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Me, having tried to learn electronics back in highschool, done a lot of practice soldering and then given up on trying to learn where the current is going to go and decided on biomedical science instead: "At least he's heating the wire instead of... No Brian, what are you doing? No. Nooooooo!"
but that would mean you'd have to go and buy more tips. I just struggle through using the one tip in my soldering iron that is horribly oxidized and only one quarter of circumference the tip is good
You hear the pad which heats the pretinned wire and you flow solder into the joint. It looks like they got a cold solder joints because they heat the wire and then press it down.
Surely they could find a person in the greater Austin area who can work a soldering iron. At least someone who can give them a 10-minute lesson off-camera before they roll this episode.
(Not to mention... pretty sure their method is just sending the exact same 5v back in nothing extra, it'd be like shorting it directly) oh wait nvm, they've probably lost a load from their arcing soldering job
@Wazaag Break-head But even if you mainline a power spike into the HDD, that would just fry the controller and possibly the motor right? Recovering data off the drive would likely be childs play for anyone with the kind of equipment that can read straight off the plates.
@@NoName-zz9ls they're legendarily well made and upgradeable (at least the non-ultrabook ones). And they tend to not use weird proprietary hardware, so they play nice with linux. There's stories of old thinkpads (back when it was ibm making them) surviving house fires and being run over.
@@NoName-zz9ls They were originally designed by IBM, so they were designed as no-nonsense, industrial and utility-first computers. Tough and rugged, function over fashion upgradable, etc. Nowadays they are made by Lenovo (IBM sold it to them), and are still pretty good, though many of the new mainstream (ultrabook) ThinkPads are similar to other laptops. The thick workstation style ones still exist.
Jesus, they could have watched a 5 minute video on how to solder a joint properly. No flux, and the dreaded "hot drop" method are to blame for this failure.
@@RICDirector most electronics solder has a flux core. You still need to add flux. The flux in the core is just to make it easier to tin your tip and wire. It's not enough to make any difference when you're soldering your joint.
Don't put unknown devices I'm anything that is yours. That's the moto i was told. But a good rule of thumb in life. Just don't put anything you find in a PC or whatnot
When they heated up the wire and then just stabbed the board, I cried. Also, when they talk about tinning the tip and then showing a disgusting tip, that was hilarious.
@@athands And then showing them heat the wire to fake me out, then melt a blob of tin onto the tip and then running the wire through it like it was hot melt glue...
oof that soldering is killing me inside guys lol you need both parts to be hot for solder to make full contact....you cant just touch an iron to a wire, wave it around like its a glowstick at a rave and expect it to attach
The statement regarding air purifiers assumes that outside air is "clean." Check your local air quality index and decide if an air purifier is better than opening a window. Even if it does produce ozone, it's probably safer and cleaner than the air in Phoenix or LA.
An ionizer will pull a little bit of dirt out of the air (and deposit it on the table around itself) But if you REALLY want to clean the air you gotta buy a purifier that's just got a HEPA filter and a fan in it. Those things can work miracles. Wirecutter has recommendations for them but there's also this pretty great video where someone puts one in a box with multiple smoke bombs, worth looking it up.
The arc is jumping straight to ground when you hold the wire to it, that's why it's fine. Also it would've been better if you soldered to the bottom of the board not where you did and also held the wire to the pad while melting the solder, not quickly moving it, which just cools it off.
Rule 1: Get a pinout schematic for whatever you're working on Rule 2: learn how to solder A USB port can go offline with voltage fluctuations ... if I remember correctly, default amperage is 100 milliamps
They _did_ say, while talking to Babak about his USB killer, that they were able to get their homemade hack job to fry smaller stuff, so it sounds like they were later on able to get it to fry the tablet and game, but for some reason didn't include that footage in the video.
NordVPN. The bathroom door guard that took a break that one time, but won't tell you about it for a year and a half. But hey, maybe they've changed... and I don't blame you for keeping the lights on.
@@thedude7726 Not necessarily. I will not use them so I can't say. 2-3 years ago, they had a breach involving - IIRC - their data transferring through a non-secured server (which they fixed). However, they didn't disclose the breach for a year and a half, well past a timeframe where their customers could take steps to protect themselves.
@@thedude7726 Which means that as long as whomever is DDoSing you on Xbox is some random script kiddie, any VPN would work. At least until they figure out your new shiny IP and put that in instead. Does Nord offer DDoS protection as an extra service?
