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  • @ekinmatanza5853
    @ekinmatanza5853 3 месяца назад +719

    “Never confuse education with intelligence, you can have a PhD and still be an idiot.” - Richard Feynman

    • @brianburgess3231
      @brianburgess3231 3 месяца назад +13

      Probably the most intelligent answer I've seen here so far yes

    • @AllAroundGeeks
      @AllAroundGeeks 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@brianburgess3231you don't get to agree withh this guy and then comment what you did, they are 2 opposite things

    • @brianburgess3231
      @brianburgess3231 3 месяца назад +11

      @All.Around.Geeks.Paradisez huh? ... I'm sorry but I can't even fathom how many silly presumptions you might be making here .. try to speak coherently and I might be able to understand you

    • @brianburgess3231
      @brianburgess3231 3 месяца назад +4

      @@AllAroundGeeks critical thinking might be an arts class I would suggest for you first .. logical fallacies would be the first thing I would focus on if I were you

    • @AllAroundGeeks
      @AllAroundGeeks 3 месяца назад +1

      @@brianburgess3231 I am speaking coherently, you just can't seem to use basic comprehension skills

  • @mh_golfer
    @mh_golfer 3 месяца назад +119

    I used to require a degree to hire junior developers but learned the hard way that people with a good attitude and aptitude for coding was more valuable than a degree.

    • @Jagger-lc1fe
      @Jagger-lc1fe 3 месяца назад +3

      And that's awesome, really.....but not everyone has an aptitude for coding.....

    • @Stargazer-lg8cs
      @Stargazer-lg8cs 2 месяца назад +6

      I once interviewed a guy that had read the manual and could answer the technical questions but could not actually code complex logic. I go way back and learned Cobol in college but quickly learned the real way to use the language when I got into the workforce. College just basically introduced me to the syntax but not much else beyond the simplest logic.

    • @dosidicusgigas1376
      @dosidicusgigas1376 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@Stargazer-lg8csI had a similar experience with my trade degree. We did learn really basic coding syntax but the logic side was seriously lacking.

    • @scarasara
      @scarasara Месяц назад +2

      I've noticed that too. The ones that went to college think they don't have to work as hard and have attitudes and feel like they are better than everyone. The ones that didn't go work their
      a$$es off and usually end up ahead.

  • @cysmith2391
    @cysmith2391 3 месяца назад +175

    Charlie has wisdom that doesn’t come from a college/university.

    • @spencerb819
      @spencerb819 Месяц назад +3

      Common sense is what that is 💪👍

  • @elizabethvazquez773
    @elizabethvazquez773 3 месяца назад +188

    Not only do they force you to take classes that are irrelevant to your degree, but the very next term, at least one of those "required" classes is no longer "required." Happened 3 times to my youngest daughter while going for a 2 year degree. She saw it for what it was...a scam...and stopped wasting her money and time. She went to work for Costco and makes more money (almost $30/hour) than her older sister, who holds a 4 year degree. Unless you are becoming an engineer, doctor/nurse, or maybe attorney, college is a worthless.

    • @billallen4793
      @billallen4793 3 месяца назад +8

      Yes to every single thing you typed! Trade school's are the way to go, unless you're going into the medical field or legal type degree's!...My daughter is a nurse, my 2 boy's are going for mechanic work, my oldest son is going after diesel mechanic, my youngest boy wants to be a gasoline mechanic!..from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 👋🤠

    • @ljb8157
      @ljb8157 3 месяца назад

      Yep!

    • @007assassins2
      @007assassins2 2 месяца назад +1

      I wish you had help your kids to uncover their potentials. Yes you don’t need a degree to be a Janitor to make 200k with overtime at the bart station . And I agree a lot of class I took is irrelevant to my job but I feel ppl should know the basics of biology physic chemistry ,anthropology.

    • @ljb8157
      @ljb8157 2 месяца назад

      @007assassins2 so.. in order to get a degree in accounting, I should be forced to waste my precious time and money to pay for a biology, physics, and anthropology class just because..."people should know"
      Ok.. then add it to the high school curricula. Why should I have to waste my time and money on this classes when I'm going to school to get my degree in accounting? Why?
      It's a scam. Legitimately a scam

    • @sarahp.3772
      @sarahp.3772 2 месяца назад +7

      Agreed! If your major is not a STEM major. College is so pointless. Criminal Justice degree here. Only got it, bc I wanted to go to law school.

  • @MrKrzys01
    @MrKrzys01 3 месяца назад +268

    These college students say I disagree like it alters the reality of the argument.

    • @cholieandresa
      @cholieandresa 3 месяца назад +8

      Right?

    • @AdamSelvig
      @AdamSelvig 3 месяца назад +4

      The unintelligent shows a lot about a person’s over sized ego ignorance and arrogance

    • @connorbert9611
      @connorbert9611 3 месяца назад +3

      Because they think their “smart”

    • @Shayzare
      @Shayzare Месяц назад +1

      Your father disagreed that you were a beautiful baby and left your mother, that changed your reality 🤣🤡

    • @LoganDaSlapper
      @LoganDaSlapper Месяц назад +1

      @@Shayzare boy you sure got him! whew that was tough brother, idk how he'll recover from that one. holster your weapon sir, no need for such fire come backs.

  • @ferdinandsiegel4470
    @ferdinandsiegel4470 3 месяца назад +131

    So called higher education is a business. All they care about the money.

    • @Qwerboy-zv1mk
      @Qwerboy-zv1mk Месяц назад +1

      Maybe u should get into a course and actually focus on that rather than just thinking about passing then u will know

    • @charlesphilhower1452
      @charlesphilhower1452 21 день назад

      As are suburban school districts that rate their success on the percentage of graduates instead of exposing students to other options that may be better options for their students.

