The beauty of film cameras is that their picture quality only depends on the lenses and the film stock used. Even with a much cheaper camera like the EOS 30 or 300 you get the same picture quality as with more professional models -- the difference are the handling and the feature set. I have had the EOS 1V and have still the EOS 3, because the EOS 1V is much heavier without offering any other advantage in use. One should also be aware that while it is easy to get an EOS 3 in near mint condition, the EOS 1V cameras often were heavily used by professionals (higher shutter count and/or "cosmetic" damages).
I have a pair of 1n's. I also prefer heavy cameras for certain situations. A wider strap helps a lot in negating the effect of a heavy camera. That being said, I also have a bunch of 300's that just fell into my lap. I often borrow those to friends who want to try analog photography.
I own both and with all fairness eos 3 does almost the same as eos 1v (I am not using burst mode). But then 1v is that little bit better in every way. It feels much nicer in hand, shutter sound is the best I have ever heard, all feels so well dumped. Higher shutter speed flash sync, 100% viewfinder and weathersealing and it is still serviceble in 2021 by canon. I bought at the beginning eos 3 cause it cost me little money yo try film (ef lenses I have already owned) and I was not sure if I keep shooting analogue but then I regreted I didn't look for 1v from the beginning. If you like photograhy and you can afgord just go for 1v. It is a masterpieces of a gear.
I have the EOS 1N, it's the predecessor to the 1V, a bit older and cheaper than both of these (build is more like the 1V) but really all of these cameras are good. Very nice shots Tony...😀
Thank you for this video. Besides digital, I've shooting my Canon AE-1 and even an EOS 630, both I bought new, with very good results. I've been thinking of upgrading and looking at the EOS 3 and 1v for a while. I don't need the few extras on the 1v so you made my decsion easy. Thanks again, have a nice and safe summer.
beautiful comparative video. i could look at such beautiful pictures of the beach all day. 😃 I personally bought the eos 30v more or less a prosumer eos 3 simply because it is also not so big.
I have the 1N. I also have an EOS 3 and an Elan 7. I'm going to shoot a few rolls with each and try to pay closer attention. The 1N feels so good and I got great photos with it. Oddly, I really like the EOS Rebel T2 which I would have NEVER thought I'd like, maybe best of all. It has crazy high specs for a plastic camera, because it was released in 2004 and they threw everything in there to be competitive with Nikon's consumer model. It's so light and tiny and ugly, and fantastic. It's cheap, and I'm buying multiple copies, just in case. 🙂
Good video. I'll take it even further and recommend the Elan 7n for less than $100. Mine was $90 mint from KEH. I believe it's a step below the EOS 3, but a version was sold with eye control. It's one of the last film cameras Canon made, so focusing and metering should be on par with your cams. It also has the diopter adjustment. I'd love the 1v but for the pictures I take, I couldn't justify the price premium.
I have this one, it is a nice camera indeed, it goes by the name EOS-30 in non-US parts of the world. Build is a bit more plasticy and it is quite a lot lighter than either EOS-3 and the 1V. Focus accuracy and speed is less of a performer than the 1v/EOS-3 for sure, but it does get the job done and it is a very user-friendly camera and it does deliver well. I have one, but I tend to grab the 1V more than the EOS-30, unless I am looking for a very light, compact, auto-focus and still reliable analog camera.
I owned both, the 1v is definitely the pinnacle of the analog SLRs from Canon, both a sculpture and a statement of the ultimate 35mm film solution for the EF-world, however I sold it, because for me as an average shooter it gave no additional benefits. I believe, the EOS 3 offers an incredible vlaue for the money.
I've got an EOS 620 in excellent condition that I very luckily stumbled upon for cheap. While it's a joy to use and pretty damn simple, getting a weather sealed camera, better autofocus with more than one autofocusing points, and more metering options make me consider the 1n, 3, and 1v. The 1n is most appealing in terms of budget and I know I couldn't go wrong with it, but more autofocusing points with the 3 and 1v are just so desirable. It's a tough call.
The 1v is the best HOWEVER I have had one break recently. I also have a couple of 1n's and they have never failed. The Eos 3 felt very plasticky in comparison.
Elan IIe is a nice alternative also. Under $100 usually. Door latches break sometimes, I don't think they like super cold weather. I liked the video but the "music" boom boom is annoying.
@@OmarHamdoun-op9jk I do slight editing. Usually just temp, contrast and blacks. Nothing beyond that. I think these were all shot with the Canon EF 85mm 1.8.