As Big Clive has talked about tons, this is an ozone generator type. He's got lots of videos of 11v and 120v version of these ion generators that discharge ozone.
Should clarify - those little carbon brushes are there so that the high voltage has spikes to jump off the circuit into the air, ionizing it. The brush doesn't filter shit. It charges particles in the air which then find other surfaces (everything you own, particularly stuff that is electrically grounded) to stick to.
It would, except someone (probably in China) realized that it's much cheaper/easier (for some reason, probably a few cents) to make ozone generators instead. So these days most if not all "ionizers" are actually corona discharge ozone generators. Which kills germs but does very little for dust.
@@cranfill Little known fact: Monty Python's Life of Brian, starring of course Brian Brushwood, would not have become a movie without Cory keeping him alive between takes. This sparked a long lasting relationship, and with the addition of Mr. Jason Murphy, Cory still saves Brian on a regular basis today.
@@KnuckleHunkybuck Yes, yet also no! FURTHER SPOILERS (?) Had Jason said "Tyler Durden" or "The Narrator" or even just "the main dude in Fight Club" he would have been ultimately correct. Though since he named the actor, rather than the character, he's still technically in the wrong :P
Hey guys, I love your videos and have been watching for years, my house recently burned and your videos have kept me going, I love you guys and what y’all do
The best place to look for information on where the data or power pins or anything else is to look for that thing's datasheet! its a drag in the moment, but it saves a lot of guesswork. You can google most and find it in 5 minutes off your phone now
Built something like this a few years ago. I used a disposable camera flash (was powered by battery and shocked as soon as you put it in the USB slot). Worked mighty fine.
Random inonizier story. So I was working at a haunted house production company, and we had just did a show room that had 2 animatronic people being electrocuted in electric chairs simultaneously. To make the effect cooler, tesla coils were installed on the tops of them, and with the bolts of wild electricity zapping the air, it was like one big ionizing chamber inside there. There was a safety chain about 8ft from the tesla coils to catch a falling door, where an actor would glide out over the crowd from and fly around. The managers were worried that as the night went on, and the tesla arcs grew longer and longer, they would hit the chain or the actor, and one wanted to know if it would hurt someone, so he stuck his foot right into the arc of the coil as it went off. He forgot he was wearing steel toe boots, and that he was 8ft off the ground with no safety line on. He went stiff like a board, and fell right off the ledge onto a cement floor. He was fine, little sore, but gave us all a laugh
Oh, I remember these things! I’m only very mildly surprised that they still work even despite how easy it’d be to build computers in a way that isolates the ports and prevents it from damaging everything else, but such is life.
If I remember correctly that was one of the purposes of the USB killer. When this first came out commercially. Apple started using data line protection to protect from this kind of attack. Basically the port would have a special gate that would only allow data or in simpler terms limit voltage. Then tech enthusiast started doing destructive test to try and force companies to adapt. I don't think it worked but now we have the sub killer as a commercial product.
remember thats a much older computer. i think newer computers have much better protections now. At most you kill the port, instead of the whole computer
@@majorphysics3669 I found the name of the circuit. It's called an "opto coupler". I believe initially manufactures refused to do it because of the added cost but I don't know how common it is today.
@@majorphysics3669 I think it's still only Apple and maybe a handful others that do it. As Nathan helpfully pointed out the thing usually used is indeed an opto coupler, which pretty much makes sure that at worst it kills the individual port or group of ports depending on how it's set up. It essentially converts the data to an optical interface then immediately back to electric so a surge like this at worst fries one half of the converter and whatever is on the same side.
I work at a recycling plant. I've found and plugged in many a USB drive. Saving grace is that I run Linux so the likelyhood of malware that can attack my system is small, and also I have a lot of computer and electronic components to fix any damage.