  • @OmarMartinez-ln3hr
    @OmarMartinez-ln3hr 3 месяца назад +49

    The problem isn't that these kids disagree with Charlie. The problem is that they don't undertaker what Charlie is arguing. This argument isn't saying, " College is useless." The argument is that " college isn't the only way, and college is charging you for things you don't need. " Kids have been sold the idea that you need to go to college to be successful when in really not everyone does need to go to college.

    • @shmataboro8634
      @shmataboro8634 3 месяца назад +5

      When I was a kid Hollywood was cranking out movies about college kids. It sure looked fun. I was too young to realize it was just marketing.

    • @wittyedge
      @wittyedge 3 месяца назад +3

      The way Charlie is arguing it though is very misleading. Like his example with the coding course for 6-months and then making $180,000 a year. That isn't true. You don't just take a course on coding for half a year, have no job experience, then magically get picked up by a new employer and have them willing to pay you nearly $200,000 a year when you don't know what you are doing! He makes it sound so easy anyone could do it, and that is NOT the case. What he is saying about college is true about SOME of the majors, but NOT all and he does a shitty job of clarifying. This country needs a good mixture of both, because if we don't have both we will be on the first boat to a third world country.

    • @RomanFrolow
      @RomanFrolow 2 месяца назад

      I agree that that maybe the case in US that degree is required for may programming jobs. Not so in EU.
      Also only very talented people will get $180k job after 6 months of coding camp.
      But I think Charlie is right that college is a scam for most of non-stem degrees.

    • @elite950
      @elite950 2 месяца назад +3

      @@wittyedge I'm sorry to be that one but I'm speaking from experience...I took a 4 month coding bootcamp that helps you get in the tech industry with no college degree (having no college degree is a requirement to sign up). The organization has a lot of connections and partnerships that will take on the graduates from the program and continue training them while giving them on job experience. So yeah, I went through the program and got hired working for an airline company. So far I have 1 year of experience with no college degree. Now what's false is the payment lol, I don't get payed no where near what Charlie mentioned....but if I find another job (from the airline company) with my experience I do have that possiblity.

    • @Qwerboy-zv1mk
      @Qwerboy-zv1mk Месяц назад

      U have hearing problems? The guy literally said "colleges are scams"

  • @NX2-30
    @NX2-30 3 месяца назад +192

    Education does not equal intelligence.

    • @SDZ675
      @SDZ675 3 месяца назад +4

      especially when affirmative action and "donations" are involved.

    • @user-dd8wh3xi6u
      @user-dd8wh3xi6u 3 месяца назад +3

      Many college students are there to party, not learn a marketable skill.

    • @andrecureton6862
      @andrecureton6862 3 месяца назад

      Exactly

    • @daMillenialTrucker
      @daMillenialTrucker 3 месяца назад +3

      I'm 32, I got a GED, I have a class A CDL, own my own trucking company and last year I made $340,000 gross, net $175,000. I have son that I 100% will put through college and will do everything I can to make sure he's #1 Got an edge over these little wannabe pompous assholes #2 Make sure that he moves through life with stoic values so that he can respect everyone, even the difficult pompous wannabe assholes.
      It's hard to believe people raise their kids to think they're better than because of college. These kids are in a rude of awakening when they experience how brutal life can be and WILL BE on them.

    • @PSS521
      @PSS521 2 месяца назад

      True but it opens doors to thick 6 figure salaries and we need doctors and engineers

  • @peestrem31
    @peestrem31 2 месяца назад +70

    "The world is full of educated fools" - Calvin Coolidge

    • @Shayzare
      @Shayzare Месяц назад

      Same ones that designed the computer you are talking on now. Wow!🤡🤡

    • @LoganDaSlapper
      @LoganDaSlapper Месяц назад

      @@Shayzare dude you burning them again!! wow you just got the sauce, don't you?! golly you just let'em rip.

    • @Shayzare
      @Shayzare Месяц назад

      @@LoganDaSlapper Gee wilikeers, Oh Goosh 🤡🫡

    • @LoganDaSlapper
      @LoganDaSlapper Месяц назад +1

      @@Shayzare you're so good at this bro!! great job!! you should be proud of yourself even though nobody else is.

  • @rsmartin68
    @rsmartin68 3 месяца назад +55

    My friend decided to switch from being an auto mechanic to a computer programmer, the amount of BS classes he was forced to take, that had zero to do with information technology, was staggering. I was able to learn on my own, reading and working experience, and work my way up to network administrator, never set foot in collage.

    • @uglyboi2735
      @uglyboi2735 3 месяца назад

      Can do that too but no matter what, they just want the piece of paper as like eligibility for the job. Despite the knowledge, I'd never ever be able to get the job I want without the paper. It's like you are forced to get it if you want a better life. Canada sucks!

    • @eas_sae
      @eas_sae 3 месяца назад +8

      but you did spell college wrong..

    • @rsmartin68
      @rsmartin68 3 месяца назад +17

      @@eas_sae Never said I could type.

    • @nomorelieseveragain
      @nomorelieseveragain 3 месяца назад +1

      Cool

    • @dosidicusgigas1376
      @dosidicusgigas1376 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@rsmartin68I respect that you didnt even edit it
      We IT professionals dont need spelling or grammar

  • @TheMightyZim
    @TheMightyZim 3 месяца назад +74

    College is like a casino. They want you to stay and spend cash.
    Both will extend credit. 😉

    • @MuzixMaker
      @MuzixMaker 17 дней назад

      And the House always wins.

  • @metalted6128
    @metalted6128 3 месяца назад +13

    25% success rate, for anyone is shameful!!! No business in history would stay in business with that percentage rate, of success.
    ZERO!!!
    The 75% are being scammed!!!
    Please pay attention young adults.

    • @Qwerboy-zv1mk
      @Qwerboy-zv1mk Месяц назад

      Where did you pull that number? From up your ass?

  • @robgarcia3525
    @robgarcia3525 2 месяца назад +9

    This is the best conversation I've seen a kid have with him. Dude actually talked with Charlie, not tantrum ranted.

