One correction: I believe that the maximum current is 5A so a 20v PSU output is limited to 100W. The latest PD standard also supports 28v, 36v and 48v for up to 240W maximum. Unfortunately while voltages higher than 20 are supported by the latest PSUs they do not yet seem to be available in trigger ICs. There is also an interesting variable voltage profile which is presumably designed to allow compensation for voltage drop over cables, but could be used to make hybrid switching/linear lab PSUs. Set the PD voltage about a volt higher than the desired output and then feed through a linear regulator to trim the voltage down to the desired voltage. Minimum ripple with maximum efficiency!
Thank you Bill- Another great informative video . Can you elaborate on the large power adapter you are using that has the digital output display ? Looks like a nice unit .
A while ago I wanted to build a USB PD Analyser that I could plug chargers into and it would tell me the voltage and current capabilities. I was at a loss where to start, but this video is gonna be a HUGE help! The Adafruit module looks like it's gonna be a great fit, just read all the data over I²C and display it on an OLED screen or something :D
I had questions about these power modules for a long time but didn't get an informative one and this one was the one I was waiting for Thank you for such videos ❤
😊 as always it's very interesting to watch your videos, and to learn so much from your knowledge, thx and I am always happy to see your videos , nice explanation, and to watch any your videos present and older ones 🎉
can't wait to be running my 3 phase several hp motors on usb c, at this rate it'll be only 5 years the mains coming from the power lines probably gonna be usb c too
I think the 5A is the limit on cable size and connector current, and the nanny state limits voltage to understand 50v for low voltage (un certified safety), so I think we will cap out at 240w for usb c. It's still pretty impressive as a lot of devices don't use much over this. I am working on a usbc spot welder with 2000A capability driven by usb c. HAN semiconductors are amazing
The cheapo chinese trigger i picked up allows me to adjust the voltage in 200mV steps from 4V to 21V, so o believe pd can support variable voltages rather than the fixed ones. This can be done on the fly using the up down buttons on the trigger board, and can compensate for cable loss or give in between voltages like 6.6v or 7.2v etc. it temembers the last setting so it will out 33:49 put the voltage on different bricks. I have used it with amazon and ravpower bricks.
I found this on Amazon "285W USB C Charger Block, YSYFAD 6 Ports Multiple USB Charging Station with Digital LCD Dispaly GaN Fast 100W USB C Charger for MacBook Laptops Multiport USB Charger for i Pad i Phone Samsung, Black"
USB Charging Station, Binamao 180W 6-Port USB C Charger for Multiple Devices, GaN USB Charging Hub with LCD Display, Multiport USB Charger Block for MacBook iPad iPhone Samsung Galaxy Android Laptop
Thanks a lot for this video! I had no idea about USB-C/PD but you explained it all very well so now I do. This definately opens the door to new project possibilities. Thanks again
Hi Bill, and everyone. In any of your tinkering, did you by chance come across a way to provide 5v at 5a to a Raspberry Pi 5? Thanks for clearing up all this mystery of USB c pd and showing us some cool modules to use in our projects!
Bill, how about adding a pinned comment providing a model and/or link to you desktop USD-PD charger with the digital display. There is a model listed in another comment but it is only 180W and the USB ports appear to be different versions than can be made out on your charger.
Hello. If I use vbus and gnd to power my device and add 5.1k resistors from cc1 and cc2 to ground. What to do with all the other pins - leave them floating or ground them?
I think yes, if you start with 20v, with some components you can create -10 +10 for the microphone, BUT... I don't think it will be good for a microphone and audio recording. All those powers are coming from a switching power supply that for audio matters are bad and noisy, but you can try.
@@911canihelpu And how would I do that? Once a rectifier strips out a polarity from the AC current how can you change the polarity of the output DC current?
@@waltermelyon4300 H bridge, as used in reversing polarity for dc motor, but for 10 V from 15/20 you might need to pwm it, does it really need 10V would 9V be enough ? capacitors on all dc power lines might help make it more stable, 10V might be to compensate for powerloss from wire resistance, long wires to/from amplifier
@@waltermelyon4300 You need the ground not in a floating state (meaning the mic amp can be plugged on any other grounded device) so you might need to use a transformer somewhere to get that negative voltage with enough amperage capability. As roberto said, your amp probably requires a very clean power supply though so you might have to forget about using any SMPS and get a good old linear PSU instead.
