John Deere Skidsteer
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Hey guys, Tune in as I make some repairs to this John Deere skidsteer. It may be familiar to some of you, it is a common problem. I wasn't able to complete the job like I normally would have liked but it was beyond my control. Kick back, enjoy your favorite snack and fire up the keyboards. haha. Thank you for your support. I'm looking forward to the comments.
We had a saying at were I used to work, "you can't fix stupid, but you can bill for it!". Wallowed out is the term, and you are correct about how bad it is/was on those hinge/mount points. You do good work and if I was in TX, I would hire you for my equipment repairs, and approve your suggestions. Great work as always!
Love that saying 😂
i work for a Cat dealer and I totally agree !!
I echo that comment
Permission to borrow that statement? 😂
But we say, "It's wallered out and buggered up." ; regardless of spelling. It's a colloquialism.
Your customer is clearly a hack. He brings you a piece of equipment poorly maintained and leaves it to you to clean it? Not surprised. You can tell a lot about a tradesman's skill by the way he keeps his equipment. I'd turn that guy away in the future. Not worth it.
Thanks to this video my father-in-law and I managed to replace the pins on my JD 333d saving myself around $6500. The local John Deere construction repair shop wanted over $8k to do this work. Mine was not in a bad of shape as this one but we still had to cut and reweld. Thanks to this video for showing us the way!!!!
Right on man, glad it helped. You can send the appreciation check to address - - - - - - Haha, kidding bud. Glad it worked out for ya!
In most cases the customer could have the part cleaned up before they bring it to you. Great job as usual! 👍
Cleaning prior to any repair should be mandatory
@@BravoSeven Going by the fact that their idea of "maintenance" is to throw 16 buckets of grease at a loose hole... i'd say no.
It boggles the mind, with these types, that just don't get that preventative maintenance and biting the bullet when major repairs are in order is always the right choice.
I've never seen half-assed work that pays off. Not in the long term. That's why we can buy 10 machines at half price to make 1 good one. Because they went out of business "being smart".
@@jeromebarrette954 I weld for a garbage disposal plant occasionally and that is one thing that they have to do before I weld or I will do it myself and charge accordingly.
Where I work we get a lot of machines from the landfill. You can easily spend a day or 2 just cleaning the machine off to start doing the repairs. After getting billed at full shop rate several times, the finally wisened up some and clean them off the best they can.
@@SuperSecretSquirell sometimes it takes a little pain of pocket before they get the idea🤷🏼♂️
If your customer did not know you dont work weekends he did not ask enough questions of you
People dont understand the meaning of a PROPER repair VS. getting the machine back in the field and hoping it still works
Excellent video sir
Dont compromise your work for anyone
Always do the best work possible
There is that old sign that needs to be up in every shop
I can do it right, I can do it cheap, I can do it fast - Pick any two
I truly admire how you include all of the start to finish; “down and dirty” aspects of the job! Not just the PRESTO, all done approach. Learn a lot from you and appreciate the thought and labor you put into each job! You are so blessed to have your Pop still with you and helping!🙏. Another PROPER job by Isaac and Family!⭐️⭐️😇⭐️⭐️⭐️
I'd like to meet him. A true craftsman.
I appreciate that!
Having the opportunity to work with both your Dad and your Son is really cool. Every time I watch your videos I learn something and am extremely impressed with your pride in workman ship.
I appreciate that!
@@ICWeld we’re did you get the DCEP decal on your hood I’ve been trying to find it everywhere I really like that one. Thanks for the content man keep up the amazing work hope you and your family have a great day
You can tell this was going to be a mess by the poor condition of the skidsteer. If a guy doesn't take good care of his own equipment... he's probably not going to pay someone else to fix things correctly. You did the best you could.. with what they allowed you to do!
Same thing in the industrial mechanic world. Just get it running, right or wrong. One of the reasons I don’t enjoy the job at times. Save a buck to just have it break again in a couple months
Heh. I had a platoon sergeant in the Army who used to say "If you want it real bad (meaning in a hurry), you'll get it real bad." Words of wisdom :-)
I am a remodeling and repair carpenter, that does some welding to boot, and I am always amazed at how people who have never done "the work" know "what it should take" and "how long it should take" to do a repair job.
And they want it done for 0 money to boot.
Got to love it when the "patient" tells the "surgeon" how to do a heart transplant... well done on the surgery, doc!
