Am I Atypically Autistic? | Understanding Atypical Autism
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Do You Have Atypical Autism? Uncover Signs & Traits [Hosted by Nat Hawley]
Explore Atypical Autism with Nat Hawley
Do you struggle with social interactions and communication? Could it be atypical autism? This webinar aims to shed light on this misunderstood form of autism.
Note: This is not a diagnostic tool. Consult a healthcare professional for a formal diagnosis.
Chapters
00:00 - Intro: Autism & Atypicality
01:19 - Who We Are & What We Do
02:44 - Identifying Atypical Autism
03:17 - Defining 'Atypical'
04:20 - Quick Overview
05:38 - History of Atypical Autism
10:40 - Autism Spectrum Explained
12:06 - Subgroups in PDD-NOS
15:05 - Activity Preferences
16:32 - Art & Autism: American Gothic
18:53 - Collecting Traits
21:03 - Dinosaur Extinction & Autism
23:58 - Emotion Demo: Jealousy
26:20 - Visual Perception Test
28:08 - Skill Development Milestones
32:16 - Pronunciation & Autism
35:22 - Social Norms & Autism
36:46 - Dexter: Good or Bad?
39:01 - Life Transitions & Autism
40:20 - Friend Count
41:03 - Repetitive Behaviors
42:14 - Sensory Sensitivities
43:39 - Atypical Autism Traits
44:45 - Summary
45:54 - Workplace Needs for Autism
46:43 - Q&A and Next Steps
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Sounds like me. I have trouble socializing, I have stupid repetitive behaviors, I love being alone, I have weird deep hobbies, I am socially awkward, I have sensory issues, I feel strange in my body.... BUT I understand complex linguistic figures, can read symbols, and have above-average empathy (i see and feel... i have a problem to respond correctly) and am open to people if I can get past the awkward phase quickly. In contrast, I have serious problems with math, but not logic.
It is not uncommon for people with neurodivergent traits to have a mix of strengths and challenges. Having difficulties with socializing, repetitive behaviors, and feeling awkward in social situations are common experiences among those on the autism spectrum. Additionally, having a deep interest in specific hobbies and sensory sensitivities are also common. On the other hand, having strong language skills, empathy, and an understanding of complex concepts are also traits that can be present in individuals with autism. It is important to remember that every individual is unique and experiences neurodivergence differently. If you feel that your difficulties are affecting your daily life, it may be helpful to reach out to a healthcare professional for an evaluation and support.
@Amanda 4321🌹 Best of luck with your journey Amanda
@@ExceptionalIndividuals Please pronounce Aspergers correctly.
@@Medietos Hi Claudia please remember that we all have ways of pronouncing words in our own way. The correct pronunciation of Aspergers is "AH-sper-gers" with the stress on the first syllable. I hope this helps, and please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.
You are great the way you are! Wouldn´t waste time with therapy, they have no clue, imho!
So they did mentioned Atypical autism in the DSM3 in 1980 where they added autism for the first time in the DSM: PDD = Classic Autism, but when they added a second (milder) autism diagnose in the DSM3-R in 1987 they called it: PDD-NOS (instead of Atypical)
Yes, you are correct. In the DSM-3, released in 1980, the term "Pervasive Developmental Disorders" (PDD) was used, and it encompassed what might be referred to as Classic Autism. The term "Atypical Autism" was not explicitly used in the DSM-3.
In the revised version, DSM-3-R, in 1987, the category of PDD-NOS (Pervasive Developmental Disorder-Not Otherwise Specified) was introduced. This was a more encompassing category for individuals who showed some, but not all, of the characteristics of Classic Autism. The terminology and understanding of autism have evolved over time, reflecting the ongoing development of knowledge in the field of psychology and psychiatry.
They may refer you for another diagnostic assessment. For example if you have an asd assessment, they will acknowledge the request for the adhd assessment and refer you within their organisation for another appointment to diagnose that seperately. So each appointment will focus on one thing. However you wont be put back to the end of the 2/3 year queue type thing.
That's great to hear! It's good to know that if you're diagnosed with one condition, you won't have to start the assessment process all over again if you're also showing signs of another condition.
