Alfa Giulia 2.0 400hp Dyno and Drag Strip Eurocompulsion
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2023
- Let's take the 400 horsepower Eurocompulsion Giulia to a real drag strip with an NHRA timing system and see just how quick it is.
I'll also go over every single performance modification on the car, there are no secrets here. If you want a 400hp Giulia, I think this is the only proven way to set it up.
I think that at the time of this posting that this is the fastest modern Giulia with a 2.0 multiair engine ever to run down the drag strip. I could be wrong and I'm offering 1000 bucks to anyone who can prove they have one that's faster, details are of course in the video.
If you want to claim the prize please send an email to gregs (then part of the channel name) airplanes at geemail. Any other way of contacting me will be disqualifying. I can't keep up with comments on this channel, and sometimes youtube puts them into their "held for review" section and I never even see them.
All products on this car came from shopeurocompulsion.net/ 
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All the performance products on this car can be found at shopeurocompulsion.net/ . I feel it's important to point out that this car is set up with publicly available performance parts from Eurocompulsion. No vaporware, no experimental stuff that won't ever be sold to the public. Nothing on ragged edge of blowing up that only works a few times, all actual products that can be purchased and are proven to be reliable. cont:
Update, not one single person has provided proof of even a sub 13 second drag strip 1/4 mile time for one of these cars, let alone a car faster than mine. A few commenters are claiming big horsepower numbers, but can't back it up.
Greg, the Thumbnail on the video doesn't really show right. The text is out of frame. At least on mobile. Just a heads up.
@@bradys.7967 Thanks, I'll fix that right now.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles You might consider a cuy-off date on your offer, say the end of the season. I love your Airplanes and Automobiles videos Gregg! Happy Trails!!
I thought about that, but since the person has to have already done it it's not needed. I figure anyone that's sitting on their secret time slips will come out soon.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thats amazing numbers for that engine i saw some of your earlier videos of you building a small straigt 4...
,,have you seen the channel uncle tonys garage ?a former nitro tuner manily focusing on tuning cars mainly chrysler products with modified stock parts and the old tips and tricks , to be used universaly. he has mas a 318 v8 jump like hell , he knows his stuff and is worth a look,the car is called bottle rocket
This Channel:
come for the aircraft stuff,
stay for the car tuning.
Pilots... They can't stop flying even on the ground.
Sort of, I wasn't the driver, it was Alexander from Eurocompulsion.
Meh, once a pilot/racer/enthusiast.
If someone likes power/speed and are truly a knowledge expert... people will find them and be drawn to their enthusiasm.
Glad you have success here on youtube Greg. You don't ask for subs, patreons or put up ad's.
You really do adhere to what i felt youtube was in the early days! People talking about, and doing what they love!
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobilespop pop
Alfa definitely makes some beautiful cars, and seeing this on here makes me miss old top gear and has me checking when the next episode of the grand tour will be out
You must be feeling much better/pretty much recovered from the surgery. Impressive results with the Giulia, says the old, retired street & drag racer. Your car would blow the doors off my '67 Formula 'S' Barracuda (273 V-8, Carter AFB carburetor, 4-speed stick, 3:55 limited-slip) - and all the Camaros and Firebirds I beat with the 'Cuda. 15.3 and 89.7 mph was the best track time I remember, so mid-12s and 114+mph invites envy in my 23-year-old self. Alas, that was more than half a century ago. The 'Cuda was absolutely stock, and I also remember that it would (and often did, with my heavy right foot back then) return an abysmal 9 mpg. Like your aircraft videos, this Giulia video is , as usual, well done. Lots of technical stuff phrased so ordinary non-engineers understand it.
Thanks, I didn't do the driving myself. That was Alexander from Eurocompulsion, but I am feeling much better. I'm back at work now.
Very impressive... That seems like a very appealing, solid tuning option for a very good-looking car.
But it’s not close to the fastest 2.0 Guilia. Bhrvdr on RUclips and Alfa forums is much faster
@@dereksilk5281is it? I mean,not to argue, perhaps I missed new results and so on, and obviously the most appealing thing about this is that it comes as a ready to go kit,and obviously once other people buy that and further modify,their car will be faster than this - but checking that channel, the best I found was 12.40,which is 1/100s slower, at 112mph and not done at a dragstrip but on an app. Now Gregs car did 12.39 at 115mph at the strip. Which in my book counts as "the faster car",especially looking at the trap speeds.