Good Day Amigo,
I think i need to visit Texas again. It's been a long time.
You are so casual about setting "rests" that I'm sure many don't notice how effective it is to have good "steady rests" and checking your work swing.
I did work for a farmer for four years (after retiring from the "Big Yellow Worm") that thought it important to wash the "tools" before we greased!. Thusly, we didn't find those killer damages in the field and a long way from the shop!~!!!!!!
I'd sure like to see you "teaching" at our community college. We are of course in the heart of corn and bean growing. "Farms" are getting bigger and huge comp
ared to 25 years ago. They have begun a program that concentrates on the hard skills.
I am totally amazed every time I watch you "cut/gouge"!!~!!!!~!!!!~~~!!!!!
They may say the customer is always right. The customer is not always right but they are still the customer...... Well, you don't have to serve him again!!!!!!
I really hate to say it but it looks like folks bring you projects that others can't fix or screwed up the repair to begin with.
You are a trooper and I really appreciate these videos and your dedication to an profession that is losing interest!
No need to hate saying it. That's a tribute. Competence is rare in the world and valuable.
A valuable repair man dose what the customer wants. And delivers the best product he can . I feel your pain dealing with wants vr right . But that's why we get work . We make it work anybody can throw on all new parts
It's not properly repaired though..that was more or less a field expedient repair just to get the machine back in operation...it WILL fail prematurely because the cust didn't want to repair it properly...good on him for documenting it and ensuring it won't blow back on him when it does fail again and the cust tries to litigate because it didn't "run like new"
You're correct about over greasing and not cleaning grease points.
Too much is almost as bad as not enough.
Equipment should be washed weekly and prior to services to detect leaks and potential issues.
Great video.
I thought it was easier to detect leaks when there’s dirt on the machine
@@Johnnyreengo With a clean machine you can find where it's leaking and what type of fluid is leaking easier when it's clean.
The dirt absorbs the fluid and just shows wetness.
@@tct9mm151 But the dirt shows the tracks of where is has been leaking. Also, if it's clean when a mechanic looks at it, lots of small leaks can't be seen. I like to look over things when they are dirty so I can trace back to where the leak comes from.
Dirt it’s attached to the oil and leaves visible track lines.
"Too much grease is almost as bad as not enough"
Hahahahahaha
There are very rare grease points that can be greased too much, like under the cab on an excavator, but other than those rare examples, there's no such thing as too much grease. You'll just waste grease as it's pouring out of the joint but the joint will continuously take grease and won't hurt a thing.
As someone who spends 8-10hrs a day operating a skidsteer, I don't understand how someone lets that get half that bad. That is literally right in front of the operators face every time the bucket tips.
Considering the boss sent used parts for the repair, he's probably just cheap and didn't want to spend the money before. I used to work in a machine shop like that, they had one cnc mill that was so bad that it couldn't make a round hole with a boring head. When he finally got a tech to look at it the spindle was sagging almost 1/16"
Sometimes you tell the boss something needs to be done and he says "just keep running it".
@@Gyppor As an operator myself, there is a point that I'd tell him top run it himself, and that's long before it gets to this state. I've done it many times. Had this been caught when it first happened, it likely could have just been tightening or replacing a bolt. I'm extra picky about the arms and bucket, as they're getting raised above my head all the time. I don't want a headache or to get trapped inside the machine(as a coworker did last year when I was laid off, literally ripped the backs out of the arms)
@@mattsirmans9146 I still say operator error. Had it been caught when it first happened, which is easy to see as it's right in front of the operators face, it could have been as simple as tightening a loose bolt, something any competent operator should be able to do.
@@ravenbarsrepairs5594 Unfortunately the problem is that a lot of equipment owners don't value a good operator. They're looking for the cheapest person they can put in that seat, particularly when it comes to skid steers, they'll stick some kid in there who knows how to play a video game and let him figure it out. I'm 58 now and got on my first tractor when I was about 10, I've probably got between 8 and 10,000 hours just in skid steers and I see this all the time.
I have a deep admiration for you fellas that work on heavy equipment. Seems it’s always covered in grease, oil, and mud. The owners and operators rarely give the machines proper maintenance. They call in the professionals (like Isaac) to perform miracles in the field and always gripe about the cost. My hat is off to you, Isaac. Bless you and yours.
