Understanding Modest Mouse's The Lonesome Crowded West
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INFO: Modest Mouse is one of those big alternative rock bands that came out of the post-grunge era in the US. By putting out quality music, doing interesting collaborations and never breaking part, the band members moved to the forefront of modern rock music. But most fans would say that one of their albums did most of the work for them. Their second full-length album The Lonesome Crowded West from 1997. It was a versatile album filled with everything from brooding acoustics to post-punk tendencies. But aside from the versatility, vocalist and guitarist Isaac Brock managed to capture something very relatable with his lyrics. His hometown was plagued by sudden urbanization, belief in a higher power changed to belief in a good career, and overall, it seemed like he struggled to grow up and embrace change. A lot of young people resonated with this, and the album has since become a fan favorite, despite of not giving the band the critical success that they’d receive with later releases. In this video we'll take a closer look at the story of the band during the time of the recording and release of this album.
What rock band or artist should be next?
Nick Drake
Melvins
The Fucking Champs
Foals /╲/( ͡⎚ ͜U ͡⎚)/\
Manic Street Preachers would be an interesting video. Different styles of music, tragic disappearance
One of my favorite lines from this album: “the years go fast and the days go so slow.” From heart cooks brain, something i think about everyday.
i love that song too man
Same here... that line pops into my head so frequently considering how infrequently i hear the song. Shit describes life perfect...
My brain’s the cliff and my heart’s the bitter buffalo
Goes through my head pretty regularly too. MM just feels like nostalgia. I can feel feeling I felt when I first heard those songs with my friends. We were all obsessed.
Oh gosh I think about that everyday too!!...
Modest Mouse are a genuinely good band for people who have a deep appreciation, and understanding, of music, poetry and art as a whole.
Correction. The first song on the album is “Teeth Like God’s Shoeshine”, not “sunshine”. Great video though!
My bad..
Big oof good vid tho
Hey man aren't we part of the same fan group on the Facebook ?
Daegan Jones I’m not sure man, I am only apart of La Dispute’s fan group
Lie Likes Music, I really like your video analysis. They are all really unique. I’m really looking forward to this channel blowing up. Keep up the good work.
This needs to be like 2 hours, and about every album.
There's an hour long documentary about the record by pitchfork on RUclips somewhere
I agree with you Nik
Agree
@@fionnsterr yeah but he said every album not just this one.
Ditto that statement 1k times!
Modest Mouse changed my life. They’ll forever be a favorite band of mine.
Me too, will you marry me?
Same
uriah turd depends. what’s your favorite MM song?
@@mentalvortex3569 broke hit me hard and trailer trash too. Nailing 1 song is going to be hard. Over the years at different times several songs were my personal soundtrack.
@@mentalvortex3569 interstate 8
This album has aged really well.
It's timeless
Isaac is an inituitive genius, i wouldn't be surprised if half of his songs are simply improvised.
bankrupt on selling was improvised if i remember right. he talked about it in a documentary
ASDFGidji Yup. Wrote it in the tour van as it sped down the road.
@John Stroud ive noticed he consistently likes to use bends to achieve certain microtones between the root of whatever scale hes playing in and the minor second. I doubt he even knows or understands that but its everywhere in his guitar work.
You sure love to pick my favorite artists.
Opaque Visions Believe me. It's all on purpose 😉
@@LieLikesMusic you've secretly been living in my attic and created this channel solely on my musical tastes.
Same
@@LieLikesMusic you sly dog
Lonesome Crowded West is the single greatest album ever made in my opinion.
I personally prefer the moon & antarctica but both are some of the most amazing, if not the best, albums of all time
there’s a few albums i think just come together in a perfect way, and this is certainly one of them.
RIP Chris Takino. You signed a hell of a band my friend.
WELL COWBOY DAN'S A MAJOR PLAYER IN THE COWBOY SCENE
HE GOES TO THE RESERVATION DRINKS AND GETS MEAN
Goes to the desert shoots his rifle in the sky says “GOD if I have to die, you will have to die”
WELL
little ghost WELL!