I'm so glad RUclips recommended this to me. I've had the EC stage 2 tune and mods on my 19 ti Sport q4 for about a month, and I love it. Now I know the level of attention and intelligence that went into engineering and feel even more sure I made the right choice. I can't wait to get the hybrid turbo and stage 3 tune on it, along with the secondary cooler.
Thanks for your kind words and support. I think you made the right choice as well, and we at EC are here to help you.
Great as usual, thanks Mr. Greg!
This is the most in depth most informative video I’ve seen on these cars yet. Glad I came across it, thank you for sharing.
loved the video. As a Giulia owner I appreciate your innovative drive to show the potential this car has particularly the 2.0. I would love to pick your brain about what you think the internals of the motor could handle and still remain reliable.
Thank you for such a detailed documentary about your 400hp Giulia especially with every single mod you have on there. There's not a lot of these types on the internet for our car especially the 2.0. You're a real one!
Thanks, and just wait until you see what's next for the Giulia!
Truly, a brilliant tactical move. Upgrade ones semi-rare temperamental Italian car as far as you know it can go without self destructing, and then dare other people to outdo you. By luring them to cause their own doom, your car becomes even more rare.
To do this they'd already have to have done their runs.
@@reinbeers5322 Sure, for official competition. But the gauntlet has been laid nonetheless.
@@kosmokenny In that case... I mean, you stick a K20 in it and let her rip. It's not 'original' but you won't blow an engine.
Been watching your aircraft videos for years and only now see that you're an Alfa guy ♥ This is tempting me to replace my 147 GTA with a Giulia!
Thanks, and yes I'm really into Alfas, Fiats as well. I also like quite a few other types of cars. It appears that I have the fastest Fiat 124 in the world as well as the fastest Giulia, both based on real 1/4 mile times. Most of the performance parts on both cars were designed by my kids, who initially learned this stuff from me, which means they have an aviation sort of touch.
Very interesting and impressive Greg. Well done sir.
I love this stuff Greg. Very cool effort you made here. I blunt force trauma the dragstrip to low 11s with a blown 2014 Mustang GT myself but, this car you've made is really interesting and unusual. I don't really agree with the way you link ranges of ET and 60 foots. I've seen 1000 horse cars do 2 second 60s. It comes down to how well prepped it is to do 60'. The first 60 feet are really make or break. 2 second sixties down to 1.5 will cut a around a second off the ET by the end of the quarter.
The 60 foot stuff is from an online calculator, not it's not perfect. Now if someone has a 1000 horsepower car with a 2.0 60 foot, I would say they are modding the wrong end of the car, at least for drag racing purposes.
Love this video/breakdown extremely informative!
16:26 I lived in the Edmond area for six years and only learned about Pop's *after* I moved to Joplin. 😶
Gorgeous and interesting build.
Hallet, big thumbs up. Hard to beat the fun and challenge it provides. Only know it on 2 wheels though.
It's a great track.
Amazing video! Excellent storyline, informative, interesting.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
You got dope cars bro I love how you do plane and car stuff on ur channel
Thanks Dillon.
I like these videos, it’s also fun to imagine putting these upgrades on my poor 2002 Jeep, it might be able to break 80mph lol
I'm not really a car guy but after your terrific airplane stuff, I started watching your car stuff. Fantastic! As a cross-over, have you considered doing a video on auto engine conversions for aircraft such as the Corvair engine or the Blanton Ford 350 conversion for aircraft such as the Cessna C-172? Love your stuff!
I haven't thought about that, although in one video I did talk about the Porsche powered Mooneys that were built back in the 1980's.
Cool car Greg!
Great Video! Very interesting insights, how to do street-driving-capable tuning.
A pleasant surprise seeing you are a fellow alfisti! Beautiful Giulia, I have an '04 156 V6 Q-system sedan myself.
Thanks, I have some others as well.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Have you always been one? I know the spider was quite popular there and they extended production all the way to the early 90's for American enthusiasts.