Dad does good work. He needs a BIG raise.
Isaac, that's a repair it "Right", tell him the cost, then tell him to pay you what he thinks he owes you. If he shorts you from a fair and square job, then you thank him for not ever bringing his repair work to you again. Make sure there are witnesses to the transaction and don't say another word. The stars will align. Your rep will soar as one who does the job to be done...once. The only guys he will be able to get to work on his equipment are the ones who would cost him anyway. "Wallered"....good word in central Texas. I've used it all my 71 years.
Got the "uncleaned machine" T shirt many times over. Farmer's (who most of my mobile welding repair work is for) never clean their machines or whatever it is that needs repairing prior to my arrival.
I also understand the situation with customers wanting to cut corners. I had a customer recently that wanted me to weld a headstock to a headstock by the "just mig it on" method. In other words do a hot glue gun style stick them together and it will do. Havnig looked at it and decided it couldn't be safely done in an hour, I took him the parts back and advices him to stick together himself. Politely of course!
Interesting video because you show a way of aligning the taper cones and the pitfalls of working with some customers. Much respect!
When a customer comes to a professional and wants something done half assed they need to specify how they want it done. You should have a sign that says your a professional shop and you do excellent work so if you want half done work go to a shop that does half the work 👍
A steam cleaner is money in the bank, saves on repair bills and when it does need repaired the person working on it will like you more and know you have pride in your equipment.
Man, when this thing starts to burn you can call "Red" Adair to blast the fire out. Anyway good work as always and you are absolutely right with the use of old and new parts together with this. 😁
Thanks Issac.., enjoyed watching the rebuild process. As far as shortcuts. Cheap is as cheap does.
You live by my motto- Do it right or don't do it at all.
Some people spend more money on beer than on their machines and then cry when the machine breaks down.
Good honest work as usual. Thanks.
Great video brother!!
Your so right on shortcuts. It usually causes double work!👍👍👍
Wanted to see a great stack of dimes. Needs to be steam cleaned. Very clear video.
Isaac I always enjoy your sense of humor & professional approach to doing the job the right the first time. Your skill level using carbon arc gouging is impressive. More guys would use
less grinding wheels if the utilized more carbon arc gouging in many applications. Anther good video!
Sounds like one of those customers that you will be too busy for next time. I'm sure he will tell you "BUT I'M YOUR BEST CUSTOMER!!!"
IC Weld is the most wholesome welder on RUclips I've ever come across. It isn't just the talent and years of experience he clearly has, it's the whole ethos and attitude behind it.
Much love from Australia.
The only thing that could make IC Weld any better would be that if he were from Oklahoma and not Texas.
The great part about being a sm. business owner is being able to tell customers to pack sand. I've chosen to not do business with rude people on the front end and did it with a smile on my face. If they are a jerk before doing business with them, imagine what they'll be like after...
This customer might be angry that he has brainless equipment operators and he's taking his frustration out on you. Definitely a good choice to document the customer declining the recommended repairs. Either he'll figure things out the hard way, or he'll be out of business in a few years, if that long. Great job. You did the best you could.
I’m not a welder or no where near but I like looking at your videos 💪🏻
Great vid as usual, Isaac. I am shocked to see the level of neglect evidenced on this machine. It probably hasn’t had that much attention since it was manufactured, but you bite your tongue and do your magic. 🙏🏼
Been watching your channel for a while now, like how you work and lets get it done approach. your the professor of weld. Keep up the good work.
You do excellent work, they should notice that and listen.
Wow the least they could have done was wash off all the grease and dirt and such before bringing it to you to fix !! I think you did a great job fixing everything !! Great video as always and top quality work !!👍👍
Doing things the right way. Great. I love to work like that too.
I happy you documented it to that machine will not last as long as it should with those short cuts
Hopefully someday you will get a customer to will take the time to clean their equipment just a little before you get to repair it!
I hope so too
Amazing how people only want band-aids when the doctor clearly knows that the patient needs surgery.
But, the customer is always right 😉 They can waste their money how they see fit I guess.
You still do amazing work even if the penny pincher wont approve the the work to actually repair things correctly.
I hope you pay your helper (dad) well! He looks like a keeper.
