You consistently make high quality videos man, we all really appreciate you. The DIY route looked too hard for me and for the small difference in price (and risk) it made so much more sense to drop $500 on a Glowe Voltage Series 2 and call it a day. And just a heads up, I feel like the volume for your videos always sounds a bit low, I have to turn up the volume always. Can't wait for your next video!
man they work great, but be warned, IF you charge them hard 14.5v at very low outside temps 32f and below, they stand a really good chance of simply combusting into flames. im not parroting information, I HAD TO PUT OUT THE FIRE, in the back of my tahoe. IF you run these guys, ESPECIALLY in the winter, carry a couple fire extenguishers. PLEASE! because water dont work, nor does piles of snow...i tried that. i had to cut wires with a headge trimmer, and pull the headway bank out ON FIRE and throw it. I LEFT IT RIGHT WHERE IT LANDED. just wanted to do my part and pass on this warning, run em if you want, please carry an extenguisher.
@BudgetBassHead man you always have some kind of helpful information in your videos, but it's more than just car audio information that's in it, it's your positive energy and presentation that gets me. Definitely appreciated. Don't ever think differently
I've had this 96ah headway bank in my car for over 2 years now on a jp83. I learned how to do this from a RUclips guy called Trevor Moon. He does a thorough job in teaching how to set this up. It's not hard but trust me it is scary 😂. I have a mechman 240 amp alt and 4 runs of 1/0 ofc wire from alt to battery bank. People clown on headway because it's not scib or cmax but I'm telling you right now, I have never seen 11 volts and rarely ever seen 12. This bank of 96ah is now problem for a jp83. It really is a great bank. But you better know what your doing
Interesting video. Thanks.. LOL I like how you are trying to create a top notch sound system. The batteries a means to an end. Like breaking the sound barrier in a jet is a good way to think about building the best sound system possible. I know you reference SPL, but I can't help but think your system sounds pretty fantastic too. Electricity doesn't like to be "held" but used. Our battery technology is not very impressive nor much improved than 100 years ago and somewhat dangerous because we are using chemistry to hold the electricity and it can and does catch fire sometimes. Ooops. All for the Sake of the Music (and maybe a few bragging rights :) DIY Cool Shit.
Damnnnn brodi... I love lithium of ANY kind. But you shoulda went LEV60Fs :X And YO do you have the ultracap in there too??? I dont see it anywhere! Was you testing sealed up?? Or window down? That horn did great. I bet it sounds good af too......... You should put the STW350 in it :D
Wow that’s awesome! Are you cooling your batteries or is it needed for this setup? The reason I ask is because I drive a civic hybrid and heat is a killer for these batteries. I had to add some pc fans to push and pull heat from the pack. Thought it would be an inexpensive mod for the battery pack.
No I don't need to cool these batteries. I think most hybrid cars are using those 18650 style battery cells. I believe the chemistry is lithium-ion or nickel metal hydride. That's a different type of battery from this one. This battery is lithium iron phosphate 4.
The batteries in your Civic are designed to be charged at a very high rate as well as discharged at a high rate and can get very hot, so they require Cooling. The charging and discharging rates on a car audio battery are much lower and although they may get warm, they usually don't require any additional Cooling.
Got a ? I'm running a skar rp4500.1 and a zv6 12 d1 at 2 0hm maybe .05 ohm in future should I get the red headway or the blue 15ahr headway gonna get 24 to start then another 24 basically im gonna get 4-24 cells cause gonna get another sub or going 2 15s or 2 18s and another 4500.1 or a 10k and have a js 370 alt with a knob to adjust the voltage out put I would really like you opinions and other people's I've had big systems but ran agm this is new to me and this is my last system 😅 ty keep up the videos
I'm so shocked the 1 12 did so much better than the 2 18s, I still can't wrap my head around it. Do horn enclosures have that much of a benefit over infinite baffle in terms of SPL? The cone area difference is IMMENSE!