Yes, I have. I used to make a supercharger kit for the older 12 valve V-6 and have had quite a few GTV6s. I currently have a supercharged 1985 Spider.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Sweet! Alfa and fiat tuning run in my family as well with me being the fourth generation to catch the bug. Only on my second Alfa so far and I can never stay mad at them no matter the drama.
Thanks for sharing Greg! Very nice looking but I didn’t realize these cars had this much potential. They are pretty thin on the ground where I live. Are the QVs the ones with a Quattro Folio emblem on the front fenders?
Yes, the QVs have that four leaf clover on the size. The QV is a very different car, it has a V6, a stronger transmission, carbon fiber ROOF and hood, upgraded brakes. There is a reason it costs 40k more than the base 2.0 liter model.
It’s good to see a fellow Giulia in the Tulsa area!! 👋😄
I'll wave to you if I see you.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I always flash my brights if it’s during the day, I’m sure we’ll run into each other sometime haha
Boy, I love those cars. My brother has a Giulia in blue - gorgeous car. I'll point him to Eurocompulsion. Thanks for an interesting video,
Thanks Jay.
It just lacks a manual
Thank you for your video.
I haven't read all of the comments, but I guess some key questions or issues are
-warranty expiry
-reliability issues on an already boosted downsize engine
The reliability of the engine with all this power has been rock solid. As for warranty, I suggest a lower level of easily reversible mods when warranty is a concern.
Really enjoyed this video and you explanation of specs! As good as i have ever seen in the web. Thank you!
PS- how does this gulia compare with the shops tuned 4c?
Our tuned 4C will beat the Giulia in the 1/4 mile or any other speed contest. However we don't have a 4C anymore and never took it nearly as far as we could have.
It's a beautiful car. I love Giulia, while I'm the 3 series f30 owner
Thanks for taking your time to make such a thorough video. My q4 Ti sport is squadra tuned. With a go pedal
I wish I’d known about the “true race mode” feature from EC.
I had the fake race mode and switched back after a while
I don't think I would go so far as to call it "fake" race mode. It's more or a partial race mode. With your car's all wheel drive it should generate some great 60 foot times. If you haven't already, you should take it to the drag strip. It's that time of year, most are open for "test and tune" type events every weekend or so.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I’ve got a video on my channel. Cut a 4.2 0-60 and 12.8 1/4 mile time using dragy and race box simultaneously. I’ll be keeping my eye open for more powerful turbo options. We are close but still aren’t to the point of the rest of the aftermarket with a turbo designed for our engine and platform specifically
What would you like in a turbo for this engine?
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles low, mid and top end improvement. Like the turbos offered to the VW/ Audi segment…crazy amounts of choices
But we seem to get whatever is available off the shelf that can be retrofitted to our cars
It's a bit more complicated with the Giulia 2.0 because it uses a turbo that rotates in the opposite direction of almost every other car out there. The biggest complication is in upgrading the turbine side. When we started on our upgraded turbo project there were no, and I mean literally no bigger than stock turbines that rotated in the correct direction and would fit into the stock turbo housing (the ones that were out there were way too big to fit). Thus, we had the turbine we used in our upgraded turbo specifically made, this took time, but I think it worked out really well. You might notice that many of the other turbos for this car either use the stock turbine or "clip" the turbine. That's the reason why, it's the reverse rotation issue, there just aren't a lot of choices out there.
I think we have excellent results, strong power through the range, good response, and easy installation. Most of the improvement is above 2500 rpm. My point is that this wasn't an off the shelf turbo, far from it. It's specifically made for this application. As for choices, yes, we only offer one. There are some limitations here, not only because of the "reverse" rotation but also because the exhaust manifold is largely cast into the head, so that's a limiting factor as well.
Hey Greg, I just recently heard about "rear mounted axle turbos" from the 60's. Do you know much about those, any chance on video about them? I really enjoy the quality of work you do and how detailed you get in your videos. Thank you for all the great content by the way, especially on your P-47 series of videos.
I know quite a bit about them, but I don't see it being a viable subject for a video.
My 08 bmw 335i looks like your car a lot from the side. Had an Alfa in 1980 Sweet machine
Greg ...........will there be any gun ports or hard points for bombs and rockets ????/
Next video..😂
That's the C model
I just started selling Alfa Romeos and they quickly became my favorite cars. Thanks for sharing your passion! Any thoughts on the 8C Competizione/Spider?