HE DIDN'T MOVE TO THE CITY THE CITY MOVED TO ME!
Modest Mouse is without question, the greatest live show I've ever seen. I'd never seen a guy play guitar and perform like Isaac did, that show changed my life.
Mark Johnson how did it change your life? Like just the way you look at things now?
Modest Mouse's music changed my life forever and this album is gorgeous. Keep up the good vids, Lie, and definitely cover MM again! You're going to get a lot of crap about the whole "Shoeshine" thing from d bags FYI
I was just about too:-) thanks for stopping me
I’m one of those douche bags. This guys just repeating other people’s words.
Dbags? How about accuracy. If you're going to make a video explaining an album like, "Lonesome Crowded West". It should be accurate.
I'm so glad you finally did a video about Modest Mouse, and especially about TLCW because tat's one of my absolute favorite albums. Your editing keeps getting better and better, great work!
Trucker's Atlas deserves it's own analysis god
One of my favorite songs of all time. Probably top 3.
I do lines and I crossed roads, I cross the lines of all the great state roads
As a fan of the band for nearly two decades(they have been my favorite band since 2004) I love this video! There are a few minor factual errors but the insights are so amazingly on point. Thank you for dedicating time to this amazing album and its themes! Much love!
Should be teeth like gods shoeshine!
busk63 My bad..
busk63 yup
Ya fucked that one up
Embarrassing tbh
So glad others noticed that. We all make mistakes though. One of my favorites glad to see it featured.
One of my all time favorite albums. I met Issac awhile back when he was touring and came to my hometown in Virginia. He seemed very indifferent about talking with me so I asked him for a picture and told him that I look forward to watching him perform and he KILLED IT. Anyone who is a MM fan knows that they can be iffy live, sometimes it's great and sometimes not so much but I'll always cherish that day forever.
Honestly I think their first LP was their best album. It was way more raw and emotional compared to any other of their releases, while still being better structured than their very early samples.
Agree, agreed, and in agreement.
You have to cover the Flaming Lips next
Do ween! There’s so much lore!
LCW is my favorite album right behind The Moon and Antarctica
Riley Rouw It's a really good one. My friend says i should listen to TMAA soon since i haven't yet.
Lie Likes Music its about as complex and deep as lcw, I think you’d really enjoy it
TM&A is great, but BNOoS is the shit
They're equally great. It's like The Blue Album and Pinkerton.
@@mt-zf6xp Do you mean Building Nothing Out of Something?
Maybe the greatest album ever lyrically. Literally. I don’t care for any other MM album but this one is just pure genius and raw musicianship. Deserves to be mentioned in the best albums ever.
How could you “not care for any other mm album” bro? Everything theyve put out is solid
@@zeestrees2780 agreed. their debut and 2000 are also extremely solid (their other albums are good, but have a different vibe)
Yes thank you! When I found your channel, I always wanted you to cover my favorite band. I am so happy you finally did!
Nothing on Cowboy Dan? Best track on the album
Well,
Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene...
@@BrytonMisling he goes to the reservation, drinks and gets mean.
Bryton Misling He goes to the reservation, drinks and geta mean.
He couldn’t include it...not even if sober
HE'S GUNN STARTA WAARRR
Teeth Like God's *WHAT?*
I literally have lyrics from this track tattooed on me, my triple take on "Sunshine" damn near gave me whiplash lol
HERES THE MAAAN WIIIITH THE TEETH LIKE GODS SHOESHINE
He sparklesth
Shimmersth
Shinesth
LETS ALL HAAAAVE ANUTHER ORANGE JOOLIUS
Thick syrup
Standing in linesth
Jeff Boxing actually killed me
@@JeffPenaify Wow I lmao'd at that and I never laugh at comments. Thanks for the momentary escape from my existential melancholic depression :^)
Shut up dude 🗣️
Like many Modest Mouse fans, I consider “The Moon & Antarctica” to be their all-time magnum opus. And many mainstream music listeners only know them by their breakout LP “Good News For People Who Love Bad News”. Nevertheless, I give you massive respect for reviewing one of their lesser-known independent albums. It’s a fantastic album, though my initial impression was that it didn’t have much more to offer than their first album “This Is a Long Drive for Someone with Nothing to Think About”, which I prefer over it. Thank you for creating this video, so that I can understand more about it.
omfg I got so excited seeing this in my recommendations, Modest Mouse is not recognized nearly enough so thank you for doing a video on them it was extremely well made and researched
Well since good news and more after...shit. uhh. The balloon album cover with spitting venom. Fuck. Goddamn drugs. They're pretty well known. some songs are even poppy as fuck.
