STL I had the same thought about the Retaliator not many people would chance attacking a military bomber not knowing if it's carrying cargo or packing heat.
The Carrack. Fairly large cargo capacity, in a ship designed for long distance self-sufficient trips, with massive shields, heavy armor, excellent sensors, a small hangar and moderate firepower. Likely also going to have good efficient engines, and some ability to self repair (it has a repair workshop, and drone launchers, and we've seen artwork for repair drones).
+Aethid Aye carrack will be my option if I need to ship stuff which is not my mail goal, but if it works it works. I did miss the Taurus myself though the cheap connie variant with a large hold and still some pew pew.
Sort of an odd duck and still in the 'Honorable Mention' category, The Reclaimer. While yes, it is a salvage ship, it also boasts size 6 powerplants and shields, 3 size 5 turrets, 4 CapShip CIWS systems, and more cargo capacity than a Hull-C. Plus given that it's a salvage ship, it's most likely built to go into very hazardous areas.
+Robert Schumacher See, I don't think people understand the concept of a "high risk hauler" You're literally trying to pick a ship that stands out the most, and from what I can tell, use the ship as the defense. That's suicide. You're literally asking to get ganked.
The beauty of this game is you have so many options there is no "best" ship for any role, it truly comes down to personal play style and skill with your chosen ship. With that said, I'm anticipating the MM to be my main cargo ship as I won't have to switch ships no matter how risky the mission and it'll carry a crapton of cargo. My second option is the Star-G......all the rest just don't seem to be able to carry enough or be tough enough and most are a combination of both shortcomings for my particular play style.
You forgot that some of the highest-risk cargo missions will be smuggling in safe space, which the bulk Hull series can do (supposedly). Also the Taurus has that dedicated smuggling hold instead of the bottom turret. Keep up the good work!
I was going to go with the redeemer it's already been said that you will be able to swap out the troop bay for cargo as well as the upper cargo area in a powerful ship.
+Sean Tanner Once that actually becomes a thing, I absolutely agree, but until we get the rework done, I'm holding off on that recommendation. I still have some level of concern where they decide to balance the ship. It can't be a complete gunboat that also does cargo pretty well.
A very personalized Constellation Taurus will be my main ship for this role and many others. I did have a Freelancer MIS for this but I have also had the Taurus since it was originally released for the same reasons, with the launch of the Prospector I swapped out that Freelancer for a personal miner...leaving all the goodies and fun to be had with my baby.
I have a starfarer G. depending how the NPCs from additional accounts shake out.. I have 3 or 4 NPCs in hornets as an escort. All ships LTI and I plan to solo.
I also own the Titan, Blue and Merchantman but my high risk transport will be the Max. If it handles in a similar way the base version does (I know, Max is heavier - especially fully loaded) it'll be a wonderful fighter for its size. It should be relatively fast and it offers enough cargo space for most special deliveries.
@STLYoungblood I know you love the avenger but keep in mind that if its carrying cargo its going to be a lot heavier, which means slower to maneuver and accelerate which really puts it at a serious disadvantage if it gets attacked. Even a single other fighter sized will have an advantage due to the cargo making the avenger sluggish, and the avenger doesn't have any turret weapons to cover its blind spots if it can't maneuver well enough to engage the enemy.
im going with my carrac. has bigger engines then the sfg and better shields. also can scan for asteroid fields to come back to later with a mining ship or sell to friend.
is the aquila able to add a snub fighter? i know it doesnt come with one and that it is geared more towards exploration, but couldnt it do this role equally well to the andromeda?
High risk cargo run is not always about transporting large amount of goods. Its also about getting small but high value stuff through risky sectors. Best ships for small volume high risk in my opinion are Reliant Base or Mustang Beta. Not too fast, but modifiable enough to fit the role.
I have a Constellation Aquila and a Freelancer DUR. Both are sturdy ships. I expect to see my opponents at a long enough range to give my quantum drive enough to start up and engage to take me away from the combat zone out of detectable range. My extra sensors should detect the possible enemy ships before they detect me. Both ships have outstanding extended quantum jumbo and so my cargo should be more value blessed the further from port of origon my destination is. My ships plan on avoiding combat and out running my opponents.
Was hoping you'd talk a little about the 890 Jump as a HR transport.. Ill be using my Conni or the 890. Plan is to be escorted by atleast 2 SH's where ever i go.
With the new turret system having these blades able to turn them into effectively automated turrets would you say that the Retaliator is now a better option than the constellation Andromeda? I'm thinking so only because 5 automated weapons on a tougher faster in a straight line ship makes more sense for cargo running then a ship that only has two turrets and forward facing weaponry. The other Factor would be the fuel cost though I'm assuming the Retaliator with its more thrusters would have a significantly more fuel consumption but how that measures against the cargo profit maybe negligible. What do you think guys?
Picking the right the ships carrier ships will take keep in mind size fighting power and easy repair and durably as you want to have as meany as you can and keep them after a battle like would having 200 snubs be a good idea and what would be good combos
For me it's the freelancer max. It can be played solo since i have funcky timetables, although it's much more fun with a co-pilot. Also the build fits my gamestyle better. I prefer to get away without fighting and the added engines and power plant make an escape more viable. Thx for the contunious great quality content STL.