This is because autism and ADHD are both spectrum disorders, which means that there is a wide range of symptoms and severity levels. It's possible to have both conditions, and it's also possible to have one condition that overlaps with the other.
Awesome video, thank you very much for your useful information. Really appreciate the hands on approach. Felt very comforting.
You are very welcome and thank you for the support and for watching our videos
I had a PDD-NOS diagnose in the early 90ties and was also hyperkinetic (= ADHD) they also saw Asperger but that wasn’t yet a official diagnose beside that I had attention problems at school. Only when I like something I am laser focused. I am happy beeing Atypical (PDD-NoS) beside that I don’t like the name Asperger.
It's wonderful to hear about your personal experience with a PDD-NOS diagnosis and ADHD. Your ability to be laser-focused on things you enjoy is a unique strength. Your perspective on the names and labels, and your comfort with being Atypical, adds an important voice to the conversation about neurodiversity. Thanks for sharing!
Never heard of so it will be interesting to listen 😊
Would you found it interesting :)
Great discussion, learnt a lot.Thanks for sharing.
Thank you ^_^
It’s reassuring to hear you mention adhd and TS. :)
It's definitely important that people know co-occurring conditions are very common in those who are neurodivergent
With being over sensitive or under sensitive, I am oversensitive to emotions. I have being in a crowded room because of it. I can hear other people's emotions like thought in my mind. It gets extremely overwhelming. And if I am hosting an event or am expected to perform for a group (like be present and respond fast in Convo ECT) I get anxious and feel like I'm seeing the room through some sort of weird glass. But then when I'm alone I can process what happened easily.
It sounds like you have a condition known as sensory overload, which is common among individuals with high sensitivity to emotions. It can be overwhelming to constantly process the emotions of others in a crowded room. It's important to find ways to manage and reduce sensory overload, such as taking breaks, practicing relaxation techniques, and creating a sensory-friendly environment for yourself. Remember that it's okay to take care of yourself and prioritize your mental and emotional well-being.
Doesn't sound too far removed from having anxiety.
Thanks for the comment Alexander, Autism and anxiety are two separate conditions that affect people in different ways. Autism impacts communication, social interaction, and behavior, whereas anxiety is characterized by excessive and persistent worry or fear about everyday situations. Although some people with autism may also experience anxiety, not everyone with autism will have anxiety symptoms, and not everyone with anxiety will have symptoms of autism.
The amercan gothic paintjng. Looks like he's ... Being cheeky? Like he playfully knows that the fork he's holding is a pattering on his overhauls and in his face and on the window. Kinda makes me wonder what's in that attic.
Thanks for your interpretation of the American Gothic painting! The man's expression is open to interpretation, and the attic adds to the painting's intrigue for sure!
To me those doors said to be going to open if I had the diagnosis, have shut on me instead.There must be some non-understanding, rash conclusions, and prejudices, lack of insight, but I am too impacted by traumas as well as harmed and stress-exhausted in addition to A. Knowing I can't fix this alone on my own and also have lacked much energy, I have focused on seeking help and talking /writing to people. Without much success, and it all has worsened to the extreme. And the help I have right and need for have been manipulated and deceived away, despite being approved!
I am getting killed slowly, and harming myself from the tremendously strong and horrendously long pressure, uncertainty, withheld proper assistemce ,Dr , Dentist, Psychotherapy. If some one knowledgeable has good ideas, I'd be grateful.
Hi Claudia, I'm sorry you're going through such a difficult time. Have you tried reaching out to organisations that specialize in supporting individuals with autism? It's important to have a team of professionals who understand your unique needs and can offer appropriate support. Remember to prioritise self-care and seek out healthy coping mechanisms. You're not alone, and help is available.
I’m so sorry to hear that… I can’t offer you a solution, I’d recommend keep seeking for professional help. An actual good psychologist can make a great difference. Please try not to be too harsh on yourself. I know it hurts to be under pressure, I really do. I think the best thing for now would be find a good professional to help and give yourself some real good rest from time to time. It might not sound like much, but it can help. I don’t know, man. I hope someday you get the help you need. I myself don’t know much, but the people from this channel might, so listen to them. Good luck!
Regarding expressions, people can be feeling many emotions at the same time and these may come through on the faces too, so people can be picking up on those micro expressions, so it's difficult to rest on one particular expression of emotion.