The 8C is one of the few Alfas I haven't worked on. They are super rare, and really more Maserati than Alfa. The Giulia is the best sports sedan in the world, I have a video with a comparison with BMW and one with Jag.
Very informative video.
An excellent video Greg as usual. Be it cars or airplanes your videos are so informative and backed up with supporting material where available and you say when there's any doubt.
I suspect your Giulia would of been the base model with the 200hp 2L engine and not the 280hp version? My 159 TBi Ti has the 1.75L engine with around 200hp. Wish Alfa slipped in another model with around 350hp for those poor people that just can't make it to the QV.
Keep up the fantastic videos and research. BTW, do you still have the Maserati?
Hi Merlin51h, thanks for your kind words. My Giulia is a 280hp version. We did not get the 200hp type in the US. Over here it's either 280hp or the 505hp QV. FCA did consider a 350hp version of the 2.0. In fact Eurocompulsion made a tune that was tested by FCA for this purpose. It passed the testing but never went forward due to what I think were marketing reasons. However it was worth doing for us because we got a lot of factory data we would not have been able to get otherwise. Of course we can provide a 350hp package today and the cost is reasonable. Intake, exhaust and tune gets you there.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles do you know what is the difference between the American 280hp and the electronically restricted European ones? In Europe people remove the restriction from the computer (pack 1 I believe it is called) to get to 280.
We can add about 100 horsepower to the European version with tuning, but to get it on par with the factory 280hp car for tuning purposes (meaning to get it much over 300 hp) the ECU needs to be converted to another software version.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I understand. Thank you for taking the time to explain 👍
From the first 2 mins of bro talking his sht about how he has the fastest Giulia , then reading the description of the video and reading further. I feel like he does 😂 the confidence 💯👍🏿 respect ✊🏿
Hey Greg, thank you for sharing the excellent work! I have been watching your channel for a long time and as an alfista and an aircraft enthusiast I have to thank you. I was wondering if you had a chance to check the workshop manual or part numbers for the 2.0L motor in the Grecale? It pushes 330hp and I was wondering if they are using a different turbo and how the engine has evolved to this new iteration.
I always thought the 2.0 found in the Giulia and Stelvio was missing a more powerful trim. Rumours are they had a plan for a 350hp motor with 2 turbos but they dropped the idea when they convinced themselves there would be little market for it. The same people took 5 years to realise Italy needed a 250hp version not to incur in the extra taxes. Go figure.
I don't have the workshop manual for the Grecale. As for the 350hp Alfa 2.0, that was in the works and does exist. I have the actual tune they were considering using.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobilesDoes it make a difference? 330hp like the base Grecale?
Great talk Greg, some questions:
1. What is your view on O2 sensors calibration to true ambient oxygen? in other words the allowance for mass fraction unburnt
2. re E85, do the Alfa injectors have enough capacity
Hi johnny. 1. There is a "blow off" valve, although it blows back into the turbo inlet, so it's technically a re-circulation valve. 2. Yes, the injectors have enough capacity, but we still have that laundry list of other drawbacks. 3. We have that on our dyno, the car itself does not.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thank you
That's a stunning Giulia there Greg , let alone for the stunning perf . Good taste in cars good taste in aircraft and i bet good taste in women 😉 !!!
Remember the Super Model that was throwing herself at Greg?😁
LOL, I wouldn't say she was throwing herself at me, she is a "good girl". I hope she is doing well. Not many people watched that video.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles that's their loss. _Some men you just can't reach._ 😎
Love it and thank you very much 👍🏻
I'm glad you like it.
I read up on the drivetrain on the 2.0 Giulia. The transmission is a ZF8HP50 which is rated for 400 horsepower and roughly 370lbft torque according to ZF. Have you had any transmission issues with your Giulia? I want to get mine to 400hp but the last thing I want is to be replacing transmissions.
The ZF should be totally fine, especially if you DON'T drag race it with very sticky tires.
