Venera: The Russian Probe on the Hellscape of Venus
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- Опубликовано: 26 янв 2025
- The Venera ("Вене́ра" in Russian) vehicles were the first to explore Venus - and the only ones to conquer the surface. Join me for the next installment of CCCP - "Super Secret Stable Rocket", the series whey I recreate historic spacecraft in Kerbal Space Program.
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Always held that the accomplishment of the Venera program was criminally underappreciated (with my own bias toward US space program). Landing and returned PHOTOS (the pinnacle requirement of planetary missions) is AWESOME.
Maybe because of the multitude of abject failures that overshadowed any progress...LENS CAP. They sent a probe to Venus to test the composition of a lens cap!
@@epiccollision so what? they landed on a planet with 90 atm of pressure, 482° degrees and where it rains acid. the lens cap was a shame and an wasted oportunity, but you cant take anything from their achievement.
Amen. Preach! Growing up during the end of the Cold War, I didn’t hear anything about this until I was in college around 2000 or so.
When Soviet spacecrafts fails
Soviet Union: A G A I N
Jeschjo ras!
yes again
Return to VAB
VAB is now gulag!
In Soviet Union rocket fails you!
the photo from venus that the russian probe made is one of my favorite fotos of spaceflight ever
The audio recording from Venus' surface is legit. I've heard it many times before. The banging noises are instruments on the probe moving.
I have heard it multiple times as well. But have you found any verification that the audio file that's circulating is indeed from Roscosmos, NASA or any researchers affiliated with them?
The Harvard paper I have linked shows the time stamps of the "noisy" events. Anyone audio savvy could have recreated those with that information and published it.
I have spent some time searching for a proof of authenticity, but the only places I found the recording were a RUclips channel and a reddit thread, none with any link to an official source. Unfortunately I did not have the time to try to contact any of the space agencies (and in the past, Roscosmos has decided to ignore my requests).
I have seen Star Wars 126 times.... So they are must be extremely true?!
@@ShadowZone This is very interesting. I'm going to look into it and see if I can dig up any more information. It's one of my favorite audio clips, I'd hate for it to be a simulation.
@@hunterm9 If you can find out more about the veracity of that audio clip, I would love to hear your findings.
Finally, another one! So many people pronounce Venera wrong, and it's finally a relief to see someone who pronounces it correctly. ;)
I CONFIЯM THAT.
@@basila33 confiyam
Akshay Gowrishankar Fake ass, sell out shill. Earth is flat and motionless just like discribed in the book you hate.
"Oh my, oh my! What have I done! There is something very wrong! There is something very wrong! There is something very wrong!" Anton lavey last words while in shock.
ruclips.net/video/AF9dWUyU3GA/видео.html
@@strongholds12 scientific research cannot be affected by religious beliefs. Btw, I don't even know who Anton LaVey is in the first place, and not really religious at all. So joke's on you :)
@@strongholds12 also, what does this have to do with pronouncing the name of a spacecraft?
The 360 kph winds are in the upper atmosphere. The wind at ground level is like 3 kph, although we should remember that said wind is 60+ times the density of Earth atmosphere.
Peter Smythe it would still knock you over !
The "Soviet" version of Scott Manley :D
Squat Manley
The images are incredible. I can't imagine how we would ever colonize the surface of Venus, but, thanks to Venera landers, we know what it looks like, and much more, of course. Thanks for the video
You're very welcome. Colonizing the surface might be futile.
But a floating "Cloud City" is actually viable. Plastic insulation against the sulfuric acid in the atmosphere, enough wind turbines and solar panels to harness available energy and that thing could float for decades.
@@ShadowZone cloud cities sound very cool.. I'd go in a heat beat ☁☁☁👍😎
@@ShadowZone Great video as usual, and the Venera probes deserve more props than they usually get these days. As to colonizing Venus, assuming the atmosphere could be terraformed, it still lacks a significant magnetic field and has days so relative to its year as to cause other problems. We can't fix either of those problems.