I got a pretty decent sized crew of close friends so for me the Starfarer base will be my pick. Starfarer with 5 crew mates plus more cargo to make better profit. Plus 2 escorts maybe 3 to allow us to move into more dangerous jobs. should be fun.
The BMM for me. It can carry a Hull-C worth of cargo, but with 8 crew and the whole back story, i expect it to be a huge ship. The back story more than anything sealed it. it will be my trader and my home.
The Hercules lineup primarily the M2 and A2. M2 keeps enough cargo space for 2 Nova tanks, has improved armor and still keeps crew size low. A2 trades off cargo for more offensive features. the addition of the bombing system is a turn-off as it focuses the ship away from the original role but the added weapons can act as a huge deterrent to other ships.
Phoenix / 890 Jump / Banu MM. Banu MM is a fast armored blockade runner. Phoenix is the ultimate ship in it's class in terms of stats hands down. Extra power, tougher armor, point defense system, shielded cargo ect. 890 Jump. The ULTIMATE high risk transport imho. 5 large turrets, 2 point defenses, speed, capital class power plant / shields. CIG even says " it's ready for dozens of potential roles, from high-security trading to organization leadership to command and control." Note the HIGH-SECURITY TRADING.
You should do a video on best ships to live out of. As example Serenity from the show Firefly, or the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars, or even The Enterprise from Star Trek.
Starfarer Gemini for the win! lol. Love that ship. One of my first purchases. I have mixed feelings about the retaliator. It has the potential til be a great ship, but there need to be some changes like allowing the pilot to control some weapons. Don't forget about the newer Reliant with cargo for cheap too.
you totally forgot about bomber series. if you replace the forward bomb bay onto an cargo hold mod, you can transport good amounts of cargo while still having some torbedos onboard. 5 decent sized turrets and torbedos, sure will make any pirate flinch when thinking of getting theyr com ship with wings of ships. One salvo from that rear torbs bay and your profits are GONE.
I think the hornet series and the gladiator would also be good choices for small amounts of cargo because of their primary role of being a dogfighter. No one is going to scan a dogfighter for cargo.
I would go with Carrack with the modular bays switched out for cargo over banu merchantman for a dangerous run. It has decently small crew requirement compared to merchantman and seems to be carrying only about quarter less cargo while it (at least currently) seems to be very strong shield plus strong armor and the main thing which is in my opinion important is the extra strong sensor suite which means you should be able to see threats before they see you. It also seems to me than none of the larger vessels are actually capable of outrunning a dedicated fighter craft as for example, Andromeda top speed is currently 100 m/s and afterburner speed is 200 m/s meaning that several fighters are faster than it is even before using afterburners.
I really don't agree with the minimizing of the Freelancer MIS. It is probably the best option for high risk transport because it can also travel through small jump points. If you want a solo transport that can have several "Fight or Flight" options the Lancer mis is in my opinion the most solid option.
how abound Genesis Starliner its fast it has good shields and it can carry a good bit of cargo and its long range and has lots of powerplands to pus those engines to max fore a long time I think many people even forgot about this ship sure its not packs a lot of firepower but fore running away it seams perfect ben did even said that we will be able to increase the cargo space by removing the passengers seats and sleeping space
+shadowsa2b You would also need to add on a jump drive unless you wanted to just do in system trading as the LX is the only Aurora that comes stock with one.
+Gundam either sounds doable. no ides how much either component will cost to put on it, but i dont think it would make it match the avenger's price tag. hopefully
How about Reliant? Even not the base Kore, but variants. They should have cargo capacity of 10 (Avenger Titan have 12), and only few pirates will bother to rob scientist, or engage missile boat..
Even though it won't have a large amount of cargo, I the Redeemer would fit this role nicely. and I"m sure you could pack just enough cargo to make it worth a trip.
just wondering why you don't like the Carrack for a cargo ship. Yeah I get it its more of an exploration ship but with the 3 modular drop pods we may be able to switch those out for cargo bays. Also the hangar on the top could be outfitted for cargo but I would probably keep it for an attack ship. Also, have we found out what we are going to be able to fit in there as far as ships? it looks like a super hornet would be right at home in there in my opinion but I would really like to hear your thoughts or if you have heard/seen anything that tells us otherwise.
+SaintZnHD I gave it an honorable mention. I think it could do really well, but I just felt there were others that were better choices for this specific role.
Edit: With the help of someone elses comment + google, I have learned the ship name, Banu Merchantman. Looks nice :) I'm rocking the Freelancer right now, just the stock model, but when the game does come out, I plan on making a ton of credits to save up for something. Wasn't quite sure as to what, but that ship at 6:00 sounds right up my alley. (Had a hard time understanding the name, Banyer Merchant?) I kind of doubt my ability to dogfight, especially against all those people with the ... hotas? I think they're called? The stick and thruster peripherals. I still don't even know how to fire my missiles yet lol, so I'm feeling a little outclassed. Also people practice the arena commander stuff quite a lot, make credits, etc. I'm all about the passive and co-operative play styles. So if I had a good chance of escaping with that thing, I'd be pretty happy.
