By the way, when dealing with any electronic device like the transformer, they will have short circuit protection, the output will switch off in an overcurrent situation so that must be what is happening here. When you find that there is no output on the transformer, disconnect the load and turn the transformer off and on again. Same with any plug in power supplies, you may get 1-2V DC but that is the overcurrent protection reducing the voltage to reduce the current flowing to protect the load.
I've actually had the motherboard on my own oven fail. It is well over 20 years old at this point. The repair man came, scratched off the defective trace, ran a jumper wire between the solder points and its been working fine since. Nice thing is, those old appliance all have wiring diagrams in them.
I had the chuckle brothers out to do my kitchen, fitted my double oven (4.8 kW) on the ring spur. This was after id already asked for to to be installed separately, I had to email the idiot the relevant specs and highlighted not installed to code. Before he came and corrected it. I would have done it myself but my paper work is for low voltages and up to those that will stop your heart in a in a millisecond. It can take several hundreds or kilovolts in my field. I'm now having to make sure any EMF is within certain field strengths at all frequencies for general public safety.
He must be bored to start tackling electrical work. He’s surely got enough cash to not be bothered and just get the job done haha At least it means we get a good video out of it.
Insulation test on oven may show good until it’s had good 20 minutes or more then elements can go down to Earth. Usually bottom element enclosed in cavity. See it often
Had a fault once where when the oven reached a certain temp it tripped the RCD - oven element tested okay I found it to be fan of the fan assisted oven shorting out. Swopped out fan unit for new tested fine after that.
not necessary so many new LEDs can be run off normal 12v transformers , of course its advisable to use leading edge transformers but many brand make retro fit LED lamps
@@firsteerr It's my experience for replacing the 12V halogen lamps of my kitchen cabinet to LED lamps. The original transformer for halogen lamp didnt output any voltage if I connect them with the LED. Got another two new transformers from screwfix which didn't work as well until I bought the "12V constant voltage LED driver". They took me lot of time Orz
It's always the oven element or grill going down. Mine tripped the RCD several times until one day the oven element failed. Replaced element and never happened again until 3 years later. , it was the same problem. Another 3 years and again it went. So on the fourth time I bought a new oven .it was 20 years old. Not mentioned the grill element went once as well.
Sticking a load of kitchen (semi-commercial) appliances on a split load board can always be problematic, as the appliances age the leakage goes up a little and starts causing problems.
Split load boards probably need to stop being a thing. Fair enough they made sense "back in the day" when RCDs were expensive and not all circuits had to be RCD protected but RCBOs are pretty cheap these days in the grand scheme of major electrical works like a rewire or board change. Going 100% RCBO prevents leakage issues from things like ovens (which are especially prone to leakage issues as they age) or PCs (which are often surprisingly leaky) from affecting other circuits and saves a little room in the CU, which can be used for something useful like adding a EV charger or a dedicated smoke detector circuit.
@@chrisardern4594 I always do it anyway, it costs almost nothing and is definitely safer, especially if someone takes off the socket, it keeps the backbox earthed.
Hmm seems to me that he needs to get you to fix the different problems Delroy and perhaps a new oven?? But that transformer setup was really pretty awful eh??
What I think: The brown goes back the right screw or between screw and back plane and so the RCD tripped - that is correctly for this device build. Nothing wrong here also. 🙂
a man with that accent should steer clear of DIY 🤣 its not in your blood pal. "while you're here can you just...." ugggh shoot me definitely connected 240vac to the 12vdc out ...don't know what happened just connected it like it said and it started smoking....
In his defense thought. The thing with the oven was not his own fault. If the cable short circuited inside the box it wasnt put in right. The lamp on the other hand might have been himself cutting cables and short circuited the new transformer 😄
I hate that kind of "customer" . They try to have stuff fixed on the cheep and when it breaks or doesn't work they want you to fix it with there parts! You don't even get to make a profit on material. Then "while your here" what is wrong with this; I just fixed it myself.! Too many cooks spoil the soup. Sorry these cheep people crank me up.