@@MaynardOwns The baloon album cover is We Were Dead Before The Ship Even Sank, and it's one of my favourite albums of theirs. Some songs are not that great, but some of them are among their best.
An understanding music on Aesop Rock would be amazing
Man, as I stated on the cake video, you're great at choosing bands that I love and respect.
Michael Wagne Awesome! Well there's bound to be a band that you don't like coming up soon. But i hope you give them a chance nonetheless.
One of your best vids. Modest Mouse helped me get through some tough times.
The Moon and Antarctica got me through a bad divorce.
Likewise, bankrupt on selling got me through some hard times. I hope I meet a fellow modest mouse lover in my life it would be so awesome just to talk to someone about modest mouse. Much love from Southern California
One of my favorites. Keep up the good work 👌
Such a great band. Good work brother. Thanks for making this.
Awesome video man! I love modest mouse and their interstate 8 ep every song in that album changed the way I look at music even more!
Wow, insightful thoughts, especially on Brock's lyrical content. The guitars, bass, and even drums have always been front and center for me on this record. Much of the words took a back seat for decades, with a few popping out here and there to illustrate basic themes (ie: aggressive urbanization, the emptiness of consumerism, road travel, strangely juxtaposed circumstances, longing for deeper meaning amid the digital revolution, etc). You really captured this. So much so, that I can forgive the "Teeth Like God's Shoeshine" snafu. Great work.
I like them so much ! Great editing 😄
Modest Mouse have been my favorite band since 2006. I just got to see them live for the first time thanks to my brother who originally introduced me to their music. I really enjoyed this analysis, good job.
I love you, and I love your videos! You always manage to introduce me to great artists!
Hasan L Haffar That's awesome man! I'm so happy you appreciate what i do. Cheers from Oslo, Norway.
Grew up just south of Seattle, saw them live recently, love this so much
While I prefer TMAA and This Is A Long Drive, it's still a fantastic album. It got me invested into Modest Mouse for the first time, and I'm grateful for that.
Good choices.
for me modest mouse fit my persona when I was an angry cynical teenager who drank and smoked weed a lot, but honestly kind of grew out of the ranting style of modest mouse. I listened to their music consistently over and over til the point where I wore out their discography and have never been able to experience it like I once did. It's really weird, I don't think they're a bad band but a band that was a stage for me
Same here, I still respect what the music did for me but I think even what's left of modest mouse has outgrown their old music.
Iamhereblossom it’s kind of strange right, idk I’ll have a listen to the moon and Antarctica or Good News or this album every once in a while
My favorite band of all time THANK YOU!!!!!
The Moon and Antarctica though, wow.. what a sonic voyage.
Yeah definitely
Word. The Stars Are Projectors and Lives always sticks out to me
In this like like weeds you’re just a rock to me.
I know where you're from, but where do you belong?
Yessss my all time favorite, thank you for this one
Great vid like always bro
goddamn i love your vids man. the editing is so clean cut
mojo risen Thanks! It's gonna get even better with time tho 🤙😉
easily my favorite MM album. great video!
Understanding Father John Misty
Modest Mouse music always makes me incredibly sad! It makes me feel like im in some kind of limbo :( But I cant stop listening to them either, have been since middle school...
Ah! Thank you for choosing this artist AND this album!