They both very good camera and I got the canon EOS1n which I have it for 15 years and it works well and the two cameras that you are showing on your video recording are good for Most photography and the only down side for the 2 canon cameras are they got inside the camera BACK up BATTERIES which keep the camera running and would need it to be changed one day
I ended up upgrading to the mirrorless system for canon digital, and sold all my ef lenses and then sold my Eos 3 and 1V. Unless you have to have the best, I’d go for the 7 or Eos 3.
That’s mostly true but there are minor differences in bodies that can affect your images. Quality of autofocus, max shutter speeds, amount of focus points. Good glass will far outweigh anything else but there are some nuances that can help or hurt the results.
I've owned both and I prefer the 1V due to its build quality and features. The 3 was a very good camera in its day but comparing the 3 to the 1V is like comparing a VW to a BMW M8 there's no contest.
I am mainly a Sony shooter who transitioned from Nikon to Sony in 2017, but I have bought many EF mount lenses through the years. If I just need a film camera to test out various film and cinestill, should I go for a EOS 3 or is there a more compact and lighter camera which you would recommend? I would probably just use it on location with various lighting conditions for a few test shots and then put it back in my bag.
I just got my 1V and I've been experiencing random light leaks on the rim of one side of the frame. Its weird because its not on every frame but some of them have it. I took it to a repair shop today and the tech said that its because the door is plastic and although there's a rubber weather seal, the door can warp over time and light leaks like mine were not uncommon. Have you experienced this with your 1V?
I kinda had a similar issue. Look at your negatives and see if the light leaks go across the sprockets or just inside the frame? My issue was inside the frame and I believe it was from the shutter getting hung up and overexposing a sliver of the frame. It only happened at higher speeds.
You can get different viewfinders. I like the split center prism. I never used manual focus on these though. The autofocus had about a 90-95% hit rate in my experience. Good enough to just go with AF. If you want to shoot fully manual you might not need such a modern camera.
EOS-1V is a much sturdier and better camera than the EOS-3. I like them both, but when it comes to durability and performance the 1v is just a beast. Fully weather sealed and so rugged I am sure you can knock out any robbers with it and take their portrait while they are on the ground. There is a reason why the 1v was brought everywhere in the world by the professionals at the time, rain, dust, war peace, deserts or snow and ice....just keeps on trucking. The EOS-3 feels and looks and preforms like a pre-beta release of the 1V, loved the Eye-control over the focus points, but it did die on me during a light rain-shower. It did not get very wet actually, but it has nothing in the sense of weather sealing, like gaskets etc, just plastic over electronics, so if I had it, it would be in the studio.
They’re basically the same: the 1V is a battletank and the 3 is like a civilian version of it - slightly less spec:ed. I’d rather take the 3 around town and the 1V on a hike.
Its strange that during film days, photocheaters/sport photographers need HS shooting. Now, cheapskates & newbies, don't care about HS shooting. But many wannabe want to add dead weight very grip to mimic pros. ATG/Canon were smart in making the 1V series. There were actually 3 models made. Because Nikon F5, you can't remove the motor drive.
@@TonyWodarck You may like three of these from ATG's 1. Rolleiflex 3003 (many pros are lost on this model) 2. Contax AX 3. Contax 645 (this puts Hasselblad into shame) 4. Canon A-1 5. Canon AL You have what to be careful with the film's door. Only the ATG Gold EOS-1VHSr has a metal door, better seals, wireless remote & 10fs.
@@TonyWodarck The Rooleiflex 3000/3003 (mod by ATG) made Hasselblad looks bad. The Contax 645 by ATG put Hasselblad to shame/into the history books. Facts: ATG/Shirro own Hasselblad and discarded the German's Zeiss lens. Many staffs were let go. All 60 X 60 were dead. New APS medium format with ATG/Asian lens that are better then Zeiss Then they sold Hasselblad. Contax & Rolleiflex retain their high values while Hasselblad sanks.
@@thorstenjaspert9394 Those days of films & you are being paid. You can not make excuses why you have missed the moments. Film is cheap vs being fired or you are no longer needed.
Mid pandemic my couples requested vendors to wear masks at weddings in Palm Springs. I personally don’t love masks. I do love aperture priority when it works though.
Which do you prefer? Have you shot with these?
