So, your theory is, that abundance of imitating behavior & mirror neurons is what makes us human; locigally what you're saying is that autistic people are less human until you condition their brains to function like yours, by means of early intervention. Just because our brains find isolated pictures of people less engaging than geometry and patterns? Do you realise that not even the most intense ABA will change a person from Autistic to Neurotypical? The only thing you'd achieve by conditioning our reward system to respond to social stimuli, is a brain that is sensorically, cognitively and emotionally in permanent overdrive, because its different sensory filters, and emotional processing and logical areas trying to make sense of social subtleties, still won't be up to the task of having to socialize all the time. Instead you'll create an anxious, insecurely attached, traumatized Autistic child that is conditioned to seek social reward in order to regulate, but had his self soothing techniques discouraged (eg Stimming, echolalia, hiding &avoiding overstimulatig situations). Same with learning: Why would you force a brain that isnt wired for learning by mimicking to do just that? Your Autistic patients will eventually do as you please, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to help them apply their analytical & information collection strengths to learning? With ABA, a child will inevitably learn that their attachment to other people, their safe spot in their social matrix, everything they find rewarding, is conditional and will always involve bearing a significant amount of stress, overwhelm and sensory pain. Yes I can (and feel forced to) do some small talk with my neighbours. But every single time there's panic shooting through my body. Every time I have to forcibly stop my brain from whatever or was doing at that moment, start and boot the program " actlikeahuman.exe " consciously control my facial expressions, tone, make sure I meet the unwritten content and length requirements for the interaction. You cannot imagine how difficult it is for the Autistic brain to get back onto the task it was before after such an interruption. I've failed college exams because people thought it would be nice to have a little chat beforehand. Stop trying to make our brains work like yours. Stop forcing Autistics to socialize your way. You don't need to make us neurotypical. Instead focus on research how to communicate better with us; learn some Autistic mannerisms and communication styles.
..."if the baby fails"....wtf. babies do not fail tests. it is despicable to talk about kids like that. also, the way she just totally defines autism as something negative, pls no. i feel objectified by someone like that. this lady is hollow.
Many tests have fail states and it’s okay think of autism as a somewhat negative. One with autism loves a different and more complex life, compared to one who doesn’t. At the end of the day, the autism spectrum is a human trait which both has pros and cons. Some pros are, how many inventors are autistic, helping the world turn. While some examples of negatives are the extra effort for education, lack of social skills, etc. remember that not all autists behave the same way.
There must be some advantage to such a generally abnormal but yet specific rewiring of the brain in fixed numbers among a given population, and from such an early age. Why do they not question how this comes about? Would there have been an advantage when we were more integrated with the natural world and lived in smaller human communities (most of our evolution)? Then geometric patterns may have been a useful way of organizing nature, after all Euclidean geometry serves as a human cerebral interpretation of space. The linguist Noam Chomsky thinks of language as separate from speech and communication but rather as an internal, nonlinear function of the human brain tangentially related to art and family group organization. It may be a way of thinking that is expressed differently in less social contexts. In order to hunt and gather, for example, it may lead to a different wiring of neurons/engage different areas of the brain with different goals in mind beyond linear communication. Just some thoughts. If I were those scientists I would not discredit the children's interest in geometric patterns, but rather question what information they are absorbing that interests them more that the adjacent images of people and why. We all study math at school, which has no obvious social function but clearly functions as systematically as language but more so in the natural world. And generally mathematicians are far less social/display autistic traits more than those who do not understand or enjoy math. It would be one thing if the autistic children did not engage with either image, but they show equal engagement in the opposite direction, and same applies to sounds. That should be further explored.
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6:30 i can't stop watching those cool shapes and colors!
16:44 all of those "environmental sounds" are physically painful, and seem much, much louder than the voices.
So, your theory is, that abundance of imitating behavior & mirror neurons is what makes us human; locigally what you're saying is that autistic people are less human until you condition their brains to function like yours, by means of early intervention. Just because our brains find isolated pictures of people less engaging than geometry and patterns?