Infinite baffle is an SQ setup. Is meant for sound quality not SPL. Horn enclosures are meant for efficiency. To take a small amount of energy and make it sound great or bigger. Couple that with the power of this subwoofer ... they get very loud.
Cone & Port sound vs Cone sound. Boxes tuned properly always outperform, BUT tuning limits the speakers sound reproductive qualities... They are Bass response reproducing machines at the end of the day. I bet the 2/18's "sound" better in the end, the enclosed, a bit punchier with a distinctive tone. I ran IB setups back in the early 80's... later built cabinets because they are easier to deal with, have good output and ya are not redesigning yer car to become an enclosure. Simplicity won.... COMPARE the AGM vs the Lithium and also volatility... touch on that too in part two. BUDGET...
I have a question, can I just keep my regular battery under my hood and add a 12 volt 100ah or 200ah lithium battery that people are using for solar systems? The ones I’ve seen tested on RUclips are only a few hundred bucks and have bms built in.
What happens with batteries is that they will "suck" on each other till equilibrium ensues. Batteries are NOT all equal so weaker ones will deplete stronger ones etc. ONE DEAD CELL will kill the entire battery pack. SO it is important to get them all to be the same voltage and charge rate. Your alternator can charge additional batteries attached to the cars main battery, just know that batteries interact, the ALTERNATOR really provides the LONG TERM voltage once a PEAK is overcome... Batteries are for storage. Alternators produce the continuous AMPS your stereo will consume. Multiple alternators since 1983 here... way to go.
It's best to keep your batteries, of the same type and chemistry. Lead acid AGM batteries have a different type of charge and discharge rate and recommendations than that of lithium batteries. What will happen is that the lithium battery will rest at a different voltage than the AGM battery and the lithium battery will potentially float the AGM battery; possibly until it is depleted.
The solar based lithium batteries are not capable of outputting a lot of amperage or being charged with a lot of amperage due both to the chemistry of the battery and the BMS. Most are designed to Output 100 amps, which isn't very useful for car audio.
I wouldn't, like others have said the weaker battery will drain the stronger one till it equals out resting voltage, I wouldn't use solar cells, these headway cells are far better then the cells you would find in solar setups, that Being said a front battery delete is most common when running lithium
i watched some videos from jehugarica like 6 months ago when he had a couple deals on batterys i was impressed on his stress test i was going to buy one from jag but i feel like i need more info if it will be right for mw since i live in michigan and its cold here and im not sure how these batteries react to the cold
Lithium batteries are more tolerant to temperature changes than AGM batteries. AGM battery have more liquid inside of them. But always research whatever configuration you have of lithium.
Some lithium based cells can handle higher temperatures and some can handle lower temperatures it just depends on the exact way the chemicals are mixed. So if you're dealing with really cold temperatures you're going to look specifically for a battery that can handle your temperatures. This information should be listed in the cells data sheets. Some people that live in really cold climates will actually pull their lithium cells out and put AGM in for a few months.
Honestly, I think you'd be better off looking at the Lev60f. Those are new cells as opposed to the headways which are used. I also think they're cheaper and have more capacity for their size. You'll just need to keep them compressed.
@@JasonWW2000 I just don't know a damn thing about those, I do know enough about the headways tho so if I decided to go that route I'd be more comfortable
Just remember that electricity is always drawn by the source, the power available (hopefully) when the source demands it, the weaker drawing from the stronger. Copper still the best material when working with electrical connections, for now.
That's basically incorrect. Renewable energy is about using energy that's currently being wasted. We're talking hydrodynamic energy like from dams, wind based energy and solar energy. Our sun is just a big old fision reactor that's outputting way more energy than we are able to use. Non-renewable energy is things that are carbon-based such as oil and coal. Once we use that up. it's gone forever.
You consistently make high quality videos man, we all really appreciate you. The DIY route looked too hard for me and for the small difference in price (and risk) it made so much more sense to drop $500 on a Glowe Voltage Series 2 and call it a day. And just a heads up, I feel like the volume for your videos always sounds a bit low, I have to turn up the volume always. Can't wait for your next video!