I disagree I love this guy time you go source the plate and return to the job you have lost money especially when it’s a certain point these customers are fussy so I prefer when the choose the plates His splashback as well was something that could easy break I would say to the customer if it breaks when I’m working here I’m certainly no paying for a new one I always cover myself 👍
"While you're here, can you. . ." arrrrggghhhh!
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Good on the bloke for having some idea - at least he shows an interest.
curiosity zapped the cat.
@@SedriqMiers love it Rico - it certainly can. Hahahha.😀
Those brushed silver Mk Edge sockets. Lovely :)
looks like he certainly likes a drink.
By the way, when dealing with any electronic device like the transformer, they will have short circuit protection, the output will switch off in an overcurrent situation so that must be what is happening here. When you find that there is no output on the transformer, disconnect the load and turn the transformer off and on again.
Same with any plug in power supplies, you may get 1-2V DC but that is the overcurrent protection reducing the voltage to reduce the current flowing to protect the load.
I was just about to mention this, you beat me to it 👍
exactly,, saved me having to type, thank you
I've actually had the motherboard on my own oven fail. It is well over 20 years old at this point. The repair man came, scratched off the defective trace, ran a jumper wire between the solder points and its been working fine since. Nice thing is, those old appliance all have wiring diagrams in them.
Sounds like quality. Like Miele or as here Gaggenau. You get what you pay for both in goods and what happens when if it goes wrong.
@@pinmast0r Quite a common fix to be honest, sometimes a lamp or heating element failing will take a solder trace with it.
I had the chuckle brothers out to do my kitchen, fitted my double oven (4.8 kW) on the ring spur. This was after id already asked for to to be installed separately, I had to email the idiot the relevant specs and highlighted not installed to code. Before he came and corrected it.
I would have done it myself but my paper work is for low voltages and up to those that will stop your heart in a in a millisecond. It can take several hundreds or kilovolts in my field. I'm now having to make sure any EMF is within certain field strengths at all frequencies for general public safety.
Hi Del had it with a lot of those 12AC transformers that they dont give out voltage unless a load is connected.
Never a dull moment dealing with DIY work on electrical services
That's a nice looking place, much nicer than some of your usual jobs Del!
Likes a drink that guy! 😂😂
He must be bored to start tackling electrical work. He’s surely got enough cash to not be bothered and just get the job done haha
At least it means we get a good video out of it.
Insulation test on oven may show good until it’s had good 20 minutes or more then elements can go down to Earth. Usually bottom element enclosed in cavity. See it often
Now now Andrew, you really shouldn't be messing with electrics when your such a lover of alcohol 🤣😅😆😂
Had a fault once where when the oven reached a certain temp it tripped the RCD - oven element tested okay I found it to be fan of the fan assisted oven shorting out. Swopped out fan unit for new tested fine after that.
That DIY cable connector above all those wood joists
You should have tried loosening the socket on the left to get them to sit side by side
probably wouldve added more tension on the mirror
If that's a LED lamp, an ordinary 12V lighting transformer could not turns it on. You have to make sure that must be a driver for LED.
not necessary so many new LEDs can be run off normal 12v transformers , of course its advisable to use leading edge transformers but many brand make retro fit LED lamps
@@firsteerr It's my experience for replacing the 12V halogen lamps of my kitchen cabinet to LED lamps. The original transformer for halogen lamp didnt output any voltage if I connect them with the LED. Got another two new transformers from screwfix which didn't work as well until I bought the "12V constant voltage LED driver". They took me lot of time Orz
That's an AR111 halogen lamp, cost a fortune to run, but deeply dimmed they can give very warm spot lighting.
I am seeing the expression "More money than sense" being played out in front of us...
Jealous?
It's always the oven element or grill going down. Mine tripped the RCD several times until one day the oven element failed. Replaced element and never happened again until 3 years later. , it was the same problem. Another 3 years and again it went. So on the fourth time I bought a new oven .it was 20 years old. Not mentioned the grill element went once as well.
Missed most of what you said in the Intro...my attention was more with the Biker outside your window. 🤣
💯 the oven mate, and also the installation of them back boxes are gash, looks like a kitchen fitter special 🤔
Sticking a load of kitchen (semi-commercial) appliances on a split load board can always be problematic, as the appliances age the leakage goes up a little and starts causing problems.