  • @markhughes6966
    @markhughes6966 3 месяца назад +23

    I questioned my "humanities elective" requirement for the BS in electrical engineering. I was told it provided for a "well-rounded education". I say it was a waste of time and money for what the elective choices offered.

  • @ekinmatanza5853
    @ekinmatanza5853 3 месяца назад +43

    College has become a glorified credentialing institution

    • @ayeayeguide
      @ayeayeguide 3 месяца назад

      It’s been that way for quite awhile now. Once colleges realized they can trick women into all attending… and then they got affirmative action to force in people less qualified they knew they can push silly majors. These people cannot rationalize as well and also assume there is a future job associated with this major. A major shouldn’t be allowed if it’s not able to get a job in the field at a higher percentage. I’d say at least 60% should be able to get a job in the field or it shouldn’t exist.

  • @shamelssmedia4376
    @shamelssmedia4376 3 месяца назад +7

    My sister went to college to be a Respiratory Therapist and after 22 years of working for the University Hospital and after just 22 years started doing Mortgages part time which requires no education, and makes two times more working part time. She became a full time Mortgage officer and never looked back.

  • @bigpapi2658
    @bigpapi2658 3 месяца назад +38

    The problem is is they won’t see the big picture until about four years after they’re out of school and then they will look back and say oh shit why Did I go?

    • @Ididdledyourwife
      @Ididdledyourwife 3 месяца назад

      It’s the old tell tale saying they know nothing of the real world. They’re too stuck in their bubble to see it and only do when it’s too late

    • @mikespex8505
      @mikespex8505 3 месяца назад +3

      That's how I feel.. I can understand these students from a perspective of being in the college but when they get out... It's like oh fuck...

    • @Qwerboy-zv1mk
      @Qwerboy-zv1mk Месяц назад

      Well there's always going to be a big difference between some who is focus on passing with the best score and someone whose just lazing around and hoping to get the pass mark 😅

    • @troytheboy1985
      @troytheboy1985 9 дней назад

      @@mikespex8505 no one wants to go I've just got myself stuck into so much debt I am stuck for life, there acting out cause they are stupid

  • @nikkimerry7950
    @nikkimerry7950 Месяц назад +2

    I dropped out of junior college after I realized how much debt I’d have by the time I graduated. Instead I went to work and bought my first home when I was 21 in Orange County, CA. It worked out well for me when I sold it for 4x after 7 years, bought another home and an apartment building. In my opinion Homeownership is more important than a piece of paper.

  • @josem-hq2vg
    @josem-hq2vg 3 месяца назад +27

    This is why I dropped out of college because I was getting in debt for being forced to take classes I had already taken in high school. I had one class that had to do with how to lose weight and calories and all that stuff and that had nothing to do with what I wanted to do which was HR.

    • @danka1167
      @danka1167 2 месяца назад

      I mean that is a good class that should be taught, we have a massive obesity issue

    • @danieltaylor4849
      @danieltaylor4849 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@danka1167 But why should it be required for a non medical major?

    • @dosidicusgigas1376
      @dosidicusgigas1376 Месяц назад +1

      I wrote a book report (the book was a story about illegal immigration) and the student teacher docked my grade (went from A to a B) because I used the term illegal immigrant instead of just calling them migrants.
      I explained that its extremely important to use proper language because legal and illegal immigrants have vastly different experiences, from their journey to housing to employment.
      Ultimately my arguments were against the process of illegal immigration because of the dangers during the crossing (cartels, human trafficking, weapons smugling, etc).
      So yeah my grade was lowered for "offensive language".
      At least I can enjoy the fact that as a computer technician I am rich compared to any Anthropology grad

    • @angelh3771
      @angelh3771 19 дней назад

      ​@@dosidicusgigas1376this right hear, is a major problem in our schools!!! From kindergarten through college. This is unacceptable.

  • @justinS8522
    @justinS8522 2 месяца назад +4

    The first guy made the scam argument for you, four years of college and it takes you to the age of 40 to recoup your costs, half your life to pay off four years I wouldn't know how to explain scam better than that.

  • @jeromebarnes963
    @jeromebarnes963 3 месяца назад +13

    Why can't most college students admit that they don't know something,why do they have to portray themselves as knowledgable about a topic when it's clear they aren't. The student asked how is college a scam and then demonstrated how it's a scam by his responses.

    • @YourMoms78
      @YourMoms78 2 месяца назад +2

      They have to justify their idiotic choice to go into a lifetime of debt so that their fee-fees don't get hurt

    • @bobjeff1243
      @bobjeff1243 Месяц назад

      @@YourMoms78exactly. its not the colleges fault but the person. instead of blaming colleges blame the person and the college will stop offering the major.

  • @rep1877
    @rep1877 2 месяца назад +11

    i found the first debate was really civil and educational.

  • @fernandop1
    @fernandop1 2 месяца назад +4

    9:45 *In Aldi, you can only be a district manager if you have a college degree only because Aldi feels pitty about graduated people who can't find a related job, with NO EXPERIENCE in retail needed. You can be a store manager and can't escalate to DM, only a college degree person with no job can be disctric managers, they train you.* You now can graduate of something and work in something totally unrelated.

  • @jaycurse751
    @jaycurse751 3 месяца назад +27

    My wife went to university for many years for a few unrelated things. We now have chickens and sell eggs. Very happily mind you but yeah... She probably didn't need the paper haha

    • @martybyrde1105
      @martybyrde1105 2 месяца назад

      Yeah she probably makes more money than you, and you dragged her to go to farm where you make small money

    • @dosidicusgigas1376
      @dosidicusgigas1376 Месяц назад +1

      Is she a renowned PHD in the behavioral sciences and culture of chickens?
      Because if not Id be dissapointed

    • @clutch5sp989
      @clutch5sp989 28 дней назад

      I bet she learned in college that the chiggun came before the egg.