@@warialinth Yeah but you're more likely to not get hit my wide spread attacks such as on the web. As most instances of Linux are well CLI and Linux does come with a pretty good firewall. Eitherway it's much less likely to get malware than windows. Butttt still there is absolutely no point in saying it's safer to use. It's harder but still possible
@@warialinth I didn't say it was invincible, just that it's unlikely for someone to put the effort and money in to target less than 4% of the personal computers out their. I also have the ability to fix any damage that may occur. Killer USB's effect is dependant on how the USB port circuits were designed. Most times it just kills the function of that USB port.
worth mentioning that a lot of usb ports have optical couplers now, which electrically isolate the ports from the rest of the pc specifically to prevent this kind of attack
13:45 I actually learned something 🤣 being a maker working with LiPo battery somewhat frequently, knowing how to find out a battery is on fire is a great skill
seeing 3 people solder a joint like that makes me realize how well Big Clive has taught us, holding the iron in one hand, and both the work and the solder in the other
Have you guys heard of 'ground'? The thing that basically protects every single electronic or even electric device? That thing that every casing and the outside of every connector and cable connects to? Why are you trying to electrocute ground and wonder why nothing is happening? (Probably because you wanted to promote redteamtools, but you could have looked a little smarter while doing it...)
I used to test telephone equipment in a former life, but I did use to test ESD discharge on devices, with the upper limit of the testing was 22kV of electricity. One phone that I tested had this metallic paint on the face of it, and the paint itself would retain a charge. The gun would not arc to the phone, but when touching the phone after, the phones paint would discharge to my hand...rather uncomfortably.
I don't recognise that specific model, but most models in that era had the USBs on the left of the keyboard, directly on the mainboard - but the USBs on the right were on a daughter-board, so that might also be why the DIY one didn't kill it.
I believe that the outer part of the usb is ground so when you try and shock it it shorts to ground to protect the important parts aka data lines. You’d have to connect to data line without being to close to ground parts.
If the modern rogue has thought me one thing it is that, if it exists it’s probably there to be nefarious in some way and I have to thank them for me double checking literally everything I can think of because it might be something sneaky that I can use to my advantage.
Okay honestly thank you guys for teaching me about tinning because I completely forgot what that did and I needed to know that because I'm doing a project right now that has to do with soldering and I can't thank you guys enough for that
I have watched this channel for years now and loved it the entire time. But as someone who went to trade school for electronics, this one was so very painful to see
Basic electronics knowledge would lead me to believe that you need to make a complete circuit and have the other data pin connected to ground for it to do anything, not half a circuit with one side connected to the high voltage and the other connected to nothing. Dunno if it would actually have worked then, but it would have been worth trying. Definitely look at some videos of how to solder as well. You do know about tinning the iron and the pieces to be connected, but the process is a bit different than what you were trying; you need to make sure both sides melt together smoothly in to one piece. Trying to heat one end up and then stick it to the other like it was glue doesn't give you a proper connection. Hold both sides together, then hold the soldering iron against them so the solder melts around everything, add some more solder if needed, then remove the iron. Adding some extra solder flux can also be helpful, but most solder is sold with a flux core so it isn't totally necessary in that case.
Hey Modern Rogue! I'm commenting to let you know that this is actually the first modern rogue video that has popped up in like months in my subscriptions and recommedations. I literally thought you guys took a break which sucks cuz i missed a lot of great content over these months. idk why, just thought i'd let you know.
"Is it a rubber ducky? Is it a USB killer? You never know until you plug it in! - Hack and fry 16 detailed home devices including the new Tesla Truck." "10/10 Would watch magic smoke escape again. - Rock Paper Shotgun"
Corry is correct the outsides are power and the insides are data (also the bottom ones are just for holding it on The reason why its not working is because its arcing to ground instead of going direct to data If you want I can specially design a USB killer or a kit for yall to make
Easiest revenge ever is to drop these things in peoples bags. Did it to some guy who beat me up and hear back from a mutual contact that he bricked his $1500 laptop. Revenge is a dish best served cold and to idiots who plug random USB drives into their laptops...
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Hullo
Been waiting for this
Finally
4TH PERSON HIII HAH
I was genuinely expecting you guys to tell Brandt to roll back the injury counter during the soldering portion!
"that looks like a clean solder"
me, an electronics tech: *sobs in desperation*
Me, having tried to learn electronics back in highschool, done a lot of practice soldering and then given up on trying to learn where the current is going to go and decided on biomedical science instead: "At least he's heating the wire instead of... No Brian, what are you doing? No. Nooooooo!"
OMG, how many times are they going to call that travesty of a soldering job a clean solder?!
Seriously. Clean your tip!
Lmao hearing that after readying this comment I was laughing every time ( a million) they said clean solder.
me, an RF tech: cringing with every way they used that iron. if only youtubers had a way to learn how to use a skill through their medium of choice?