***** Hey thanks! The community has been great. I just haven't been playing enough. I don't want to get hooked then play a ton and get burnt out before the game actually launches. I just hop in from time to time to refresh myself with the controls and see what's new. Thank you, though :)
I really think the Freelancer would be great and the thought of squaring off against a loaded out Gemini is definitely daunting! A quick question...Would you consider "high risk transport" the same as smuggling? Keep up the great work! The videos are awesome!
hi Youngblood, I am a new player and i just Watch many videos... I buy a freelancer, but i don't know if i should upgrade it. In your video, u said "the freelancer max will have better shield, because better power plante" but in the spec, it's lower... More cargo mean more $$$, but in the risk buiness... more shield, missiles, not sure for the max... something strange, in RSI website the spec for the freelancer mis is 52 cargo capacity??
Probably like a retaliator or freelancer. Or if its different type of cargo probably something like the 890 jump because of its defense systems or the starliner because of its shields.
hamilton harper they have a cargo module which you can carry different type of cargo around 20 units give or take. robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14883-Retaliator-Modules-Available
+Ancaneon I just looked up the Merchantman and it said it isn't available yet. Have you already got it purchased? Looks like a sweet ship, probably what I'll be saving up for with my Freelancer :) Any idea what the price on it will be?
+Andrew Hampshire I bought mine last december for the anniversary sale and it was 250€. But you can expect a huge price raise, because it was only a concept, and prices are rise up as the development goes on. And it is one of the last ship which is going to be worked on, because it's not needed for Squadron 42.
I think that the smaller ships are probaply the safest alternative for high risk transport. In particular the 350R should be able to outrun any opposition if the mechanics remain as they are while carrying a small amount of high risk cargo. The best mix between speed and cargo seem to me the Mustang Alpha, Avenger and the Reliant. They can load a decent amount of high value stuff and still double as fighting ships that can "get away" if need be. With larger ships I would use the Phoenix, which can hold itself for a while in battle. Carrying high risk cargo, the higher amount an Andromeda could take doesn't seem to be the priority for me.
Ah my first comment. I like your videos STLY. figure it about time I start commenting on them. I'd pick the DUR over the max. Better weapons and missles. But better not get seen right! Better radar to evade the busy traffic and hope to see first than to be seen. And those exhaust covers only seen on the DUR what do you think they are there for? Lower heat sig.
hey Stl, nice vid First of all:D but i have a few questions... 1. do we Know anything about the cutlass rework?:/ 2. do you know If the blue will be for sale another time in the Future? 3. is there any information On the blue to be flightready?
+Christopher Kayser (Dr. Horrible) I agree, but until we see it I didn't want to recommend it. I still have questions about how they balance it being a complete gunboat with decent cargo
Not sure where the cargo module will fit. Just hand bomb your cargo into the main combat mission compartment. Only downside to the Redeemer will be it's really short quantum range. Cargo gains value as a rule the further it's transported away from origon. You want a ship with several star systems worth of quantum range.
Survival is a multi discipline concept. The Redeemer happens to have armour and fire power when it gets ambushed. Other disciplines of survival is detection of would be ambushers and being able to outrun them before they have a chance to come after you. I just happened to choose the later 2 options plust I get the extra range and cargo handling qualities to remain competitive as a merchant or strategic fleet supply service.
Assuming I can get enough NPCs and or players with some high value cargo, I'll use my Idris-M. (The Idris in general is highly overlooked for high value cargo IMHO) While it is a frigate now, back when it was a corvette in the "Idris Corvette Revealed" post on the RSI site about 3 years ago it was stated as the following: " Idris’ are used by long-range explorers who plan to be as many as two dozen jumps from a refueling station and as armored merchantmen by concerns needing to move goods through pirate territory. The high pricetag keeps the Idris out of range of anyone usually operating Freelancers or Starfarers, and actually makes them something of a target for higher caliber pirates, who presume that anyone who owns one has something worth protecting." While the Idris won't always be my go to ship for dangerous cargo hauling, it will be if the cargo is worth it. And I think that is where it will shine.
+Gundam I know, I just didn't want to recommend the Idris or Javelin based on price and super limited availability. In game though, it will be great, depending on the crew requirements and operating costs. It may be more cost effective to use something else.
+STLYoungblood fair enough. In retrospect, given that the Idris and up will be more limited hulls in the PU. I don't think people will be looking at them primarily that way ether. Also, since CIG hasn't even flushed out cargo yet. A lot of this is guess work and I would bet that we may end up seeing a shocker for when it comes to this roll. The mustang omega comes to mind with it's 10 cargo and fast speed as more of a "out run everything" high value cargo ship. But in the end we are all going to have to wait and see. =P
If the Genesis Starliner comes in a cargo variant it will be scary fast (4 x TR7) and have 2 Size 7 shield in addition to 6 Size 7 power plants. Holy Crap.
I have been considering getting one of the Star Citizen packs, but I would like to know a few things first. How complete is the game right now? Is it worth getting into it now or wait until full release? Does the game have voice chat built in? And does the game world feel as boring as Elite Dangerous? Basically, is there more gameplay than space trucking and bounty hunting? And do the larger ships have a purpose beyond roflstomping the same things you were fighting in the first ship you had? Can you buy new ships in the game now or do you have to spend money on them?
SQ42 will be ready this year (single Player). Persistent universe is still under development till early 2017. You can play some parts of SC now but it's not a finished game yet.