I sold my EOS 3 and I have 3 1v's and I definitely prefer the 1V which is why I sold the EOS 3
The beauty of film cameras is that their picture quality only depends on the lenses and the film stock used. Even with a much cheaper camera like the EOS 30 or 300 you get the same picture quality as with more professional models -- the difference are the handling and the feature set. I have had the EOS 1V and have still the EOS 3, because the EOS 1V is much heavier without offering any other advantage in use. One should also be aware that while it is easy to get an EOS 3 in near mint condition, the EOS 1V cameras often were heavily used by professionals (higher shutter count and/or "cosmetic" damages).
I have a pair of 1n's. I also prefer heavy cameras for certain situations. A wider strap helps a lot in negating the effect of a heavy camera. That being said, I also have a bunch of 300's that just fell into my lap. I often borrow those to friends who want to try analog photography.
I own both and with all fairness eos 3 does almost the same as eos 1v (I am not using burst mode). But then 1v is that little bit better in every way. It feels much nicer in hand, shutter sound is the best I have ever heard, all feels so well dumped. Higher shutter speed flash sync, 100% viewfinder and weathersealing and it is still serviceble in 2021 by canon.
I bought at the beginning eos 3 cause it cost me little money yo try film (ef lenses I have already owned) and I was not sure if I keep shooting analogue but then I regreted I didn't look for 1v from the beginning. If you like photograhy and you can afgord just go for 1v. It is a masterpieces of a gear.
Great insight. I totally agree.
ordered the eos 3 a couple days ago after watching your video. I'm glad this video didn't make me regret that decision.
Hahahah you’re gonna love it. I still haven’t sold mine cause I love it so much. Enjoy!
I have the EOS 1N, it's the predecessor to the 1V, a bit older and cheaper than both of these (build is more like the 1V) but really all of these cameras are good. Very nice shots Tony...😀
Thanks so much! I hear the 1N is a great camera for the price!
You beat me to this comment lol, I also have a 1V purchased in mint condition for $160. I couldn't justify spending extra dough on the 1v or 3.
The EOS 1N isn't cheap its a well made camera. It is less expensive but it isn't cheaply made or designed.
@@dps6198 Exactly, build is like the 1V as stated above and it's very good. Much less expensive than the 1V.
Thank you for this video. Besides digital, I've shooting my Canon AE-1 and even an EOS 630, both I bought new, with very good results. I've been thinking of upgrading and looking at the EOS 3 and 1v for a while. I don't need the few extras on the 1v so you made my decsion easy. Thanks again, have a nice and safe summer.
Awesome. Love hearing that. Enjoy the camera it’s so fun!!
I actually typed the exact title of this into Google this morning... so glad to find this video. Thanks Tony!
Hahahah yesss!! Hopefully the video helped your decision making
beautiful comparative video. i could look at such beautiful pictures of the beach all day. 😃 I personally bought the eos 30v more or less a prosumer eos 3 simply because it is also not so big.
Nice! Thanks so much for watching. 🙌🏽
Great video!
Love the shots at the end of the video, thanks for doing this.
Thanks Dad!
I have the 1N. I also have an EOS 3 and an Elan 7. I'm going to shoot a few rolls with each and try to pay closer attention. The 1N feels so good and I got great photos with it.
Oddly, I really like the EOS Rebel T2 which I would have NEVER thought I'd like, maybe best of all. It has crazy high specs for a plastic camera, because it was released in 2004 and they threw everything in there to be competitive with Nikon's consumer model. It's so light and tiny and ugly, and fantastic. It's cheap, and I'm buying multiple copies, just in case. 🙂
Well my question was answered without me searching! Thanks the the thoughts. Cheers!
No worries! Can’t go wrong with either. Enjoy!!
Good video. I'll take it even further and recommend the Elan 7n for less than $100. Mine was $90 mint from KEH. I believe it's a step below the EOS 3, but a version was sold with eye control. It's one of the last film cameras Canon made, so focusing and metering should be on par with your cams. It also has the diopter adjustment. I'd love the 1v but for the pictures I take, I couldn't justify the price premium.
Thanks so much. Good to know. I’ve heard of that camera but never tried one. That’s a great one to recommend. Thanks!
I have this one, it is a nice camera indeed, it goes by the name EOS-30 in non-US parts of the world.
Build is a bit more plasticy and it is quite a lot lighter than either EOS-3 and the 1V.
Focus accuracy and speed is less of a performer than the 1v/EOS-3 for sure, but it does get the job done and it is a very user-friendly camera and it does deliver well.
I have one, but I tend to grab the 1V more than the EOS-30, unless I am looking for a very light, compact, auto-focus and still reliable analog camera.
Great video! Lovely family and beautiful images.