Glad to help you out with your build! I will make sure to keep the volume in mind.
Cool to see you on here as well as Facebook 🤙
man they work great, but be warned, IF you charge them hard 14.5v at very low outside temps 32f and below, they stand a really good chance of simply combusting into flames. im not parroting information, I HAD TO PUT OUT THE FIRE, in the back of my tahoe. IF you run these guys, ESPECIALLY in the winter, carry a couple fire extenguishers. PLEASE! because water dont work, nor does piles of snow...i tried that. i had to cut wires with a headge trimmer, and pull the headway bank out ON FIRE and throw it. I LEFT IT RIGHT WHERE IT LANDED.
just wanted to do my part and pass on this warning, run em if you want, please carry an extenguisher.
I bought SPIM cells from battery hookup around 8 months ago
Sorry to hear that happened to you. And to all others: 'Always follow manufacturer recommendations and exercise caution when using these batteries. '
@@BudgetBassHead yupyup, i am down with trunk thunder lithium these days, brandon builds really good packs, code CAE10 if youre interested.
NMC cost me my home and business....and it wasnt even my fault :(
In Denver right now and we seeing 15°f lows. That shit is scary to think about when my truck is worth over 100k..
I run a SuperBeast 96AH headway bank in three different vehicles and LOVE them!
Top shelf advice and highly appreciated.
Ty sir for sharing 🤞
Glad I could help!
@BudgetBassHead man you always have some kind of helpful information in your videos, but it's more than just car audio information that's in it, it's your positive energy and presentation that gets me.
Definitely appreciated. Don't ever think differently
Thanks for another informative video. That 144 with one 12 was impressive.
Clean power and an efficient enclosure.
i have a 64ah bank and love it so far need more now tho
On the model S and X, up until they switched to the 2170 cells, they were using the Sanyo NCR18650B. A high capacity, low amperage 18650 cell.
Spim08hp are a better option imo... unless you can't do voltage past 14.6v
I haven't tried them. But as long as your are knowledgeable about the science, then go for it.
@BudgetBassHead personality I use a 190ah cmax. But I'm in the process of gathering cells to build a 130.5ah outta the new 2.9ah scin lto.
Id be curious as hell to see you do these tests etc. In a more SPL ready car cause those numbers would climb i feel regardless vids are great.
I've had this 96ah headway bank in my car for over 2 years now on a jp83. I learned how to do this from a RUclips guy called Trevor Moon. He does a thorough job in teaching how to set this up. It's not hard but trust me it is scary 😂. I have a mechman 240 amp alt and 4 runs of 1/0 ofc wire from alt to battery bank. People clown on headway because it's not scib or cmax but I'm telling you right now, I have never seen 11 volts and rarely ever seen 12. This bank of 96ah is now problem for a jp83. It really is a great bank. But you better know what your doing
Glad to hear you're having good luck with that setup!
Did you use your corrosion X brother!!
@GTILOUD yes sir I sure did
Interesting video. Thanks.. LOL I like how you are trying to create a top notch sound system. The batteries a means to an end. Like breaking the sound barrier in a jet is a good way to think about building the best sound system possible. I know you reference SPL, but I can't help but think your system sounds pretty fantastic too. Electricity doesn't like to be "held" but used. Our battery technology is not very impressive nor much improved than 100 years ago and somewhat dangerous because we are using chemistry to hold the electricity and it can and does catch fire sometimes. Ooops. All for the Sake of the Music (and maybe a few bragging rights :) DIY Cool Shit.
I'm glad you like the video and the system's sound!
Damnnnn brodi... I love lithium of ANY kind. But you shoulda went LEV60Fs :X And YO do you have the ultracap in there too??? I dont see it anywhere! Was you testing sealed up?? Or window down? That horn did great. I bet it sounds good af too......... You should put the STW350 in it :D
Wow that’s awesome! Are you cooling your batteries or is it needed for this setup? The reason I ask is because I drive a civic hybrid and heat is a killer for these batteries. I had to add some pc fans to push and pull heat from the pack. Thought it would be an inexpensive mod for the battery pack.