Interesting to hear your greasing theories!!!
if you had your son out there working you have three generations working that old John Deere
You did the best you could do in advice, work and ethics. It's great that we're all able to now record the goofs and problems as we proceed. My hat's off to you for maintaining your reputation and common sense! Thanks for another great video and life lesson!
Isaac your level of skills is top notch. Your son is lucky to learn from you.
Customer is always right in matters of taste.
Half measures availed us nothing! Is something I learned many years ago!
I would be embarrassed to bring in a repair that was so filthy and packed full of grease . obvious no regard for you, the repair person . , and to cheap out on a proper repair . these are the same people that will biatch about " can't get good repair people anymore, they want to make a million on one job"
Kudos !
Bloody unreal
They couldnt be bothered to spend a bit more money and get it done write. What a wally. Like you said at least you got it documemted that he wanted the short cut. It must piss you off when you get customers like that . YOUR work is so good but idiots like that only want a half done job. I wouldn't be doing any more work for him. You obviously cannot give a guarantee under those conditions. He should of done it himself. Lol. Great work. THANKYOU Andy Australia
Always happy to get the work Isaac, and in my younger days, I would pretty much take on any job that came in. Now that I’m sixty-one, and retired for the most part have done my time. I will do some jobs for lifelong customers or friends, but find myself refusing work. Just some of these that were never maintained or improperly maintained, and a lot that are just plain neglected! Way too many out there want the quick fix, not the right fix! IMHO. You are a craftsman, and a credit to the trade!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️😇⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Sometimes it’s better to walk away from a customer like that, more trouble than their worth. Especially when your reputation comes into question. 👍🏴
You are skilled craftsman not a hack. It's better to turn away some jobs. I have learned this from my 17 years in my current trade, there is the right way or the highway. If something goes wrong and someone gets hurt because the customer wanted you to "farm tech" the repair you will be surely be named in the lawsuit and the customer will be floating the river "da Nile". CYA and demand professionalism and standards from your customers. It will pay out in the long run. I would have told the customer to bring the machine back when it was cleaned and provided a writen quote with the requred parts and procedures to repair the machine. If they don"t want to do it correctly then let them go elsewhere. I will say it again you are a skilled professional craftsman.
Dad did a great clean up and prep job !!
Does any other manufacturer use an electric actuator for the power quick attach?
CASE/New Holland use a small hydraulic cylinder for each pin and Bobcat uses a similar linkage design as this Deere but a hydraulic cylinder instead of the electric linear actuator
I am surprised you didn't pressure wash all the crud off before you started the repair.
Great job repairing something so badly damaged.
He is a welder/fabricator...not a pressure washer, that should be a billable operation if the cust doesn't deliver it clean
I'd rather work on dirt and grease than mud/ dirt and grease can be scraped off and swept up, just my opinion from working in the feild.
@@tommussington8330
When you have to worked on something that been stream clean. You never want to you work on grease/ mud again. The great thing steam it doesn't make a wet mess.
i replaced bushings and pins on a skidsteer not long ago. the guy i was doing the work for tried to get me to "make do" with what i had to work with. i talked him into buying the actual parts to fix it. cost a whole $260 on a $60k machine. some people are just cheap. but honestly, the guy the work was done for in this video reminds me of a farmer lol
sounds like you may have found one customer to avoid... regardless I hope you do something quickly with regards to your dangler about your philosohy on greasing machines. Coming from someone that repairs destroyed machines that are likely overly greased or poorly greased you really left a cliff hanger there.
I'm not sure if it's intentional or not, but if you're able to leave automatic captioning available it's really helpful and greatly appreciated. I lost most of my hearing recently and so rely on CC a lot more than I used to. I love your videos; I've been watching since just before you turned comments back on (when you smashed your thumb, if I recall :-) ). Keep making videos you enjoy making and we'll enjoy watching them!
I'll go back and add them in a sec
I read slowly so leave CC for a while I’d appreciate that. Thank You Sir
@@ICWeld Thanks man, you're awesome. Again, I really appreciate it and I doubt I'm the only one. I definitely am not expecting you to go through and write out custom CC, but the auto-generated version is pretty good. If you didn't turn off the setting to allow them then it might have just been that I watched the video shortly after it was posted and before it was fully processed. If that was the case, my apologies.
@@ICWeld Holy cow, did you really go through and write out captions?!? That's going above and beyond man. You're a good guy Isaac.
I’d really like to hear your theory on greasing. I respect your knowledge. This was another enjoyable video just like the rest.