Thanks so much
I owned both, the 1v is definitely the pinnacle of the analog SLRs from Canon, both a sculpture and a statement of the ultimate 35mm film solution for the EF-world, however I sold it, because for me as an average shooter it gave no additional benefits. I believe, the EOS 3 offers an incredible vlaue for the money.
Totally the EOS 3 is a bit of a sleeper.
I've got an EOS 620 in excellent condition that I very luckily stumbled upon for cheap. While it's a joy to use and pretty damn simple, getting a weather sealed camera, better autofocus with more than one autofocusing points, and more metering options make me consider the 1n, 3, and 1v. The 1n is most appealing in terms of budget and I know I couldn't go wrong with it, but more autofocusing points with the 3 and 1v are just so desirable. It's a tough call.
Saw a mint Eos 3 on Facebook today for $3 hundred something. I’d recommend grabbing that.
@@TonyWodarck link?
The 1v is the best HOWEVER I have had one break recently. I also have a couple of 1n's and they have never failed. The Eos 3 felt very plasticky in comparison.
Totally! I prefer the feel of the 1V
Elan IIe is a nice alternative also. Under $100 usually. Door latches break sometimes, I don't think they like super cold weather. I liked the video but the "music" boom boom is annoying.
Thanks for the feedback!! I appreciate you watching.
did you edit these photos at all and what lens did you use? amazing photos!
@@OmarHamdoun-op9jk I do slight editing. Usually just temp, contrast and blacks. Nothing beyond that. I think these were all shot with the Canon EF 85mm 1.8.
They both very good camera and I got the canon EOS1n which I have it for 15 years and it works well and the two cameras that you are showing on your video recording are good for Most photography and the only down side for the 2 canon cameras are they got inside the camera BACK up BATTERIES which keep the camera running and would need it to be changed one day
Thank you for the video!! This definitely helped me with my decision!
Great vid! I was debating between these two models. And also the 7ne. Just curious, did you end up keeping both or just the 1V
I ended up upgrading to the mirrorless system for canon digital, and sold all my ef lenses and then sold my Eos 3 and 1V. Unless you have to have the best, I’d go for the 7 or Eos 3.
Tony, may I use a couple of five second clips in my upcoming review of the entire 1 series up to the R1? I'll be sure to give you credit in the video.
Yep no worries! Thanks for asking.
Actually doesn't matter camera body for film photography. You can use cheaper EOS with a good lens.
That’s mostly true but there are minor differences in bodies that can affect your images. Quality of autofocus, max shutter speeds, amount of focus points. Good glass will far outweigh anything else but there are some nuances that can help or hurt the results.
I've owned both and I prefer the 1V due to its build quality and features. The 3 was a very good camera in its day but comparing the 3 to the 1V is like comparing a VW to a BMW M8 there's no contest.
I am mainly a Sony shooter who transitioned from Nikon to Sony in 2017, but I have bought many EF mount lenses through the years. If I just need a film camera to test out various film and cinestill, should I go for a EOS 3 or is there a more compact and lighter camera which you would recommend? I would probably just use it on location with various lighting conditions for a few test shots and then put it back in my bag.
You can check the canon Elan 7 series. They’re cheaper and similar to the Eos 3.
Hi Tony was wondering which film camera would be best for weddings?
Either will work great. Auto focus and auto winding will make shooting film super easy.
Thanks for sharing
Good Camera ✨Good Picture ✨
Thank you!!
It's a great camera, but I'm sick of kids who weren't even alive when this camera hit the market pretend like they know something about it
Hmm... EOS-3 doesn't have diopter adjustment... I wanted to buy this camera (((
You can buy eyepieces to swap out the diopter strength. See if you can find the number first before grabbing the camera.
EOS1V is the best Canon film camera. I have Nikon F5 and F6. F6 is the best of the best.
I just got my 1V and I've been experiencing random light leaks on the rim of one side of the frame. Its weird because its not on every frame but some of them have it. I took it to a repair shop today and the tech said that its because the door is plastic and although there's a rubber weather seal, the door can warp over time and light leaks like mine were not uncommon. Have you experienced this with your 1V?
I kinda had a similar issue. Look at your negatives and see if the light leaks go across the sprockets or just inside the frame? My issue was inside the frame and I believe it was from the shutter getting hung up and overexposing a sliver of the frame. It only happened at higher speeds.
I DONT KNOW ANY OTHER RUclipsR WHO MAKES SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PICTURES!!
Well hello best compliment ever. Hahaha. Thank you!
Work horses, both many memories for me 1V better seals quality reliability in the NW USA
Rad! Both great cameras for sure.
