The implication is so real with this series. They leave things ambiguous on purpose to add layers on it later on to make it even more convoluted than it already is
I think pure light are as dangerous as a pure darkness, in FF14 we had a whole world the suffered a calamity(apocalypse) becouse there was too much light, i think the same can be said for KH, balance is important, that's why Sora having a Anti/Shadow form and Riku being in the middle, for me, it's awesome, both had this balance and that's why both of them are as powerfull as they are
From what I can tell the Master of Masters is an example of the phrases "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions" & "The ends justify the means"
So something interesting is in cosmic themeing. Sora is the moon. Riku is the sun and we could say that whoever made the heart shape with their hands is actually not after kingdom hearts. But Sora's heart
Is funny when you put into it. Since there is an secret, where in kh1 for going into the “secret waterway” at (traverse town) when talking to Kairi of the two seens an art 🖼️ wall that resemble the sun ☀️ and when Sora come across the sun wall it turn into an Navi-gummi piece, of the sun back into an moon 🌙 wall. Pretty fun scene , if I do say so myself 😊.
I have a random theory that I have about Demyx’s could possibly be the MoM’s: the MoM’s HAS to be somebody we’ve already seen, or he’s somebody WILL see in the future. There’s no point in hiding his identity if it’s someone we don’t know or haven’t seen. That’s part of why the Luxu reveal worked as well as it did. The reveal simply wouldn’t carry as much weight if the hood finally came off and it was someone we’ve never seen. Nomura has gone to great lengths to keep the MoM’s true name and face a secret, and that’s because it’s most likely someone we’ve already seen or will see in the future! Now, we move onto the real meat of this theory. I’ve noticed that the MoM’s and Demyx have similar personalities. Both are laidback goofballs that crack jokes as often as they can. Both of them even appear to have a slightly cowardly nature, or at least an aversion to conflict. Demyx outright states he doesn’t like fighting, and we haven’t seen the MoM’s fight yet. In fact, I don’t think it’s even implied that the MoM’s has fought anyone or anything at all. He has a Keyblade, but whether or not he’s actually ever used it in combat has yet to be seen or stated. The MoM’s even states that he’s too much of a “scaredy-cat” to take his coat off to Young Xehanort in KH3:ReMind. He could have been joking, but taken at face value, his personality lines up with Demyx’s pretty well. What brings this theory together is that we still don’t know what Demyx’s “Keyblade secret” that Xemnas was referring to is. We DO know that both Marluxia and Larxene were Keyblade Wielders during the events of UX. It’s possible that Xemnas was referring to more than that, but even if he wasn’t, the very fact that Marluxia and Larxene were Keyblade Wielders at all is still a fairly hefty bomb to drop. As for Demyx, his secret has yet to be hinted at. We could assume that it’s the same as Marluxia and Larxene, but UX ended without any confirmation that Demyx had even been born at that time, let alone was a Keyblade Wielder. We still don’t even know what Demyx’s true name is. All of this leads me to believe that Demyx is a fairly plausible candidate for the MoM’s. Is there a possibility this theory is true? Probably not, but it’s just a feeling I have.
Problem is Demyx and the MoM don't have the same body type. We can literally see it thanks to their coats. Demyx's shoulders and arms are more petite than the Master's
"There’s no point in hiding his identity if it’s someone we don’t know or haven’t seen." Well they did with Vanitas.... maybe Mom will simply have Sora's face or someone else?
Nomura is changing the story and supposedly making it easier for people to get into with KH4 in which I think is a copout for he doesn't know what the hell he's doing with his own story. 👀I think what would've been the greatest twist and mind blowing thing of this entire story so far would be if Sora was the Master of Masters from the far future and became that way because he couldn't save Kairi or Riku from the darkness itself.
"Nomura is such a bad writer. This story would be way better if he makes the fan-fiction tier plot twist that Reddit has gaslit me into believing could be this generation's Luke, I am your Father canon." - Literally you
He can’t time travel to a point where he never existed based on the rules of time travel, not without a medium and someone with memories of himself. It’s impossible for Sora to be MoM.
