Can you beat C10-Acrobatic WR with a low input strat?

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2025

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  • @rezalic
    @rezalic 20 дней назад +27

    Now beat a01 wr with lis gogo🔥

    • @Sealdoge
      @Sealdoge 18 дней назад

      This ages very well with the new cut

    • @rezalic
      @rezalic 18 дней назад

      @Sealdoge lis to get the back wheel lift hold ooooon

    • @vonix9199
      @vonix9199 11 дней назад

      ​@rezalic did anyone even do it with TAS?

  • @Bartsims-ek4gs
    @Bartsims-ek4gs 19 дней назад +7

    0:57 fart noise

  • @anonym5160
    @anonym5160 19 дней назад +4

    I like such TAS ideas

  • @snakephil7921
    @snakephil7921 15 дней назад

    He`s destroying every map, w** dude, good job man!!!

  • @smbfelix9470
    @smbfelix9470 19 дней назад +10

    When does a LIS become a normal strat/run. When we are already at the point that a 7 input starttrick is considered a LIS. Sure, one can repeat these same timed inputs over and over, but this just feels like a strat, not a low-input strat. I hope you understand what i mean, the line is just so thin between LIS and a normal thought through strat.

    • @spitfirex2599
      @spitfirex2599 19 дней назад

      its mainly about the fact that someone went through the effort to find a set input chain to find a specific result

    • @liepshene2
      @liepshene2 19 дней назад

      I would expect on a map like this for it to be considered ""Low Input"" It would need to be around 8 inputs maximum. It feels like there is a termonology missing for strats that have a time basic input as opposed to being a low input strat

    • @pastagrows
      @pastagrows  19 дней назад +2

      At this point the name should be something like "knew inputs beforehand strat", and that is probably the main issue for many.
      If you had to do 6 inputs start + end manually here, it is by no means easier than normal run.

  • @VIUN_RL
    @VIUN_RL 20 дней назад +9

    Very random comment, but I think there's potential for lis to exist in C03 too. What do you think?

    • @pastagrows
      @pastagrows  20 дней назад +5

      It also crossed my mind, but even TAS is only 0.08 ahead, and with time losses you get with LIS due to not optimal lines, it likely won't work.

    • @DoktorDreistein
      @DoktorDreistein 19 дней назад +1

      @@pastagrows try the shortcut

  • @thund3r0904
    @thund3r0904 20 дней назад +4

    maybe an lis for the lower air time reduction at cp1 on a05 can be possible

    • @Lexio0o
      @Lexio0o 19 дней назад

      💀💀

  • @Evan-Delauney-Meyer
    @Evan-Delauney-Meyer 12 дней назад

    I think a lis start then normal end is the best. Maybe a 3-4 input start could give you enough attempts for a wr in a reasonable amount of time

  • @UI-4054
    @UI-4054 11 дней назад

    remember u on LHL server)

  • @indomitablesloth2437
    @indomitablesloth2437 16 дней назад

    Could you LIS the track by using the WR going-backwards route, or is that not possible?

    • @pastagrows
      @pastagrows  16 дней назад

      Yeah that could work too, finding inputs to do reverse start slightly faster. However, it could require same amount of inputs as overwall for potentially even smaller advantage.

  • @Mandarin9900
    @Mandarin9900 19 дней назад

    Do you think LIS runs should be part of the leaderboards? Runs done with outside timer help should be disallowed? I'm genuinely asking because of curiosity, and it's my fault for not being able to ask in a way that isn't a loaded question. Thanks.

    • @pastagrows
      @pastagrows  19 дней назад +1

      It's a tough one. LIS is something like the final evolution of many speedruning games, where WRs are so optimized that you need to copy TAS to improve. But I don't think LIS in this game is actually the fastest because of its limiting factors. In the end, separate categories is an okay solution.
      I don't think any outside software to help you hit the timings should be allowed. Part of doing LIS in TM is analysing the track and finding the best visual and audio cues to increase your chance of hitting the input.

    • @Mandarin9900
      @Mandarin9900 19 дней назад

      @@pastagrows I agree with everything. Thanks for framing it in a better way than I could.
      All is the question now, how can slower, but LIS runs be policed on the leaderboard. For example if a slower LIS time is submitted to the normal leaderboard on purpose, but not recognizable immediately

    • @Mandarin9900
      @Mandarin9900 19 дней назад

      @@pastagrows Also, what do you think of allowing LIS runs to flood the leaderboard? Should there only be one, whoever makes it first and whoever comes up with the timings first? Or could everyone be on the leaderboard with the same strat?

    • @pastagrows
      @pastagrows  18 дней назад +1

      @@Mandarin9900 The current solution is just not accepting runs that have 8 or less inputs. Which works well unless map is too short and even normal run could have a lower number of inputs. This filters it out, but in general, LIS run is easily spotted by intentionally not doing optimal lines.
      Some people were saying that leaderboards would be filled with a same time runs. However, that is not true, because you can almost always add more inputs to LIS to make it faster.

    • @Mandarin9900
      @Mandarin9900 18 дней назад

      @@pastagrows thanks again, I figured that would be the case

  • @l0gica
    @l0gica 19 дней назад

    pasta this is one of the tracks i wanna go for when im done with A12, so pls dont do this 😭 jk gogo

  • @Anthonythechickenman
    @Anthonythechickenman 14 дней назад

    please no