Hi Greg, I loved this video, thank you for all of the information. If possible, please make more Giulia tuning videos. I have your first gen tuner and have been a loyal EuroCompulsion customer for years, despite all the flack you used to get in the forums. I’m planning to go big turbo as soon as I can afford it 😂. Also, thanks for the many Dum Dums
Thanks, I appreciate your kind words.
Thanks Greg
Excellent info on the Giulia upgrades. Do you know of any “safe” upgrades such as these for the Golf MK7 1.4 liters TSi?? I don’t expect nowhere near 400hp but maybe a 30 or 40 hp increase?
We don't have those cars in the US, so I don't have direct experience with them.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Oh too bad. Thanks anyway
As a longtime golf owner throw a 1.8t or a 3.2 vr6 in it. 1.4 liters are already on their limits and to push them further you'd need rebuild the entire engine and that takes a lot of money.
Mighty Car Mods have done heaps of Golf mods - here’s one of them - ruclips.net/video/Ed9g0LjnMTo/видео.html
Hi Greg, great video, any shop in New Jersey you recommend for installing these upgrades?
You might ask here: drivendistrict.com/ I know he works with someone who installs stuff on Italian cars and knows our product line.
Greg throwing down the gauntlet!✊🏻😬 Nice car and a top tier setup indeed.
Now,,, when is the video on how the 426Hemi WROTE THE RULEBOOK on NASCAR and Drag Racing going to be released Greg?🤘🏻😁👍🏻
Let me word that a little bit differently just to make it clear and obvious. The 426Hemi made EVERYONE ELSE get the rulebook changed.😆
That new Demon,,, 8.9 at 151😳 That you -can- _must_ buy a factory parachute to be able to put it on the track at all is insane. The good kind of insane!😇
A nice NACA duct at the front of your cars hood ramming in that cold air would look 💋🤌🏻 perfect Greg.
Just saying Greg.😏
About that NACA duct, we considered it. About the only way we could improve our V4 intake involved cutting holes in the car to feed it. We decided against that.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles That's a shame. I figure there are quite a few folks out there that would love to be able to go one step further on their build. Yeah, it would probably be expensive but as the old sign on the garage says,,,
_Speed costs. How fast do you wanna go?_
Another video idea would be a history on Drop Tank Speedsters. That would be a nice crossover for you!😁
You da man Greg.😉👍🏻
Beautiful car, i tend to like it more in pearly white, but to each his own :)
Thanks, I think they look good in every color. It really is a great car.
The E85 part reminded me of my old Cobalt SS. I always had my laptop with me. Lol. It was a pain in the ass that I would also recommend avoiding.
I agree. While E-85 can be great it's often not worth the trouble.
@Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles you do get most of the e85 benefits as low as 40%. Lower than 40% and it starts to become less useful. It's definitely something to consider if you want everything out of the motor for performance.
Are those 2.0s direct injection only? That was always a big problem and why I had to mix 91 and e85 to get an e47 blend. I couldn't physically get enough fuel into the cylinders with the cobalt. It was direct injection only and the pulse window was far too short... even at full duty cycle. I'm not sure how the tuning on the Giulia is though
The Giulia is direct injection. The benefit from E-85 is mainly octane. Compared with gasoline of the same octane rating it's main advantage is cost.
Definitely need a video on Italian WW2 fighters now.
I do really want to do that.
Yes please, I second that request!
Nice video... NICE Car... @ 9:45 are those Weathertech floormats?
Nope, although Weathertech has some good stuff.
Thank you
Great deep-dive into the systems on this car - hard to find much good tech info. I have a Stelvio QV and have been thinking about fitting water-meth once out of warranty. Have you done any investigation on this, or have parts to suit? For limited duty cycle of road driving I thought it would be a good solution to intake temps. thanks.
I have used water:methanol on various cars, but haven't on the QV. It's a good candidate for it. Whatever questions you have about it I or some of the others at EC can answer.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thanks, will do - love the aviation vids - I fly also, ex-mil, but mostly UNL competiton aerobatics now in a Giles G-200.
Curious, what is the max boost you are running? I notice your boost gauge only goes to 30 in-Hg (14.7 psi).
Love my 2018 Q4!
This set up goes to about 28, it can run at least 32. We offer both 30 and 45psi gauges. My car actually has a 45psi gauge because of some of the testing we do with it.