Keep up your great work good sir! My wife and I love your videos...this one will particularly peek her interest..cheers mate!
daft73 Thank you so much! I'm happy that i'm able to create some value for you guys. Let me know what you wanna see next 🤘😊 Cheers from Norway.
he writes about traveling because he is constantly running from himself, not because he's nostalgic about roadtrips, also, truckers atlas is actually a song about his dead brother that got lost in the mountains and was never found
for a very long time modest mouse were me and my friends little secret..this was in 97 and they were completely unknown where i live..it's very weird for me to think of them as a huge band..i often go back and listen to my tapes of uncle bunny faces and the other answering machine demo's ...go find them and listen then you will understand as to why i still think of them as a small band and not one that has living guitar legends actually in their band..
Fun fact: During a Documentary, The red Van they took on tour in the "lonesome crowded west" Issac is very Nostalgic for it and even misses it.
Ok now you left me whanting more. What about a part 2 with other albums, i dont mind if this become a 3 parts video like the voltas 1
I’m surprised to see a video about Modest Mouse, especially this album show up in my suggested that was only posted a day ago! They are my favorite band and this album is great.
i created a profile to post this: it's 'shoeshine', not 'sunshine'
No you didn't, youve posted vids on this profile years ago
@@TotinosOtherBoy lol yeah pretty easy thing to check
You liar
@@TotinosOtherBoy hahaha caught! didnt know how else to express my disappointment, though.
YEEESSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
Thanks for doing Modest Mouse🙏🏻
Nice video my man.
I’d love to see a video like this on the album “The Sophtware Slump” by Grandaddy. A fairly unknown yet critically acclaimed album and band. They came out of the same mid-late 90s indie scene.
Great video. Would love to see something like this for Good News or We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank.
SHOESHINE! SHOESHINE! you gotta be pullin my leg, man! ok i'm over it, now.
I was just talking about this album yesterday!! Fucking awesome. Heart Cooks Brain may be my favorite MM song.
Man, I feel this so much. I actually still have that tension and anxiety about the city I live in. Back in the day, my good friend and I listened to this album religiously, and even then it was a theme album for growing up in Southaven, Ms, which is technically a "suburb" of Memphis, even though it's a different state. Desoto County itself might as well be the second Capital of Mississippi. Lot's of old money, lots of unnecessary growth. We tore down a Taco Bell and built a new Taco Bell right beside it, while other buildings fall down and just get a chain link fence put around them for a year or two before they're finally torn down. It's a weird thing. Now, in 2019, the old money is mostly spent, so you have people that still cling to the idea that they're fancy, but they're broke, so there are a lot of older, angry consumers just going around being rude to everyone. It's a little sad.
Do you know how long I’ve asked for this? Thank you so much
So, since you did Modest Mouse... Built to Spill next?
Yes please.
Which Built to Spill album?
Chad Arrasmith either keep it like a secret or perfect from now on, tough choice.
Yes! Perfect from now on!
Do Interpol please
Love that you made this video on one of the best albums that gets overlooked in recent music. Yet, I feel the argument you make is a glib comment on the socio-economic status of a young Isaac Brock and does not mention much of his style of writing. I think you should dive more into the intracacies of his lyrical turn of phrases and juxtapositions that highlight the ambiance of loneliness/seclusion within a realm so filled with people; at once a community so large yet so alienating. The dichotomy lay in his own subversive use of language that, at times, bolsters his argument of separation and societal anxiety but is so readily available to undercut a sense of solitude because the idea of identity only exists in outwardly reflecting terms of community and perceptions of one's place within the society. The duality can only exist if one facade placates another.
... Wieedo
One of my top ten favorite albums
OH MY GOD!!!! MODEST MOUSE!!!!
Brady Galloway Hell yeah. How's the channel going btw?
My favorite band! Little Motel is my favorite of their songs.
Wow cool video man!! 😝
Hmm... to the best of my knowledge, this is still their most highly regarded album, critically. It goes it pretty much descending order after this, though obviously GNFPWLBN was the most popular, and I personally think The Golden Coffin is a move in the right direction after Strangers.