+sephirothdawn2 I would wait for playing it but you can buy it today and have some fun. If you buy now you can buy ships too. After release you will not able to buy ships with money anymore.
I'm not sure if most of these ships would be viable for "high risk" transports, especially the SF. High Risk means that there's 1: Some either illegal or real expensive shit in the back 2: And EVERYBODY knows about it So you need to move fast, and quiet, or fast with a LOT of friends. That means the SF, Carrack (probably), Any slower hauler, etc. is out. Any small fast hauler (Reliant, not sure how you missed that) would work. Any fast ship for documents or real small articles, say a racer or scout would work too. The BMM has been described as a Blockade Runner, so It'll probably be the best for larger high-risk hauls.
I am stuck between the Star G and the BMM for this role. We won't really between these two until they've been out and balanced though. Both SHOULD be awesome but we'll have to wait and see
Hey STLYYoungblood are you going to create your own organization or join one because I would give a arm and a leg to roleplay with people that are as into this game as you?
I used to be a huge fan of the Avenger as well but now I'm not so sure because it really feels like every patch that comes out just sort of slightly needs it a little bit, and over time it's lost a lot of agility and speed (last time I checked it was about as fast as the Hornets) and was weaponry that's really not that amazing. On top of that if you read the original description of the ship, it's described as a ship that relies on being able to take damage, and right now i wouldn't say the Avenger has noteworthy capabilities to take damage. The only way I see the Avenger keeping up with time is if you're replacing the ball turret with a fixed Apocalypse Arms Revenant gatling gun or something, and with whatever s2 weapons happen to be OP that particular patch of the game on the wings.
+STLYoungblood Well if you have to transport a very small amount of very high value cargo it sure comes in handy if NOTHING (well, at this point) can catch you.
+Synthetic Legion yup. Just enough cargo space to be worth it and easy pickings for pirates. Maximum profit, minimum risk. Sounds like a win for the pirate to me.
+Hobo G There are different flight modes. In standard flight the ships computer limits speed to prevent fatal g-forces killing the occupants. Cruise mode is much faster but your turning ability is drastically reduced (again, g-forces). And then there is Quantum drive, which can traverse a solar system in minutes but you cannot turn at all. There IS an upper speed limit and each ship has it's limits in each mode, adjusted for balanced game play. There needs to be some balance between realism and play-ability.
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STL I had the same thought about the Retaliator not many people would chance attacking a military bomber not knowing if it's carrying cargo or packing heat.
The Carrack. Fairly large cargo capacity, in a ship designed for long distance self-sufficient trips, with massive shields, heavy armor, excellent sensors, a small hangar and moderate firepower. Likely also going to have good efficient engines, and some ability to self repair (it has a repair workshop, and drone launchers, and we've seen artwork for repair drones).
+Aethid Aye carrack will be my option if I need to ship stuff which is not my mail goal, but if it works it works.
I did miss the Taurus myself though the cheap connie variant with a large hold and still some pew pew.
But Carrack can’t run on a skeleton crew efficiently. It’s operation costs will be high. That is a guarantee.
For everyone playing the 'STL Recommending the Avenger' drinking game get your shot glasses ready.
+jankins114 It is a wonderful ship, though. Only needs its speed back.
Sort of an odd duck and still in the 'Honorable Mention' category, The Reclaimer. While yes, it is a salvage ship, it also boasts size 6 powerplants and shields, 3 size 5 turrets, 4 CapShip CIWS systems, and more cargo capacity than a Hull-C. Plus given that it's a salvage ship, it's most likely built to go into very hazardous areas.
+Robert Schumacher See, I don't think people understand the concept of a "high risk hauler"
You're literally trying to pick a ship that stands out the most, and from what I can tell, use the ship as the defense. That's suicide. You're literally asking to get ganked.
The beauty of this game is you have so many options there is no "best" ship for any role, it truly comes down to personal play style and skill with your chosen ship. With that said, I'm anticipating the MM to be my main cargo ship as I won't have to switch ships no matter how risky the mission and it'll carry a crapton of cargo. My second option is the Star-G......all the rest just don't seem to be able to carry enough or be tough enough and most are a combination of both shortcomings for my particular play style.
MM?
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You forgot that some of the highest-risk cargo missions will be smuggling in safe space, which the bulk Hull series can do (supposedly). Also the Taurus has that dedicated smuggling hold instead of the bottom turret. Keep up the good work!
A dedicated smuggling hold somehow seems like a silly idea
+Riesenfriese 9 out of 10 "people" in this game will be computer players so I guess they will not know about it as well as some players.
iKerbals I know, but putting something a dedicated smuggling spot just feels wrong
I was going to go with the redeemer it's already been said that you will be able to swap out the troop bay for cargo as well as the upper cargo area in a powerful ship.
+Sean Tanner Once that actually becomes a thing, I absolutely agree, but until we get the rework done, I'm holding off on that recommendation. I still have some level of concern where they decide to balance the ship. It can't be a complete gunboat that also does cargo pretty well.
A very personalized Constellation Taurus will be my main ship for this role and many others. I did have a Freelancer MIS for this but I have also had the Taurus since it was originally released for the same reasons, with the launch of the Prospector I swapped out that Freelancer for a personal miner...leaving all the goodies and fun to be had with my baby.