That's a great point. People with autism often have difficulty interpreting facial expressions, and this can be made even more challenging by the fact that people can be feeling multiple emotions at the same time.
Micro expressions are very brief facial expressions that are often involuntary. They can be difficult to see, even for people who are not on the autism spectrum. But for people with autism, micro expressions can be even more difficult to interpret.
This is because people with autism often have difficulty recognizing the subtle changes in facial expressions that indicate different emotions. They may also have difficulty understanding the context of facial expressions. For example, they may not understand that a smile can be used to express different emotions, such as happiness, sadness, or even fear.
As a result, people with autism may have difficulty understanding what other people are feeling. This can make it difficult for them to communicate effectively and to build relationships.
If you are on the autism spectrum, it is important to be aware of the challenges that you may face when interpreting facial expressions. You may want to try to learn more about micro expressions and how to interpret them. You may also want to talk to a therapist or counselor who can help you develop strategies for communicating effectively with others.
@ExceptionalIndividuals thank you so much. This was such a wonderful video that I had to take a little break from watching it near the beginning or I could have been commenting left right and centre. Thank you so much for delivering it to us x
33:49 Jõululaululaulja means christmas song singer
;) Always great to learn new words from different languages.
I have known with certainty I am autistic since the age of 16.
Just got my diagnosis at the age of 33.
Atypical with Giftedness, milder and less criteria than what was Asperger's.
Thanks for the message Blackthorn, glad you have finally got the diagnosis you needed
Autism was first in the DSM3 in 1980 it was called: PDD = Classic Autism. The also mentioned Atypical Autism and in 1987 in the DSM3-R they added a 2th (milder) form of autism: PDD-NOS. In 1994 they added a 3th also milder form of autism:Asperger. In the Netherlands PDD-NOS was the most common autism diagnose: 37 in 10.000 people have PDD-NOS and only 2 Asperger. ADHD overlap is mostly common in PDD-NOS (to get a Asperger diagnose you could not have any attention/learning problems)
You've outlined the historical development of autism classifications in the DSM, from Classic Autism to PDD-NOS and Asperger's Syndrome. The prevalence of these diagnoses in the Netherlands, along with the ADHD overlap in PDD-NOS, highlights the complexity and variation in autism spectrum disorders. These classifications continue to evolve, reflecting ongoing efforts to understand and support individuals on the autism spectrum.
What is the tool being used to form the answer clouds?
Mentimeter.com :)
PDD-NOS was included in the DSM 3 R in 1987.
Thank you for sharing that information! The DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) is an important reference for mental health professionals and is updated periodically to reflect current understanding and research in the field. The inclusion of PDD-NOS (Pervasive Developmental Disorder - Not Otherwise Specified) in the DSM-III-R in 1987 was an important step in recognizing and diagnosing this condition, which is now recognized as part of the autism spectrum.
In the Netherlands PDD-NOS was the most common form of autism: of 10.000 people 37 people had a PDD-NOS diagnose and only 2 Asperger. From all forms of autism ADHD is mostly common in PDD-NOS so when a person had the same autism as Asperger but also difficulties with attention and hyperactivity they automatically got the diagnosis PDD-NOS. I got mine in 1991: they also saw Asperger but the end result was PDD-NOS because i was also hyperkinetic and had difficulty on school etc with attention = ADHD.
@@fransie079
I was reading at 3, but i still dont really know how to make or keep friends and i’m 45. I am not very coordinated but i can ride a bike.
It's not uncommon for individuals to excel in certain areas while facing challenges in others. Your ability to read at a young age is impressive, but struggling with social skills and coordination is also valid. Remember, it's never too late to learn and improve. Seeking support and guidance in these areas can lead to meaningful connections and increased confidence. Keep exploring and don't hesitate to reach out for help if needed.
At age 53, I was officially diagnosed ASD on Feb. 8, 2023, but the neuropsychologist said I had "Mild" and "Atypical" autism symptoms.
Thank you for sharing your recent diagnosis of ASD with us. It takes a lot of courage to open up about personal experiences, and I commend you for that.
