The solution with the 980D battery seems to be a somewhat hit n miss for some people. For me it has worked great but a few people have reached out to me and told me that it didn't work for them, Because of this I can't recommend that solution anymore, best wishes arber.
Yes, since NPF Batteries only output 7.4 V and the BMPCC requires 12 V you could damage your camera on the long term by providing it not enough voltage.
@@christianschmeer Hi there, by dummy battery do you mean one that goes into the canon battery slot with a cable hanging out to plug into the NPF? Does anyone know an NPF battery that has 12V output? many thanks!
@@maxkitaev3524 Yes. I work on feature movies and the camera department always turn their alexa into a christmas tree as well. I prefered to go to a S1 :)
Thanks for this incredible video. Third option: NP-F980D battery on your monitor and then share the power of that to the camera it self through the DC out of the battery. In this option: How is possible a 7.2V battery output can feed a 12V camera input? Shouldn't it be a 12V battery the right battery for this type of solution? Many thanks
I reused my npf plate that I used for my BM pocket HD.... That used to give me 4.5hrs on the pocket HD using a npf 970. I only get an hour and a bit with my pocket 4k using a dummy battery.... I think I need a newer modern npf plate😋
My favorite solution: Canon camera batteries. I carry about 8 in my camera vest. Why do I do that? 1. 3rd party batteries are plentiful, cheap, and good. 2. Because it's the lightest set up I can get for hand held shooting.
Great option for planned shoots, not great for documentary as you can easily miss a shot or have the camera die half way through an important moment and lose the entire clip!
hey ! I wanted to use same NPF batteries as you with DC out but read that's it's actually STRONGLY not recommanded as it only outputs 8.4V and the camera asks for 12V. It can really damage the camera ! I tried it and had sudden shutdowns while recording same for the Tilta plate the 12V output is for the camera and 8V is for monitor and not the other way around !
www.ebay.com/itm/2Pack-7-4V-Li-ion-Battery-For-Sony-NP-F970-NP-F975-NP-F960-NP-F950-Camcorder-NEW/292919885061?pageci=f5f13681-fe79-4766-a7eb-5e4b12f6f80d I love the batteries so much. I connect a dummy battery to the dc out and insert it in my camera. It also has a 5V usb out which I use to power my nucleus nano at thesame time
Question. I thought this camera (pocket 6k) could do 120 frames per second with a crop , but I can’t find 120p anywhere in the camera! Do you know if it’s true you can shoot at 120 and if so , where is it?
I love the solution using the Sony battery as it's a nice compact solution when you're running and gunning, but how long does it last when you're powering the monitor and Pocket4k/6k?
@@ArberBaqaj Thanks. Looking into this more it does seem like the BMPCC4k requires at least 12V to run it safely. In theory I guess you could use the Tilta plate in conjunction with the 980D though...although I'm not sure if the battery could then be used to power a monitor using it's DC output or not?
Hi! I just purchased a BMPCC 6K Pro and mounted it onto a Ronin RS2 gimbal. Do you have a recommendation on the best (longest lasting) power source that can be either mounted on the gimbal grip, or worn on a belt? TIA!!! Tom
Great review! I am considering the BMPCC4K/6K, and one of the obvious concerns is how to power it. As I already have the Tilta Nucleus Nano, their cage with control side grip interests me. How bulky would it be to add their V-mount "cage" below the camera cage? Seems like it would be a bit bulky, but a good way to power the camera, a monitor and add rails/matte box when needed.
5 great solutions Aber 🙌👌 Want one , but fully equiped with the tilta battery+ cage + nucleus gearing system and bars , i'm affraid its gonna be as expensive as a Panasonic sh1 ? Right or is it still way under that ?
Hey Arber mate, I’ve recently purchased the 98wh Nano 2. But haven’t had a chance to test out it’s performance fully yet. How many hours are you getting out of it? (With the BMPCC4K) I have a wedding coming up soon, and I’m wondering if I would be okay for a full day of shooting (if I’m intermittentently powering off the camera between shots).