I have a starfarer G. depending how the NPCs from additional accounts shake out.. I have 3 or 4 NPCs in hornets as an escort. All ships LTI and I plan to solo.
I also own the Titan, Blue and Merchantman but my high risk transport will be the Max. If it handles in a similar way the base version does (I know, Max is heavier - especially fully loaded) it'll be a wonderful fighter for its size. It should be relatively fast and it offers enough cargo space for most special deliveries.
@STLYoungblood
I know you love the avenger but keep in mind that if its carrying cargo its going to be a lot heavier, which means slower to maneuver and accelerate which really puts it at a serious disadvantage if it gets attacked. Even a single other fighter sized will have an advantage due to the cargo making the avenger sluggish, and the avenger doesn't have any turret weapons to cover its blind spots if it can't maneuver well enough to engage the enemy.
im going with my carrac. has bigger engines then the sfg and better shields. also can scan for asteroid fields to come back to later with a mining ship or sell to friend.
been seriously thinking of a redeemer for light high risk cargo runs but im just not sure....
is the aquila able to add a snub fighter? i know it doesnt come with one and that it is geared more towards exploration, but couldnt it do this role equally well to the andromeda?
High risk cargo run is not always about transporting large amount of goods. Its also about getting small but high value stuff through risky sectors.
Best ships for small volume high risk in my opinion are Reliant Base or Mustang Beta. Not too fast, but modifiable enough to fit the role.
I have a Constellation Aquila and a Freelancer DUR. Both are sturdy ships. I expect to see my opponents at a long enough range to give my quantum drive enough to start up and engage to take me away from the combat zone out of detectable range. My extra sensors should detect the possible enemy ships before they detect me. Both ships have outstanding extended quantum jumbo and so my cargo should be more value blessed the further from port of origon my destination is. My ships plan on avoiding combat and out running my opponents.
Was hoping you'd talk a little about the 890 Jump as a HR transport.. Ill be using my Conni or the 890. Plan is to be escorted by atleast 2 SH's where ever i go.
With the new turret system having these blades able to turn them into effectively automated turrets would you say that the Retaliator is now a better option than the constellation Andromeda? I'm thinking so only because 5 automated weapons on a tougher faster in a straight line ship makes more sense for cargo running then a ship that only has two turrets and forward facing weaponry. The other Factor would be the fuel cost though I'm assuming the Retaliator with its more thrusters would have a significantly more fuel consumption but how that measures against the cargo profit maybe negligible. What do you think guys?
Picking the right the ships carrier ships will take keep in mind size fighting power and easy repair and durably as you want to have as meany as you can and keep them after a battle like would having 200 snubs be a good idea and what would be good combos
For me it's the freelancer max.
It can be played solo since i have funcky timetables, although it's much more fun with a co-pilot. Also the build fits my gamestyle better. I prefer to get away without fighting and the added engines and power plant make an escape more viable.
Thx for the contunious great quality content STL.
+Telmo Silva I completely agree.
How about now, since they reworked the Cutlass Black? The ships that are most likely to come for Freelances. They are bigger, harder and angrier now!
I got a pretty decent sized crew of close friends so for me the Starfarer base will be my pick.
Starfarer with 5 crew mates plus more cargo to make better profit.
Plus 2 escorts maybe 3 to allow us to move into more dangerous jobs.
should be fun.
Good ideas. Like the channel and keep it coming!
The BMM for me. It can carry a Hull-C worth of cargo, but with 8 crew and the whole back story, i expect it to be a huge ship. The back story more than anything sealed it. it will be my trader and my home.
The Hercules lineup primarily the M2 and A2. M2 keeps enough cargo space for 2 Nova tanks, has improved armor and still keeps crew size low. A2 trades off cargo for more offensive features. the addition of the bombing system is a turn-off as it focuses the ship away from the original role but the added weapons can act as a huge deterrent to other ships.
Phoenix / 890 Jump / Banu MM.
Banu MM is a fast armored blockade runner.
Phoenix is the ultimate ship in it's class in terms of stats hands down. Extra power, tougher armor, point defense system, shielded cargo ect.
890 Jump. The ULTIMATE high risk transport imho. 5 large turrets, 2 point defenses, speed, capital class power plant / shields. CIG even says " it's ready for dozens of potential roles, from high-security trading to organization leadership to command and control." Note the HIGH-SECURITY TRADING.
You should do a video on best ships to live out of. As example Serenity from the show Firefly, or the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars, or even The Enterprise from Star Trek.
Any chance we could get an updated version of this video. With 3.3 out and the updated lancers about to hit.
Starfarer Gemini for the win! lol. Love that ship. One of my first purchases. I have mixed feelings about the retaliator. It has the potential til be a great ship, but there need to be some changes like allowing the pilot to control some weapons. Don't forget about the newer Reliant with cargo for cheap too.
you totally forgot about bomber series. if you replace the forward bomb bay onto an cargo hold mod, you can transport good amounts of cargo while still having some torbedos onboard. 5 decent sized turrets and torbedos, sure will make any pirate flinch when thinking of getting theyr com ship with wings of ships. One salvo from that rear torbs bay and your profits are GONE.