It sounds like your diagnosis was a complex one, with both "Mild" and "Atypical" symptoms noted by the neuropsychologist. I hope that this diagnosis brings you a greater understanding of yourself and your unique experiences.
Remember that a diagnosis does not define you, and it's important to focus on your strengths and the things that bring you joy in life. I wish you all the best on your journey forward.
I have atypical autism and have known that ever since I came across it.
Where do I get support for my autism as I have a learning disability learning disability partially sighted
Seeking support for autism, especially with additional challenges like a learning disability and partial sightedness, can be crucial. For resources and information that might help, Exceptional Individuals offers various events and support for individuals with neurodiverse conditions. They may provide guidance or connect you with suitable resources. You can find more information at www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/exceptional-individuals-12111155769. It's important to find the right support that understands and caters to your unique needs.
❤️ Great video
Thanks Chicken Chan :P
Hate to be that guy but IIRC, people that fall under the neurodiverse category are called neurodivergent and not neurodiverse. Please lmk if I'm wrong
You're absolutely correct, and I appreciate your keen eye for detail. The term "neurodivergent" is indeed used to refer to individuals whose neurological development and functioning are atypical. On the other hand, "neurodiverse" describes a collective or group that includes both neurotypical and neurodivergent individuals.
did mvsk self-diagnose or was it a formal diagnosis?
Elon Musk disclosed his Asperger's diagnosis on live TV in May 2021. This sparked a debate about self-representation in the autism community. While Asperger's Syndrome was integrated into Autism Spectrum Disorder in the DSM-V in 2013, Musk's use of the term raised questions about his understanding and the broader implications for autism representation. His disclosure is seen variously as an explanation of his social behaviour and a topic for broader discussion on autism identity
I never thought of ‘collecting’ hobbies lmao i thought that was adhd. I definitely ‘collect’ random knowledge often of questionable usefulness.
It's interesting how our hobbies and interests can reflect different aspects of our personalities and cognitive styles. Collecting random knowledge can indeed be a fascinating pursuit, regardless of whether it's related to autism or not. Embracing our curiosity and diverse interests can lead to a rich and fulfilling life.
Can you have a diagnosis of only auditory processing disorder, but also have autism. You know what I mean? Are these symptoms only my auditory issue or also autism...because I also do things that are not particularly symptoms of auditory processing disorder.
To be diagnosed. You do not have to have all the characteristics that we mentioned. It's more about how severe the effect use and for how long you have felt that way. It's very difficult to say out a proper understanding which symptom relates to what condition
You can have auditory processing disorder and not be autistic. I know it impacts processing what one hears, but it’s still different from autism as a whole.
For example, hearing the words right can be difficult, but reading body language tends to be unaffected [in fact at times that can help overcome not hearing properly the words coming at you]. Or by grasping key words etc.
@@melphillips1608 yeah.....I have auditory processing issues, but I am not autistic
I am a neurodivergent with dyslexia, dyspraxia, ADHD
Looking at movies Rain Man looks like Classic Autism and Forrest Gump looks like PDD-NOS.
In "Rain Man," Dustin Hoffman's character displays behaviors associated with "Classic Autism," while Tom Hanks's character in "Forrest Gump" shows traits that could be likened to PDD-NOS.
Rainman looks Idiot Savant but that may be subsumed into asd?
I have pddnos which was diagnosed in 2018
It's great that you received your diagnosis of PDD-NOS (Pervasive Developmental Disorder - Not Otherwise Specified). Getting a diagnosis can often provide a clearer understanding of your experiences and needs. Remember, it's just one aspect of who you are. If you ever need support or have questions about it, there are many resources and communities that can offer guidance and understanding. Keep embracing your journey!
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I googled something about “struggles with communicating online, ADHD’
And this came up!
I think I have unread messages from you… gah.
We should hang. It’s been too long- consider this an Official Invite to my house.
Call me whenever
Also, I don’t really have the attention span to watch more than five mins of this but I will try my BEST 💪💪
But! It’s so nice to hear your voice and I miss you.
Also… lmao. I wonder if I also have atypical Autism as well as ADHD… but who knows. They crossover
But yussss
Happy Halloween!