Hi Arber, Brilliant solutions you mentioned. I use a Fujifilm rig, would the 2nd option of using a Sony NPF-980 battery work to power my camera or is it limited to the Pocket camera? - Cheers for any help
I've been looking at this also and it looks like they have a version for sony cameras as well. Cannon also. But you cant use it with any camera. You have to make sure you pick the right one
I heard that the Sony NP-F battery will cut out voltage on the USB out port after a short time. So your follow focus might lose power. Read it in an Amzn review somewhere. Don't own Nucleus, so cannot confirm. Maybe you can check? Thanks!
Hi there, I haven’t had that experience, I know that there are quits a lot of different brands of npf batteries so there is probably some variation, thanx for your comment!
Focus would be on how many hours of shoot you get from any of the power alternatives, from experience its starting to get frustrating these batteries are Really unreliable after a short time
PSA: Don't put a handle on the top of the camera without a cage. The mount on the top of the camera isn't meant for holding the weight of the camera. It will break, and when it does, it's not covered under warranty.
I suggest you to make video after u check the battery life. because thats the reason we are here to watch your video. dont be hurry in uploading videos for views. you r wasting our time and data
The power handle doesn't seem like a viable long term solution because once it dies you have to de-rig like 1/3 of the entire camera rig and get a second one or switch to another power solution.
To be fair I tested it on a two day shoot and it worked flawlessly so I’m very comfortable in recommending it, the only thing is that I’m not sure about how many hours it lasted because I was shooting on and of, thanx for the comment and understand where you you came from, ✌️
How can you not mention that your camera will end up looking like a cheap ToysRus camera when you put that battery handle on? Seriously? Makes the whole review so biased in my opinion. That thing is the ugliest piece of equipment I have seen in years.
I still use my Core SWX Powerbase and I'm pretty happy with it. Runs about 3hrs powering up BMPCC4K and eternal monitor. But I really like the Tilta setup you show in your video. Looks very clean and there's no need to attach a battery pack under the camera.
Arber I would like to buy the NP-F980D battery but where can I find a good dummy battery to use with the bmpcc4k? I checked BandH but I'm not sure on which one to buy?
The solution with the 980D battery seems to be a somewhat hit n miss for some people. For me it has worked great but a few people have reached out to me and told me that it didn't work for them, Because of this I can't recommend that solution anymore, best wishes arber.
I think it's because of the 7.4v output from the battery. Doesn't the BMPCC4k require 12V minimum if you're running it continuously?
Yes, since NPF Batteries only output 7.4 V and the BMPCC requires 12 V you could damage your camera on the long term by providing it not enough voltage.
7v is still good enough to power Nucleus Nano’s motor
DO NOT feed 7-8v to the 2-pin power input. That takes 10-20v! If you want to use the power directly from the NP-F you need a dummy battery.
@@christianschmeer Hi there, by dummy battery do you mean one that goes into the canon battery slot with a cable hanging out to plug into the NPF?
Does anyone know an NPF battery that has 12V output?
many thanks!
This camera is starting to look like a christmas tree. Thanks for the video.
Ted Souart just like Alexa and Red. You can go with Canon 550d
@@maxkitaev3524 Yes. I work on feature movies and the camera department always turn their alexa into a christmas tree as well. I prefered to go to a S1 :)
A fundamental error is that the camera actually requires 12V, and the 7.4v is for the monitor.
I came here to comment the same thing...
BMPCC voltage inputs are 10.8 to 20v in the side input and 6.2-10V for a dummy battery so either one could be used depending on your application.
Thanks for this incredible video.
Third option: NP-F980D battery on your monitor and then share the power of that to the camera it self through the DC out of the battery.
In this option: How is possible a 7.2V battery output can feed a 12V camera input?
Shouldn't it be a 12V battery the right battery for this type of solution?
Many thanks
great review! i went with the tilta side handle solution
thats a grate solution!
Great options which I've never seen before. Thank you for sharing Arber!
Great coverage! The Core SWX is amazing as well, just pick up a 4 and it covers a 12 hour day of filming.
Danny Hidalgo which one powerbase edge or another one?
Mcarthur Beard Photography the power base edge
Danny Hidalgo I hear people say it only last for 3 hours
Mcarthur Beard Photography that’s correct, that’s why I stated you need 4 of them for 12 hr shoot.
Danny Hidalgo oh ok
Great video, thanks for putting all that together!
Very helpful. Thank you!!!