@@ShadowZone Docking and launching from such a Cloud City would seem difficult and dangerous, no?
When i see that fotos from venus my brain identifies them like its a some english or peterburg coutry side
That poor kerbal on Eve...
The Kraken demands sacrifices.
Nuke the kraken
Yes it's true comrades; mother Russia is so cold, we go Venus to capture warmth and bring back to soviet home land.
Siberian summers are brutal I hear.
It is amazing to me how much success USSR had at Venus, and how little at Mars. Granted they sent about twice as many probes to Venus, but the Venus proves were FAR more successful than the Mars ones. Some day we need to have more landings on Venus, I would LOVE to see more of that fascinating world, although it is very difficult to make anything work. It is also too bad it is so painful to access the old Soviet data, it is a huge lack of research for those interested in that boiling planet!
Venus is a similarly hostile environment to Russians
@@hithere5553 😂🤣😂🤣😂
The problem that USSR collapsed. They planned the same missions to Mars in late 80s early 90s, some stations even have been send toward Mars by Russia, but all of them failed.
It was the distance that was hindering their mars missionand they were missing mars orbit dueto equipment malfuntioning and signal error.
Later in the late 80s they had the tech ready the for mars mission in planned in 90s but then ussr collapsed.
I always found the Soviet space history more interesting and fascinating. Thanks for focusing on it.
This is yet another great example of the difference between the NASA approach and the Soviet space program's approach to problems. When confronted with a wall NASA will spend spend staggering amounts of time and money to research wall theory, quantify the material properties of walls, fine tune their wall models, and then invent a few new scientific fields about walls in order to become the leading experts in those field. Only then would they construct the world's most perfectly optimized, quadruple redundant, fully autonomous ladder in a room so clean you need to get decontaminated just to park outside the building. The Soviets, on the other hand, had a four step process for every wall. 1) Design new hammer, 2) smash through wall, 3) return back to (1) if necessary...but bigger.
I don't mean to say that one process is better than the other, as both have proven highly successful. NASA's "design the ever living shit out of it and make it work the first time" approach yielded the Saturn V, multiple mars rovers, some of the longest lived space probes (eg voyager 1 and 2). As well, it's important to note that they have achieved substantial improvements in their mission costs since the Cold War (adjusting for inflation). Similarly, the Russian (Soviets and modern day Russia) "iterate iterate iterate and...oh ya, ITERATE!!!" approach has yielded one of the most statistically reliable launch vehicles ever created: the Soyuz. In some ways, despite his early death and the Soviet's eventual defeat in the race to the moon, Korelev secured Russia a victory in the long term as even today the Soyuz's over all system design and architecture is based on his original R-7 rocket, while the US has not only abandoned almost all of its cold war era launch equipment, but even switched the engines on their own workhorse, the Atlas V to use Russian made engines! All in all, both approaches have shown to be feasible for different purposes. For making designs as reliable as possible and optimizing manufacturing, the Russian approach has proved superior, but for designing exploratory missions with unique mission requirements and no chance for servicing or repair of equipment, NASA's methodology appears to be the winner.
Good and excellent analysis. Agree with your criteria. None of them is better or worse they are just different and in fact, should be complementary
It's a typical Slavic approach: 'If something works, there is no point in changing it', and 'Better is enemy of what's good'. Another thing is, that NASA got lost in STS programme that was supposed to be totally different, but they altered it as NASA's budget was cut to be 3 times smaller what it was, and to meet different requirements, some of them being from military. There are plenty of examples from all sorts of businesses how cutting costs and changing requirements during a project, can turn the best design into junk. It shouldn't be surprising that when the Soviets reviewed what they new about ready STS shuttles, they considered them a completely nonsensical idea, UNLESS, they were designed to kidnapp Soviet spacecrafts and deliver them to Earth. Thus to have symmetric response, they designed 'Buran', but decided it would be powered entirely by an external rocket 'Energa', that could lift stuff without Buran. After 2000 if I remember a report in NASA was created, stating that STS in it's final form was a mistake, and had the funding been spent on development of Saturn V, much more could have been achieved than it was.