You can actually aquire the second exchanger for the Stelvio. It fits right inside bebind radiator.
I don't know what you mean. All US spec Stelvios have the second heat exchanger from the factory. We offer a larger replacement for that factory heat exchanger in the Stelvio. In the case of the Giulia we offer a stand alone additional heat exchanger. You can't locate it where the Stelvio does because of the brake cooling duct, and you certainly can't put it behind the radiator, that would make it put heat into the coolant.
Greg - not sure if you recognize my name from your airplane videos. I’m have an interesting idea for a mod. Is there any way I can reach you directly? I’m on your Patreon too.
Sure, fire a message to me on Patreon.
Have you thought about also stroking the engine and doing the internals? Interested to hear. Also how much would this build cost in total from EC? I don’t see this all in one kit.
Pricing is at eurocompulsion.net . It's not all in one kit, but all the components are there. I probably will build an engine with upgraded internals.
Impressive performance. Especially appealing since its lighter than my Quadrifoglio.
Thanks. A Quad will beat it nine out of ten times, but if you line the two cars up at the dragstrip and the Quad driver has a bad launch and my car has a good one, they are close enough so that it could go either way. One advantage of the souped up 2.0 is that it's much easier to maintain than the Quad. At Eurocompulsion we are working on an even faster combination of mods for this car, but I'm not allowed to give out specifics just yet.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles you got me on the maintenance point. It’s very expensive for out of pocket repairs.
I’d love to see actual driving content with the car
Great video, do you know if the mishimoto liquid chill can be used in the low temp turbo coolant for the intercooler system?
Thanks. I haven't used it so I can't say much about it. I can say that with the stock ECU tune it won't do much if anything because the intercooler temperature is regulated by the ECU and it won't let it drop as much as it can anyway, so best case it will just run the intercooler pump less to maintain about the same target temperature. However on an ECU tuned car that's set up to run lowest possible temps it should work, in theory. Again I have to stress that I haven't tried it and there are a lot of performance parts on the market for these cars that don't work. I think that's a big part of the reason so many vendors out there don't publish drag strip times.
These cars are such sleepers. Can be had for less than 20k used with relatively low miles. Where can you get this kind of car for that little cash? I think I need one.
Hey nice GTV6!
Thanks, that's Alexander's GTV6. He works at Eurocompulsion and owns a number of older Alfas.
I personally love the 4C
For everyone in the video; @20:45 would you have a link or a name for the turbo boost gauge. I'd love to purchase the one you provided
shopeurocompulsion.net/collections/alfa-romeo-giulia-2-0l-interior/products/vaitrix-boost-gauge-45psi-plug-play-alfa-romeo-giulia-stelvio-2-0l
It would be awesome to see flexfuel be available for the 2.0. I'm not sure what sensor you could sacrifice for the input like on other cars flexfuel sensor kits.
It's just not an option on this car for several reasons.
Don't know the displacement / weight comparisons but those are '63 Super Stock figures.with less than a third of the displacement. But I'm not surprised. I was surprised back when VW VR6s were approaching those ETs within a couple seconds and matching the top speed. Progress marches on.
It's pretty incredible how far we have come. This thing is an honest mid 12's car all day long and gets 35mpg on the highway with four people in air conditioned comfort.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I still liked watching the fuelers in the smoke run era though. I had a 354 that we pulled out of a 56 new Yorker and would dream about building one before it became cost prohibitive. But when they started advancing the timing on the 426s those came alive and I knew it was over for that HS dream. You just couldn't get away with that on the older Hemis. Then they started pulling half the clutch springs out and it became carnage anyway. Now they probably have some rear engine 2 liter thing crossing the stripe all clean and smokeless in about half the time and twice the speed, lol..
This video may have changed my thoughts on Eurocomplusion.
I believe it's possible for a ethanol sensor on the fuel rail, and a injector controller hooked to it?
Possible, yes.
Know of any shops in Seattle area that install these components?
Sure, Group 2 can do it.
Is it possible to replicat the water methenyl injection from ww2 for use in a car engine?
Sure, my Fiat 124 has that.
Always wondered if it was possible.
Pog
You're first Skink, good job.