For a long time now I have sensed the master can impersonate others, what the functions of these coats are I believe is to shapeshift. What if he could sound like another character? There is a scene in KH2 with Xigbar talking to Zexion in a hallway that I am positive is actually the master. The hood never comes off and his mannerisms are almost identical to this scene. Clearly he is also in the secret movie we first saw the BBB sleep crew in as well, before he suddenly looks like xehanort. We see the term lost master in this same secret movie as well.
The power of darkness grants the ability to cast illusions and impersonate anyone’s appearance or voice. DiZ does this in COM. We know MoM can use powers of both darkness and light from KHUX. I think you’re absolutely correct and MoM has been hiding in plain sight for the entire series. As whom? Well… I think Ansem the Wise (he makes a coat out of thin air too among many other similarities), but MoM could also shift into anyone…. Who knows who he could be masquerading as? Maybe even the scene you mentioned (or that’s just Luxu mimicking MoM, as he tends to do).
And The Children that died in the Keyblade War. A mass Murder for what? Devoure Daybreak town? The Master of Masters ever think about a safety plan for them? Or are they die forever?
Something to remember with Eraquas though is when he realized what he did with Terra and Ventus there was a flicker of darkness that came out of him right when he died and transfered his heart to Terra.
I try to focus on the flow of characters, such as the og keyblade weilders, they fell to sleep, became dream eaters went to sleeping worlds their keys left in the graveyard buuut in kh3 we see sora use a link command that summoned them all, later in same game he summoned all their keys to help aswell. So what would it take to recover them to their original forms?
After watching this. Does there have to be a single master of masters? Where does it state that there can't be more than one? What if there is two: themself and their nobody? One playing for the dark, one for the light?
@@TheOneAndOnly2000K Yeah. You can't just pull whatever plot developments you want out of a hat and say it's a plot twist. Every good plot twist needs a hefty amount of foreshadowing. Xigbar being Luxu isn't a good plot twist because it's shocking and unexpected. It's a good plot twist because you can go replay all the previous games and see that Xigbar was *always* Luxu.
@@Triple33Threat KH3's story was fine, or at the very least didn't have any problems that weren't present in KH2: Namely that 80% of the run time is filler and basically the entire plot is backloaded into the last few hours. It certainly didn't have a problem with "bad plot twists." Nah the problem with KH3 was the gameplay. The wind-up and/or ending lag on some of your moves is ridiculous, especially if you spam keyblade transformations like the game clearly wants you to. When you need NG+ abilities and DLC equipment just to achieve the same level of quality as was present in KH2, you have a problem.
@Triple33Threat Isn't it exhausting to be so assured that you're the smartest person in the room that if someone has an opinion about a children's video game you disagree with you immediately assume they're mentally deficient in some way? I had that mentality when I was in my late teens and early 20's and I certainly found it exhausting.
@@Triple33Threat Actually I take back what I said about most of the plot being filler, the Disney Worlds in KH3 were actually *more* relevant to the plot than KH2. In almost every Disney world in KH2, Organization XIII's sole involvement is "sit back and release a bunch of heartless. Let Sora kill the heartless so that the captured hearts can be added to our artificial Kingdom Hearts." In Toy Box, Kingdom of Corona, Monstropolis, Arendelle, The Caribbean, and San Fransokyo, Organization XIII is not only an active participant in the conflict, but the goal they aim to achieve in those worlds is actively helping to achieve Master Xehanort's ultimate goal. They're either ensuring they have backup lights in case Sora and company fail to find seven guardians or looking for a way to complete Vexen's research so they can have a vessel for their thirteenth seeker. Olympus in tandem with Twilight Town also gives Sora his own overarching objective to work through over the course of the game beyond getting his powers back for the final battle: find a way to save Roxas.
in terms of, moving forward in this world i need nomura to, explain the voice in KH1 differently then he has, in interviews he says its mickey but, that voice is speaking with infomation mickey never seems to know? i think it would tie into adding mystery to the series and help bring in the crossing of worlds idea hes doing with sora and noctis, if we all know its noctis and we are just saying it in a different font thats cool, but no doubts hes gonna be the real king and im gonna be waiting, front row for that showing when we get it.