Very nice and instructive video. But I see now around 2400 views and only 400 Like! 😦 Come on boys, if you like the content of the channel, don't forget to to click on like. Do it during the video! I have some devices (e.g. Firestick) where, when the video is over, you can't click like any more, unless you start the video again, and get all the ad again ;) (...and sometime is even tricky, because RUclips may hide the video, since you have already seen it)
your title is worded more like an ADVERT than a content vid. I normally just click do not recommend for such videos. Lucky this time i check but bare it in mind cus that is my normal ploy
Hahaha pd is unnecessarily complicated and expensive. In pwm chargers, switching to different resistance in the sensing would change voltages, being that simple for so long. Another rubbish scheme to expensive hardware. No wonder EU support it strongly. Must be kickbacks again
Great to have Bill back, and sounding back to his normal superhero self.
Thanks Dronebot. Goodbye to power boosters, step up and down modules and derivatives. For me it is a great invention. Thank you very much, really.
Your timing could not be better.
I was just looking into this exact topic an hour ago for a new project!
One correction: I believe that the maximum current is 5A so a 20v PSU output is limited to 100W. The latest PD standard also supports 28v, 36v and 48v for up to 240W maximum. Unfortunately while voltages higher than 20 are supported by the latest PSUs they do not yet seem to be available in trigger ICs. There is also an interesting variable voltage profile which is presumably designed to allow compensation for voltage drop over cables, but could be used to make hybrid switching/linear lab PSUs. Set the PD voltage about a volt higher than the desired output and then feed through a linear regulator to trim the voltage down to the desired voltage. Minimum ripple with maximum efficiency!
Thank you Bill- Another great informative video . Can you elaborate on the large power adapter you are using that has the digital output display ? Looks like a nice unit .
A while ago I wanted to build a USB PD Analyser that I could plug chargers into and it would tell me the voltage and current capabilities. I was at a loss where to start, but this video is gonna be a HUGE help!
The Adafruit module looks like it's gonna be a great fit, just read all the data over I²C and display it on an OLED screen or something :D
I had questions about these power modules for a long time but didn't get an informative one and this one was the one I was waiting for
Thank you for such videos ❤
Bill, nice to see you back! 👍
😊 as always it's very interesting to watch your videos, and to learn so much from your knowledge, thx and I am always happy to see your videos , nice explanation, and to watch any your videos present and older ones 🎉
Very well explained
as for multi power could you do a video on how to do such
so 12v to power two solenoids and 5v to run an ATtiny85
Note that 240w is obtained using 48v at 5A (5:05). Older, simpler adapters can't negotiate this much power.
can't wait to be running my 3 phase several hp motors on usb c, at this rate it'll be only 5 years
the mains coming from the power lines probably gonna be usb c too
@@gg-gn3re Soon, the power lines will be replaced by type c cables as well
@@keppycs nice 400000HVDC usb c standards coming!
@@gg-gn3re and thanks to the new carbon nano tube reinforced blockchain cable sleeve, it can also handle up to 69000 amps as well
I think the 5A is the limit on cable size and connector current, and the nanny state limits voltage to understand 50v for low voltage (un certified safety), so I think we will cap out at 240w for usb c. It's still pretty impressive as a lot of devices don't use much over this. I am working on a usbc spot welder with 2000A capability driven by usb c. HAN semiconductors are amazing
Every time I think you covered it all you come up with something new .😁👍
Thanks Bill for a great USB review!!! Cheers ...
This was a "powerful" video, thank you very much :-)
thank you, your videos are a pleasure to watch .
lol, this is a good and useful episode, thank you. Looking forward to the next tutorial
This has been a big help, Thanks😊👍
Hi, what is the make and model of your desktop USB-PD Charger?
Thank you. Cleared up a lot of questions.
Very informative as always. Thank you.
Very nice video Bill thank you very much!
Hi Bill, how are you doing now and how's your mother doing? Nice video again 😊
The cheapo chinese trigger i picked up allows me to adjust the voltage in 200mV steps from 4V to 21V, so o believe pd can support variable voltages rather than the fixed ones. This can be done on the fly using the up down buttons on the trigger board, and can compensate for cable loss or give in between voltages like 6.6v or 7.2v etc. it temembers the last setting so it will out 33:49 put the voltage on different bricks. I have used it with amazon and ravpower bricks.
Nice intro to the PD part of USB. Thanks.
As a protocol, USB is nice. However the physical interfaces are awful; I'm being polite.
Very interesting, but have 1 question ... What is the Model Number and Source / Cost of that "Favorite" USB charger with volt / amp display???
Yeah he mentions its name nowhere in the website either. I really want that
I would like to know also.
