? This is bad because it restricts what you can do creatively to begin with. The Jack Black episode could've been mostly scrapped and instead replaced with an episode in which Bo-Katan tries to find more Mandalorians from around the galaxy, like 3-4 clans instead of just 1. Even if it were a montage episode, it would still have been better than what we got and it would've been at least new and experimental. It could've had a cowboy western traveling vibe type of episode. They could've removed the pirate stuff and instead had most of the episodes take place directly ON mandalore such that it could've felt more focused. The good part, though, is that ultimately nothing severely canon-breaking happened and now we're on the way to Ahsoka and the Heir to the Empire storyline with the pieces hopefully where they need to be. In this sense I'm optimistic.
My theory on what gorgu and yoga are is that they are a Jedi species. Like there is a sith species I imagine there is a Jedi species.
They make writing Star Wars seem so hard. . . I know how we got to the Mandalorian. It started as a little safe story with little filler funny, entertaining stories from one planet to the next with a familiar name and a 50 year old child that looks like Yoda. It was what the people needed, it drove them back to Star Wars, to some they deviated their attention from the sequel trilogy, quieting down some of the kerfuffle and everyone was starting to get hopeful. But, now that the people has responded well to funny little side missions, instead of taking a risk and diving further into the lore of Star Wars or even expand the Skywalker timeline, they have spread and applied that safety into all of the properties. Bad Batch, Obi Wan, Boba Fett, Andor (some times. Was very good, it was so good but it could have been perfect). They need to start going deeper and get lut of this after sequel era little side quests safety zone. They have to be quick about it and do some things that would rebirth their writing structure or they'll risk of losing the Star Wars special feel forever. They cannot go on writing everything like (Mandalorian, Bad Batch) side quest here, we follow a secondary character to a safe degree for one episode, expand the plot a bit and then we return to the main characters the next episode where we have some other people invite them into the main from that was happening around them. Sluggish parts for a little while and then we end with some vague promises and unfinished business to do in the next season. This has to change. As viewers we cannot have the ability to see that they'll building something because if they don't deliver it will be worse. It needs to be good throughout of the season and secretly built up the plot. Mid season we should start to see it coming through great moments and around the finale should reach the high levels of awesomeness.
5/10 seems fair to me. Unpopular opinion and speculation, but, I feel that Dave Filoni has been working on Ashoka mainly, especially seeing how Ashoka is coming out in August. So that means that Jon Favreau has done the bulk of the work on Mando s3 and Book of Bobba Fett on his own, and it's showing who the brains are behind this Star Wars revival. I think Jon hitched his wagon to Dave, Jon having the bigger name Dave was probably happy with it (at the start). But now, who knows, I'd be cursing now if I was Dave. Don't get me wrong, Jon has done amazing work in other movies, but there is plenty of articles out there that show how unprepared he can be (good example is Jon making up the scenes for Iron Man 1 on the day they were filming in his trailer). It's hard to admit that the dream team might not be what we think, I hate even thinking it let alone typing it, but the evidence is stacking up. Don't hate on me, I love Star Wars and I just want it to be epic for all of us, what we got from Mando s3 is rubbish fan fiction at best. Most of us can day dream a better story line than what we just witnessed.
they are both focusing on ahsoka. kathleen kennedy apparently made john change a lot of the writing this season. grogu was not supposed to come back to din but kathleen made it happen
Right on the head of the nail
For me its a 8 or 7.5
Agreed. Either Jon dropped the ball this season, or it's clear he has diverted away from Mando to work with Dave F. I suppose we can't really know without some more behind the scenes and interviews though.
I’d think of 5/10 like average. “Mid”, not bad not good. 7 would be good, 9 would be great, and 3< would be bad
Biggest problem to me is how these shows aren’t being written to tell a story they’re being written to expand the show to be another season or to connect with another show like BoBF did hence why I think Andor was received pretty well for just telling an adventure story
I'm sorry but is anyone else cracking up at Theory's Baby Yoda impression at 8:51? 😂😂😂
I agree. What bothered me was them killing off Paz Vizsla, I'd rather them kill off Axe Woves instead of Paz. Grogu should have stayed with Luke, he was useless, I thought he was going to do some shit. My theory is Grogu will repair the Darksaber to fit his size like Yoda's since he is now Din Grogu the Mandalorian 😅
Remember Luke’s first student was Ben Solo and yes the reunion of the child and din was just freakin rushed.
I think cloning Maul (had it been possible) would result in catastrophe, as they would probably become too ambitious and betray one another, or at least unite against Palpatine. This is, after all, why the 'Rule of Two' was created. Palpatine knew his rise to power needed to be scrupulous, political and discreet, and not driven by force and coercion.
I loved the season. Like the other two it had missteps here and there but I think everyone missed the point. It’s no longer all about Din Jarin but the entire Mandalorian order as a whole (which now includes Grogu, Bo, and all the other factions). I also think Grogu was only meant to spend a little time with Luke in order to hone his force skills enough to defend himself before he’s fully fitted with Mando armor (and probably one day will run into an older Daisy Ridley to continue his Jedi training after Din dies)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure KK jumped in around episode 3 and took over direction, it definitely feels like the way the sequel trilogy was the product of a billion changes that left it making a lot less sense than it should have, like multiple creative directions were being given from all angles.
Lol, I love all the theories that we come up with. And then when Disney comes out with a series or episode, we are all shocked... not by how good it was, but how BAD they messed up, by how little they actually care about this. I loved s1 and s2, but s3 was a miss.
Sometimes I feel like the worst thing about Disney Star Wars is all the missed potential there is
@@Gage_Brumley Fr. Sometimes it seems like they released the first draft of the show on our tvs. It’s not horrible but not the greatest.
Variety Just reported that season 4 is going to be basically the canceled Rangers of the Republic that was supposed to have Cara Dune. It will be still called the Mandalorian, but Din will be in Cara's place. The last scene in the bar was the setup for that season. This was somewhat leaked over a year ago after the Book of Boba Fett series ended. The leak stated that Season three of the Mandalorian was the "last season" of the show we knew, and that it would morph into something else in season 4. Thats why the season finale seemed like a series finale, because it was. When Gina Carno was fired, it threw everything into a mess. The 2 scenes in the Book of Boba Fett were actually supposed to be in the Mandalorian season three.
I'm shocked you didn't mention the Darksaber being destroyed so casually.
Very good, top notch reaction to season 3! I couldn’t agree more with your review. I hope we get a better season 4 or movie right?