How do the 2.0l drivetrain, gearbox and diff, hold together with 400hp?
If the 2.0l gasoline Giulia had been delivered with a manual gearbox I would have bought one years ago. I'm an old guy and "grew up" with a 200hp Opel Manta B with Quaife straight cut gears and Quaife diff. No need for a hifi system in that car 🙂
I like the Open Manta, except for the valve layout. The way the put the cyl 2 exhaust valve right next to cyl 3's makes for a real hot spot there. Anyway, the drivetrain stuff in the Giulia is good to over 500hp, so it's not a problem.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles The ultimate Manta B is the Group B 400 with a 16 valve crossflow top. In the beginning of the 80'ies the Manta 400 was faster than the Group B Porsche 911 3.0 SC in the European Rally champs that only allowed 2wd cars. See Ari Vatanen "Dear God!" on YT to see a 400 in full flight. ruclips.net/video/cxDz0Z066NI/видео.html My Manta was a 400-clone with 2.4l 2-valve built with support and parts from ENEM in Sweden.
Ah, that makes sense. I never saw that type. I was speaking about the 1.9 liter version we had in the USA.
Hi, A great video. Where can I buy a good octane test kit? Who do you think makes the best kit?
The kit I mentioned doesn't test octane specifically, it's tests for ethanol content. In other words it tells you if it's E-85, or E-50 or whatever.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles hi, You seemed to say there were portable octane testers available- that is what I am looking for
I understand why you would think that, but it's not what I said. The entire discussion was about telling the difference between E-85 and lower octane ethanol blends. The lower blends will have less octane, but that's not what the test is actually looking at.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles thanks for your reply. are you aware of a portable octane tester?
Hi Sam, no, I am not and I don't think such a product could exist, but that's based on my very rudimentary understanding of chemistry. There are probably a lot of others here who could comment on this more intelligently than I can.
So basically this car traps the same speed and time as a 2024 gt mustang, that’s crazy!
Yes, it's pretty close.
Impressive getting 400 hp luv my giulia stock, but maybe later I’ll do the squadra tune with the hybrid turbo.
The Squadra tune and turbo are inferior to the EC stuff, that's why they don't have a real drag strip 1/4 mile time that's even in the 12's, at least not that I have seen.
Greg, does your car retain its catalytic converters...on the track = )
Yes, the car has a catalytic converter and all the other factory emission controls are in place and working. The car's emissions are as good as stock and better in some situations.
Does the stage 2 upgrade work with the 2019 as well?
Everything I showed in this video will work for the 2019.
Will all of the above work on the ti awd?
Absolutely, and it will be even quicker in the 1/4 mile.
That’s one mean ride, dude. How’s the maintenance?
It's perfectly reliable and normal servicing is pretty easy. I haven't had to do too much, oil changes, brakes, I changed the accessory belt, it didn't need it, but I did it anyway. It's all been quite easy.
Gregg, are you or your kids linked to Eurocompulsion? I’ve installed their heat exchanger and go pedal on my 22 SQV. Love them both. Im currently looking for an ecu tune…I’m looking at the Squadra Massimo tune but have also considered the EC tune. I’d feel better about going with the EC tune if you or your family were linked to the engineering of EC😊
I am part owner of Eurocompulsion. The other owners are all members of my family and my kids do most of the development work. All our tuning is done in house. The QV tunes are a bit difficult because it's very hard to remove the ECUs. The 2 liter cars can be flashed through the OBD 2 port, but not the QVs.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles absolutely love your RUclips channel (FW190 is my Fav plane). I did the first fitment of your heat exchanger on a Stelvio QV ….worked with Jordan and provided install info on differences from the other Alfa’s. I’m putting together an email right now with questions on the QV tune that I’ll send to EC. Thanks for all your hard work, incredible content and more QV parts please👍
Thanks. Jordan is my son, and he designed the upgraded heat exchanger. He does most of the intercooling and intake design work. My company used to be a supplier to Eurocompulsion, we supplied tuning solutions, intakes and intercooling. A couple years ago we bought out Eurocompulsion so now we run the whole operation, which is actually pretty small, about six people.