Pro Tip: Soldering irons have different sized tips for tight spaces.
but that would mean you'd have to go and buy more tips. I just struggle through using the one tip in my soldering iron that is horribly oxidized and only one quarter of circumference the tip is good
@@thedude7726 before watching the video I thought it was supposed to be a thatswhatshesaid joke 🙈🙈☠️☠️
You hear the pad which heats the pretinned wire and you flow solder into the joint. It looks like they got a cold solder joints because they heat the wire and then press it down.
That’s a really hot tip
Man I'm dirty minded
"That looks like a clean solder"
No, Brian. No.
Right! That was some terrible soldering going on. xD
@@RaXXha horrific
Absolutely hideous soldering, the tin doesn't even melt completely lmao
Next Episode: The Modern Rogue Learns How To Solder
Reset the injury counter.
This has to be the next episode... or I'm jumping off a bridge!!
Came to be "that guy" aswell didn't think it would be covered by the top comment ahaha !
I literally just commented this and scrolled down to fing your comment. I deleted mine. Lol
You guy's soldering work is killing me.
I mean usually your stand isn't someone's hands and your solder isn't being held by another person than is using the iron
Surely they could find a person in the greater Austin area who can work a soldering iron. At least someone who can give them a 10-minute lesson off-camera before they roll this episode.
@@thegardenofeatin5965 it looked like the definition of a tip needing replacing
(Not to mention... pretty sure their method is just sending the exact same 5v back in nothing extra, it'd be like shorting it directly) oh wait nvm, they've probably lost a load from their arcing soldering job
Too bad Padre is in Rome. Would at least be able to help with that and I think would love this project.
I'd love a data forensics episode - see how much you can recover off a fucked up hard drive!
Likely the hard drive is not harmed at all by this. The target is the motherboard.
Since there's businesses who's entire purpose is recovering hard drives its definitely possible
@@da54177 you insulted my mother.
@Wazaag Break-head But even if you mainline a power spike into the HDD, that would just fry the controller and possibly the motor right? Recovering data off the drive would likely be childs play for anyone with the kind of equipment that can read straight off the plates.
It doesn’t affect data.
As a kid going to college for computer engineering, the soldering part hurt so much.
Hello kid. Good luck in school. Enjoy it. Things suck after it.
I do it for hobby and it upset me.
It was a true tragedy
@@doubtful_seer That depends on what you pick.
@@Reddotzebra taxes
Watching three grown men struggle to solder a PCB is something I didn't realize would be this funny
I initially thought. “Hey that’s a thinkpad!”
Nope, just a dell. Fry it.
A thinkpad would have zapped the USB killer
If it was, you could just spam F7
Why are thinkpads so popular? People always seem to hail them a lot
@@NoName-zz9ls they're legendarily well made and upgradeable (at least the non-ultrabook ones). And they tend to not use weird proprietary hardware, so they play nice with linux.
There's stories of old thinkpads (back when it was ibm making them) surviving house fires and being run over.
@@NoName-zz9ls They were originally designed by IBM, so they were designed as no-nonsense, industrial and utility-first computers. Tough and rugged, function over fashion upgradable, etc.
Nowadays they are made by Lenovo (IBM sold it to them), and are still pretty good, though many of the new mainstream (ultrabook) ThinkPads are similar to other laptops. The thick workstation style ones still exist.
Uncle Iroh learned how to do that by studying the water benders.
Lmao
You win the comment section.
🤣🤣🤣 wtf
Someone's been watching avatar
"The bathroom that is the internet"
That has to be my favorite internet metaphor ever
I still prefer “bathtub full of poop”
@@nejitentenlee21 That's definitely a close second
"This copy of Windows is not genuine."
Ah the old pirated windows. I see the modern rogues are men of culture ;)
Probably not even pirated. Just hasnt been activated
haha thats so you Bernard, jokes!
@@KnuckleHunkybuck Still more stable than Windows ME
@@KnuckleHunkybuck A price of a share of GameStop is more stable than Windows ME
This episode: Modern Rogue learns how to not solder!
Howd I know there would be a comment like this lmaoo
I haven't soldered since I was in 10th grade in 2012 and I guarantee I could've done a better job.
This was painful to watch.
Jesus, they could have watched a 5 minute video on how to solder a joint properly. No flux, and the dreaded "hot drop" method are to blame for this failure.