I think the hornet series and the gladiator would also be good choices for small amounts of cargo because of their primary role of being a dogfighter. No one is going to scan a dogfighter for cargo.
I would go with Carrack with the modular bays switched out for cargo over banu merchantman for a dangerous run. It has decently small crew requirement compared to merchantman and seems to be carrying only about quarter less cargo while it (at least currently) seems to be very strong shield plus strong armor and the main thing which is in my opinion important is the extra strong sensor suite which means you should be able to see threats before they see you. It also seems to me than none of the larger vessels are actually capable of outrunning a dedicated fighter craft as for example, Andromeda top speed is currently 100 m/s and afterburner speed is 200 m/s meaning that several fighters are faster than it is even before using afterburners.
I really don't agree with the minimizing of the Freelancer MIS. It is probably the best option for high risk transport because it can also travel through small jump points. If you want a solo transport that can have several "Fight or Flight" options the Lancer mis is in my opinion the most solid option.
how abound Genesis Starliner its fast it has good shields and it can carry a good bit of cargo and its long range and has lots of powerplands to pus those engines to max fore a long time I think many people even forgot about this ship sure its not packs a lot of firepower but fore running away it seams perfect ben did even said that we will be able to increase the cargo space by removing the passengers seats and sleeping space
I think the Retaliator would be a great choice with its heavy armament going with one missile bay one for cargo.
no low end Aurora LN with cargo box add on?
+shadowsa2b You would also need to add on a jump drive unless you wanted to just do in system trading as the LX is the only Aurora that comes stock with one.
+Gundam either sounds doable. no ides how much either component will cost to put on it, but i dont think it would make it match the avenger's price tag. hopefully
How about Reliant? Even not the base Kore, but variants. They should have cargo capacity of 10 (Avenger Titan have 12), and only few pirates will bother to rob scientist, or engage missile boat..
Even though it won't have a large amount of cargo, I the Redeemer would fit this role nicely. and I"m sure you could pack just enough cargo to make it worth a trip.
just wondering why you don't like the Carrack for a cargo ship. Yeah I get it its more of an exploration ship but with the 3 modular drop pods we may be able to switch those out for cargo bays. Also the hangar on the top could be outfitted for cargo but I would probably keep it for an attack ship. Also, have we found out what we are going to be able to fit in there as far as ships? it looks like a super hornet would be right at home in there in my opinion but I would really like to hear your thoughts or if you have heard/seen anything that tells us otherwise.
+SaintZnHD I gave it an honorable mention. I think it could do really well, but I just felt there were others that were better choices for this specific role.
what about the reliant tana? It can carry a small amount of cargo with decent weaponry
Edit: With the help of someone elses comment + google, I have learned the ship name, Banu Merchantman. Looks nice :)
I'm rocking the Freelancer right now, just the stock model, but when the game does come out, I plan on making a ton of credits to save up for something. Wasn't quite sure as to what, but that ship at 6:00 sounds right up my alley. (Had a hard time understanding the name, Banyer Merchant?) I kind of doubt my ability to dogfight, especially against all those people with the ... hotas? I think they're called? The stick and thruster peripherals. I still don't even know how to fire my missiles yet lol, so I'm feeling a little outclassed. Also people practice the arena commander stuff quite a lot, make credits, etc. I'm all about the passive and co-operative play styles. So if I had a good chance of escaping with that thing, I'd be pretty happy.
***** Hey thanks! The community has been great. I just haven't been playing enough. I don't want to get hooked then play a ton and get burnt out before the game actually launches. I just hop in from time to time to refresh myself with the controls and see what's new. Thank you, though :)
I really think the Freelancer would be great and the thought of squaring off against a loaded out Gemini is definitely daunting! A quick question...Would you consider "high risk transport" the same as smuggling? Keep up the great work! The videos are awesome!
hi Youngblood, I am a new player and i just Watch many videos... I buy a freelancer, but i don't know if i should upgrade it. In your video, u said "the freelancer max will have better shield, because better power plante" but in the spec, it's lower... More cargo mean more $$$, but in the risk buiness... more shield, missiles, not sure for the max... something strange, in RSI website the spec for the freelancer mis is 52 cargo capacity??
I would say the Carrack depending on more info that gets released.
Probably like a retaliator or freelancer. Or if its different type of cargo probably something like the 890 jump because of its defense systems or the starliner because of its shields.
+Strider K-JIN the only cargo you can carry in the retaliator are torpedos.
hamilton harper
they have a cargo module which you can carry different type of cargo around 20 units give or take.
robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14883-Retaliator-Modules-Available
+hamilton harper Unless you add the cargo modules, only 20 units each so 40 if you get both.
gotcha. still, you would need to man the 5 turrets with npcs which would add to the expense as there are no pilot-controlled guns on the tali.
hamilton harper
yeah thats about the only drawback. I see it for only if the cargo is small and is extremely important compared to the other ships.
I can't wait for my Merchantman to appear in my hangar.
+Ancaneon I just looked up the Merchantman and it said it isn't available yet. Have you already got it purchased? Looks like a sweet ship, probably what I'll be saving up for with my Freelancer :) Any idea what the price on it will be?
+Andrew Hampshire I bought mine last december for the anniversary sale and it was 250€. But you can expect a huge price raise, because it was only a concept, and prices are rise up as the development goes on. And it is one of the last ship which is going to be worked on, because it's not needed for Squadron 42.