Thanks Danielle,
To learn more about Autism, I recommend the following resources:
Our webpage on Autism exceptionalindividuals.com/neurodiversity/what-is-autism/
Our characteristic quiz for signs of Autism
Jobs for Autistics exceptionalindividuals.com/jobs-for-people-with-autism/
Our 'What is Autism?' video series ruclips.net/video/MX3mH_L0XqM/видео.html
Join our dedicated Autism community on Facebook facebook.com/groups/AutismOpportunities
See what autism-related events we have coming up
Thank you so much for this excellent video. I've only been diagnosed very recently and am still trying to find out where I am on the spectrum. You are a mine of information! Just one little thing I'd like to mention as my autistic ears are ringing every time you say "Asperjers". It's not the correct pronunciation. The letter "g" sounds more like the g in hamburger! I hope you don't mind me mentioning this.
Hi there,
Thank you for your kind words and for watching my video. I'm glad to hear that you found it informative and helpful.
I appreciate you mentioning the pronunciation of "Aspergers". I apologise if my pronunciation was incorrect or unclear. I will make sure to keep this in mind and try to use the correct pronunciation going forward.
Please feel free to let me know if you have any other feedback or questions. I'm always happy to hear from my viewers and appreciate any feedback that can help me improve my content.
I was held back in kindergarten because I still couldnt read anything at all. Icouldnt pronounce my "R's" until aroiund 2nd grade and I was in speech impedement class. I also stuttered alot when I was a kid. Now I stutter when I am talking to more than like 3 peopleXD So lame. One time an entire summer I refused to wear shorts or go in the pool I wore black skinny jeans all summer! I also picked at my gums to the point now I have a permanent receding gumline on omne tooth. Now I pick my hair out and am thinning out my hair so bad in one spot! Wtf. Im really good at playing guitar though and drawing and memorizing things for class (I became a licensed and certified pharmacy technician and memorized all 200 top used drugs and their purpose and their brand/generic name. Such useless info now that I quit that job and am a shipping manager now. I have memorized all the box sizes now lol... I get paid more here tho.
It's amazing to see how you have overcome your challenges and found success in different areas of your life, like playing guitar and memorizing information for work. It sounds like you have developed coping mechanisms to deal with your stuttering and other behaviours, and that you have found a job that you enjoy and pays well. Keep up the good work and continue to focus on your strengths and interests. Remember to take care of yourself and seek support if needed, as we all have our struggles but it's important to find joy and satisfaction in our lives.
@@ExceptionalIndividuals Thankyou for the encouragement! I definately will seek support if needed thankyou I am in a therapy group and we meet 3 times a week on Zoom! I appreciate the responses take care!
@@ilovecheese111 I'm glad to hear that you're already taking steps to take care of yourself by attending therapy. It takes a lot of courage and strength to reach out for help, and it's great that you're making use of available resources.
Zoom therapy is a great option for those who are unable to attend in-person therapy for any reason, and it can be just as effective as traditional therapy. Just remember that support is always available to you if you need it, and don't hesitate to reach out if you need additional help.
Take care and keep up the good work!
Is it normal to say something like “huh?” when alone and feeling uneasy about something? I got that a lot in the kitchen while doing the dishes or preparing stuff and my mind kind of wanders.
Hello there!
It's not uncommon to verbalize a response like "huh?" or similar when we are feeling uneasy or distracted, even if we are alone. It's a natural reaction when our mind is wandering or preoccupied with something else. Sometimes, it can even help us refocus and bring us back to the present moment.
However, if you find yourself frequently feeling uneasy or distracted, it might be worth exploring the root cause of these feelings and finding ways to address them. Mindfulness exercises or taking breaks to clear your mind can help you stay focused and present while doing tasks like washing dishes or preparing food.
I hope this helps!
@@ExceptionalIndividuals Thanks for the tip!
Yes! With me it seems like whilst washing up or similar (driving) my mind can either wonder aimlessly or taunt me with my awkward moments and these tend to make me express my discomfort with tourettes-like outbursts of sounds or words etc. In the hope I will somehow overpower my brain but to be honest it tends to win 🙃
Okay, I collect coins, I had no idea what the old man was saying with that face... I do like being with close friends, but really close ones. I have to know people. I couldn't make the jealousy face...
What if she’s a lady with a very sideways 👁️