Split load boards probably need to stop being a thing. Fair enough they made sense "back in the day" when RCDs were expensive and not all circuits had to be RCD protected but RCBOs are pretty cheap these days in the grand scheme of major electrical works like a rewire or board change. Going 100% RCBO prevents leakage issues from things like ovens (which are especially prone to leakage issues as they age) or PCs (which are often surprisingly leaky) from affecting other circuits and saves a little room in the CU, which can be used for something useful like adding a EV charger or a dedicated smoke detector circuit.
Take the motherboard out and get it tested is tripping out when the lights on something warming up could be a dry joint.on the mother board.
15 year old Gaggenau oven - time for a new one I think!
Some of the new transformers don’t give an output to your meter without a load being present- light bulb .
I had 3 of those cheap 240/12v PSUs fail on me, so i fitted an old school metal transformer 240/12v and never had any more problems.
Jeez some people have so much “stuff” laying around I hate working like that. (I’m a carpenter for 50 plus years).
Dampness in the oven element connect it to a normal circuit breaker temporary run it for 15 mins. dry out the element done it many times.
nice gaff!
Hey deloy much love from kenya i haven't been seeing your new videos lately
Why not slide the double socket outlet to the left slightly?
I noticed two earths connected to the socket and the back box wasn't earthed. Did you correct that when you fitted the new front ?
Why would you need to do that its not a requirement as long as one of the fixing lugs is solidly fixed.
@@chrisardern4594 I always do it anyway, it costs almost nothing and is definitely safer, especially if someone takes off the socket, it keeps the backbox earthed.
@@chrisardern4594 and protected by an rcd
Spot the Rupert trying to get extra work to be done for the same price...... I get it all the time.......
Brown to brown, green to green and blue to bits..
'While you're cooking that steak, can you add another steak?'
Hmm seems to me that he needs to get you to fix the different problems Delroy and perhaps a new oven?? But that transformer setup was really pretty awful eh??
If i put the cooker on and my sockets turn into a toaster have i done something wrong ha
Bob the builder can fix it.... Or bob the owner...
when you spend thirty grand on a kitchen and ten bob of that went on the electrical !!!
That's kitchen fitter special included in the price 😁
An RCBO board would of been appropriate!
Not all sparks are so sad picking faults with others work
Is that Nags parking his motorcycle?
What I think: The brown goes back the right screw or between screw and back plane and so the RCD tripped - that is correctly for this device build. Nothing wrong here also. 🙂
that guy sounds like a cheap skate. he'll end up doing more electrical work and setting fire to his property. nice video del.
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a man with that accent should steer clear of DIY 🤣 its not in your blood pal. "while you're here can you just...." ugggh shoot me definitely connected 240vac to the 12vdc out ...don't know what happened just connected it like it said and it started smoking....
That shirt though !
@@walker1054 they do 🤣 that's why I basked in the revenge pal
In his defense thought. The thing with the oven was not his own fault. If the cable short circuited inside the box it wasnt put in right.
The lamp on the other hand might have been himself cutting cables and short circuited the new transformer 😄
Didn't fancy doing any actual testing then?
??
@@rjkelectrical6086 it's a 20 minute video. It's entirely possible he didn't show everything he did. Keyboard warriors love to pick fault😅
@@mikeypc3592 your probably right, why would he put actual electrical work in a video made by an electrician.
Elon Musk :)
I hate that kind of "customer" . They try to have stuff fixed on the cheep and when it breaks or doesn't work they want you to fix it with there parts! You don't even get to make a profit on material. Then "while your here" what is wrong with this; I just fixed it myself.! Too many cooks spoil the soup. Sorry these cheep people crank me up.
I disagree I love this guy time you go source the plate and return to the job you have lost money especially when it’s a certain point these customers are fussy so I prefer when the choose the plates
His splashback as well was something that could easy break
I would say to the customer if it breaks when I’m working here I’m certainly no paying for a new one
I always cover myself 👍
Thanks again for the videos!
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Stay safe.
Retired (werk'n)keyboard super tech. Wear your safety glasses!