@@RICDirector most electronics solder has a flux core. You still need to add flux. The flux in the core is just to make it easier to tin your tip and wire. It's not enough to make any difference when you're soldering your joint.
"One might say it __resists__ the flow of currency"
"Currency", Brian? Seriously?
Weird bitcoin sabotage joke?
He's only saying what every hedge fund is thinking.
hodl stonks!
I heard it as "current, see?"
GME baby
You can tell Jason's story at the beginning is made up because nobody has ever possessed more than one Smash Mouth mp3.
@@KnuckleHunkybuck Man people always told me the world was gonna roll me. I had zero clue about it being fake.
Hey now your a rockstar. I did not catch that. Gotta get my game and go play.
@@KnuckleHunkybuck yup, what a concept
I do
This comment chain is incredible.
Seriously, All that glitters is gold.
I love how they’re like it’s sparking but all it’s doing is grounding on the casing instead of hitting the data pins.
The USB casing is attached to ground lol
The engineers who designed that port knew why it's like that.
As a tech this is hard to watch
Seeing Babak was nice! It was like when James Bond talks to Q, only dumberer
*English Q: helps save the world. American Q: tries to overthrow the gvmnt*
Did he make his glasses out of cardboard and a sharpie?
"don't put uknown devices in anythng you care about."
Good life rule.
It goes right next to: don't put your device in any unknown things.
Don't put unknown devices I'm anything that is yours.
That's the moto i was told. But a good rule of thumb in life. Just don't put anything you find in a PC or whatnot
which goes along with the greatest rule of all, don't put your device in crazy
Don’t put weird electronics in your butt. Got it.
@@saigyl9149 But crazy is so much fun at the time
As someone who develops electronics. The soldering hurt to watch.
Next best thing was zapping the grounded casings of the connectors hoping it would kill the laptop.
"I think I got it there in time" - after sticking the wire with melted solder on it to a cold pin 😄
Brian and Corey : *soldering*
Me(An electrician): That's not how you do it Rogues.
When they heated up the wire and then just stabbed the board, I cried.
Also, when they talk about tinning the tip and then showing a disgusting tip, that was hilarious.
This should have been titled : The modern rogue vs electronics.
@@athands And then showing them heat the wire to fake me out, then melt a blob of tin onto the tip and then running the wire through it like it was hot melt glue...
"Old Knock off game system"
Me: Ah yes black ops declassified... my childhood.
oof that soldering is killing me inside guys lol you need both parts to be hot for solder to make full contact....you cant just touch an iron to a wire, wave it around like its a glowstick at a rave and expect it to attach
Best description of what I saw ever 🤣😂🤣
me: owns a 300 dollar soldering iron for quadcopters
Them: using a 3 dollar gas iron with basically plumbers tin
Me: oh no, oh no no no no
The statement regarding air purifiers assumes that outside air is "clean." Check your local air quality index and decide if an air purifier is better than opening a window. Even if it does produce ozone, it's probably safer and cleaner than the air in Phoenix or LA.
An ionizer will pull a little bit of dirt out of the air (and deposit it on the table around itself)
But if you REALLY want to clean the air you gotta buy a purifier that's just got a HEPA filter and a fan in it.
Those things can work miracles.
Wirecutter has recommendations for them but there's also this pretty great video where someone puts one in a box with multiple smoke bombs, worth looking it up.
Found the video: ruclips.net/video/2QMsYkSknTg/видео.html
The soldering physically hurts to watch 😂😂😂
The arc is jumping straight to ground when you hold the wire to it, that's why it's fine. Also it would've been better if you soldered to the bottom of the board not where you did and also held the wire to the pad while melting the solder, not quickly moving it, which just cools it off.
Rule 1: Get a pinout schematic for whatever you're working on
Rule 2: learn how to solder
A USB port can go offline with voltage fluctuations ... if I remember correctly, default amperage is 100 milliamps
im definitely upset that they tried theirs on like 4 different things but the one that worked they only used on the laptop
They _did_ say, while talking to Babak about his USB killer, that they were able to get their homemade hack job to fry smaller stuff, so it sounds like they were later on able to get it to fry the tablet and game, but for some reason didn't include that footage in the video.
NordVPN. The bathroom door guard that took a break that one time, but won't tell you about it for a year and a half.
But hey, maybe they've changed... and I don't blame you for keeping the lights on.
