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Legacy Jun Player's Thoughts on Jun In Tekken 8
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There's probably going to be entirely different "tiers" for characters depending on if they're in Heat or not. Jun will obviously see some changes over the course of T8's life, but I just hope she doesn't become Kazumi 2.0 where they find stuff on her to nerf for no reason. Speaking as a Kazumi main who's excited for Jun.
Tier lists for fighting games have always included how well the character performs with the mechanics of their game. It wouldn’t even make sense to say that one character is S tier with heat and B tier without if there wasn’t a mode where players can play without heat.
Omg exactly! As a Kazumi main, I hope that they don't ruin her for no reason
Easy characters with no execution have to get nerfed if they do a hard character's job with ease.
Kazumi and Noctis nerfs have always been reasonable
@@josetojoestar7533 Kazumi's df1 getting it's range nerfed made sense because it never should've had that much to begin with, but there was no need to nerf her db4 to the point where it doesn't do anything on counter hit.
@@melvinshine9841gotta say I agree and disagree at the same time; her db4 getting a free d2 on counter was pretty unfair (I think it lasted til the end of S1 or S2) but yeah, it’s certainly ridiculous when it’s suddenly worse than that of Kazuya’s, losing its big + frame stagger on counter. Still, she got quite some good moves like stance 3+4 and wr1, so I won’t call her ‘ruined’. Her tier relatively did go lower as time went on, but I think that’s due to the rise of other crazy strong characters (2D chrs, S3 Leroy&Fahk, Lidia before nerf, Feng, etc.), rather than the game nerfing her to oblivion or something
Finally potential for Jun to be a viable tournament character, still won’t hold my breath though - she will probably be nerfed.
Her power crushes are strong, she sacrifices health for best moves and her mind games are strong too. If they do nerfed her, it probably wont be her lows cuz she doesn’t have a quick 12f low. What I guessing is a nerf to her punishment by adding 1-3 frames. Anything else, they’d have to take away moves. Hopefully, they don’t give her the kazumi or dragonov treatment.
(Tekken nerd here)Jun has been pretty strong since Tag2.
Genjitsu Stance can parry throws for (50 dmg) up to -11.....That's A LOT of frames to be minus.
For reference Anna Chaos Judgement parries throws for (25 dmg) but only up to -4.
For those curious few, every low parrying stances needs a window of 2 frames to activate. Armor kings low parry is the only exception to this; his is the only one to be done from crouching and needs 1 frame to activate.
Alisa also has a universal high parry reversal that parries EVERY high attack and throws. And since it's a generic b1+3/b+24 , she has the strongest throw parry because being at a moderate frame disadvantage increases the parry window. The only time this isnt true is if a move causes guard frames on hit such as Kazuyas df1,4; in this case the only thing your character can do is block or duck because that's how its programmed.
(Ironically, Alisa's head throw, Kuma bears stance grab and Eddy's negativa stance throws can't be parried by anything, and YES since it's a throw it Lerots/Jim's parry will not work against it.)
I assume that every low parry stance that had the bound effect(because they dont do dmg) will be changed as well since there is no strong benefit to using it over a universal low parry.
These are:
Armor king d2+3 or 1+4
Kuma/Panda bear stance(hold forward)
The only stances that parries weapons are Negan and Leroy and Lei. However Ganryus roll over move(idk what its called or the input) is the only move that cant be low parried period...another hard read.
Lei, Asuka, Leroy, and Anna(Negan wont be returning most likely) all have launching low parry stances, so they will be kept as is. However, Anna's CJM is the only one that can be interrupted if the the low attack has a faster follow up faster than 12 frames. (The rest of the cast on that list have total invincibility status, while Anna's invincibility only lasts until she raises her leg off of the ground.)
All this to is to say that Juns normal parry and Genjitsu stance mixed with her new life regaining Mirai stance will be even stronger than is was in Tag2.
Thanks for the hard work covering all those characters. Will be interesting to see how they balance healing moves.
She's quite strong in this game.
Do you think you can do a guide on the character?
Might be my new main huhu, also like her design 😭
She’s definitely a boss character with her life recovery aspect. Can’t wait to try her when the game is out
I want to main Jun just for the Miare stance it looks so sick.