@@Comical1984 Reusability was not the issue.
While I do sort of agree with your point, that in later years NASA has got into this habit of over engineering everything, the space shuttle being the prime example.
I would be weary of giving too much undue credit towards the Russian approach of just sort of ‘having a go’ and hoping for the best. While it did achieve a lot of early success, many (if not most) of it’s later projects were abject failures, such as its Lunar program where it’s Saturn-V rival, the N1, blew up almost immediately on all 4 launch attempts (at tremendous expense). The vast majority of it’s planetary probes also completely failed.
The reason why NASA spend staggering amounts of time and money on theorising seemingly every conceivable possibility, is because (as Musk famously said) “space is hard” . That is what you -have- to do if you want to succeed, especially the further away from Earth you try and go, because as the distance grows almost impossibly large, the margin of error becomes almost impossibly small.
NASA has been able to visit every planet in our Solar System with probes which are responsible for the overwhelming majority of knowledge and images we now have about them. The Russians on the other hand have never been able to get any further than Mars. Throwing something together, and then trying, and trying again when you fail, just doesn’t work when what you’re trying to do is travel the 2.8 billion km to Uranus, where even the tiniest mistake would see you miss the planet by millions of kilometres.
13:51 its not audio from Venus but shadowsones ksp gameplay
Always admired the Soviet determination to nail this bi+;# of a planet. T-34 of space probes.
О! Я ждал этого! :)
Спасибо тебе борода!
«Oh, i waited for that so much! :)
Thanks, beardy guy!»
Lots of the respect for the Soviet Scientists that acomplished so much during the cold war, under such deplorable political conditions.
”deplorable political conditions”? hasn't it occurred to you that it was precisely thanks to those conditions that Soviet science and culture skyrocketed? why would you believe every bit of anti-Soviet propaganda about those political conditions? look at what Russia has become now, under ”democtacy”. a shithole with a dying economy and so with a dying science too.
@@jan_kisan totally, in fact they were inspired by the father of cosmonautics: Konstantin Tsiolkovsky among other facts as the focusing of communism towards research, knowledge and science
@@jan_kisan Только дурак будет искать проблему в чем-то одном. Менталитет идеологией не изменишь, как ни старайся.
I admire Russian engineers. They developed extraordinary technologies almost completely independent of the west. I salute them.
2:15 you forgot the acid rain, that is a major part of Venus
Not on the surface. The acid can only stay liquid until 25km above the surface. Any lower and it evaporates. So basically there is only rain in the upper atmosphere.
ShadowZone but it’s an acids gas. That’s still corrosive. America has “conquered mars” and you guys just sent a probe to Venus to die there within hours
@@ashtonsenko536 Maybe America conquered mars, but you need to focus more on conquering social interactions with out needless aggression.
@@mekaerwin7187 and you need to focus on thickening your skin.
@@GrandMoffOfMars Nah, not really bothered, just observing, but we can go back and forth all day I suppose...
Those explotions was the camera lenses beeing blown off, you can also hear the drilling starting in the full recording
I love the CCCP series! Waiting for Buran Energia to be made :) keep up the awesome work
"Social Thingies " always cracks me up.
2 little explosions heard around 14:00 is probably due to getting the protective caps off the camera lenses.
The Soviet Union had a long history of initial defeats followed by victory in almost every case. Weather space or warfare. A worthy and respectable opponent and adversary of the US. Now, almost an ally! 🇺🇲🇷🇺
Let us hope we will become allies and not worse.
ruclips.net/video/Ag1o3koTLWM/видео.html
Venus, a better place to live than Detroit.
Imagine a research station floating high in the Venus atmosphere!
I don't know how I missed this last year, but better late than never. Awesome vid !
No water.. No vodka..
I'm laughing my ass off. Literally.
"No water = No Vodka" that made my day)
Anyone have any idea what the parachutes were made from to stop from melting?