I reused my npf plate that I used for my BM pocket HD.... That used to give me 4.5hrs on the pocket HD using a npf 970. I only get an hour and a bit with my pocket 4k using a dummy battery.... I think I need a newer modern npf plate😋
Very usefull info thanks Arber👍
what is the best rig for use of
SETUP 1:
Ronin and monitor (ronin powers camera) + follow focus
Setup 2:
Hand held with monitor + follow focus
Great tips Arber! 🙏🏾
Thanx Eugene! ✌️👍
My favorite solution: Canon camera batteries. I carry about 8 in my camera vest.
Why do I do that?
1. 3rd party batteries are plentiful, cheap, and good.
2. Because it's the lightest set up I can get for hand held shooting.
Great option for planned shoots, not great for documentary as you can easily miss a shot or have the camera die half way through an important moment and lose the entire clip!
Great solutions!
Thanx a bunch!
hey ! I wanted to use same NPF batteries as you with DC out but read that's it's actually STRONGLY not recommanded as it only outputs 8.4V and the camera asks for 12V.
It can really damage the camera ! I tried it and had sudden shutdowns while recording
same for the Tilta plate the 12V output is for the camera and 8V is for monitor and not the other way around !
good stuff!
thanx man!
Just found your channel. Great videos! Subscribed too:-)
Are there specific cages that the soonwell will fit?
NP-F for me
Can mount them anywhere
ANYWHERE!!! 😭
Link for the NPF 980 D battery suggested in this video please
www.ebay.com/itm/2Pack-7-4V-Li-ion-Battery-For-Sony-NP-F970-NP-F975-NP-F960-NP-F950-Camcorder-NEW/292919885061?pageci=f5f13681-fe79-4766-a7eb-5e4b12f6f80d I love the batteries so much. I connect a dummy battery to the dc out and insert it in my camera. It also has a 5V usb out which I use to power my nucleus nano at thesame time
Question. I thought this camera (pocket 6k) could do 120 frames per second with a crop , but I can’t find 120p anywhere in the camera! Do you know if it’s true you can shoot at 120 and if so , where is it?
Hi there! It can do that, you only need to put in the 2.7k mode, then you can =)
Love it. How long does the battery life last for the NP-F970 when using both the 4K and the Screen?
around two hours, but it depends if you have the screen on full brightness, that screen its battery =)
I love the solution using the Sony battery as it's a nice compact solution when you're running and gunning, but how long does it last when you're powering the monitor and Pocket4k/6k?
I've heard that you shouldn't use the same source for both, you need 2 differents sources or it can dammage your camera
Wht chord do u use to connect the batteries to the camera? Need to know wht thr called
Me too. A Tilta?
Very interesting video. Which cable do you use to connect the 980 battery to the camera? I have tried a Tilta and it doesn´t work. Thank you.
Does BMPC C takes 7v or 12v battery thx
I am using an Indi Pro Portapak. It is a 98wh battery that only costs $100.
Please do a comparison video about those batteries, how much each battery will keep alive the balackmagic 4k and 6k.
I will try to do that =)
Hey Arber. I'm getting the tilta NP-F plate and DC to weipu cable. What run time can I expect with the powerextra battery? Thanks.
around 2-3 hours
I love the look of the 980D solution but it looks like it's not available in North America??
it is a good solution, but all 980D batteries dont seem to work equaly good. Some seem to die when being on to much load.
@@ArberBaqaj Thanks. Looking into this more it does seem like the BMPCC4k requires at least 12V to run it safely. In theory I guess you could use the Tilta plate in conjunction with the 980D though...although I'm not sure if the battery could then be used to power a monitor using it's DC output or not?
Is it necessary to use a dummy battery with a v-mount battery?
Hi! I just purchased a BMPCC 6K Pro and mounted it onto a Ronin RS2 gimbal. Do you have a recommendation on the best (longest lasting) power source that can be either mounted on the gimbal grip, or worn on a belt? TIA!!!
Tom
Great review! I am considering the BMPCC4K/6K, and one of the obvious concerns is how to power it. As I already have the Tilta Nucleus Nano, their cage with control side grip interests me. How bulky would it be to add their V-mount "cage" below the camera cage? Seems like it would be a bit bulky, but a good way to power the camera, a monitor and add rails/matte box when needed.
How long does the NP-F980D give you in raw? and with the monitor simultaneously? Thank you!
...Battery life is owesome?... what does that mean?