No I don't need to cool these batteries. I think most hybrid cars are using those 18650 style battery cells. I believe the chemistry is lithium-ion or nickel metal hydride. That's a different type of battery from this one. This battery is lithium iron phosphate 4.
The batteries in your Civic are designed to be charged at a very high rate as well as discharged at a high rate and can get very hot, so they require Cooling. The charging and discharging rates on a car audio battery are much lower and although they may get warm, they usually don't require any additional Cooling.
@@JasonWW2000 ahhh that is good to know!
I put pc fans in mine just to be safe.
Got a ? I'm running a skar rp4500.1 and a zv6 12 d1 at 2 0hm maybe .05 ohm in future should I get the red headway or the blue 15ahr headway gonna get 24 to start then another 24 basically im gonna get 4-24 cells cause gonna get another sub or going 2 15s or 2 18s and another 4500.1 or a 10k and have a js 370 alt with a knob to adjust the voltage out put I would really like you opinions and other people's I've had big systems but ran agm this is new to me and this is my last system 😅 ty keep up the videos
2 18s
You just gotta research the batteries and go for what suits your set up.
You definitely want the red hi amperage cells. The blue high-capacity is simply not going to handle as much input or output amperage.
I'm so shocked the 1 12 did so much better than the 2 18s, I still can't wrap my head around it. Do horn enclosures have that much of a benefit over infinite baffle in terms of SPL? The cone area difference is IMMENSE!
Infinite baffle is an SQ setup. Is meant for sound quality not SPL. Horn enclosures are meant for efficiency. To take a small amount of energy and make it sound great or bigger. Couple that with the power of this subwoofer ... they get very loud.
Cone & Port sound vs Cone sound. Boxes tuned properly always outperform, BUT tuning limits the speakers sound reproductive qualities... They are Bass response reproducing machines at the end of the day. I bet the 2/18's "sound" better in the end, the enclosed, a bit punchier with a distinctive tone. I ran IB setups back in the early 80's... later built cabinets because they are easier to deal with, have good output and ya are not redesigning yer car to become an enclosure. Simplicity won.... COMPARE the AGM vs the Lithium and also volatility... touch on that too in part two. BUDGET...
When it says desired energy which is watt hours how do you know how many you need? I see you put 1200
You have to google the formula and it will explain it for you.
I have a question, can I just keep my regular battery under my hood and add a 12 volt 100ah or 200ah lithium battery that people are using for solar systems? The ones I’ve seen tested on RUclips are only a few hundred bucks and have bms built in.
Good ? I'd like to know also
What happens with batteries is that they will "suck" on each other till equilibrium ensues. Batteries are NOT all equal so weaker ones will deplete stronger ones etc. ONE DEAD CELL will kill the entire battery pack. SO it is important to get them all to be the same voltage and charge rate. Your alternator can charge additional batteries attached to the cars main battery, just know that batteries interact, the ALTERNATOR really provides the LONG TERM voltage once a PEAK is overcome... Batteries are for storage. Alternators produce the continuous AMPS your stereo will consume. Multiple alternators since 1983 here... way to go.
It's best to keep your batteries, of the same type and chemistry. Lead acid AGM batteries have a different type of charge and discharge rate and recommendations than that of lithium batteries. What will happen is that the lithium battery will rest at a different voltage than the AGM battery and the lithium battery will potentially float the AGM battery; possibly until it is depleted.
The solar based lithium batteries are not capable of outputting a lot of amperage or being charged with a lot of amperage due both to the chemistry of the battery and the BMS. Most are designed to Output 100 amps, which isn't very useful for car audio.