  • @kimberlybeeson6090
    @kimberlybeeson6090 3 месяца назад +6

    My father had a 5th grade education and still became a manager of an Exxon mobil gas station in Dallas, Tx. Then he also became a self taught siding application on homes and done beautiful work!

    • @MikeSmith-rh5gc
      @MikeSmith-rh5gc Месяц назад

      My supervisor that was in charge of a freight shipping shift had an 8th grade education and went to Florida and thought he saw the Pacific Ocean and thought a swastika was the Russian flag. Some people are smart like your dad and some people are just stupid that have no business being in charge. He was a horrible supervisor and he should have been a ditch digger

  • @debell33320001
    @debell33320001 3 месяца назад +26

    Charlie Kirk is absolutely right about students taking jobs that don't require a college degree. I have been to college for 10 years from 1990 to 2000 and took on cleaning jobs for income. Trust me, if I could turn back the clock, I wouldn't waste my time with the college courses. I would take engineering classes or a trade school.

    • @Qwerboy-zv1mk
      @Qwerboy-zv1mk Месяц назад

      Isn't that coz u were just being stupid and getting or pursuing a useless degree?

  • @RochScoot507
    @RochScoot507 2 месяца назад +12

    The amount of people attempting to justify one of the worst financial decisions you can make rn is astounding

    • @Qwerboy-zv1mk
      @Qwerboy-zv1mk Месяц назад

      If u don't want to pay a lot then go to some not so expensive college? Or if you really want to go to that expensive prestigious one then go do some scholarship exams

    • @RochScoot507
      @RochScoot507 29 дней назад

      @@Qwerboy-zv1mk even community college value proposition isn’t great most times. There are definitely things like scholarships and stuff that help but not everyone can get a scholarship

    • @Qwerboy-zv1mk
      @Qwerboy-zv1mk 29 дней назад

      @@RochScoot507 🙄🙄well work harder?

  • @dylanfarist5600
    @dylanfarist5600 3 месяца назад +8

    My sister graduated in December with a bachelor’s degree in fine arts majoring in graphic design. She currently works in a print and sign shop where no degree is required at all.

    • @martybyrde1105
      @martybyrde1105 2 месяца назад

      Then leave and find a better job, problem solved.

    • @martybyrde1105
      @martybyrde1105 2 месяца назад

      You act like its the only job for her with her degree

    • @Qwerboy-zv1mk
      @Qwerboy-zv1mk Месяц назад

      I don't really know that proves that college is a scam that's more like personal skill issue

  • @IgnoreMeImWrong
    @IgnoreMeImWrong 2 месяца назад +4

    Charlie Kirk is taking advantage of college students by educating them for free and they don't need to engage or attend. Now, I've heard it all.

  • @JohnSmith-hv6ks
    @JohnSmith-hv6ks 3 месяца назад +6

    you're forgetting one thing. College is the biggest congregation of legal adolescents. It's basically a giant house party. its FOMO.

  • @russeato919
    @russeato919 2 месяца назад +3

    Becoming a plumber 10 years ago was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made financially. 0% student loans. 100% financial freedom. I was brainwashed that I could never achieve a 6 figure salary without a degree.

  • @rebelliousfineart8202
    @rebelliousfineart8202 3 месяца назад +11

    Referring to the kid talking about writers and artists. I am both, I also produce music. Beyond that I’ve done everything from working in the medical field to working in the oilfield and I’ve been successful in every avenue of my pursuit. I dropped out of high school and dropped out of my first semester of college.

  • @jefferyhough1654
    @jefferyhough1654 3 месяца назад +23

    Look I make $130,000 a year just to run heavy equipment, demoing houses doing land clearing and demoing With just a high school diploma and have been working on the blue collar side of America my entire career between doing concrete work, machinist worker tree work, and now equipment operating and never went to college to think about it, no real debt to start out and start out making decent money to begin with and a manual labor style of life so that the debt interest and all that by time they pay it all off really did they make more than us because they have so much they have to pay for the return was great. They were still in college. I was 4 to 6 years ahead of them.

    • @aliceinwundrland
      @aliceinwundrland 3 месяца назад

      yup. and white collar jobs are so badly over saturated (at least here in Canada), half the time they spend years even getting into the field they paid to work in. blue collar workers keep our country flowing, especially here in Alberta Canada where all the oil is, but hardly anybody wants to get their hands dirty anymore.

    • @Jagger-lc1fe
      @Jagger-lc1fe 3 месяца назад

      I'm not trying to be demonstrative, I'm really not...being genuine here...but not everyone is good with their hands or is a kinesthetic learner. I'm not going to argue for the people that just don't like to get their hands dirty. I'm saying that everybody has varying attributes by which they excel at and varying ways of being able to learn something. If college is taken out of the equation, what are those people supposed to do then?

    • @aliceinwundrland
      @aliceinwundrland 3 месяца назад

      @@Jagger-lc1fe of course you’re right - i’m just talking about the majority. Especially with my generation (gen z) i’m noticing most of them barely scraping the grades to pass through university, and then to *hopefully* graduate and wait years to get into that designated field, or completely go into a different job field. and what i see a lot of is them going to work at a place like starbucks with a 50k degree under their belt.
      but honestly, as i said, a big part of my generation has little to no work ethic, and continues to waste money on degrees like gender studies and liberal arts.

    • @Jagger-lc1fe
      @Jagger-lc1fe 3 месяца назад +1

      @@aliceinwundrland No disagreement on your points. I'd like to think I have a decent work ethic. I'd like to think I put my time in when I go to work. But I know that If go into a school for some trade everyone else there will excel more so than I and will therefore be more marketable than me and they will get all the job offers I won't.
      Only thing I am advocating for is not to just do away with college, but to better hone in on skills and ideas that WILL benefit young adults. Hell, that stuff should start in high school in all honesty. Plus create education plans that are particular to the field they are doing so they aren't doing pointless classes.