Sometimes all I really want to feel is Love; sometimes I'm angry that I feel so angry
Saw them in 1997 or 1998 the first time live...in a concert with calexico and built to spill...what a band!!! Big fan ever since
Yes! Finally! 🤘🏽
Issac raised me since i was 5 ill always be dedicated to modest mouse
thanks MM are one of my favorite groups
Great video man!👍👍
Can you do the violent femmes next please?
This album holds up to this day.
Great pick, this album is what gave me my introduction into alternative music. My friend made me listen to shit luck knowing I’d like the fast punk vibe and I naturally listened to the rest.
My recommendation for next artist: Acid Bath or Grimes
Hey man! I don’t know if you remember me but we chatted before when you had the self development page. I’m planning to come to Norway in June and I’d like to play a gig or two while I’m there.. I was wondering if you know any small venues (cafes or pubs) that would be good for an acoustic artist?
I think the urbanization perspective is a bit too narrow. More generally, Isaac was speaking about the feeling of isolation he was feeling despite living in an environment dense with other people. He has tended to express feelings of disconnection or depression, in opposition to the feelings he has and expresses other times where he feels ecstatic and connected to others, which reflects his experience with bi-polar disorder. He's just expressing feelings mostly generated by internal factors but made more ironic in the context he was living in.
Just found your channel and looking through your videos you chose a lot of great artists! Subbed. You should check out death grips if you havent yet. Their lyrics are all over the place although very interesting.
Could you do the Flaming Lips next? 🤘
Holy fuck I forgot about this album and how much I loved it. Polar opposites was in regular rotation for years in my cd player
"I'm trying! I'm trying to, drink away the part of the day that I cannot sleep away"
Idea linked to this album: the surge of amazing albums like Grandaddy's The Sophtware Slump that voiced their fears and hopes about the new millennium and the concept of rapid change
Go project chrome! They paint the moon today, some brand new future color..
Isaac Brock has exerted the most influence on my lyrical composition, along with Connor Oberst and Aaron Weiss. Poetic, prophetic, and profound.
I've never been able to capture the mystic wisdom of Maynard, however.
Listen to Elliott Smith, your life will change
@@ianjohnston5279 Funny you should say that. Just the other day, I listened to Either/Or and Figure 8 for the first time in a long time. Excellent composer, and a compelling lyricist, no doubt, but I didn't begin to listen to him until I was in my 20's, so I think I missed the prime opportunity in my adolescence to really gravitate and conform to his style and works.
THANK YOU!!!
My town is suffering from urbanisation as well
Their cutting down all the trees and their putting in more and more properties for the lower class ppl from the ghetto
Its not good because they are very dodgy
I am struggling with change too because I have Autism
But also their erasing things from my childhood such as the tree at the park I use to climb with my friends
Mowing it down for the sake of economics and planting houses nobody asked for
you can tell that birds & worms don't get along..... MM changed my life, for real.
Isaac is a very grumpy man, but his live performance was absolutely perfect when I saw them.
Hes not grumpy at all. Hes a rsther cool dude. His band has a recording studio 5 blocks from where I live and I see him in the neighborhood all the time
Such a great band!!!
Modest Mouse is my favorite band of all time. Especially the old stuff like Long Drive, Lonesome Crowded West, Building Nothing Out Of Something, Everywhere And His Nasty Parlour Tricks, The Fruit That Ate Itself, M&A, WWWD, GNFPWLBN... Fuck, it's all so good. If anyone else love them, I started making lesson videos for a lot of their old songs and some Pavement as well. Will do more 90s indie bands. ruclips.net/channel/UC9ajSd1ZwnYt3U3KnN9uazg
As for bands you should do next, I'd suggest Pavement or Built to Spill!!
I just listened to this album for the first time this morning lol useful coincidence.
Apophis99 Ah really? That's so cool. Hope this makes the listening experience more contextualized for you.
What are your thoughts on first listen?
Have you heard The Moon and Antarctica? That album is of equal quality. Some consider it their favorite.
Understanding Cage The Elephant
Nearly brought me to my knees *DODODOOOODUDUDUUUUUU*
Shoeshine
I cant wait to watch this but I wonder: how can we understand such complexity in 9 minutes? I'll find out!