I wouldn't, like others have said the weaker battery will drain the stronger one till it equals out resting voltage, I wouldn't use solar cells, these headway cells are far better then the cells you would find in solar setups, that Being said a front battery delete is most common when running lithium
Bro if the subwoofer box is 1.75ft3 net Volume turned to 35hz how much is the port length is it 21 or 21.75 port 1.5 x 13.50in please help me out
(21.75) I’d suggest using a port calculator online for now on. Just Google 'subwoofer port length calculator'.
i watched some videos from jehugarica like 6 months ago when he had a couple deals on batterys i was impressed on his stress test i was going to buy one from jag but i feel like i need more info if it will be right for mw since i live in michigan and its cold here and im not sure how these batteries react to the cold
Lithium batteries are more tolerant to temperature changes than AGM batteries. AGM battery have more liquid inside of them. But always research whatever configuration you have of lithium.
Some lithium based cells can handle higher temperatures and some can handle lower temperatures it just depends on the exact way the chemicals are mixed. So if you're dealing with really cold temperatures you're going to look specifically for a battery that can handle your temperatures. This information should be listed in the cells data sheets. Some people that live in really cold climates will actually pull their lithium cells out and put AGM in for a few months.
Your link to that battery case doesn't seem to be working. It just takes us to a generic search page.
Thanks for letting me know. I'll look into it
I can't find the beast module anymore, are they all gone???
They come and go very quickly!
Honestly, I think you'd be better off looking at the Lev60f. Those are new cells as opposed to the headways which are used. I also think they're cheaper and have more capacity for their size. You'll just need to keep them compressed.
@@BudgetBassHead Yeah, but everytime I have looked them up they were always available except now
@@JasonWW2000 I just don't know a damn thing about those, I do know enough about the headways tho so if I decided to go that route I'd be more comfortable
That looks almost exactly like the charger I use on my rc car batteries. 1s-6s.. balance lipo charger....
You do rc hobbies also?
Yes I'm a big RC hobbyist and yes that is the IMAX B4 charger.
I got 96ah running off 180 alt, 4000w amp for a few years ZERO issues..
Glad to hear you're having success with your setup!
Just remember that electricity is always drawn by the source, the power available (hopefully) when the source demands it, the weaker drawing from the stronger. Copper still the best material when working with electrical connections, for now.
Solid advice! Always use the right wiring.
Me I'd be nervous of charging bank with alternator at that high amperage. I would charge slow until full then connect in vehicle
this bank is rated at 1,000 amps for charging. My alt is rated for 320 amps. The charging in the video was safe.
To make a 240 ah bank what all would I need
use the calculator on Battery Hookup and it will tell you.
@BudgetBassHead hey wassup big homie how do you get the the calculator on battery hookup lol..
@BudgetBassHead I found it thanks
*Thanx for the vid man* 👏
Any time!
I put mine in a plastic dewalt tool box and added two pc fans to keep it cool
Genius.
Come sit down under the learning tree, Let's embrace the knowledge.
I hate to be a hoarder type guy because I know when popularity hits the prices go up. Oh well bang on everybody enjoy ha ha ha ha ha ha
I shouldn't have any voltage problem with a 408 amplifier h/o alternator from autotech engineering.
That should be enough power! 💪
I got 128ah and it's great😊 but need another car cuz my prius is not that good for too much powaa😂
That's a lot of power!
Good for car audio but not ebikes
Why are they not good for e-bikes?
If you like them ill give some to you i hate them i had nothing but issues with them
Oh wow. What kind of issues?
There’s no such thing as renewable energy. Energy that’s been used is gone it can’t possibly be renewed.
Thanks for watching.
Yeah yeah were here for the positives not the negatives cheers. 😂
:/
Yeah thumper.... Go thump your dog or something
That's basically incorrect. Renewable energy is about using energy that's currently being wasted. We're talking hydrodynamic energy like from dams, wind based energy and solar energy. Our sun is just a big old fision reactor that's outputting way more energy than we are able to use.
Non-renewable energy is things that are carbon-based such as oil and coal. Once we use that up. it's gone forever.
This is alot
Yep. Thats the point of video. Some people are simply buying and installing, without taking the proper steps. This stuff is not to be taken lightly.