Can you used the tilta focus handle with the smallrig cage?
Hey Arber. Does the Tilta Side Handle solution work with the SmallRig Cage?
5 great solutions Aber 🙌👌
Want one , but fully equiped with the tilta battery+ cage + nucleus gearing system and bars , i'm affraid its gonna be as expensive as a Panasonic sh1 ?
Right or is it still way under that ?
The S1H is a killer camera, I’m gonna test it in a week or so, I’m curious to se how the image quality is when comparing these two cameras,
@@ArberBaqaj looking forward to it budy 🤩🙌.
Your camera reviews are the best 💪
Hey Arber mate, I’ve recently purchased the 98wh Nano 2. But haven’t had a chance to test out it’s performance fully yet. How many hours are you getting out of it? (With the BMPCC4K) I have a wedding coming up soon, and I’m wondering if I would be okay for a full day of shooting (if I’m intermittentently powering off the camera between shots).
Hi Arber, Brilliant solutions you mentioned. I use a Fujifilm rig, would the 2nd option of using a Sony NPF-980 battery work to power my camera or is it limited to the Pocket camera?
- Cheers for any help
I've been looking at this also and it looks like they have a version for sony cameras as well.
Cannon also. But you cant use it with any camera. You have to make sure you pick the right one
I heard that the Sony NP-F battery will cut out voltage on the USB out port after a short time. So your follow focus might lose power. Read it in an Amzn review somewhere. Don't own Nucleus, so cannot confirm. Maybe you can check? Thanks!
Hi there, I haven’t had that experience, I know that there are quits a lot of different brands of npf batteries so there is probably some variation, thanx for your comment!
Thanks for your answer.
@@spetsovich its my pleasure!
Does this work with Tilta cage and Nucleus-Nano?
Can it be done with a lipo battery?
Shqipe do you know how long soonwell will last before it dies on me I need to know how many hours thank you
Hi Ardian, at least two three hours =)
You can not power pocket 4K with 7.4V on tilta npf plate...
Well it does have a 12v out that converts the current in some way
ph70 price: $299. Charger inclued.
Hi there! Thanx for the update, is this a new deal?
What size power cable are you using with the tilta handle?
For the side handle.
Focus would be on how many hours of shoot you get from any of the power alternatives, from experience its starting to get frustrating these batteries are Really unreliable after a short time
Why have those ugly batteries if there’s a native blackmagic battery grip?
The grip has trash battery life.
FBI good to know
PSA: Don't put a handle on the top of the camera without a cage. The mount on the top of the camera isn't meant for holding the weight of the camera. It will break, and when it does, it's not covered under warranty.
I suggest you to make video after u check the battery life. because thats the reason we are here to watch your video. dont be hurry in uploading videos for views. you r wasting our time and data
The power handle doesn't seem like a viable long term solution because once it dies you have to de-rig like 1/3 of the entire camera rig and get a second one or switch to another power solution.
Isaac Bedford what the other option? This seems to be an extra option for the internal battery.
Max Kitaev all the other options are better than the overpriced power soonwell power handle
If you are going to recommend something do the research, you are recommending a battery wich you dont know how long it last, like wtf
To be fair I tested it on a two day shoot and it worked flawlessly so I’m very comfortable in recommending it, the only thing is that I’m not sure about how many hours it lasted because I was shooting on and of, thanx for the comment and understand where you you came from, ✌️
How can you not mention that your camera will end up looking like a cheap ToysRus camera when you put that battery handle on? Seriously? Makes the whole review so biased in my opinion. That thing is the ugliest piece of equipment I have seen in years.
Do you use any of these battery solutions?
great video, lots of options!
Link for the NPF 980 D battery suggested in this video please
I still use my Core SWX Powerbase and I'm pretty happy with it. Runs about 3hrs powering up BMPCC4K and eternal monitor. But I really like the Tilta setup you show in your video. Looks very clean and there's no need to attach a battery pack under the camera.
Arber I would like to buy the NP-F980D battery but where can I find a good dummy battery to use with the bmpcc4k? I checked BandH but I'm not sure on which one to buy?
@@pixelcityart3554 and there are even more =)
Way too bulky ...terrible design
It is somewhat big but with that battery capacity its hard to make em small.
For a Cinema camera setup this is quite portable.