I think the way he says "i could tell you I'm good. When I'm really plotting to destroy the world" basically, is a huge red flag that he's actually doing that
@@UnVelius I think he is more like Doctor Strange, there is 1 single way to defeat the darkness, and he is doing everything in his power to make that happen, even if he has to sacrifice things, it doesn't make him evil. I am sure if there was another way he would take the lesser of two evils, but that is not the case.
@@lightningv4210 maybe That makes more sense since we do know he's probably seen the end multiple times. So it makes sense he would be looking to help, unless... unless he wants some unknown power to gain secretly more than he wants to help? But if not then evidence points to wanting to help
Calling MoM bad or evil, is like calling Doctor Strange bad, MoM has seen a single way to beat the darkness, he will do whatever possible to beat it no matter the cost. it seems that MoM thinks that he needed Sora to make it to Quadratum which the only way that happens is by leading Xehanort down the seeker of darkness road.
something i found interesting and curious if this statement in birth by sleep rewatching it threw another creator and have to wonder if it still matters to lore today, vantis at some point tells someone in that game the "X" blade can only be summoned at the keyblade graveyard. and then we see the MoM appear at that place which is suspicious, would it be wild if that keyblade like transformed into MoM, him and that ulta keyblade i hope are tied in a meanful way just to explain why thats powerful, but if that is so, then what is his relationship to kingdom hearts since that key also seems to be very connected to that as well
Thank you for another video! I hope development on KH4 is going well. I'm looking forward to our next update on it. God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
Imagine if we finally get the reveal of who the master of masters is and it’s just Tetsuya Nomura. Like a Hideo Kojima style put himself in the game, Tetsuya Nomura 🤣
So I’ve loved all your videos. I have a question since I only ever played the mainline games (KH3 obviously confused the shit outta me). Do the prequel games ever go into why the MoM always seems to be hanging out and conversing with the darkness like they’re friends?
You do sound crazy. But why does that need to be a bad thing? Many of the stories that play out in the Kingdom Hearts universe are not so cut and dry, light vs. dark, good vs. evil, just vs. unjust. It becomes very complex to its core, even beyond the "bonds of friendship" trope that everyone labels the series with. I think to be truly creative and imaginative in the world of Kingdom Hearts, you have to be a little crazy because everything that happens to our beloved characters is crazy.
i want to see final fantasy worlds in kh4. I dont want exclusively disney. I want to go to spira and fight sin! I want to save jecht and rewrite the story!
I think you mean kick Seymour's butt?? Because I'd want to fight him, well technically watch my sister do the mechanics of the fight. But, Jecht can watch with his buddies. And like Sora could get a keyblade themed around brotherhood sword or something lol.
The implication is so real with this series. They leave things ambiguous on purpose to add layers on it later on to make it even more convoluted than it already is
I think pure light are as dangerous as a pure darkness, in FF14 we had a whole world the suffered a calamity(apocalypse) becouse there was too much light, i think the same can be said for KH, balance is important, that's why Sora having a Anti/Shadow form and Riku being in the middle, for me, it's awesome, both had this balance and that's why both of them are as powerfull as they are
Ive always felt that light in general is just as capable of being evil as darkness, and to your point, can be just as bad. There needs to be balance.
From what I can tell the Master of Masters is an example of the phrases "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions" & "The ends justify the means"
So something interesting is in cosmic themeing. Sora is the moon. Riku is the sun and we could say that whoever made the heart shape with their hands is actually not after kingdom hearts. But Sora's heart
Is funny when you put into it. Since there is an secret, where in kh1 for going into the “secret waterway” at (traverse town) when talking to Kairi of the two seens an art 🖼️ wall that resemble the sun ☀️ and when Sora come across the sun wall it turn into an Navi-gummi piece, of the sun back into an moon 🌙 wall. Pretty fun scene , if I do say so myself 😊.