Probably made from Kevlar
11:48 you are wrong, the first planetary photo was made from Mars in 1971 by the Mars-3 Station. Photo is not good, but formally it considered №1.
I am constantly amazed by the Soviet Space program! How could they do this when I was only one year old? Yeah I know, I'm getting old. I write for Quora, and am constantly inserting Venera 13's pictures of the surface of Venus, when people ask "Why don't we just colonize Venus?"
In Soviet Russia, N-1 Rocket Melts Venera.
It's nice to know that wind sounds the same on other planets.
how to make diamond:
step 1 acquire a ridiculously powerful rocket
step 2 send coal to venus
step 3 return
1944
Soviet union : we have more men than germans has bullets
1970's
Soviet union : we have more rockets than the univers has planets
Pressure itself won't actually hurt a human, since water (which we are largely made up of) is incompressible. The problem with pressure is breathing - the deeper you go, the solubility of gases increases, which allows higher concentrations of nitrogen (and other gases, even oxygen!) to enter your bloodstream, which screws with metabolism and can kill you (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_narcosis#Causes ). So the pressure on venus would kill you indirectly, but not because you'd be squeezed to death.
Aside from that, great video, as usual :)
love this channel. Subbed. Keep em coming.Just please put your notes a bit closer to the camera. You looking down at your notes is a bit distracting.
I knew about the Venera missons and seen the pictures but I never knew how they successfully landed on the surface that's amazing considering the decade. I mean even now but seriously in the 60s and 70s
The audio recording is probably not genuine. The BBC made a cracking series about the planets in 1999/2000. In the programme about planetary atmospheres one of the scientists involved (Leonid Ksanfomality) is interviewed and plays a "representation" of the sounds as he says there was no way to actually transmit audio data.
The Venera landings are, to me, one of the greatest mission achievements in solar system exploration.
I have nothing but respect for the men and women of the early Soviet space program. Their accomplishments were absolutely incredible!
When is the next episode you planned?
Great overview of all the Soviet/Russian Venus Probes.
When is the next episode -released- launched comrade?
I am currently working on something else. Afterwards I can get back to episode 7. A CCCP episode usually takes 2 weeks to complete (fulltime job and family take up most of my available time).
Ok thank you comrade
Blyat! I was gonna work on my own video but your notification came up!
“No water, no vodka”
(In very bad accent): Well, better not go to Venus, comrade
Great editing!
"Crush the bell" was way to calm
So out of 6 probes sent to Venus only one didnt have its lid stuck on and but 2 of them could send back Half pictures and some audio. The should have been able to make the other probes more resistant to the hot temperatures and add like a robotic arm or a rover or something. And it they put something like a radio on it to play music or make sound it would give you a better idea how sound travels in that atmosphere.
Anybody know the function of the teeth on the base. Heard reason on some vid but can't find or remember.
Comrade when more ksp 2 news comes out will you talk about it?
Whenever I know something, you will know it soon after.
There's no mention of Venera 11 and 12? I realise these missions were considered failures.
If the Soviets had established a presence on Venus, I'm sure the atmosphere would then be at least .002 percent ethyl alcohol in addition to all the CO2 and H2SO4. Much love from America. This channel is awesome.
Awesome t-shirt dude!
Nice episode. Было интересно, спасибо.
Yes! Time for the space stations! First comes the Apollo-Soyuz meet-up, right? Salyut, Mir, and maybe ISS? I want to see your docking arm and space shuttle recreations.
Hey wait. The probe's bell made it to 26km.
So. Venus, crushed the bell?
When will there be a part 7 of CCCP. Its been more than 6 months. #shadowzone
As soon as I have finished building Mir in space in the correct order. I'm trying to make a visual construction history of the space station using KSP. Those docking maneuvers take time.