@@thedude7726 Not necessarily. I will not use them so I can't say.
2-3 years ago, they had a breach involving - IIRC - their data transferring through a non-secured server (which they fixed). However, they didn't disclose the breach for a year and a half, well past a timeframe where their customers could take steps to protect themselves.
@@thedude7726 Which means that as long as whomever is DDoSing you on Xbox is some random script kiddie, any VPN would work.
At least until they figure out your new shiny IP and put that in instead. Does Nord offer DDoS protection as an extra service?
a Smash Mouth reference in the first minute, I can tell that this is a good video
I for one appreciate that you made the audience feel better about their first time soldering experiences 😉
Ha! You guys are like Facebook, I was just talking about one of these yesterday to a friend and now you're showing me videos about it!
As Big Clive has talked about tons, this is an ozone generator type. He's got lots of videos of 11v and 120v version of these ion generators that discharge ozone.
Or as I like to call them: "Corona discharge zappy-zappies."
Anyone else forget that Jason has an rfid chip in his finger?
They eluded to it in the video
@@dstrbd223 wooosh
Huh
Isn't it in the loose flap of tissue between the finger and thumb?
@@Reddotzebra Correct.
Should clarify - those little carbon brushes are there so that the high voltage has spikes to jump off the circuit into the air, ionizing it. The brush doesn't filter shit. It charges particles in the air which then find other surfaces (everything you own, particularly stuff that is electrically grounded) to stick to.
It would, except someone (probably in China) realized that it's much cheaper/easier (for some reason, probably a few cents) to make ozone generators instead.
So these days most if not all "ionizers" are actually corona discharge ozone generators. Which kills germs but does very little for dust.
I'm so glad you guys keep Cory the adult around.
Ya, he's the best.
@@cranfill Little known fact: Monty Python's Life of Brian, starring of course Brian Brushwood, would not have become a movie without Cory keeping him alive between takes. This sparked a long lasting relationship, and with the addition of Mr. Jason Murphy, Cory still saves Brian on a regular basis today.
RE: The Fight Club Reference- I believe it was Ed Norton messing with the fuse box in the flooded basement...
@@KnuckleHunkybuck Yes, yet also no!
FURTHER SPOILERS (?)
Had Jason said "Tyler Durden" or "The Narrator" or even just "the main dude in Fight Club" he would have been ultimately correct. Though since he named the actor, rather than the character, he's still technically in the wrong :P
Hey guys, I love your videos and have been watching for years, my house recently burned and your videos have kept me going, I love you guys and what y’all do
The best place to look for information on where the data or power pins or anything else is to look for that thing's datasheet! its a drag in the moment, but it saves a lot of guesswork.
You can google most and find it in 5 minutes off your phone now
These guys really aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
They were looking kind of dumb...
With their fingers and their thumbs
Built something like this a few years ago. I used a disposable camera flash (was powered by battery and shocked as soon as you put it in the USB slot). Worked mighty fine.
Random inonizier story.
So I was working at a haunted house production company, and we had just did a show room that had 2 animatronic people being electrocuted in electric chairs simultaneously. To make the effect cooler, tesla coils were installed on the tops of them, and with the bolts of wild electricity zapping the air, it was like one big ionizing chamber inside there.
There was a safety chain about 8ft from the tesla coils to catch a falling door, where an actor would glide out over the crowd from and fly around.
The managers were worried that as the night went on, and the tesla arcs grew longer and longer, they would hit the chain or the actor, and one wanted to know if it would hurt someone, so he stuck his foot right into the arc of the coil as it went off.
He forgot he was wearing steel toe boots, and that he was 8ft off the ground with no safety line on. He went stiff like a board, and fell right off the ledge onto a cement floor.
He was fine, little sore, but gave us all a laugh
I used the same USB killer on a server room at my old job and it worked beautifully. You can find em on amazon for like $100
Oh, I remember these things! I’m only very mildly surprised that they still work even despite how easy it’d be to build computers in a way that isolates the ports and prevents it from damaging everything else, but such is life.
If I remember correctly that was one of the purposes of the USB killer. When this first came out commercially. Apple started using data line protection to protect from this kind of attack. Basically the port would have a special gate that would only allow data or in simpler terms limit voltage. Then tech enthusiast started doing destructive test to try and force companies to adapt. I don't think it worked but now we have the sub killer as a commercial product.
remember thats a much older computer. i think newer computers have much better protections now. At most you kill the port, instead of the whole computer
@@majorphysics3669 I found the name of the circuit. It's called an "opto coupler". I believe initially manufactures refused to do it because of the added cost but I don't know how common it is today.