You're not just wrong, you're stupid. Sora means light, the whole plot is light in darkness. Riku is darkness
I have a random theory that I have about Demyx’s could possibly be the MoM’s: the MoM’s HAS to be somebody we’ve already seen, or he’s somebody WILL see in the future. There’s no point in hiding his identity if it’s someone we don’t know or haven’t seen. That’s part of why the Luxu reveal worked as well as it did. The reveal simply wouldn’t carry as much weight if the hood finally came off and it was someone we’ve never seen. Nomura has gone to great lengths to keep the MoM’s true name and face a secret, and that’s because it’s most likely someone we’ve already seen or will see in the future! Now, we move onto the real meat of this theory. I’ve noticed that the MoM’s and Demyx have similar personalities. Both are laidback goofballs that crack jokes as often as they can. Both of them even appear to have a slightly cowardly nature, or at least an aversion to conflict. Demyx outright states he doesn’t like fighting, and we haven’t seen the MoM’s fight yet. In fact, I don’t think it’s even implied that the MoM’s has fought anyone or anything at all. He has a Keyblade, but whether or not he’s actually ever used it in combat has yet to be seen or stated. The MoM’s even states that he’s too much of a “scaredy-cat” to take his coat off to Young Xehanort in KH3:ReMind. He could have been joking, but taken at face value, his personality lines up with Demyx’s pretty well. What brings this theory together is that we still don’t know what Demyx’s “Keyblade secret” that Xemnas was referring to is. We DO know that both Marluxia and Larxene were Keyblade Wielders during the events of UX. It’s possible that Xemnas was referring to more than that, but even if he wasn’t, the very fact that Marluxia and Larxene were Keyblade Wielders at all is still a fairly hefty bomb to drop. As for Demyx, his secret has yet to be hinted at. We could assume that it’s the same as Marluxia and Larxene, but UX ended without any confirmation that Demyx had even been born at that time, let alone was a Keyblade Wielder. We still don’t even know what Demyx’s true name is. All of this leads me to believe that Demyx is a fairly plausible candidate for the MoM’s. Is there a possibility this theory is true? Probably not, but it’s just a feeling I have.
Problem is Demyx and the MoM don't have the same body type. We can literally see it thanks to their coats. Demyx's shoulders and arms are more petite than the Master's
Demyx's true name could be demi rather than demy. Perhaps just due to a translation error.
Demi would kind of make sense.
@EUM_NEMESIS I’m aware of that, I just wanted to share my thoughts on the idea.
"There’s no point in hiding his identity if it’s someone we don’t know or haven’t seen."
Well they did with Vanitas.... maybe Mom will simply have Sora's face or someone else?
@giuliopollastri maybe… maybe not.
Nomura is changing the story and supposedly making it easier for people to get into with KH4 in which I think is a copout for he doesn't know what the hell he's doing with his own story. 👀I think what would've been the greatest twist and mind blowing thing of this entire story so far would be if Sora was the Master of Masters from the far future and became that way because he couldn't save Kairi or Riku from the darkness itself.
"Nomura is such a bad writer. This story would be way better if he makes the fan-fiction tier plot twist that Reddit has gaslit me into believing could be this generation's Luke, I am your Father canon." - Literally you
He can’t time travel to a point where he never existed based on the rules of time travel, not without a medium and someone with memories of himself. It’s impossible for Sora to be MoM.
For a long time now I have sensed the master can impersonate others, what the functions of these coats are I believe is to shapeshift. What if he could sound like another character? There is a scene in KH2 with Xigbar talking to Zexion in a hallway that I am positive is actually the master. The hood never comes off and his mannerisms are almost identical to this scene. Clearly he is also in the secret movie we first saw the BBB sleep crew in as well, before he suddenly looks like xehanort. We see the term lost master in this same secret movie as well.