+Andrew Hampshire Here is all the concept art official we have (understand that none of them is actually the final design) imgur.com/a/lWemL#0
Baptiste Michel Wow, pretty incredible. Bummer that it's going to be so far down the road, though. Thanks for the replies! :)
+Andrew Hampshire No problem :) If you have any other question on this game, do not hesitate !
I think that the smaller ships are probaply the safest alternative for high risk transport. In particular the 350R should be able to outrun any opposition if the mechanics remain as they are while carrying a small amount of high risk cargo.
The best mix between speed and cargo seem to me the Mustang Alpha, Avenger and the Reliant. They can load a decent amount of high value stuff and still double as fighting ships that can "get away" if need be.
With larger ships I would use the Phoenix, which can hold itself for a while in battle. Carrying high risk cargo, the higher amount an Andromeda could take doesn't seem to be the priority for me.
The vanguard warden? maybe if it comes with a cargo hold for the center piece. Extremely fast ship.
Because of you, i have my eyes set on an avenger titan. a couple friends of mine are thinking about the stalker and this could be a good trio
speaking of trios, best trio of ships for security or mercenary work
Ah my first comment. I like your videos STLY. figure it about time I start commenting on them. I'd pick the DUR over the max. Better weapons and missles. But better not get seen right! Better radar to evade the busy traffic and hope to see first than to be seen. And those exhaust covers only seen on the DUR what do you think they are there for? Lower heat sig.
I'm really anxious to see how the reliant handles itself.
I'd really like to see what you have to say about the Charon system
Since my return to SC I'm a big fan of my lancer and will likely do a buyback to a mis...until I can get my starrunner
I would think the Genesis Strainer if it indeed has a cargo variant to the human cargo.
I think the Reliant would be perfect for this role, don't know why you didn't mention it.
hey Stl, nice vid First of all:D
but i have a few questions...
1. do we Know anything about the cutlass rework?:/
2. do you know If the blue will be for sale another time in the Future?
3. is there any information On the blue to be flightready?
I think the Caterpillar won't put up much of a fight against anyone unless it is surrounded by a cloud of Cutlasses and Bucanneers.
How about the Redeemer with cargo module?
+Christopher Kayser (Dr. Horrible) Ya that would be great as well, no one wants to pick a fight with a gunship.
+Christopher Kayser (Dr. Horrible) I agree, but until we see it I didn't want to recommend it. I still have questions about how they balance it being a complete gunboat with decent cargo
Not sure where the cargo module will fit. Just hand bomb your cargo into the main combat mission compartment. Only downside to the Redeemer will be it's really short quantum range. Cargo gains value as a rule the further it's transported away from origon. You want a ship with several star systems worth of quantum range.
+Phillip Mulligan range is good but being able to survive is key
Survival is a multi discipline concept. The Redeemer happens to have armour and fire power when it gets ambushed. Other disciplines of survival is detection of would be ambushers and being able to outrun them before they have a chance to come after you. I just happened to choose the later 2 options plust I get the extra range and cargo handling qualities to remain competitive as a merchant or strategic fleet supply service.
wee are in april 2016 and no release date an wee are talking of what ship is best for....etc.!
im wondering if you can add a snub nose to the Taurus
+brnoclub 1947 I don't think so, nor the missing 2nd turret.
+applemaggot This is correct
Ummmm Javelin didn't get a mention at all?
Assuming I can get enough NPCs and or players with some high value cargo, I'll use my Idris-M. (The Idris in general is highly overlooked for high value cargo IMHO) While it is a frigate now, back when it was a corvette in the "Idris Corvette Revealed" post on the RSI site about 3 years ago it was stated as the following: " Idris’ are used by long-range explorers who plan to be as many as two dozen jumps from a refueling station and as armored merchantmen by concerns needing to move goods through pirate territory. The high pricetag keeps the Idris out of range of anyone usually operating Freelancers or Starfarers, and actually makes them something of a target for higher caliber pirates, who presume that anyone who owns one has something worth protecting."
While the Idris won't always be my go to ship for dangerous cargo hauling, it will be if the cargo is worth it. And I think that is where it will shine.
+Gundam I know, I just didn't want to recommend the Idris or Javelin based on price and super limited availability. In game though, it will be great, depending on the crew requirements and operating costs. It may be more cost effective to use something else.
+STLYoungblood fair enough. In retrospect, given that the Idris and up will be more limited hulls in the PU. I don't think people will be looking at them primarily that way ether. Also, since CIG hasn't even flushed out cargo yet. A lot of this is guess work and I would bet that we may end up seeing a shocker for when it comes to this roll. The mustang omega comes to mind with it's 10 cargo and fast speed as more of a "out run everything" high value cargo ship.
But in the end we are all going to have to wait and see. =P
Picking the right touring ship?
The description for the BMM states Blockade Running, so my bets are on that until proven otherwise
If the Genesis Starliner comes in a cargo variant it will be scary fast (4 x TR7) and have 2 Size 7 shield in addition to 6 Size 7 power plants. Holy Crap.
I have been considering getting one of the Star Citizen packs, but I would like to know a few things first.