@@majorphysics3669 I think it's still only Apple and maybe a handful others that do it. As Nathan helpfully pointed out the thing usually used is indeed an opto coupler, which pretty much makes sure that at worst it kills the individual port or group of ports depending on how it's set up. It essentially converts the data to an optical interface then immediately back to electric so a surge like this at worst fries one half of the converter and whatever is on the same side.
@@jdatlas4668 version 4 is much stronger watch?v=FLkXiP1fC2A
Cory missed the opportunity to say that Jason and Brian aren't the sharpest tools in the shed
I work at a recycling plant. I've found and plugged in many a USB drive. Saving grace is that I run Linux so the likelyhood of malware that can attack my system is small, and also I have a lot of computer and electronic components to fix any damage.
Linux being invincible to bad stuff is story from far past and actually misinformation these days :D
@@warialinth
Yeah but you're more likely to not get hit my wide spread attacks such as on the web. As most instances of Linux are well CLI and Linux does come with a pretty good firewall.
Eitherway it's much less likely to get malware than windows. Butttt still there is absolutely no point in saying it's safer to use. It's harder but still possible
@@warialinth I didn't say it was invincible, just that it's unlikely for someone to put the effort and money in to target less than 4% of the personal computers out their. I also have the ability to fix any damage that may occur. Killer USB's effect is dependant on how the USB port circuits were designed. Most times it just kills the function of that USB port.
If I found a usb of smash mouth mp3s that would be a prized possession that will be handed down for generations.
Rumor says smash mouth MP3s cannot exist in close proximity to eachother, they become too powerful
worth mentioning that a lot of usb ports have optical couplers now, which electrically isolate the ports from the rest of the pc specifically to prevent this kind of attack
Aah, Jason. “At least there’s a pretty light.” Salute to you and your fellow Men at Work! :)
"I got that reference!" -Captain America
Stop teasing us and just finally say that Cory is officially joining the Modern Rogue as a third co-host
them: arcing to ground(shielding)
me: "I'm going to tell them...."
13:45 I actually learned something 🤣
being a maker working with LiPo battery somewhat frequently, knowing how to find out a battery is on fire is a great skill
seeing 3 people solder a joint like that makes me realize how well Big Clive has taught us, holding the iron in one hand, and both the work and the solder in the other
Babak's finger pyramid-ing as he explains the USB Killer is giving off serious supervillain vibes, and I love it
I love how you guys are playing king jebediah at the end!
Have you guys heard of 'ground'? The thing that basically protects every single electronic or even electric device? That thing that every casing and the outside of every connector and cable connects to? Why are you trying to electrocute ground and wonder why nothing is happening?
(Probably because you wanted to promote redteamtools, but you could have looked a little smarter while doing it...)
"Science adjacent", remember?
The voltaic arc is jumping directly to ground (the metal case around the plugs) which is the easiest path instead the rest of the computer.
Babak's glasses always look like they're photoshopped on
"Iam sure we have clean solder..."
me: proceeds to look at that horrible blob of solder
me: continues crying
What were you crying previously for?
@@PseudoLlama For my doggo
@@altfurr7276 Sorry man
@@PseudoLlama thats okay man.
I absolutely hate the fact that fight club falls into "ask your dad" territory. I'm not old, I'm not old, I'm not old...
You do know you do not talk about Fight Club, don't you?
Oy!
Don't forget about also NOT TALKING ABOUT FIGHT CLUB.
“I’m not sure it will work, but I’m sure we did it” story of my life brother!
“Ask your parents” about Fight Club? How young do you think we are?
I started watching this channel years ago and your videos have made me interested in radios but also given me a lot of inspiration for payback
Is it just me or does Brian and Adam Savage look related
The glasses help a lot
It's not just you.
Damn, these guys have so few skills at so many things. Can’t solder if their lives depended on it.
"Different plugs have different voltages"
Nope
I bet current capability was the idea.
I used to test telephone equipment in a former life, but I did use to test ESD discharge on devices, with the upper limit of the testing was 22kV of electricity. One phone that I tested had this metallic paint on the face of it, and the paint itself would retain a charge. The gun would not arc to the phone, but when touching the phone after, the phones paint would discharge to my hand...rather uncomfortably.