Just purchased the V1 intake for the Stelvio Quad👍
Theres a draggy run online of 400 hp hybrid turbo. 12.42@112 or 113 mph. And in S FL to boot. His 0-60 is 4.3 sec. Rwd car.
I honestly don't care about phone apps. As I said, they are just so easy to fake and are susceptible to more errors. If you took that car you mentioned to the track I have doubts it would even run in the 12s, it's probably a 13.1-13.3 car.
Might be interested in that v4 intake now….up until this point, all the intake were just noise and show
Um,,, is the 1/4mi times on a 1,320’ strip or on a 1,000’ that top fuel uses these days?
These times are for a 1/4 mile, 1320 feet.
There is a kit that can be test the E automatically, its installed inline.
Yes, as I said some cars have that from the factory. The greater issue is that the Alfa ECU can't take that information and do anything with it, so you really have to test it before you put it in the car and then dial it back so you don't blow the engine.
Can this exact setup with the same parts be done on a Stelvio?
Good question. Not exactly, the V4 intake is not available for the Stelvio, the exhaust would have to be different as well. For the Stelvio, use the Eurocompulsion V2 intake turbo, and tune and it will be very close to the same horsepower.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Just as an FYI, Eurocompulsion has a video on the V4 specifically and I did ask the the question in the comments section if the V4 will specifically fit the Stelvio even though it only specifies the Giulia and according to them, they confirmed that it would.
how much did you put into modifications wondering if it is worth buying this or a BMW
I think the Alfa is better, although I suppose it depends on which BMW we are talking about. All the prices are on eurocompulsion.net.
What Springs? Any other suspension mods?
I covered exactly that in the video. The suspension is stock.
That may be the most crowded engine compartment I’ve ever seen
You should see the version with the 2.9 liter V6. Actually the 2.0 isn't bad at all, it's pretty easy to work on by modern car standards.
Didn't know they sold Giulias in the US
Stellantis seems to be keepingit a secret.
WOW! Can that 2.0 be swapped into a 4C?
It's not practical, we would have an easier time building a 400hp 4C engine.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Thanks - I just thought the increased displacement would give a noticable in torque off the line... Is there a difference in the redlines of the two engines?
The 4C engine revs higher, it already has a top tier engine.
Anything can be done with enough money
Wow, what was 0-400m time?? 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
slightly less as 400 meters is about 3 meters less than a 1/4 mile.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles yes… true … so what’s the 1/4 mile time on this ??
I have a Giulia Veloce 2018 model 👍🏽
I'm not sure I'm understanding your question. I put up at least six quarter mile times in my video. All from my car in this same configuration over a two day period. It runs mid 12's easily. If you are asking what a stock 2018 does, the U.S. spec 280hp version does about 13.8 to 13.9. The best magazine time is 13.6, but most of the others are in the high 13s. The slowest I have seen from a magazine is 14.1.
You need to take into account gbe weather too. If temps are over 75°F, that Alfa is not going over 110 mph.
We do take that into account, the data is literally on the time slips. All runs were in less than ideal conditions. On a standard day the car would be faster.
I run wmi in my n54, it works well
I do like water injection, but at this time I don't have it on this car.
what did this complete build cost?
All the products are at eurocompulsion.net . As pricing changes from time to time, I'm not going to add it up and put it in a post because 6 months from now someone will call and say I quoted some lower price.
Is this on the RWD or AWD 2.0T?
It's a RWD NON LSD car.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles can this be done to the awd version? Or would it wreck it? Bugs me that the 2.9 Stelvio launches better simply because of tire grip. 😅
If only the giulia came in a manual. That car needs an honest to god three pedal box. I would have upgraded to it from my E46
I hear you loud and clear. However the manual gearbox Giulia isn't sold in the US, only outside of the US. Sadly over here our youngsters don't even want to steer, they certainly don't want to shift.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles if the manual version exists... a swap is possible. Hmm sounds like an appealing option once prices have bottomed out
Did you say 462 lb•ft out of a 2.0l Alfa?. It is an alfa so I would definitely be worried it was gonna explode every time. That would be true if it made 175hp tbh
It's built to take that. We have been running this configuration for a year, on the road, at the dragstrip and at the racetrack in the heat of the summer.
modern alfa romeo's are pretty reliabke
Mr Harper do some research about these engines.....