Mirga Gražinytė-Tyla dirigiert Beethovens 5. Symphonie bei den BBC PROMS!

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  • Dirigentin Mirga Gražinytė-Tyla dirigiert Beethovens 5. Symphonie bei den BBC PROMS! Das ganze Konzert sehen Sie hier: www.myfidelio....
    aus der Royal Albert Hall
    Musikalische Leitung: Mirga Gražinytė-Tyla | Orchester: City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra
    from the Royal Albert Hall
    conducted by Mirga Gražinytė-Tyla | orchestra: City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra
    Full Concert here: www.myfidelio....
    Die aufstrebende Stardirigentin Mirga Gražinytė-Tyla kehrt mit dem City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra in die Royal Albert Hall zurück und stellt Beethovens Fünfte Symphonie einer Uraufführung von Gerald Barry gegenüber. Leila Josefowicz brilliert als Solistin in Strawinskys Violinkonzert.
    Mirga Gražinytė-Tyla ist die erste Dirigentin, die eines der weltweit führenden Orchester übernimmt: Gemeinsam mit dem CBSO schafft die junge Dirigentin aus Litauen - "auf dem Podium eine Kombination aus Extravaganz und stählerner Gelassenheit" (Financial Times).
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Комментарии • 63

  • @Weltschmerz1523
    @Weltschmerz1523 Год назад +12

    I hope Furtwängler's ghost will haunt this conductor until her last breath.

  • @alessandraalbo7925
    @alessandraalbo7925 Год назад +9

    When you put speed in place of music understanding

  • @tommasodrigo8790
    @tommasodrigo8790 2 года назад +7

    It's terribly obscene! Poor Beethoven! Is she deaf or does she hear how she mistreated the Fifth?

  • @skymarshallmarz5573
    @skymarshallmarz5573 4 года назад +32

    She seems to do well with modern orchestra music, but this is too choppy, too lacking in nuance and subtlety. The short duration, though different, is like driving a Ferrari down the street and not shifting right and putting the brake on all the time. It does not allow the line momentum to build and sustain it.

  • @williamjackson2089
    @williamjackson2089 4 года назад +7

    No answer to the question, What do the CBSO players and chourus think of her?

    • @ziyangli5518
      @ziyangli5518 3 года назад +8

      I would venture to infer that they think highly of her, seeing that what they play is perfectly in sync with what the conductor's gesture is indicating

  • @martinwerner1330
    @martinwerner1330 2 года назад +8

    Everyone gets so excited about something just because it's different, novel, in tune with contemporary viewpoints. This represents inspired, energetic, yet totally amateurish and immature conducting.

  • @kirksmith1534
    @kirksmith1534 2 года назад +4

    Seriously? 😳

  • @ЮлийПазухин
    @ЮлийПазухин 4 года назад +30

    Shovels instead of hands

    • @balkonas1
      @balkonas1 4 года назад +1

      Сам ты shovel

  • @andreasauernhammer3374
    @andreasauernhammer3374 2 месяца назад

    DOES SHE HAS A TRAIN TO CATCH??

  • @johnstephens8585
    @johnstephens8585 4 года назад +13

    Good to hear this piece played at the speed Beethoven indicated on his score.

    • @Alun49
      @Alun49 4 года назад +7

      Absolutely. The critics here seem unaware. I think this is a superb rendition of the 5th!

    • @vjekop932
      @vjekop932 3 года назад +5

      It sounds like shit.

  • @axelx4770
    @axelx4770 4 года назад +27

    How not to conduct Beethoven 5. Sorry but she's murdering it. Pity because some of her other performances with the CBSO have been very good. She should study Klemperer NOW.

    • @williamjackson2089
      @williamjackson2089 4 года назад +2

      If you think your opinion is right, why are you sorry about it?

  • @johnevans1168
    @johnevans1168 3 года назад +10

    Very refreshing makes a change to see a different interpretation from the usual stuff shirts

    • @fredericlinden
      @fredericlinden 3 года назад +11

      And not following the indications of Beethoven ? And since when Beethoven is supposed to sound like Rossini or Verdi ?

    • @p.a.5148
      @p.a.5148 3 года назад +7

      ​@@fredericlinden You obviously don't know what Beethoven's indications were. If you did, you would know that this performance is much closer to what Beethoven intended than most recordings. Beethoven marked the beginning as MM 108. Modern performances are usually *way* slower and more deliberate than Beethoven's marking, especially at the very beginning.

    • @fredericlinden
      @fredericlinden 3 года назад +5

      @@p.a.5148 I "obviously" - to use your incisive and close-ended term - do know... You refer strictly to the tempo, I referred to the expression and sound. The first movement should not sound like a caricature, and this rendition is surely a 'lesson' to remember. Enjoy !