I don't recognise that specific model, but most models in that era had the USBs on the left of the keyboard, directly on the mainboard - but the USBs on the right were on a daughter-board, so that might also be why the DIY one didn't kill it.
Why didn't they reset the injury counter when Brian electrocuted himself? Was it because he didn't bleed?
Shocked*
I believe that the outer part of the usb is ground so when you try and shock it it shorts to ground to protect the important parts aka data lines. You’d have to connect to data line without being to close to ground parts.
As a high school student (currently on summer break, but going to be a Junior) planning on getting a job in IT, this is interesting to me
If the modern rogue has thought me one thing it is that, if it exists it’s probably there to be nefarious in some way and I have to thank them for me double checking literally everything I can think of because it might be something sneaky that I can use to my advantage.
Okay honestly thank you guys for teaching me about tinning because I completely forgot what that did and I needed to know that because I'm doing a project right now that has to do with soldering and I can't thank you guys enough for that
Those, who know Kedar Nimbalkar for Usb killer ,raise your hands🙌.
Nice demonstration 👍
I have watched this channel for years now and loved it the entire time. But as someone who went to trade school for electronics, this one was so very painful to see
Basic electronics knowledge would lead me to believe that you need to make a complete circuit and have the other data pin connected to ground for it to do anything, not half a circuit with one side connected to the high voltage and the other connected to nothing. Dunno if it would actually have worked then, but it would have been worth trying.
Definitely look at some videos of how to solder as well. You do know about tinning the iron and the pieces to be connected, but the process is a bit different than what you were trying; you need to make sure both sides melt together smoothly in to one piece. Trying to heat one end up and then stick it to the other like it was glue doesn't give you a proper connection. Hold both sides together, then hold the soldering iron against them so the solder melts around everything, add some more solder if needed, then remove the iron. Adding some extra solder flux can also be helpful, but most solder is sold with a flux core so it isn't totally necessary in that case.
"That's a clean solder.."
Brian that's the worst solder I saw in my life.
Hey Modern Rogue! I'm commenting to let you know that this is actually the first modern rogue video that has popped up in like months in my subscriptions and recommedations. I literally thought you guys took a break which sucks cuz i missed a lot of great content over these months. idk why, just thought i'd let you know.
Someone needs to tell Jason, There is literally a game on Steam called "The USB Stick Found in the Grass"
"Is it a rubber ducky? Is it a USB killer? You never know until you plug it in! - Hack and fry 16 detailed home devices including the new Tesla Truck."
"10/10 Would watch magic smoke escape again. - Rock Paper Shotgun"
Corry is correct the outsides are power and the insides are data (also the bottom ones are just for holding it on
The reason why its not working is because its arcing to ground instead of going direct to data
If you want I can specially design a USB killer or a kit for yall to make
I do this all the time! I have a virtual machine that runs on an obsolete netbook dedicated to plugging in found USB drives.
I've soldered since i was 8, so about 22 years.
I love your videos but holy crap, watching you "solder" bruised my soul.
Omg😂 that was the 3$ usb killer I built 4 years ago😁 brought back those memories 😭 i lost my pc by this ionizer thing🙏so powerful!
Best show in the world for my adhd. Love picking up should from here
Is no one going to mention Babak’s glasses? Those are the coolest glasses I have ever seen!
Easiest revenge ever is to drop these things in peoples bags. Did it to some guy who beat me up and hear back from a mutual contact that he bricked his $1500 laptop. Revenge is a dish best served cold and to idiots who plug random USB drives into their laptops...
Brian is gonna manage to cut his hand with it
Ok, wasn't expecting him to go full Skyrim in the ad 🤣
NordVPN is sWoRn tO cArRy YoUr bUrDeNs... -_-
An video on soldering seems to be due.
i love the fact He said spell it right, i've been using the same handle for over 20 years, and some get it wrong
Someone needs to teach these guys how to take care of a soldering iron. lol that tip is grot.
The modern rogue and technology, my two favorite things.
It's always comforting to find someone whose soldering is worse than even mine.
"This copy of Windows is unregistered" - you rogues!
wild that you guys have a million subs now! I remember back when this all started
When the last step of your "make your own X" project is to get someone more competent to make it for you, you know you're truly a modern rogue.
Excellent! More modern rogue!