Do you realise that not even the most intense ABA will change a person from Autistic to Neurotypical?
The only thing you'd achieve by conditioning our reward system to respond to social stimuli, is a brain that is sensorically, cognitively and emotionally in permanent overdrive, because its different sensory filters, and emotional processing and logical areas trying to make sense of social subtleties, still won't be up to the task of having to socialize all the time.
Instead you'll create an anxious, insecurely attached, traumatized Autistic child that is conditioned to seek social reward in order to regulate, but had his self soothing techniques discouraged (eg Stimming, echolalia, hiding &avoiding overstimulatig situations). Same with learning: Why would you force a brain that isnt wired for learning by mimicking to do just that? Your Autistic patients will eventually do as you please, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to help them apply their analytical & information collection strengths to learning?
With ABA, a child will inevitably learn that their attachment to other people, their safe spot in their social matrix, everything they find rewarding, is conditional and will always involve bearing a significant amount of stress, overwhelm and sensory pain.
Yes I can (and feel forced to) do some small talk with my neighbours. But every single time there's panic shooting through my body. Every time I have to forcibly stop my brain from whatever or was doing at that moment, start and boot the program " actlikeahuman.exe " consciously control my facial expressions, tone, make sure I meet the unwritten content and length requirements for the interaction.
You cannot imagine how difficult it is for the Autistic brain to get back onto the task it was before after such an interruption.
I've failed college exams because people thought it would be nice to have a little chat beforehand.
Stop trying to make our brains work like yours.
Stop forcing Autistics to socialize your way. You don't need to make us neurotypical.
Instead focus on research how to communicate better with us; learn some Autistic mannerisms and communication styles.
Thank you. Very well explained Julia 👏👏👏
I'm not a human because I lack a clone-drive? Seems to be her point
suggestion: change playback speed to SLOW. Easier to listen.
These are some well designed experiments!
Amazing! I am sharing with families and friends
Yes, I feel like I'm at an auction.
Very interesting!
Clearly, she needs to switch to decaf.
I could not listen the verbal was soo fast ,i could not understand
you talk too fast yeah slow down lady
..."if the baby fails"....wtf. babies do not fail tests. it is despicable to talk about kids like that. also, the way she just totally defines autism as something negative, pls no. i feel objectified by someone like that. this lady is hollow.
Many tests have fail states and it’s okay think of autism as a somewhat negative. One with autism loves a different and more complex life, compared to one who doesn’t.
At the end of the day, the autism spectrum is a human trait which both has pros and cons. Some pros are, how many inventors are autistic, helping the world turn. While some examples of negatives are the extra effort for education, lack of social skills, etc.
remember that not all autists behave the same way.
There must be some advantage to such a generally abnormal but yet specific rewiring of the brain in fixed numbers among a given population, and from such an early age. Why do they not question how this comes about? Would there have been an advantage when we were more integrated with the natural world and lived in smaller human communities (most of our evolution)? Then geometric patterns may have been a useful way of organizing nature, after all Euclidean geometry serves as a human cerebral interpretation of space. The linguist Noam Chomsky thinks of language as separate from speech and communication but rather as an internal, nonlinear function of the human brain tangentially related to art and family group organization. It may be a way of thinking that is expressed differently in less social contexts. In order to hunt and gather, for example, it may lead to a different wiring of neurons/engage different areas of the brain with different goals in mind beyond linear communication. Just some thoughts. If I were those scientists I would not discredit the children's interest in geometric patterns, but rather question what information they are absorbing that interests them more that the adjacent images of people and why. We all study math at school, which has no obvious social function but clearly functions as systematically as language but more so in the natural world. And generally mathematicians are far less social/display autistic traits more than those who do not understand or enjoy math. It would be one thing if the autistic children did not engage with either image, but they show equal engagement in the opposite direction, and same applies to sounds. That should be further explored.
Or you're just too slow.