Hi, Tony! What's the main difference between the EOS 1 and EOS 1V? Thanks!
I think focus points. Like 5 vs 45 or something crazy like that.
Nice video, I have both cameras but my second EOS 3 has stopped working, do you know anywhere that can repair them ?
I believe KEH does. Or check Steve’s camera in Culver City.
How is using manual lenses on these cameras? Does it have good tools in the viewfinder to check if things are in focus?
You can get different viewfinders. I like the split center prism. I never used manual focus on these though. The autofocus had about a 90-95% hit rate in my experience. Good enough to just go with AF. If you want to shoot fully manual you might not need such a modern camera.
Nice photos
Thank you!
Maybe I missed it, does EOS 1v have that eye-focus feature like the EOS 3?
It does not. That feature is unique to the eos 3.
@@TonyWodarck canon 5, 50e, 30e and 3 had the eye Feature
great photos!
Thanks so much!
EOS-1V is a much sturdier and better camera than the EOS-3.
I like them both, but when it comes to durability and performance the 1v is just a beast. Fully weather sealed and so rugged I am sure you can knock out any robbers with it and take their portrait while they are on the ground.
There is a reason why the 1v was brought everywhere in the world by the professionals at the time, rain, dust, war peace, deserts or snow and ice....just keeps on trucking.
The EOS-3 feels and looks and preforms like a pre-beta release of the 1V, loved the Eye-control over the focus points, but it did die on me during a light rain-shower. It did not get very wet actually, but it has nothing in the sense of weather sealing, like gaskets etc, just plastic over electronics, so if I had it, it would be in the studio.
They’re basically the same: the 1V is a battletank and the 3 is like a civilian version of it - slightly less spec:ed. I’d rather take the 3 around town and the 1V on a hike.
I want to get a 1v but my 1n compared to my nikon f5 feels like a plastic camera and i dont want the 1v to feel the same😭
The 1V doesn’t feel cheap. It feels like a canon 5D if you ever shot those.
Don't worry, it won't. My 1v HS is every bit a tank as my F1n.
The built quality of the EOS3 is actually as strong as steel but lighter. Short of dropping it of a roof that body will last almost forever.
What lens were you using in the intro ?
That’s the canon 85 1.8. An amazing lens for the price.
Is the eos 3 weather sealer?
I don’t have it anymore to check but I don’t believe so. And the 1V definitely is.
1V has MANUAL AF points ... The 3 has MIND CONTROLLED AF!!!!!!
😂😂😂
A piece of medical tape over the top of your mask and nose helps with fogging while wearing glasses.
Its strange that during film days, photocheaters/sport photographers need HS shooting.
Now, cheapskates & newbies, don't care about HS shooting.
But many wannabe want to add dead weight very grip to mimic pros.
ATG/Canon were smart in making the 1V series. There were actually 3 models made.
Because Nikon F5, you can't remove the motor drive.
Yeah I don’t need the HS modes but I love the professional build of the 1V.
@@TonyWodarck You may like three of these from ATG's
1. Rolleiflex 3003 (many pros are lost on this model)
2. Contax AX
3. Contax 645 (this puts Hasselblad into shame)
4. Canon A-1
5. Canon AL
You have what to be careful with the film's door.
Only the ATG Gold EOS-1VHSr has a metal door, better seals, wireless remote & 10fs.
I own the Contax 645 and love it
@@TonyWodarck The Rooleiflex 3000/3003 (mod by ATG) made Hasselblad looks bad.
The Contax 645 by ATG put Hasselblad to shame/into the history books.
Facts:
ATG/Shirro own Hasselblad and discarded the German's Zeiss lens.
Many staffs were let go. All 60 X 60 were dead.
New APS medium format with ATG/Asian lens that are better then Zeiss
Then they sold Hasselblad.
Contax & Rolleiflex retain their high values while Hasselblad sanks.
@@thorstenjaspert9394 Those days of films & you are being paid. You can not make excuses why you have missed the moments. Film is cheap vs being fired or you are no longer needed.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍👍👍👍
Aperture priority AND weraring a government compliance mask lol bro you’re no real photographer
🤔🤔🤔
Mid pandemic my couples requested vendors to wear masks at weddings in Palm Springs. I personally don’t love masks. I do love aperture priority when it works though.
@@TonyWodarck I wasn't being serious :) I own this camera, too and love it.
Hiii Tony! I was wondering which film camera would you recommend the most for a wedding photographer?
My biggest gripe of eos 3 is the non100% coverage viewfinder.... This can drive people nuts sometimes.