Wait a damn minute, if fc 1 is i10, does it mean its the go to punisher for blocked lows at least up until -12? Or the range is too short? I know for she has ws 2,1 for -13 ws punish
thanks dude
Can you do the same video for Nina please ? 🥹
Genjutsu 3 has a follow up, gen 3,1 which wallsplats
If zafina not in tekken 8 definitely jun is became my 1st main 💯jun is awesome
do you think you will use asuka more times than jun in tournaments?
I'm so excited to see Juns in T8 tournaments, hope he does~!
Next waiting for Lili opinion video☺️
Wow, she's top tier already given she makes the most out of the t8 heat system
Jun looks amazing! No hat sadly so worse than Asuka
Will practicing in ttt2 be a good way to prep for her in T8?
i mean she's given alot of new moves here.most of her tag 2 moves are in but with the heat system her moves have different properties
She’s kinda still the same but different
main jun here
Who do you thinks better? Asuka or Jun?
Asuka by far, Asuka is like a easier simpler Jun. A lot of Juns moves feel punishable, especially launchers
From playing the beta I think asuka gonna be better than jun
@@tudaman89 Unfortunately, she's just more simple
I hope they put Jun in tekken 8
Huh? Have u watched the video?😂
This is Tekken 8 dude
That would be so rad but I wouldn't count on it, Asuka has a good shot though
idk i think Kazuya needs a spot kinda weird he isnt already
I bet you're still stuck in the past and thought this video is from Tekken 7 🤣🤣🤣🤣
How comparable is Jun to Asuka (or vice versa)?
Asuka is easier
@@darkpromeathean937 I figured as much. I did notice they share a lot of moves though, is one character faster than the other?
@@ShaneC87 Asuka is faster, everytime I tried to launch asuka as Jun she would beat me
Asuka is better and easier to use her back 3 move is better and she plays just like Tekken 7 plus Tekken 8 combos are way easier to do now
@@tudaman89 I heard about combos being easier to do. Didn't they make the input for her special grab a lot easier.
no Hellsweep?
I can only go off of my tag 2 knowledge but she only has a hellsweep during her Izumo stance.
Thanks for sharing
Wow could keep out and heal mid fight
i am still very likely to play Asuka but i want to try Jun but I will likely kill my own dumbAz with her mechanic.
Only if you spam genjitsu into forward 2 a lot
I was very uncomfortable playing her cuz I never played her online nor got information about her frames, thanks for this "guide", I will player her friday
I found a couple combos with her but I feel they weren't optimal. They were definitely true though
Out of the 16 already announced she's the only one I like. The rest I either hate (Bryan, Lili, Asuka, King, Jack) or they're not my type (Leroy, Claudio, Nina) or I don't like how they play (Xiaoyu, Lars, etc.) so unless they announce Anna, Zafina or Kuni she's my backup (I'm gonna give her a go anyway even if they are announced as she was one of my Tekken 2 characters back in the day when I was mashing buttons vs friends and it might be my only opportunity to play her).
She looks pretty cool, doesn't have Asuka's personality (big plus for me) etc. I just hope I won't end up killing myself constantly by depleting my own health and then dying in 1-2 hits. :D
It's funny though: Tekken, which is the game I like the gameplay (and the level of customization) the most so far has the least amount of characters I want whereas much smaller roster games like SF6 (which had 4 at launch with Cammy, Juri, Kimberly and Chun Li which I'm playing right now) aaaand MK1 (which already announced 4 outworld/edenian ladies for me to try out, maybe we'll get Jade too, one can dream) have way more characters I like.
Dear diary
is she fun to play though??
Very
*Promosm*
Honestly, I'm hoping she's seen as mid to low tier to 95% of yal when the full game comes out so that there's a few of us using her, and her and Asuka are underestimated.
Are you one of those gatekeeping folks?
@zQlyr he could be like me, a dude that just likes the chars that happens to also disdain degens and how they ruin video game discussion and culture
@@zQlyrwhy u gatekeeping him from gatekeeping tho? Shouldn't gatekeeping be open to everybody?
@@zQlyr if gatekeeping equates to trying to stop people from using a particular character, then no. If gatekeeping refers to preferring to be the few using a particular character, yes, gladly. Idk what you mean.
@@theaudiocrat i assume he's not, by merely asking a question he's ignorant to. If they have a particular issue with what I said, i expect they'd just tell me directly.