Bad design by deere...but as extreme as this was worn out...then to try and rush it to get done... kick rocks pal
We all know you do solid work....you don't hire professionals then tell them how to do the job...thats called bad management and from the looks of this machine this is an ongoing problem with whoever runs this outfit
The right customer is right. The wrong customer costs you money and time.
This is the kind of customer you tell to " bring cash, no checks accepted"
We all know that all to well
An pay a huge deposit up front, or a mechanic's lien on the machine.
@@erik_dk842 👍
And power wash and degrease the damn thing before bringing it.
Have to agree with this statement! Shirt cuts are never good
When I operated equipment,every morning started with greasing all pivot points,bucket pins,dozer blade pins etc! I had to pump out all of the old grease,then wipe off all the excess! Everything we had looked and worked like it was brand new!
Used to work on cars and the half a## repairs that some customers insisted on was really discouraging. Also some of those marginal repairs can come back to haunt you when they claim it was your fault that it didn't hold up.
Great to see more gouging & welding!
"You can lead a horse to water"..... For some reason, some folks prefer to fix things halfway, but do it twice as often- 🤣😂
Great video anyway. Thanks!
There's a saying here in Argentina. It translates to something like "cheap stuff is expensive"... I'm sure that was much more expensive and complicated than doing it the right way to begin with
My equipment has more grease around the pins then that JD, a lot less dirt though. Mine get grease every morning without fail.
I think that one hit about as good as you could get (with that customer) between ... "Patch it up" and "doing it the right way" .. it should last for quite a while
I'm in Northern Ontario Canada, always look forward to your videos , being CWB certified for structural welding I find your approach to every job informative and fun to watch, keep up the good work, and invest in a good power washer, lol.
That's one thing that always piss me off never got time to do it right but always got time to do it over crazy
Oh man! I hate doing half a job or a half-assed job, whatever you want to call it. I try and avoid "temporary" fixes as much as I can, sometimes to the detriment of getting it done, but at least I don't have to do it again. By the sounds of that customer, you might be lucky enough to avoid having to fix that machine again after he breaks it prematurely because of his bad decisions. 👍
Thank you Isaac. The grease fire will save on welding gas😂😂😂.
that's a very common problem with john deere's. operator's and maintenance people need to check those pins often.
One thing that I learned over the years as both a contractor and customer is that you can tell a lot about a contractor by the condition of the equipment that they use. I had subcontractors that came in with beat up equipment on my jobsites and they did shit work, cut corners and ended up being back-charged by my company for shoddy work. There are times when you need to cut corners to get something done, but you don't do that with heavy equipment.
As someone who does that same work as Mr torch-Norris -this. I like to explain like pinching a broken brake line off to get home, you don’t leave it that way, unfortunately some do leave it.
Wow!!! Some of the best arc gouging shots EVER! Bravo to a job well done setting up the perfect camera angle and sharing your process. Skid steers are difficult in the sense that they're used for so many different things that customers always need them back as "fast as you can." Contracts and deadline pressures put tremendous pressure on folks.
i didn't understand how an arc gouger works until i saw this. it blows compressed air to take out the molten metal
Let’s hear the grease theory issac!
"There's never time to do it right but always time to do it again." I worked with industrial and utility electrical distribution equipment. I marveled at how customers would rather let equipment blow up and cost many times more than what an earlier repair would have cost.
It would drive me nuts all the grease and dirt. I would likely pressure wash the work area while waiting for the customer to call back regarding the bolt. I am a little disturbed about cleanliness it that way. Perhaps even weird.
Customers always find that there are bigger sharks in the sea. When I get work done i listen to the man doing the work. Not a big fan of DIY SURGERY. HA HA HA.
yeah. not too happy about it but oh well.
26:10 you can write on the invoice that the customer declined the proper repair against your professional recommendations and that failure can happen sooner then expected because of this and have them sign acknowledging that.
This LOOKS to me like the type of customer who will bring more, equally TRASHED hardware and still expect miracles.
Ir ALSO looks to me like the best answer for this particular customer is to tell them to 'take it somewhere else - I don't DO half assed repairs'
MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼
I thought I was about due for bushings but now I think I can get another 4000 hours out of em. 😂😂
yes it’s hard sometimes when you can only do half a job frustrating thanks for sharing 🦘👍
I think the hardest part of being a tradesman and maintaining a good reputation is when to allow the customer to nitpick your work or decide to "help" you do part of it "their" way.