@@ShadowZone thank you that's very reassuring, 'll wait for the 7th episode of CCCP
More CCCP!
advice union socialist republics - корявый прямой перевод Советский Союз Социалистических Республик
совет - advice, hint
Where are the pics.of the Black pyramids on Venus
Thank you Russia for giving us pictures and sounds from Venus 👍
I give much respect to the Russians for all their accomplishments in space exploration. It’s too bad it brought our nations to the brink of war in order to motivate us into exploring space instead of just putting the resources into these projects motivated by pure science and curiosity. Again my respect goes to the Russians and US and the people who risked and/or gave up everything in the name of science and exploration.
Why is nobody talking about the dead kerbals?
Very informative and engaging.
Thank you.
Go Russia! This Canadian human believes you can do great things in space exploration. Keep it up. Love your dash cam videos too.
wait, it was the second of two but the second was a complete failure?
I'm still waiting for the space stations.
This guy is the only one who actually convinced to click on the subscribe button while he asking for it. Yeah, I think the Russian hat at the beginning convinced me.
Excellent video. Bell has been crushed.
Honestly, half the reason I watch this is for the crush the bell part.
Could you do a video on soviet computers used in various space probes
Everyone gangster till the camera lense be fallin
"Soviet missiles . . . . fssssshwwwww . . . Venus! American missiles . . . fsht shht . . . Miami Beach."
(Horst Buccholz: "One, Two, Three".)
360 km/h winds? You mean, at high altitude? Because at low altitude, it's supposed to be something like 8 km/h winds.
great document !
finally someone who explains the Russian space race in a good way.
I wonder as Starship becomes operational, could we just brute force a new Venus lander? Like with massive amounts of shielding... or actually, just land the whole thing down there :D
Destroy the bell like the n1 destroyed the soviet moon mission
This is a promising start to a new series and is something I'd like to watch more of. It seems like you're imitating Vintage Space's video style which is good. I would personally like to ask for more visuals of the real life objects you're discussing, even if it's just creating frozen stills within the video clips you've included so we have more time to see and study the thing being shown. (Those clips, though tantalizing, were painfully short.) I find looking at someone standing close to the camera and talking directly to me to be very distracting from the subject at hand; I prefer to just listen to words while looking at the real life thing the person is talking about.
This is already part 6 of the series and had a bit of a problem, since original footage and images with the necessary resolution were hard to come by.
Please check out the other videos in the playlist (it's linked at the end of the video), maybe those are more to your liking.
Waiting the next videos
Winds at the surface with 90 bars of pressure etc are just few meters per second
We should send a blimp to Venus.
Yeah a Donald Trump blimp!
"Our balls can take a lot of punishment"....nice.
Am I allowed to watch this right now?
At least you wouldn't feel anything if you walked out onto venus with no protection because your pain nerves and brain would be charred before they could process the pain
Как всегда интересно и понятно. I like your story about СССР. Уже давно "crash the bell"
I love the intro
Thats how venus conquered the venera probe
I hardly think that managing to get some equipment destroyed on Venus is "conquering" the planet.
and yet Venus was successfully "conquered", repeatedly - it's just that it didn't *stay* conquered for very long at all! :-D
They did conquer it.
I love the delivery of this video. You deserve so many more subscribers!
Don't forget the acid in the lower atmosphere.
It is honestly hard to imagine what it is like to land on Venus. I hope that is for real the Russian footage, because you are looking at turbulent forces, thick atmosphere and hot temperatures. It almost looks normal, the landscape.
Little talked about but Venus was also the Goddess of dying.
Subscribed, comrade
So we need specials suits containing niobium, chromium, nickel, and aluminum linings in order to at least survive the heat.
Russians are the pioneers of space travel but most people do not know about these amazing ventures by Russia to Venus as most of their information is on Russian language. I think Venus had an abundance of life many millions of years ago as it must have had a thicker atmosphere with Ozone layer and a cooler climate than now. Our planet also will be like this in another few million years, thanks to what humans do.
*Kerbals were harmed during the making of this video*
IM GONNA KARASH THE BELL!
Maybe a future lander could have a wind power system rather than solar...
Maybe the answer to the script reading is a farther distanced camera. I’m thinking of the PBS sci-show or PBS eons for reference.