The power of darkness grants the ability to cast illusions and impersonate anyone’s appearance or voice. DiZ does this in COM. We know MoM can use powers of both darkness and light from KHUX. I think you’re absolutely correct and MoM has been hiding in plain sight for the entire series. As whom? Well… I think Ansem the Wise (he makes a coat out of thin air too among many other similarities), but MoM could also shift into anyone…. Who knows who he could be masquerading as? Maybe even the scene you mentioned (or that’s just Luxu mimicking MoM, as he tends to do).
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Happy New Year!!
Happy new year 🎊🎆
And The Children that died in the Keyblade War. A mass Murder for what? Devoure Daybreak town? The Master of Masters ever think about a safety plan for them? Or are they die forever?
Sora is the kingdom hearts.
What I'm About To Say Is The Truth.
Sora Isn't The Master Of Masters. He Is The Master's Son.
Signed Ray Chase
If Sora doesn’t become a Keyblade master in KH4, I am gonna be surprised and upset at the same time
Something to remember with Eraquas though is when he realized what he did with Terra and Ventus there was a flicker of darkness that came out of him right when he died and transfered his heart to Terra.
I just assumed that the flicker of darkness that happened as he died was Xehanort attacking him from behind.
Awesome dude. HAPPY NEW YEAR
I try to focus on the flow of characters, such as the og keyblade weilders, they fell to sleep, became dream eaters went to sleeping worlds their keys left in the graveyard buuut in kh3 we see sora use a link command that summoned them all, later in same game he summoned all their keys to help aswell. So what would it take to recover them to their original forms?
After watching this. Does there have to be a single master of masters? Where does it state that there can't be more than one? What if there is two: themself and their nobody? One playing for the dark, one for the light?
You’re drunk
@@TheOneAndOnly2000K Yeah. You can't just pull whatever plot developments you want out of a hat and say it's a plot twist. Every good plot twist needs a hefty amount of foreshadowing. Xigbar being Luxu isn't a good plot twist because it's shocking and unexpected. It's a good plot twist because you can go replay all the previous games and see that Xigbar was *always* Luxu.
@@Triple33Threat KH3's story was fine, or at the very least didn't have any problems that weren't present in KH2: Namely that 80% of the run time is filler and basically the entire plot is backloaded into the last few hours. It certainly didn't have a problem with "bad plot twists."
Nah the problem with KH3 was the gameplay. The wind-up and/or ending lag on some of your moves is ridiculous, especially if you spam keyblade transformations like the game clearly wants you to. When you need NG+ abilities and DLC equipment just to achieve the same level of quality as was present in KH2, you have a problem.
@Triple33Threat Isn't it exhausting to be so assured that you're the smartest person in the room that if someone has an opinion about a children's video game you disagree with you immediately assume they're mentally deficient in some way? I had that mentality when I was in my late teens and early 20's and I certainly found it exhausting.
@@Triple33Threat Actually I take back what I said about most of the plot being filler, the Disney Worlds in KH3 were actually *more* relevant to the plot than KH2.
In almost every Disney world in KH2, Organization XIII's sole involvement is "sit back and release a bunch of heartless. Let Sora kill the heartless so that the captured hearts can be added to our artificial Kingdom Hearts."
In Toy Box, Kingdom of Corona, Monstropolis, Arendelle, The Caribbean, and San Fransokyo, Organization XIII is not only an active participant in the conflict, but the goal they aim to achieve in those worlds is actively helping to achieve Master Xehanort's ultimate goal. They're either ensuring they have backup lights in case Sora and company fail to find seven guardians or looking for a way to complete Vexen's research so they can have a vessel for their thirteenth seeker. Olympus in tandem with Twilight Town also gives Sora his own overarching objective to work through over the course of the game beyond getting his powers back for the final battle: find a way to save Roxas.
in terms of, moving forward in this world i need nomura to, explain the voice in KH1 differently then he has, in interviews he says its mickey but, that voice is speaking with infomation mickey never seems to know? i think it would tie into adding mystery to the series and help bring in the crossing of worlds idea hes doing with sora and noctis, if we all know its noctis and we are just saying it in a different font thats cool, but no doubts hes gonna be the real king and im gonna be waiting, front row for that showing when we get it.