    • @aliceinwundrland
      @aliceinwundrland 3 месяца назад

      @@Jagger-lc1fe agree! i don’t think our society or economy would be successful without our white collar workers! they’re just as important in many ways.

  • @holycow6390
    @holycow6390 Месяц назад +3

    16:28 "I know you talking points better then you do" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @AllAroundGeeks
    @AllAroundGeeks 3 месяца назад +15

    That second dude was all over the place

  • @robertarichardson4927
    @robertarichardson4927 3 месяца назад +8

    My son is graduating from a major Uni in Scotland next month. My oldest graduated from NIU. The number of BS classes that my older son took is so evident now that I have watched my youngest. In what took 4 yrs in the states, only took three in Scotland. My youngest has a degree that works for him immediately, my oldest is still looking for that job (15 yrs later)

  • @mur6822
    @mur6822 3 месяца назад +5

    My BIL got a masters in sports medicine. He painted and worked in construction to pay his way through school...He opened his own painting business and makes over $100k a year.

  • @ferdinandsiegel4470
    @ferdinandsiegel4470 3 месяца назад +13

    The fault falls on both and the government.

  • @BaroqueBlues
    @BaroqueBlues 3 месяца назад +14

    This is probably the only long form college debate he has on the internet... For some reason he usually only posts the short clips separately. Please post more long format content like this.

    • @JoF_56
      @JoF_56 2 месяца назад +1

      On his actual channel he posts full videos as well as clips

  • @davidpowelson4817
    @davidpowelson4817 3 месяца назад +5

    I am 49, and yes my College time and student loan was a waste. It took a while before I realized this.

  • @mattskrabak5496
    @mattskrabak5496 3 месяца назад +34

    Trade schools actually lead to better paying jobs

    • @brianburgess3231
      @brianburgess3231 3 месяца назад +1

      initially

    • @Ididdledyourwife
      @Ididdledyourwife 3 месяца назад

      ⁠@@brianburgess3231initially? so they make less money over time?

    • @latimerav196
      @latimerav196 3 месяца назад +1

      How? Everyone I know that went through college, including me (engineering, medical, etc) is making more than double any of the trade school people I know.

    • @jdizzle1939
      @jdizzle1939 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@latimerav196 I make more than all my friends with degrees. Now figure in what school costs and the debt people go in for it. Is it better to make 40 dollars per hr and be in debt $300,000 or 35 dollars per hr with no debt? I'm a barber and make a minimum $20 every $10 to $15 minutes. Not counting tips which can be between $50 and $150 extra per day. I live in an area that's considered one of the cheapest places to live in the country.

    • @brianburgess3231
      @brianburgess3231 3 месяца назад

      @@jdizzle1939 initially

  • @lightsource9263
    @lightsource9263 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for contributing to make this society better Charlie. What you do is for everyone. What a college graduate mostly does is for himself.

  • @StringofPearls55
    @StringofPearls55 3 месяца назад +8

    God bless Charlie for answering the same old questions over and over.

    • @StringofPearls55
      @StringofPearls55 3 месяца назад +1

      @@frenchfred3 Yeah, college students aren't the brightness.

    • @aidengrimm1033
      @aidengrimm1033 3 месяца назад

      @@frenchfred3 Stupid to you, but reputable, factual arguments to all of us here. I don’t understand what part of this video you get the word “stupid” from other than the re-curring questions from college students.
      I used to be a registered Democrat last election. You know what aided my switch? The fact that some of the left (not all) supports Hamas and their endeavors.
      For crying out loud those people are terrorists, they abide by Sharia Law which is eye for an eye, hand for a hand. There’s no other way to look at that, and yes it’s sad for Palestine as a whole I agree but Hamas has been making their citizens suffer for LITERAL decades by funding weapons rather than humanitarian aid. Now all of a sudden they pin up 20k civilian deaths from Israel (which recently got proven to be half as true as what Hamas was saying; they said 20k and it’s actually 10k.) Regardless, one child killed is too many.
      I genuinely hope this reaches you not with an angry tone, but an informative one. And by no means I am trying to attack you, just sharing my personal whirlwind from supporting ANTIFA and ACAB to where I am now.

  • @garyhall2770
    @garyhall2770 3 месяца назад +8

    I thought it was hilarious that after 2 semesters in college all of a sudden I needed to take an Economics class for my degree in Criminal Justice but the semester after taking the class I no longer needed the Economics class for my degree.
    That right there is the definition of a scam. And I can't be the only person this bait and switch for a particular needed class disappeared from the needed classes for their degree.

  • @xnsjkskdj9795
    @xnsjkskdj9795 3 месяца назад +7

    Asking qualification to say College is a scam? 😂 Kid, life out there is so different, you'll realize later on how its a scam

    • @Qwerboy-zv1mk
      @Qwerboy-zv1mk Месяц назад +1

      Lemme see a highschool graduate perform an operation let me see him engineer smth let me see him fight a case in court or public administration

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. Месяц назад +1

      @@Qwerboy-zv1mk
      Charlie addressed this in the video. It is free to watch

    • @Qwerboy-zv1mk
      @Qwerboy-zv1mk Месяц назад

      @@Jonathan-A.C. meh i ain't going to waste time watching someone else YAPPING with no brain

  • @trigthycrazy6561
    @trigthycrazy6561 2 месяца назад +11

    Dropped out mid 11th grade, No high-school degree or show of 12 years paper, no college degree.
    Age 34 and no issues getting a job, gaining high position in my work place. Mentoring and training people under my supervision. Factory to trucking. My worth is in my work ethics, and actions I make for my company. Education doesn't make a successful life.

    • @yesblocky
      @yesblocky 2 месяца назад +2

      Stop lying bro, you're 6.

    • @trigthycrazy6561
      @trigthycrazy6561 2 месяца назад +2

      @yesblocky You're a mama's boy. Sorry, your father wasn't a big part of your life.