Sad that he has to CYA on a repair the cust requested and then helped on...but the video footage is DEFINITELY a great idea and tool in case of the dreaded lawsuit...
I understand both sides of the coin. Sometimes the best repair is not in the budget, time budget, or dollar budget. He seamed like he needed it back yesterday. But we know it will wear out a whole lot faster. I would like to hear your thoughts on grease. My thoughts are keep your machine greased, but keep the machine clean so the dirt does not get pulled into the pivoting areas by the smeared grease.
Sometimes it’s best to just tell the customer what you feel it needs, and not ask. They either do it on your recommendations or they decide not to. Both are fine, and usually there’s no bad blood, vs doing a half ass job on the customers request, cause once you do it, it becomes your baby and your fault no matter what they tell you. I’m like you, when I fix a machine I fix it right, period. If these guys can’t afford to fix their equipment, they they should take better care of them. You want to play with big boy toys you gotta pay big boy money when you break it lol
Good way to get hosed on repairs (or get sued) is to do a repair that the cust didn't ask for...
The cleaning part was needed to do a proper repair on the damage that was done...however it should be a chargeable operation AT welder prices if he had to do it when the cust delivered the machine...it should have been clean before it was dropped off
You nailed it. Lots of posers out there that think being a contractor is driving an $80k truck and 3 hour lunches while running absolute beat up garbage for equipment. Some are right here on RUclips. I have no issue at all sending them away when they cop that cheap-ass attitude when it comes to repairing their junk. They usually don't have a company very long.
The most common problem with the Deere skid steer. Ours has 57 hrs and the bottom pins could can’t stay tight. The pin boss for the tilt cylinder is crooked so it’s getting a whole new boom assembly.
Good looking repair for what it is. Needs to be a button for the “customers always right …….” Nope ur in it that deep fix it right and go back to it
Like your select of back ground music ,what is it? Enjoy watching your skill at the the vary types of repair’s
I forget. and thank you. glad you enjoy them
My policy is, I will do the work, I will go the extra mile for you, but the MOMENT you touch the job, my responsibilities are completed, and it's now yours.
I love how you get those customers who want as little downtime as possible so will cut corners yet for the number of times you have to send the machine in for repairs amounts to more downtime AND more overall cost then it would have just doing it right the first time. Those types of people need to have their head smacked a few times to see if they even have anything there. Personally when doing something i much prefer to do it right the first time even if it takes longer then having to redo things.
I’ve done this repair on quite a few deers now, I gave up on trying to knock out the pins along time. I’ll just cut the pin bosses in half then you can get the pin out. I also use to use a piece of angle iron to align the pin bosses but eventually got to the point where I made nuts with washers welded to them bolted the pin and boss together put them in the coupler and put a ratchet strap on it the hold them tight allowing owing me to use the coupler to align it.
There's never enough time to do it once, but there's always enough time to do it twice.
Kicking the hell out this... "this guy always repairing equipment somebody turned the screws in on. "Is sinyor that good?"
“Don’t ask me why its like that. I don’t grease it!” [ former employee]
Isaac I have an old saying that I live by never have time to do it right but you always got time to do it over I’ve lived by that for long long time great job you can’t please everybody and good for you you only work five days a week probably 12 hours a day you’re not 20 anymore you’re probably not even 40 anymore I don’t blame ya five days a week is enough take care yourself keep up the great work love the videos your Yankee friend from back here in New England junkman do
i hit Five Zero already.😒😒😁😁😉
Just subscribed, you have your work cut out for you, rough machine 🪵🚜👍🏼🇺🇸
Thanks for the sub!
Great work my friend. Even though the saying is "Customer is always right" it's not true. But good for you doing the best your are permitted to do. Thanks for sharing your work and thoughts.
When you bill the customer, do you get them to sign something that states that the work was not completed the way you felt it should have been?
@Carl Halt keep your guns in your holster. All he's saying is that you don't warranty half assed work that you did at the customer's request.
@Carl Halt ? Why would you be upset at that? The proper repair was suggested, and they say no. Its not Isaac's fault if the repair fails because they did not want it done right.
@Carl Halt Wouldn’t think of working for someone with that kind of attitude.