I think the way he says "i could tell you I'm good. When I'm really plotting to destroy the world" basically, is a huge red flag that he's actually doing that
Basically I think he's way more evil than he seems
@@UnVelius I think he is more like Doctor Strange, there is 1 single way to defeat the darkness, and he is doing everything in his power to make that happen, even if he has to sacrifice things, it doesn't make him evil. I am sure if there was another way he would take the lesser of two evils, but that is not the case.
@@lightningv4210 maybe
That makes more sense since we do know he's probably seen the end multiple times. So it makes sense he would be looking to help, unless... unless he wants some unknown power to gain secretly more than he wants to help?
But if not then evidence points to wanting to help
Happy New year, Superstar.💖
Riku is the Master of Masters and sora was needed to keep a kingdom of hearts in place to keep time itself going
Calling MoM bad or evil, is like calling Doctor Strange bad, MoM has seen a single way to beat the darkness, he will do whatever possible to beat it no matter the cost. it seems that MoM thinks that he needed Sora to make it to Quadratum which the only way that happens is by leading Xehanort down the seeker of darkness road.
something i found interesting and curious if this statement in birth by sleep rewatching it threw another creator and have to wonder if it still matters to lore today, vantis at some point tells someone in that game the "X" blade can only be summoned at the keyblade graveyard. and then we see the MoM appear at that place which is suspicious, would it be wild if that keyblade like transformed into MoM, him and that ulta keyblade i hope are tied in a meanful way just to explain why thats powerful, but if that is so, then what is his relationship to kingdom hearts since that key also seems to be very connected to that as well
The master of masters is either going to be Nomura, Walt Disney, or Sephiroth.
Light is definitely going be tested since the 7 strongest darkness is returning
Thank you for another video! I hope development on KH4 is going well. I'm looking forward to our next update on it.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
I know this definitely ain’t the answer but it would be insane if it were Eraqus under the MoM hood 💀
Master of Master is a Chaotic Light
Finally a light antagonist
The guy who voiced M.O.M, didn't he voiced Noctis in FFXV
Imagine if we finally get the reveal of who the master of masters is and it’s just Tetsuya Nomura. Like a Hideo Kojima style put himself in the game, Tetsuya Nomura 🤣
So I’ve loved all your videos. I have a question since I only ever played the mainline games (KH3 obviously confused the shit outta me). Do the prequel games ever go into why the MoM always seems to be hanging out and conversing with the darkness like they’re friends?
No, they’re supposed to be enemies but Darkness also calls him an “old friend.”
heres to what will hopefully be a good year for us and kh
I really am starting to suspect that FF7 remake trilogy will complete before KH4
You do sound crazy. But why does that need to be a bad thing? Many of the stories that play out in the Kingdom Hearts universe are not so cut and dry, light vs. dark, good vs. evil, just vs. unjust. It becomes very complex to its core, even beyond the "bonds of friendship" trope that everyone labels the series with. I think to be truly creative and imaginative in the world of Kingdom Hearts, you have to be a little crazy because everything that happens to our beloved characters is crazy.
i hope this next arc doesn't take over 10 yrs to finish
Personally I think we have seen another character akin to MoM before: DiZ.
Kingdom Hearts 4 in 2034
Guys... master of masters is just Kairi
i want to see final fantasy worlds in kh4. I dont want exclusively disney. I want to go to spira and fight sin! I want to save jecht and rewrite the story!
I think you mean kick Seymour's butt?? Because I'd want to fight him, well technically watch my sister do the mechanics of the fight. But, Jecht can watch with his buddies. And like Sora could get a keyblade themed around brotherhood sword or something lol.