    • @yesblocky
      @yesblocky 2 месяца назад

      @@trigthycrazy6561 If you're really 34 and this immature and cringe, you're a disgrace and I'd like to meet whoever raised you. Otherwise, get off the iPad and go do your homework.

    • @yesblocky
      @yesblocky 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@trigthycrazy6561 If you're realy 34 and are this immature and cringe, you are a disgrace. And I would love to know who raised you. Otherwise, put down the iPad and go do your homework.

    • @yesblocky
      @yesblocky 2 месяца назад

      @@trigthycrazy6561 If you're realy 34 and are this immature and cringe, you are a disgrace. And I would love to know who raised you. Otherwise, put down the iPad and go do your homework.

  • @echave3527
    @echave3527 2 месяца назад +4

    I've learned more at my trucking job in 4 years than I ever learned of 12 years of school.

  • @michaelnielson3978
    @michaelnielson3978 3 месяца назад +8

    The kid about 20 minutes in is literally arguing one of Charlie's points. I actually think this was a mistake by Charlie. Because he shouldn't have argued. He should have just said that's my point. People here for hard sciences need to be here. People here for worthless degrees are getting scammed

  • @willardmeese6222
    @willardmeese6222 3 месяца назад +3

    My step Dad could not read or write but still made a good living for our family , I am almost 60 and have never had to have a college degree to do any job I have done and I have a lot of them under my belt .

  • @harrycordes400
    @harrycordes400 Месяц назад +1

    Dropped out of college after 2 years, I make 115k and work 30 hours a week working in sales. College is a scam and dropping out was the best decision I ever made,

  • @DiceMan72
    @DiceMan72 3 месяца назад +4

    A very good mate of mine started uni in Melbourne Australia and left after 4 weeks.
    His reason...."mate its nothing more than breeding ground for activists"

  • @Justheretowatch321
    @Justheretowatch321 3 месяца назад +2

    Most classes are a waste of time. I went to become a pharmacist and I will never understand why I had to take political science and a film class to learn medicine. Let’s just be real. College wouldn’t be a waste of time if you ONLY took classes relevant to your field. No one will convince me I needed film class to be a pharmacist 😅

  • @1bite-
    @1bite- 2 месяца назад +3

    Dude dropped gauss’ name as if I needed to know who the hell he is to use gauss law

  • @user-gr5ru4gg6s
    @user-gr5ru4gg6s 3 месяца назад +2

    Basic skills to survive used to be taught in high schools: Driving, ,accounting, woodworking, automotive, plumbing, cooking, electrician, etc..

  • @johnnyappleseed2058
    @johnnyappleseed2058 3 месяца назад +3

    Charlie is missing one key reason these so called students ignore these good paying jobs that don't require a college degree i.e. they involve physical effort -- Can you say LAZY!

  • @DirectorBrazil
    @DirectorBrazil 20 дней назад

    I’m a high school dropout legal immigrant from Brazil to America and I have created multiple seven figure businesses and provide jobs for Americans. Charlie is right.

  • @Matabang1
    @Matabang1 3 месяца назад +6

    I went to bard college, in 1987…17k a year… I attended on an “ auditors” program…..paid $200 per class…. Got the education and college experience I wanted…then moved back home to start a band🤔🍻

    • @99999myk
      @99999myk 3 месяца назад

      And then you became rich and famous just to spread your wealth on RUclips watchers.

    • @timmahoney2541
      @timmahoney2541 3 месяца назад +1

      You rock

  • @user-qv8il6nl2v
    @user-qv8il6nl2v 2 месяца назад +2

    4th guy was missing the whole point he just proved Charlie’s whole point. College works for certain people but vast majority just get scammed

    • @Qwerboy-zv1mk
      @Qwerboy-zv1mk Месяц назад

      Scammed more like they don't work hard enough

  • @Denis1104
    @Denis1104 3 месяца назад +4

    Shout out to the two ex-military bodyguards behind Charlie :)

  • @pokmanny
    @pokmanny Месяц назад +2

    The religious studies class, sociology class, international studies class in college has nothing to do with my job

  • @animal482
    @animal482 3 месяца назад +5

    These kids have buyers remorse and are coping and seething... hard AF

  • @crazyhorsewest4605
    @crazyhorsewest4605 2 месяца назад +1

    "what are your qualifications for having any economic knowledge at all, when likely the vast majority of students know more than you about economics as a whole?"
    " who is Milton Friedman?"
    "I have no idea and that's not important to this conversation."
    Disturbingly hilarious, you can't even make it up at this point. I'm not the sharpest tool in the blunt shed, but jesus I know who bloody Friedman is.

  • @user-ym9mv4df3n
    @user-ym9mv4df3n 3 месяца назад +9

    Love Charlie but walmart managers are not making $400k, lol

    • @kempana9414
      @kempana9414 3 месяца назад +9

      A little misleading in what he says, but the average salary is $128,000 a year and can earn up to $400,000 and that's per Walmart.

    • @wes5990
      @wes5990 3 месяца назад +6

      @@kempana9414so he’s right then lol

    • @user-ym9mv4df3n
      @user-ym9mv4df3n 3 месяца назад

      @@kempana9414 not what I'm seeing

  • @symonvang1078
    @symonvang1078 3 месяца назад +2

    My aunt got her masters in Social Work and makes really good money. My dad got his GED, started in a trade right after, and makes nearly double of what my aunt makes.

  • @USSBB62
    @USSBB62 3 месяца назад +4

    British Petroleum will hire you as a certified welder starting at 96 thousand a year. Requirements; Certified Welder,, Show up to work on time, Do what we tell you to do. After one year of probation. After which You are elagable for overtime and then sky is the limit for pay.