    • @p.a.5148
      @p.a.5148 3 года назад +4

      ​@@fredericlinden You referred to Beethoven's "indications". So go on: identify the exact "indications", if not tempo indications, which you say she is "not following". Your vague references to "caricature", "expression" and "sound" aren't going to cut it.

    • @fredericlinden
      @fredericlinden 3 года назад +1

      @@p.a.5148 Poor man, you win.

  • @ralfrath699
    @ralfrath699 3 года назад +1

    The music is Beethoven - but ...

  • @williamjackson2089
    @williamjackson2089 4 года назад +9

    What instructions did Beethoven leave on the score about how this symphony should be played? Are the critics upset because Mirga and the CBSO play it differently to how they want it played?

    • @vjekop932
      @vjekop932 3 года назад +5

      Uhhh I dunno, the notes? You can't play separate where legato is written, you can't play crescendi/decrescendi that don't exist in the score....

    • @aquifero
      @aquifero Год назад

      enough instructions, I think

  • @espantameros
    @espantameros 3 месяца назад

    Karen's Sensation's

  • @lyolevrich
    @lyolevrich Год назад +4

    the disappointment is to see that female conductors have increased the violent aggressive part which is a typical male characteristic instead of enhancing develop and let flow the curiosity of intelligence that is very prevalent in women.Good luck to classic music…

    • @Uriel-i9m
      @Uriel-i9m 8 месяцев назад

      What are you talking about?

  • @andreavela4901
    @andreavela4901 4 года назад +36

    Poor Bethoven... no respect for what's written.

  • @BalbirSingh-gr2qk
    @BalbirSingh-gr2qk 3 года назад +2

    Great.

  • @realgrilledsushi
    @realgrilledsushi Год назад +6

    Woman moment

  • @raimatat4864
    @raimatat4864 Год назад

    Brava

  • @icxc777
    @icxc777 Год назад +5

    Embarrassing

  • @franscorfrysk
    @franscorfrysk 4 года назад +32

    A really BAD conductor who perfectly destroys music.

    • @rudolfpiehlmayer6056
      @rudolfpiehlmayer6056 4 года назад +5

      @@tubagabrii but its the time having conductors with only "show". Nothing content!!!

    • @williamjackson2089
      @williamjackson2089 4 года назад

      What do the players and chorus of the CBSO think of her?

    • @rudolfpiehlmayer6056
      @rudolfpiehlmayer6056 4 года назад +5

      you heard it. nothing together. Bad bad conducting.

    • @rudolfpiehlmayer6056
      @rudolfpiehlmayer6056 4 года назад +1

      soll froh sein, dass sie so ein gutes Orchester vor der Nase hatte !!!

  • @lorenzocroci4921
    @lorenzocroci4921 Год назад +1

    La 5 di Beethoven è solo Karajan, punto. Lei è ridicola

  • @Schnittger891
    @Schnittger891 3 года назад +7

    Und so etwas darf sich Dirigentin schimpfen...
    Ich denke, Sie war Vorlage für FruitNinja...

  • @ensembleapex
    @ensembleapex 4 года назад +4

    So refreshing to see! Bravo

  • @arunaspilipauskas1972
    @arunaspilipauskas1972 4 года назад +15

    a new great interpretation.saddened are all those post Karajan interpreters.wake up gentlemen critics,after all, the XXI century.

    • @rudolfpiehlmayer6056
      @rudolfpiehlmayer6056 4 года назад +6

      ich lach mich schlapp. Beethoven dreht sich im Grab um.

    • @dominiqueberus1289
      @dominiqueberus1289 4 года назад +1

      C'est à ch... à part ça on n'est pas obligé d'écouter.

    • @tomislavbuljan7478
      @tomislavbuljan7478 3 года назад +1

      Nema tu ovo ili ono stoljeće. Beethoven je jedan jedini!

    • @vjekop932
      @vjekop932 3 года назад

      I an sorry, but this symphony is from the 19th century so your argument doesn't mean anything. Beethoven was a revolutionary genius for his time, conductors are not and should never be.

  • @geraldine278
    @geraldine278 4 года назад +3

    Amazing!

  • @ruhstill1399
    @ruhstill1399 4 года назад +16

    Ein Alptraum die Dirigentin ! 🤮

  • @dominiqueberus1289
    @dominiqueberus1289 4 года назад +7

    Ridicule. Pathétique (mais ça c'est Piotr).

  • @camelot_crusader3024
    @camelot_crusader3024 Год назад

    *dies of cringe*

  • @DH007-w2d
    @DH007-w2d 5 лет назад +8

    Très bonne interprétation, je trouve. Maestra est superbe, elle rafraîchit le style. Bravo