I found this on Amazon "285W USB C Charger Block, YSYFAD 6 Ports Multiple USB Charging Station with Digital LCD Dispaly GaN Fast 100W USB C Charger for MacBook Laptops Multiport USB Charger for i Pad i Phone Samsung, Black"
USB Charging Station, Binamao 180W 6-Port USB C Charger for Multiple Devices, GaN USB Charging Hub with LCD Display, Multiport USB Charger Block for MacBook iPad iPhone Samsung Galaxy Android Laptop
Thanks a lot for this video! I had no idea about USB-C/PD but you explained it all very well so now I do. This definately opens the door to new project possibilities. Thanks again
great content as always !
Thank you for information, great effort
Hi Bill, and everyone. In any of your tinkering, did you by chance come across a way to provide 5v at 5a to a Raspberry Pi 5? Thanks for clearing up all this mystery of USB c pd and showing us some cool modules to use in our projects!
Bill, how about adding a pinned comment providing a model and/or link to you desktop USD-PD charger with the digital display. There is a model listed in another comment but it is only 180W and the USB ports appear to be different versions than can be made out on your charger.
Is it possible to use any android mobile touch screen display and use it in any diy project.
Another great video, Thanks
Hi DroneBot, what is the brand and model of the 240W USB PD Charger with the digital display shown in your video? I'd like to purchase one as well.
Can we use esp32 to build a hello google machine with speaker and mic I like all you content you are a teacher thanks
I rate this video at 240W. 👍
Hello. If I use vbus and gnd to power my device and add 5.1k resistors from cc1 and cc2 to ground. What to do with all the other pins - leave them floating or ground them?
Is it possible to get negative voltage out of a USB-PD? I have a 1980's microphone amp that required +10v and -10v DC from a 4 pin DIN connector.
reverse the polarity? :/
I think yes, if you start with 20v, with some components you can create -10 +10 for the microphone, BUT...
I don't think it will be good for a microphone and audio recording. All those powers are coming from a switching power supply that for audio matters are bad and noisy, but you can try.
@@911canihelpu And how would I do that? Once a rectifier strips out a polarity from the AC current how can you change the polarity of the output DC current?
@@waltermelyon4300 H bridge, as used in reversing polarity for dc motor, but for 10 V from 15/20 you might need to pwm it, does it really need 10V would 9V be enough ?
capacitors on all dc power lines might help make it more stable, 10V might be to compensate for powerloss from wire resistance, long wires to/from amplifier
@@waltermelyon4300 You need the ground not in a floating state (meaning the mic amp can be plugged on any other grounded device) so you might need to use a transformer somewhere to get that negative voltage with enough amperage capability.
As roberto said, your amp probably requires a very clean power supply though so you might have to forget about using any SMPS and get a good old linear PSU instead.
Very Good. Thx.
Isn't the selectable voltage of the ZY12PDN a little dangerous for devices that can't handle higher voltages?
Thanks easy why to get power to your projects.
You forgot about the USB 3.0 SuperSpeed B-connectors.
yea that ugly block thing is actually one of the best connectors, impossible to break and can always plugs in well
Can i get an automatic one that select automatically. Like if i put a phone or a computer it selects automatically
What hapenned to DB1? It needs to return!
Rock on!
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Great!
YAY! PD!
Pd is stupid complicated. Any pwm charger can have variable voltage by simply changing the resistance of the feedback voltage.
Please provide links to at least to your favorite devise like the usb-pd digital adapter.
infact this has spoilt my interest now another time maybe
The U in USB is for nUts
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Too many ads... 😮
CC-CV
Great
dude u want to pause a sec or 2 when u throw up a graphic?
How are you doing, how is your mother??
Very nice and instructive video.
But I see now around 2400 views and only 400 Like! 😦
Come on boys, if you like the content of the channel, don't forget to to click on like. Do it during the video! I have some devices (e.g. Firestick) where, when the video is over, you can't click like any more, unless you start the video again, and get all the ad again ;) (...and sometime is even tricky, because RUclips may hide the video, since you have already seen it)
your title is worded more like an ADVERT than a content vid. I normally just click do not recommend for such videos. Lucky this time i check but bare it in mind cus that is my normal ploy
"5-20V power" doesn't actually make any sense. Voltage is a measure of electrical pressure, not power.
Electric potential. Pressure was used with steam machines.
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Hahaha pd is unnecessarily complicated and expensive. In pwm chargers, switching to different resistance in the sensing would change voltages, being that simple for so long. Another rubbish scheme to expensive hardware. No wonder EU support it strongly. Must be kickbacks again