    • @Jagger-lc1fe
      @Jagger-lc1fe 3 месяца назад

      Everywhere I've looked when it comes to trades they want you to have experience. Which is paradoxal because you need the jobs to get said experience. I'm really not making excuses when I ask this, sincerely....but why do people act like anybody can come into a trade and excel like that? Not everybody is built the same, not everybody learns things the same way. Some people are more of a visual learner while others are more kinesthetic.

  • @wtan1851
    @wtan1851 2 месяца назад +1

    CK's message is to think carefully about what you are studying. Avoid useless courses and degrees, which British PM Thatcher closed down in the 1980s.

  • @Okamiden15
    @Okamiden15 3 месяца назад +3

    God, that kid who went "can you do a differential equation" "can you explain human anatomy" pissed me of so much. I'd like him to explain to me how any of that is relevant to his own daily life outside of his classes. How that is relevant to Charlie's daily life. Congrats, you have student debt for a thing that is irrelevant to your life.

  • @RedHairDontCare1
    @RedHairDontCare1 17 дней назад

    I'd be defensive too if I was finding out in real time that I pissed away $50K-$100K and 4 years of my time on a useless degree.

  • @peachesnmulder
    @peachesnmulder 3 месяца назад +3

    What was Russia originally called? The USSR. What did it stand for? United Soviet SOCIALIST Republic. Not, USCR.

  • @goofydog2
    @goofydog2 3 месяца назад +2

    The three - four students who spoke STRONGLY against Charlie were, no doubt, taken by the collar and TOLD to debate Charlie if they wanted extra credit...

    • @SirVillainSr.
      @SirVillainSr. 2 месяца назад

      Are u dumb or trying to be funny?

  • @ferdinandsiegel4470
    @ferdinandsiegel4470 3 месяца назад +4

    The myth of qualifications.

    • @Jagger-lc1fe
      @Jagger-lc1fe 3 месяца назад +1

      Is it though? Even if you learn a trade, you still have to have legit experience and skill at it.

  • @CoachKevanKillsit
    @CoachKevanKillsit 17 дней назад

    After high school I became a framer and got paid to learn the trade. I remember someone joining our crew straight out of community college. The kid spent 2 years and paid money for his education. He lasted less than a week on our crew and found out quickly he had a fear of heights.

  • @Dogmilk235
    @Dogmilk235 3 месяца назад +3

    The Asian guy in the black shirt was so butthurt

  • @SS.WithDrones
    @SS.WithDrones 3 месяца назад +2

    I make six figure without my degree. I have the same mindset like Kirk 6 years ago.
    I’m 27. I work for state, big corp, and currently with as a government contract - US Airforce, NASA, US Marin Corp, so on. Work from home.

  • @origamipein18
    @origamipein18 3 месяца назад +4

    My brain hurt from listening to some of these guys.

    • @martybyrde1105
      @martybyrde1105 2 месяца назад

      Yeah because you probably not have a degree and have short attention span

  • @doofusrickie
    @doofusrickie 2 месяца назад +2

    Nope sorry I knew someone who was a Walmart manager he was living in a crap apartment in a shitty part of town with a roommate and an old hoopty of a car. He was DEF not making $400,000 a year. Thats insanity. Maybe a GM or DM. Not a manager.

  • @moorek1967
    @moorek1967 3 месяца назад +3

    When I went to college, it was really at the very basic Woke level, it was 1985. Back then, college was something you and your family was proud of. Back then, you still had to have a bunch of school credits to even get in, you had to take a certain course of study in high school for what you declared your major to be.

    • @Johnadams20760
      @Johnadams20760 3 месяца назад

      was your collee in califonira? i went in the md 90s and it was not even very basic woke level yet.

    • @moorek1967
      @moorek1967 3 месяца назад

      @@Johnadams20760 Ohio.

    • @Johnadams20760
      @Johnadams20760 3 месяца назад

      @@moorek1967 oh, i am shocked, i mean i graduated and went to school in MIchigan. for engineering though. not sure if that really made a diffrence. however, there was not any leftist woke nonsense whatsoever at all. i mean defintely not "woke" may be a very very slight left leaning. but "woke" didn't even occur anywhere til 10 or so years ago period. but they taught us ho to whink for ourselves at this time. probably the tail en fo that

    • @moorek1967
      @moorek1967 3 месяца назад

      @@Johnadams20760 My Psych 101 professor said to the entire class that there was nothing wrong with drunkeness and that it was a state of mind. He said that if you identify yourself as not drunk, then you are not drunk. Even if you kill someone, as long as you do not identify as drunk then you can't be blamed for drunk driving.
      Then another professor was teaching everything else except Sociology and did not go by the textbook, so I refused to take the final exam with questions that had nothing to do with the class. I protested taking the exam because I knew I had been cheated out of learning Sociology but he said to me that I had to take it or else because he was the professor and don't challenge him. He was wrong, and it went to the Student Advisor who then had a meeting with him and he had to capitulate because nothing he taught was part of Sociology.
      He said to me that I could not challenge him at all because what he says is the only word that matters.
      These are two instances of college wokeism in the base degree in 1985 Wright State University.

    • @Johnadams20760
      @Johnadams20760 3 месяца назад

      @@moorek1967 wow. i guess i never had that experince in college nor did anyone else i know at that time. although i guess i am aware that communists were startign to slowly insert proffessors into colleg in teh very late 60s but i suppose it tok time to manifest

  • @ChinookServices
    @ChinookServices 3 месяца назад +2

    College is for those who aren’t hustlers , they need some time to get it together institutionally after leaving mommy and daddy

  • @Slappy_
    @Slappy_ 3 месяца назад +5

    Farm animals with the nose rings.

  • @bubbaballer88
    @bubbaballer88 12 дней назад

    If a kid doesn’t know how to “work” before college their parents and they
    have done themselves a huge disservice.