How complete is the game right now? Is it worth getting into it now or wait until full release? Does the game have voice chat built in? And does the game world feel as boring as Elite Dangerous? Basically, is there more gameplay than space trucking and bounty hunting? And do the larger ships have a purpose beyond roflstomping the same things you were fighting in the first ship you had?
Can you buy new ships in the game now or do you have to spend money on them?
SQ42 will be ready this year (single Player). Persistent universe is still under development till early 2017. You can play some parts of SC now but it's not a finished game yet.
+Todestelzer Yeah, I realize it is still in development, would you say it is worth getting into the early access now? Or just wait for the release?
+sephirothdawn2 i dont think you loose anything by waiting, theres not a lot to do right now.
+sephirothdawn2 I would wait for playing it but you can buy it today and have some fun. If you buy now you can buy ships too. After release you will not able to buy ships with money anymore.
I'm not sure if most of these ships would be viable for "high risk" transports, especially the SF. High Risk means that there's
1: Some either illegal or real expensive shit in the back
2: And EVERYBODY knows about it
So you need to move fast, and quiet, or fast with a LOT of friends. That means the SF, Carrack (probably), Any slower hauler, etc. is out.
Any small fast hauler (Reliant, not sure how you missed that) would work. Any fast ship for documents or real small articles, say a racer or scout would work too.
The BMM has been described as a Blockade Runner, so It'll probably be the best for larger high-risk hauls.
What about the dragon fly?
+Owen Hodson Are you for real?
It's not going to work without a team, but the Idris-P is going to be pretty killer at carrying large loads into dangerous areas.
You already know what I will be using. Question: Has Blackbood joined or is looking to join an organization.
our crew is considering using a hull E with two sabers for support
+Snowypods That should do pretty well, but it depends on the size of attacking fleet. That Hull E is a LOT of ship to cover.
+STLYoungblood too ture, unfortunately we will never be able to cover all eventualities, all we can do is experiment before the game officially starts
I'm gona be aiming for the freelancer or starfarer although I already have an andromeda
Tali and Catty for sure.
I am stuck between the Star G and the BMM for this role. We won't really between these two until they've been out and balanced though. Both SHOULD be awesome but we'll have to wait and see
+D. Bowen This role? Consilering one has been said to be a BLOCKADE RUNNER, and one's a slow ass hauler, BMM.
+Godin The Killer Well I'm glad your mind is made up, I'll wait until they're actually in game, thanks though
D. Bowen So conceptual roles mean jack shit now? Cool.
Hey STLYYoungblood are you going to create your own organization or join one because I would give a arm and a leg to roleplay with people that are as into this game as you?
see link in video description
+Alan Johnson I feel really stupid and grateful at the same time
I used to be a huge fan of the Avenger as well but now I'm not so sure because it really feels like every patch that comes out just sort of slightly needs it a little bit, and over time it's lost a lot of agility and speed (last time I checked it was about as fast as the Hornets) and was weaponry that's really not that amazing. On top of that if you read the original description of the ship, it's described as a ship that relies on being able to take damage, and right now i wouldn't say the Avenger has noteworthy capabilities to take damage.
The only way I see the Avenger keeping up with time is if you're replacing the ball turret with a fixed Apocalypse Arms Revenant gatling gun or something, and with whatever s2 weapons happen to be OP that particular patch of the game on the wings.
*slightly nerfs it
I think the star runner would be a great option
I won't bother getting a cargo ship. I can just carry the stuff on my lap.
+fastllama13 350R for you!
+STLYoungblood Well if you have to transport a very small amount of very high value cargo it sure comes in handy if NOTHING (well, at this point) can catch you.
+STLYoungblood 0 cargo
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Reliant Kore anyone? It seems to be a good, possibly ubiquitous ship that most wouldn't bother scanning or stopping.
+TheGibsterofGibsterness Except they would. It's a dedicated cargo ship and probably not fast.
+Synthetic Legion yup. Just enough cargo space to be worth it and easy pickings for pirates. Maximum profit, minimum risk. Sounds like a win for the pirate to me.
Why mess about take a Javelin with a redeemer on it. More than enough cargo room on it.
+gareth hahahah lol I knew I should have said something about that suggestion! I try to keep these at the sub 1000 dollar ship category :)
Crew size isnt an issue...you can hire npc's to man those turrets and if you pay them well....they will be fairly accurate.
Nice video! Keep em coming! But where is the MISC Reliant Kore in this list?
Merchantman ftw
BMM all the way!
The C2 hercules
Starfarer Gemini.
Yea well, you need exactly 8192 Avenger Titans to do the same job.
Or you need to do 8192 runs.
You pick.
redeemer?
Is there seriously a maximum speed in Star Citizen?... #physics
+Hobo G There are different flight modes. In standard flight the ships computer limits speed to prevent fatal g-forces killing the occupants. Cruise mode is much faster but your turning ability is drastically reduced (again, g-forces). And then there is Quantum drive, which can traverse a solar system in minutes but you cannot turn at all. There IS an upper speed limit and each ship has it's limits in each mode, adjusted for balanced game play. There needs to be some balance between realism and play-ability.
IDRIS
pretty sure according to what we can play already..... that freelancer would be proper fked when the 2 cutlasses showed up haha just sayin
+Yo ski lol but in how many ford commercials i see 500hp