  • @jorgepinedagrace
    @jorgepinedagrace 3 месяца назад +4

    Asian dude really thinks solving equations will take you far in life. You'll NEVER need differential equations in real life

    • @yetekt6953
      @yetekt6953 3 месяца назад

      There are bs that will 😊

    • @troytheboy1985
      @troytheboy1985 9 дней назад

      well his getting everything free and most likely will be one of the few fast tracked to a job

  • @JP-ou8yb
    @JP-ou8yb 3 месяца назад +2

    The biggest failure to college education is Affirmative Action and giving participation degrees and not really achieving higher education because of your ethnic background and not your GPA..

  • @quincyking010
    @quincyking010 3 месяца назад +3

    U do not go to college to become a pilot you go to a trainer and get licensed. All you need to be a pilot is a license

  • @user-qv8il6nl2v
    @user-qv8il6nl2v 2 месяца назад +2

    I genuinely hope the 3rd guy is embarrassed cause of how badly he got obliterated in that debate

  • @threewishes777
    @threewishes777 3 месяца назад +3

    11:28 this 🤡 🤣🤣 his mind is gone. Charlie lack qualifications? But some random college kids are more qualify 😂

  • @Newstyle87
    @Newstyle87 2 месяца назад +1

    A large company hiring someone out of college would prefer they were diverse in courses outside their major. This shows the ability to adapt and learn and have knowledge in all areas, not just your major. A diversity class, for example, could be looked at like a waste of time, but companies hiring may see it as a sign of critical thinking, problem-solving, and/or the ability to help deal with DYI structures within the company itself. At the end of the day; any class you take, regardless of what you are learning about is going to show that you are versatile in passing and succeeding in those areas that may or may not come to play at some point in your career.

  • @Khorne_of_the_Hill
    @Khorne_of_the_Hill 3 месяца назад +3

    People who think you need college to be intelligent or educated are such hypocrits

  • @StuckInCali2Long
    @StuckInCali2Long 2 месяца назад +1

    The colleges shouldn't offer useless classes. That IS the responsibility of the college.

  • @jasonhuttermusic424
    @jasonhuttermusic424 17 дней назад

    I have a 4 yr university degree (LSU) and I would counsel any young person wanting a 4 year degree to seriously question why, and then ask themselves if they could get the same degree and credentials with an Assocs. Degree. Universities, outside of law school, med school, hard sciences are a scam and involve crippling debt. Your local community college can usually provide you with a quicker, less expensive education and give you what you need.

  • @danl6553
    @danl6553 15 дней назад

    A kid grown up in the US argues about socialism vs communism. His argument is wrong. Charlie is right.

  • @joeh4295
    @joeh4295 3 месяца назад +1

    I obtained an Associates with my paramedic cert from my local community college. My paramedic program was $11,000 and I earn $60-70K annually depending on my overtime amount. I retired from Active Duty and my combined income is over $120K l, all without a Bachelor's degree. Im comfortable and my mortgage has been paid off for 4 years now.

  • @ImaDogDude
    @ImaDogDude 3 месяца назад +2

    That third kid irritated me. Like he wasn't totally ignorant, but just his ability to debate is atrocious. I was yelling at him to quit interrupting through the phone lmao.

  • @collinbrown4421
    @collinbrown4421 3 месяца назад +1

    I started HVAC as a high school dropout 23 years ago when I was 17. No technical school or even a GED. I got paid to learn the trade and it has given me a very fruitful career. By 2 years I was making more than a college graduate would start at and Ive been making more than what most college graduates would top out at for some time now. It's not easy work and it's not for everybody, but I bet a lot of those college dropouts would have been way better off taking the trades route from the get go.

    • @Jagger-lc1fe
      @Jagger-lc1fe 3 месяца назад

      You said it yourself though that it's not easy work and is not for everybody. If you have built a fruitful career from it that's amazing. All the power to you. But not everybody is you. Not everybody has the aptitudes to learn a trade like you did. If you take college out of the equation, then what route are they supposed to take?

    • @collinbrown4421
      @collinbrown4421 3 месяца назад

      @@Jagger-lc1fe BS. Everybody has the aptitude to learn a trade. I've seen complete idiots master their trade. It's the willingness to show up and work hard. Lots of those dropouts are already going to end up in the trades. It's just a shame they had to take on a bunch of debt as a teenager first. They could have got paid while learning a career instead but kids are told the only path to success is through college. We need to get rid of this myth that you can't get a decent job without that framed piece of paper. Unless you're studying to become a doctor or lawyer or something of that nature it's not needed. Most jobs people are getting out of college can be trained with a lot less than 4 years of schooling.

  • @mollylarson7905
    @mollylarson7905 20 дней назад

    My husband is a big part of hiring within their company. Their best employees do not have college degrees. They actually find those with college degrees to be overall problematic and slightly entitled

  • @xeridea
    @xeridea 2 месяца назад +2

    The one guy seriously was implying you can't call something a scam unless you literally fell for the scam yourself. So the next Nigerian prince to email me I will believe until he siphons my entire life savings.

  • @jared4359
    @jared4359 2 месяца назад +1

    Genuine question: “11 million job openings that do not require a college degree.”
    I may have missed it, but what jobs is Charlie referring to? Like fast food and other jobs? Or like.. corporate jobs and such?
    Thanks for the help!

  • @vanheath5382
    @vanheath5382 3 месяца назад +2

    All the social life building aspect the kids say you get from going to college you could get from attending a church or social club.

  • @shararowley8545
    @shararowley8545 23 дня назад

    My pre teen and teen sons work for families in our church doing odd jobs and help on their farms. They know how to work and to work with others

  • @greghardy9476
    @greghardy9476 8 дней назад

    The kid in the green shirt’s body language is priceless!

  • @JerryElmore-rh6qj
    @JerryElmore-rh6qj Месяц назад

    As a employee of factories for 20 years, engineers had a piece of paper. I had the good fortune of working with a few, very few, that listened to the uneducated, high school graduates. If not for that the company would have lost money. Just because they had that paper did not mean they were right. I proved them on at least 5 counts